Thanks, Jlinfan#1!Rockets like what they hear from Dwight Howard
Yeah, feels right to every so often say thanks to site owners for providing this forum.Reading the comments on the previous post, it seems like the Rox have freed up close to enough cap space to take Dwight on board. Seems to mean that Rox no longer needs to trade JLin to free up space.Is there a possibility that in the scenario where Dwight becomes a Rocket, JLin will still get traded? Perhaps with Asik, in order to upgrade PF position?
ROx is trying to get a PF as well, will definitely need the space.
I hope Rox gets Dwight and a high salaried PF then. JLin cannot reach his full potential here.
PG is the least important position in Houston's game (moreyball) so makes no sense that they will ever value Jlin especially with his salary regardless of his production.Also keep in mind that Morey doesn't care whether Lin wins games. He only cares that Moreyball wins games. To morey, Lin is simply a contradiction.
Yeah!!! Lin can get the heck out of Houston !!!!!
I agree with Etane.If you're getting fired, you'll get another job with the other 31 teams if getting Howard/Harden/big $$ "talent" doesn't work out.If you're getting fired because you let some asian physical freak of nature who has high volatility play as a true PG, you're not getting another job.So Morey's decision making is defensible and just playing self interested percentages.So kids, the moral of the story is get rich (be an owner) and then you can make all the fun decisions/pay it forward/right the injustices.
The subtext is Howard/Harden not working out would be attributed to some weak excuse because they have "amazing athleticism" and "talent"Jeremy not working out would be Jeremy Lin somehow has fooled everyone with the implication being he "stole" the money even though his production/salary level is right in line or as some argue, exceeded his pay scale. There would be nothing said about Jeremy's athleticism.This is why the NBA is so broken to me.
It the NBA is fundamentally based on racial stereotypes. Black athletes are like this, Euro athletes can do this, Latin athletes are this .. etc. They even market themselves with rap songs and ghetto thug image. Lin doesn't fit into that, and he doesn't have the big ego, high draft pick status, or huge salary of a "superstar" which makes him expendable.Remember how well Rockets treated Thomas Robinson and gave him minutes just because he was a #5 pick.
pierrot: i think you're correct in your line of thinking that morey is going the safe route in terms of future employment. however, i think morey cares more about moreyball as a system, a branding mechanism, the first to ever successfully adapt advanced statistics over traditional scouting/coaching systems rather than worrying about his next GM gig. that's why he has stake winning with Moreyball (tm) rather than doing wutever it takes.
Honestly, I think Lin will remain a Rocket... I'm not so sure if Howard will sign with the Rockets though, hopefully he does while keeping Lin.
Lin will be gone if Rox got DH12 and try to sign Josh Smith
I'm not really sure how far the Lin trade rumors are going. Seems like with Morey everyone not named James Harden could be traded. I could see when CP3 was on the market and rumors that he and Howard wanted to play together he'd put up Asik and Lin to clear cap space and honestly most GM's would or be incompetent. But with CP3 off the market I don't think JLin trades rumors going anywhere. Also think it might be better for JLin because Howard is going to demand the ball and Harden passing it to him with 1 second left on the shot clock isn't going to cut it. Howard will demand a PG with court vision to pass it to him and that won't be Beverly. I'd like Lin to be the center piece of another team team but with lesser talent they wouldn't go far. I'd like to see this team decimate the Knicks (which they already do)and the Heat and win a championship. Wouldn't it be great to see a ring on Jeremy's finger before Carmelo or JR Smith ever does. Wouldn't that be a great mud on the face of SAS? Maybe I'm just too optimistic but maybe God does have a plan.
I would rather Lin plays with joy and happiness with his teammates rather than getting a ring but constantly get doubted or yell at, a la Chalmers.
Yes, but I'm hoping (again maybe overly optimistic) that Howard will offset Harden's ball hogging and that will put the ball in Jeremy's hands where it belongs and he could then shine on a championship team. That would be Linsanity 2.0. Howard is not going to stand for Harden dribbling out the clock and then passing it to a teamate with no time left when he doesn't have a shot. Howard isn't going to ball hog, he needs the ball passed to him at the post. Defenders covering Harden and Parson's at the wings will open up lanes for Jeremy to drive which will give Howard room to make a move.
Whether or not Harden will continue to iso even after Rox acquiring D12 depends on whose ass McHell rather kiss, Harden's or D12. Either way, i don't foresee lin getting the ball more often after D12. Harden will try to get all the assists if not all the FGA.What would be nice though is if lin is played more often with the B team after D12. Then, Lin would play with Anderson, Smith and Jones which I think is a killer combo.
Yes, agreed with Etane.Lin will not be getting the ball more. Harden definitely will try to get all the assists. Parsons too. Basically, all positions 1-3 will try to get the freebies from entry passes inside to Howard
The strategy to have Lin pass the ball to Howard makes perfect sense.But then again, so does the strategy to have Lin initiate and kick out to Harden. But that did not happen last year. Instead, Harden was iso-ing and Lin was sitting in the corner.So there is no reason to believe that McHale would have Lin pass to Howard if they acquired him. Lin will only get the ball less because now there are two superstars to appease. Lin will be the 4th option.
There is a reason why they are shopping Lin. Lin's penetration and drive and kick is not needed because Harden can do it better, in their eyes. When you play along side the superstars/all stars, you are just a role player. Even the team won because of you have a outstanding game, the credit will go to the stars. But if you screw up a couple of plays, you will the culprit. This is life, no fairness in the NBA.All I hope is Lin can play for a team that can utilize his skills to help that team win games, no matter what team it is as long as they respect him as their starting pg. Then he will be happy, and I'll be happier for him.
Parsons said. “We have me and James who are really good wings. Put him in pick-and-roll, make him roll hard and they can’t double because we’re out there. Jeremy (Lin) can push the ball and control our offense. You have Omer (Asik), who is like (Marcin) Gortat you had in Orlando, a really good center. You guys can push each other in practice every day.Rockets will give free agent Howard a full-court press Hopefully we'll see them do it this way.
i dont think they need lin for their plan, read somewhere that hakeem & clyde explained to dh how he & jh can be the best/perfect sg/c comboand if ever lin will play w/ bench expect that the ball will be w/ cp25 or pb like the last 2 games of the regular seasonhope the trade to pistons will happen, at least there he will be "a real pg"
I would be completely surprised if Jeremy isn't a Rocket next year. The amount of money Jeremy generates from Asia in terms of advertising and merchandise sales easily covers his salary. The Rockets are essentially getting Jeremy for free. It is no accident that Harden visited Taiwan last week. The Rockets are solidifying their fan base in Asia. While the Dallas Cowboys are America's team, the Houston Rockets are Asia's team.
Exactly and Howard must know that too. Although travel games are taxed where they are played offsetting some of the Texas tax advantage, endorsement income and that means income from China will be taxed at Texas rates (0%). Endorsement income while he lives in California will be subject to California state income tax.
That's true.Although if the Rockets really wanted to maximize revenue, they should get a player actually from mainland China. Lin is more popular with Asians in U.S. and Taiwan, not that much in China. Other stars like Kobe and LeBron are more popular than Lin in China, whereas Yao was the most popular ever since he was homegrown.
Linsanity at its peak with Mike D'Antoni and Lin playing tons of minute at PG and putting up record breaking numbers, getting on the cover of Time (Asia Edition) cover is the argument for being "Asia's" team. The Houston Rockets edition of Jeremy Lin is not Asia's team. More Lakers games are shown in China now than the Rockets, especially with no Yao Ming.Jeremy Lin still hasn't reached his full potential in the Asia (not just Taiwan or China, I'm also talking about the SE Asian countries).There's also revenue sharing in the NBA, so in order to maximize Jeremy Lin's appeal, just like any other "star" player, there needs to be a star player that is being advertised. A 13/6 player won't cut it in the long-term. That only happens in Taiwan, since he's the Pride of Taiwan.
Wherever Dwight goes, he needs to win. He can get that Asia market playing in L.A. with Kobe. Both Kobe and Nash already have a fan following in China. Basketball has grown and it's not just about the Rockets and Yao Ming anymore.
The Miami Heat make more money, and are much more marketable in China than Jeremy Lin and the Rockets. Because the Miami Heat is winning Championships.The Rockets want to be just like the MIAMI HEAT. They are copying the MIAMI HEAT path to success. They DO NOT want to be like the Rockets w/ Yao Ming.
Lin will be gone. Which will be the best thing fpr him! Can't wait! I want to see Lin be on a team where he can play "HIS" game his brand of basketball.A coach and organization that actually believes in him. I can't believe this incompetent organization the Rox! They acquire Lin and even apologize for their error...to later after 1 yr have him on the trading block. ...but of course it can be fully understandable on why the Rox would do this. They want DHoward: which I think will be a bust like LA was regardless if Kobe got injured or not... Building around Harden; big mistake and of course having a coach named Mchale that does NOT believe in Lin or has respect for his game etc...this moron of a coach chooses Bev over Lin: and has NEVER praised Lin for anything.
There are no teams in the NBA which will build a team around Jeremy to play "HIS" brand of basketball. Like it or not, Jeremy will stay in Houston this year. Jeremy will be paid $5 million next year which is a bargain for his marketing power.
True, there's no team that will build their team around Lin.But I just want Lin to be on a team that isn't built around a superstar SG where the PG is just a 3-pt spacing role player. There are still many teams in the league that have their PG actually play PG.If Lin stays with Houston, he should practice and shoot nothing but 3s and layups. That's what's going to give him playing time and allow him to win games with his defense.
You are correct. That is precisely why Lin has been working on his 3 point shot this summer. His job will be to make the long outlet pass we saw him do so many times last year, make 3 pointers, play defense, drive into the paint for layups and make ally oop passes to the new center or power forward. Offense will be run through Harden, not Lin.
Smoovies prediction is what Lin's role will be on every single team in the NBA unless his teammates get hurt. As Lin torched the NBA in scoring during Linsanity, Magic Johnson said Lin should be preparing to pass the ball around to everyone as Carmelo returned to action. For whatever reason, Lin is a capable NBA scorer yet nobody wants to see him score the ball in the NBA aside from us. It's because scoring = NBA stardom and nobody wants to see Lin be a star aside from us.Even if Lin is traded to the GSW, his role will be to backup Curry or play 6th man support even though Lin is probably actually better than Curry heads up imo since Lin is more physical and athletic.
The best team for Lin is still the Knicks but they have no capspace for him. Lin + Chandler is awesome.
Honestly I love Jeremy and it's been fun to watch the Rockets, but he is not the best fit point guard for their system and personnel. Here's an idea: Toronto! If as reported the Knicks acquire Bargnani and send Steve Novak and Marcus Camby to the Raptors, AND the Rox want a steady point guard that they are already familiar with, they could trade Lin to Toronto for Kyle Lowry and reunite Jeremy with Landry Fields and Steve Novak. AND Toronto is one of the most Chinese cities on the continent, with 12% of the population. Only San Francisco has a larger percentage among big cities in the US.
And they could pick up Jared Jeffries.
If we're talking purely about the market, the Lakers are the best bet. They already have a established fan base in both China, the Philippines, and the USA.The Lakers TV market not only gets the Greater LA area, but they also have rights to both the Las Vegas and Hawaii markets. Yes, Hawaii. Lin has a big Asian-American following in the only state in the US that is predominantly Asian. At this point though, I'd rather see Lin join a team that lets him play his game, and that's full PG duties with players that can fit his style.
I read that Toronto wants to waive Fields using the "stretch provision" (spread his salary over 5 seasons or so). So I don't think he'll be back on the team.But I totally agree, Jeremy and Landry reunited would be great basketball-wise and personal-wise. Jeremy thrives off Landry's personality and Landry thrives off Jeremy's pinpoint passing and unselfishness.
Lin + Landry + Chandler + Jeffrey + Stoudmeyer will be a contender combination
If Dwight sign for Houston, Lakers got to realize Asik and Lin are their best bet to make the playoffs and possibly challenging. Lakers could not afford to tank with their $3B time warner deal. I doubt Kobe will be available by December. Trade Gasol expiring contract for Luol Deng expiring contract. Lineup of Asik, T.Jones, Deng, Lin, Nash would blend well.
.Nash and lin backcourt sounds fun.
if Lin can play alongside Harden, no question he can play alongside Nash. And he'll take over the starting pg the year after while learning from Nash.
learning from Nash will make him an allstar
and maybe some sense of legitimacy as the torch holder of the this/next generation's stockton/nash.
Look how far Lin's come in 16 mos. Nice ...
Marc J. Spears @SpearsNBAYahooHawks free agent forward Josh Smith is expected to meet with the Rockets and the Hawks on Monday, source said.Lin and Asik for Hawks.Josh Smith to Houston
Houston didn't talk to Howard about partnering with josh smith sources said. Probably houston will still be with jlin on roster and they could pay eventually luxury tax with the money jeremy brings in. Howard could be more vocal in letting Lin play the pg ala Rondo....We'll see.... Looks like lakers want to tank badly and even if i like atlanta a lot i'd prefer jeremy be with a contender now.... Next year miami will not win
Jeremy Lin dumbly disregarded in Dwight Howard free agency pitch by small thinking Rockets
is this one of the last-effort-to-boost-Lin's-value-during -these-10-days-so-Rox-can-get-BETTER-PG article?
The only article came out in the last few days that offer some respect to Jlin.. Really feel sorry for Jlin given all the hooha and fanfare he was given when he was welcomed at the Rox 12 months ago.. You wonder what Jlin management is doing or his pr people are doing in media circle ? F&$@all.. Please trade Jlin to somewhere .. Anywhere !
This is the same guy who wrote positive articles on lin in season, and he got dis'd for it by LOHs, for being on culture mapIt's funny if you think about it - how many times have you listened to Lin answer questions with very intelligent bball assessments, honest and sincere? Then compare that to Harden, Parsons, and McHale? They should have had Lin there if they had a role for him, so I think he's free.On the other hand, news today that Rondo is staying in Boston for today:http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/boston-celtics-gm--danny-ainge-says-hes-not-trying-to-trade-rajon-rondo-070113
It's nice to see that there are fans of other teams that do want Lin.http://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/1hf2qw/there_has_been_a_lot_of_talks_of_trading_lin_if/
Any knowledgeable fan would know that Lin is a good player on a decent contract. Only people blinded by his race/undrafted status/college think he's some type of scrub. Lol Chris Broussard just said on ESPN radio that Lin is not a starter in this league. What is the credentials you need to be on ESPN radio?
Lin is a NBA starter because he is starting. No flicking player starts in NBA because he brings in money or for another reason. Lin proved this much. Although I am still waiting to see if Lin can play like an all star, Lin earned his starting job. If Lin is not a starter, many NBA PGs are not starters. But his lack of impact during playoff, for whatever reasons, has given a skewed impression.
Chris Broussard is a known hack that lies about his sources. Any who's ever heard of the "multiple sources" meme knows he's a bottom feeder
That's nice to see. Thanks Michael Terry. It's good to know real basket fans haven't forgotten what he did in NY. I still believe there are teams and coaches that want Lin.
I've actually read several highly supportive posts on Jeremy on Pistons sites/forums.And what a coincidence, the positive opinions are from posters who can actually articulate their thoughts in complete sentences involving actual logic and analysis.If I were Detroit and Joe Dumars, I'd play coy and demand Houston throw in D-Mo to "take Lin off your hands." And then I'd laugh maniacally at having swindled the Rockets in exchange for a S&T of a slow, aging Calderon.
Yeah, Dumars should totally trade rape Morey. Ask for Lin + Jones + D-Mo + 2 first round draft picks = Jose Calderon.Morey is desperate to unload Lin.
I've seen on clutchfans the post of the insider (ciberx) who says Howard will probably sign with the lakers because he likes hollywood so much. Just curios what's going to happen. I mean, will the lakers trade gasol for Lin for example? Maybe it's gonna take more than the free agency :D
No Dwight or Lin? there goes the "Asia" market for the Rockets.
Honestly, I think the Rockets are confused how to use Lin, absolutely confused. They didn't realize probably that Lin was so bad shooting the ball as an off ball PG who has to hit catch and shoot 3's. And Lin is an anomaly because everyone wants him to be role player & complimentary guy to the "star" of the team, but Lin's game forces Lin to be the actual star or at least the star guard of the team because of his style of play and effect on the game. Simply speaking nobody except for us here believes Lin can do that game in and game out. It's just a quandary for the Rockets to deal with.Ultimately I do believe they will deal Lin if DHO gets there, but if DHO doesn't Lin probably stays unless an elite big or comparable guard is offered for Lin.I would love for Lin to become a Laker, it's just unlikely. I heard that Clutchfans post about how Alexander mentioned Jarrett Jack over at the 4 Seasons in LA yesterday. Perhaps GSW will do a sign and trade with Lin/Jack should Dho go to Houston and GSW will bring home its abandoned prodigal son where Klay moves to the 3 or Lin comes in as super 6th man.I hate Mark Jackson as a coach for Lin but the owner Lacob truly believes in Lin and so the team will have Lin's back if they bring him back to GSW, which is where Lin probably really belongs. I never thought Lin might go back to GSW, but if the Jack thing is true, I can see a sign and trade to GSW. Makes way more sense than sending Lin to the Lakers where Lin might explode and the Rockets would look like idiots.
So much for owner's love on Lin. I remember less than one yrs ago, there is another OWNER who seemingly will back Lin up no matter what.
I think Rocket would love to send both Asik and Lin to the Lakers, thus freeing more cap space to sign for J.Smith and possibly Jack. But Lakers would not help the Rockets become a super team.
The funny thing is I think Lin is going to really be ready for the season this year. He will come out guns blazing. Good luck to the Rockets should they trade him. They will end up being second guessed. Just as we all could see Lin building up steam during the Linsanity run before it happened, we all can see it coming again. Lin plays best when he is second guessed, mocked, and doubted - all of which are happening around him these days. I don't think Lin will ever be a great off the ball PG who just gets 5-6 open 3's a game and has to nail them all. He'll get better over this summer but I think that's just not his game and he'll always struggle in that role. But even if that's the role given to Lin if he's stuck with the Rockets, Lin is just going to ram his game down everyone's throat this year and do it with more success than last year.Lin to GSW for Jack in a sign and trade makes a heck of a lot of sense on many levels and it's the deal I see getting done now if Lin moves. And I still won't be shocked if Lin goes to Utah, where I'd hate for him to go, but it may be the best chance to be the star guard of an NBA team.For me, the Lakers are the dream destination, and a team where the refs can't call bs on Lin all day and get away with it long term. But we'll see..I think there's a .000001% chance of the Lakers actually wanting Lin.10 days and counting!
9 days left :P
If he does not show improvement soon then he might get sent back to the D-League unfortunately :(
Don't worry, Lin already is way beyond the league that he torched in two different stints. Lin dominated the D League the way an NBA All star should've.
Lin isn't eligible to be sent back to the D-league; he's too experienced.
Actually the new CBA allows players beyond the initial 2 year experience to be sent to the D-League, as long as they have their consent. That's how Yi got sent to the D-League when he played for the Mavs, and Lamar was reportedly going to be sent down until they decided against it but both those players were adjusting to a new team and system.But to think Lin would be sent down to the D-League now is ridiculous and suggests he wouldn't even be good as a 3rd string PG.
Lin will get triple double in any D-league game. It would be crazy to leave it there. He's the type of player who makes everyone better. Nobody is as versatile as Lin now after all he has gone through. He can hold his own in all situations and thrive to make progress as one of the most intelligent NBA player.
The preseason game tix in Taiwan were sold out within few hours. I guess it does not matter if Lin will go or not....
I'd imagine there would be riots on game day if Lin isn't on the team and they still went.
I hope people in Taiwan show some loyalty to Lin and boycott the game or at least request a team change. Lakers and Warriors will play in Shanghai and Beijing. Rockets still have strong support in China despite Lin not on the team.
The thing is, there are only around 10K seats available. In 2009, without Lin, the tix were sold within one day (not in 3 hrs like this time I know). So that boycott think is not gonna happen.
It isn't Taiwan politics or brawls breakout, they are not going to riot just because Lin isn't there. Rockets can easily just invite another Taiwanese player to play for that one game.
There were no riots when Yi was traded to the Nets, from the Bucks. Good thing the Bucks had Joe Alexander to speak some Mandarin to the crowd.
yeah i was exaggerating it a bit there. I'm expecting harsher backlash since Lin has much stronger ties to taiwan, but it probably won't be on a riot level. Still, I'll bet there will be a degree of animosity towards the organization not unlike the feeling here.
I do not know where are you guys from. I am from Taiwan, and I am still astonished how many ppl there constantly bashing Lin. The LOF vs LOH thing are happening in TW as well.
Are you saying there are LOHs in Taiwan?
@CCM1, oh...more than you can imagine...
Who's hating on him in taiwan? The media? The younger guys or the uncles?
There are bitter people no matter where you go.
That I really don know, haha, I don want to know anyway. Media are generally giving the impression that Lin is an player like LBJ I think. Doing everything for the team.
might i make a generalization that there's a subgroup of young wannabe ABC people in taiwan that talk and walk like they are from (the bad part of) Brooklyn but are actually born and raised in taiwan. i'd hazard a guess that it's this (type of) demographic that is down on lin because lin is not "ghetto".
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Please Houston, free Lin. I'm glad I have not bought a single piece of Rockets gear. Detroit would be fine. Heck, Lin would rather play pro-Am where he can actually play.Also, I still wouldn't be surprised if the Lakers take Lin down the line. They might need him to have one more year under his belt before he gets the keys to the car.
It's best for Lin to stay away from the Rox as far as possible; perhaps to the east conference is a good idea.
Surprised that no one mentioned anything about CP3 staying in LA. Via must still be in bed.
It have been mentioned before, and after the news came out who cares about CP3.
It was already 99% certain that Chris Paul was staying in LAC when Doc got traded there, so the official signing was pretty anticlimactic.
HeroesHangout (Google Hangout) with Jeremy Lin:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5pjGmjjEGA
My dream scenario for Jeremy is that he be included in a sign-and-trade to the Lakers along with a young PF (Jones or D-Mo) along with a future 1st Rounder for Howard and Blake. It seems that Houston wants to send Asik to Atlanta in a sign-and-trade for Josh Smith.Jeremy could start alongside Nash until Kobe comes back or be the 6th Man playing starter's minutes. Heck, he might even force the Lakers to start him in favor of Nash if he comes out blazing and keeps it up.I think the Lakers could surprise people even without Kobe.
TVN totally agree, but keep dreaming...the Lakers will NOT do it. If they actually do it, even I will think the Lakers are in complete disarray and panicking like mad. Yes we view Lin highly, but let's be honest, nobody in the NBA does. For the vaunted Lakers to sign Lin & PF & Pick and let Howard go in a S&T means the Buss family will be mocked and criticized all year long. Nothing short of an NBA title headed by Lin as a Laker in 2014 will shut everyone up. The problem is if Lin really went to the Lakers, that's a pathetic cast he's stuck with...old Nash, old Pau, old and injured Kobe sidelined till Dec realistically, decent Clark?, old Metta?, injured Hill? rookie Kelly?I mean Lin can turn that into a playoff team and get STATS, but let's be honest - that team is a 7th or 8th seed at best even with Lin and it won't amount to much and Lin will be hailed as an overhyped failure again...I'd like that trade only for what happens in the summer of 2014-2015 when the Lakers can retool and Lin is in yr3 of his contract.
I don't think the Rockets can get anything significant in trading Lin. They design the poison pill and they are going to get stuck. Perhaps they may waive Lin or buy out the contract. Lin then can go to whichever team he wants. That would be the best situation given that the NBA is full of ABL (anyone but Lin) teams.Lin will then surprise everyone again.
I hope Morey gets no trade offers (Very likely, they have driven down Lin's value to almost zero.) And is forced to buyout the remainder of Lin's contract. Lin signs with a new and better team.So Lin will get PAID by both the Rockets AND his new team. LOL!
If Lin were any color but Asian, his 13 ppg and 6 apg and top steals numbers and low usage with reasonable contract would make him a very attractive trade target for a team that's trying to win and not tank. People would be citing Lin's All Star caliber play in the 2nd half of last season and proclaiming him as a great young pg that simply needs more touches and minutes. They'd marvel at his defense, his unselfishness, his toughness, and his leadership. Were Lin any color but Asian, NBA GMs would be calling him "Jason Kidd with a jumpshot".
If Lin were any other color, let's say if he was Black ... Morey wouldn't go all out to trade for James Harden the "superstar". McHale would not blatantly marginalize Lin the way he has been, and he would allow Lin to play minutes without Harden on the floor. So that management can compare their games side by side with the ball in their hands.James Harden with the ball in his hands all the time, is naturally going to score more and have a higher PER, than someone who doesn't get the ball.
http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?id=9442373 Broussard at 21:48Jeremy Lin is available. He's been offered to at least one team. I talked to a GM last night, I asked if he's on the market. "Oh definitely. No question." Like no question.They would love to get rid of him?Yeah. If they bring in Dwight Howard.....Houston wants to bring in Dwight Howard obviously. He does not want to be strictly in a pick 'n' roll offense. That's why he didn't enjoy playing with Nash. Last year was all pick 'n' roll with the Rockets. One thing they have to do is convince Dwight they'll play a way offensively conducive to his skill set. Jeremy Lin was one of the players not invited. That's why they're looking to get rid of (him).
Dwight is Lin's ticket to leave the Rox. Harden and McHale's brand of basketball is just disgusting to watch. Let's pray that Lin may get out of Houston for whatever reason.
It's essentially McHale saying "I don't know how to coach basketball teams ... So I'm just going to put the ball into the hands of some 'superstars' and have them do everything for me and make me look good."He did that with Kevin Garnett, if you watch Minnesota Timberwolves games ... Garnett got almost no direction from the bench, and his talent alone was enough to take them to the playoffs.
RGiles22 @KillaRoy22 31 minAll this cause Jeremy Lin playing tonight after his last game!! @BAdaGREAT @Senor_RonMexico @AJEvansII pic.twitter.com/vNBjicMepqhttps://twitter.com/AJEvansII
My dream destinations for Jeremy would be: Grizzlies,Spurs & any team that would want him to run the point.I don't care if will not be THE leader,I just want him to play for a team that will appreciate his talent & under a coach that will believe in him.
Behind Conley or Parker? No, thank you.
I don't care if behind Conley or sharing minutes with Parker.I just want to see him play his brand of basketball.
I want to see him play his brand of basketball too, he needs 34+ minutes for that.
YAY AREA'S FINEST @YAYAREASFINEST @KillaRoy22 is Lin playing tonight? can you ask someone there please for us?? lol RGiles22 @KillaRoy22 @YAYAREASFINEST nall he not playing lol ppl shld still be here tho to watch haha
More people want to see Lin. Even the World Star comments are saying the dunk on Lin was wack! lolhttp://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhI708svGulyC50Pwu
Looks like Joseph is there though. Good for him, he needs to try to at least get to Division II.https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BOIxyXVCYAAySFI.jpg
like: Swanny2Timez • a day agoYeah I'm sorry but it doesn't count as getting dunked on if you go to block the lob. At least he tried 2 play D instead of stepping outta the way like a pussy
If lin stays and DH comes to HOU. We might see Lin using his outlet pass ability more. Because DH and Harden demand the ball so much, Lin will be like "let me give you the ball now b4 I even start to dribble it in the back court.". And then he will slide into the corners like a Ninja!..lol
And, as the season goes on, he learns "Well, I should not go to the corners, I have to wait at the middle court and see because Harden and CP25 might turn the ball over and I am A PG, I am the last line of the defense (Transition D in particular)" LOL....Sorry, this silly season is too intense, I have to do something silly. :P
I think I might have to put my preseason ticket on the "trading block"soon.I won't put out a "poison pill" but watching Rockets without Jeremy is crap,and I like the Pacers, but they haven't grown on me yet.
Is it refundable?
Not sure.I guess not
I'm going along the obsession with the default smartness of MIT Sloan School of Management and hence all the mishandling of Jeremy since the 3rd game of last season till now is just a smoke screen by the Rox owner Leslie Alexander. Les, a very shrewd businessman clearly understands Jeremy's talents cannot be taken out of his winning formula for NBA championship and synergising his international business. He will not allow other teams to snatch Jeremy from him. You can say I'm living on a fantasy...lol Before anyone calls me out, I'ld use the similar sentence when I was the 1st here to point out Harden's stat pad, to wrap up this seemingly silly comment.I hope I am wrong, dead wrong.
When I say default smartness of MIT, I meant default smartness of shrewd businessman, not mine(I'm just an ordinary, novice NBA fan)I believe Les is way smarter than many NBA team owners although his Rox record doesn't reflect that.I'm kinda sad that now that Les has decided to dump Jeremy, there isn't any other team has enough confidence in Jeremy's talent to sign him.
Don't let other people disappoint you, just trust only Lin just like me.
Rikki, will heed your advice and carry a big smile like that one on your profile picture(Jeremy).:)
Look at it this way ... Jeremy Lin as the Rockets star player will not attract Dwight Howard to sign there. James Harden, doing the same thing that Lin does so well, can get Howard to sign.Perception is everything in the NBA. Harden just "looks" more like a superstar player.
Well seems to me that if you are a good scorer or can do flashy moves, you're a superstar in the NBA.
Lin does flashier moves than Harden and would easily outscore Harden if the refs didn't rob Lin of 4-6 free throws every game.
JLin can come to Sacramento, it won't mess anything up with the DUBS. Everyone in the bay area can make the drive to watch him play in Sac! Sac needs a point guard too! We'll take Asik and Lin for Cousins and Reke!
Not sure about Keith Smart as competent coach who is willing to give Lin minutes and teammates who may actually prefer playing with Pizza Guy
Rikki KS is gone.
Oh right, I forgot lol. But that Malone guy is still part of Warriors who don't think highly of Lin, right?
I think solidz is right. Lakers are playing tough for Dwight but when or if he decides to sign with houston they can't tell Kobe or nash "we're going to tank". My little hope is Asik will be sent to knicks and chandler in la... But it's just another fantasy trade in My mind :D
But the real question is, won't they consider getting Lin the same as tanking?
Not at all. Steve nash hasn't won a ring yet. Kobe wants to win another title. Lin is a great competitor. We'll see....
Morey said they don't intend to.move Lin and/or Asik.... I don't believe him anymore .... We'll see if he's true
@Spotless, when did Morey say that? Source/link please.
At 10:15 http://www.sports790.com/player/?station=KBME-AM&program_name=podcast&program_id=FeaturedInterviews.xml&mid=23418681
He claims he was taking calls not making them. At it was when he was trying to create cap room for Dwight.
Morey has always been straight up when talking about possible trades and assets. If he is saying they don't intend to trade Jeremy and Omer, I'm tending to believe him. Whether it's really true or not, it was also great to hear him say how Dwight was interested in playing with Omer and Jeremy and how Dwight understood the importance of basketball in China.
Morey was also on record on being happy with T-Rob and hoping for him to develop. No GM would willingly say they're looking to trade a certain player. We have to just wait and see what happens.
It's rather obvious that Morey was lying. A GM asked him? Which team? Both Lin and Asik are not FA but of course inquiries can be made by interested teams. However, so far we have heard no team showing interests to trade for Lin.
Morey is a liar, he's not even a good liar when talking on the phone, he struggles to come up with a decent answer.
I wish this trade would go down: Lin for Jameer Nelson. Dwight Howard would get his Orlando pg, Lin would get a new young team to turn around.
I wish Howard re-sign with LA, Josh Smith joins the Rox, Lin traded to the Spurs.
Orlando would be fine with me...i could finally get to see him.
If Lin goes to Spurs, at least he would be getting yelled at because he did something wrong BB wise. It would be good to play under someone like Pop for next one or two years. It would be great if Lin goes to Spurs; at least, he would be judged by his BB skills.
Love to see Spur+Lin vs Heat.Spur teammates will not let Lin get trapped by Heat defense so easily.
It's upsetting that players working hard, potentially getting cut to make cap space room. Seems like they could trade Royce White to another team with cap room plus $1.72 Mil cash to clear cap space. You'd have to pay him that $1.72 Mil next year anyway but at least he wouldn't be taking up cap space. Maybe a little extra $ just for the headache/handling fee. They could then waive him or just let him sit in their D-league or whatever.
Royce will regret all this drama when he finally lost his job.
Royce probably doesn't care.
Exciting times indeed for us and our boy JLin! I'm excited how all these drama will end up...One thing I'm sure though , wherever JLin ends up ,- Jeremiah 29:11 says - "For I know the plans I have for you,” declares the LORD, “plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future."The future is still bright for Jeremy Lin!
http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2013/07/02/pistons-continue-pursuit-of-athleticism-in-free-agency/if the pistons can get lin , jose smith and andre Iguodala. That will be amazing .
Detroit would be a good place for Jeremy. He likes working with underprivileged kids.
I kind of like this article.It's sad seeing teams go after dwight howard like teenage girls going after justin beiber.
Yeah! I wonder too...What's with these teams desperately seeking Howard?
d12 hardly played above the rim last year due to bad back.
@ESPNChrisPalmer: Hearing strongly that Howard will resign with the Lakers.Can't wait to see morey with egg on his face. He sounded so confident too.
@RyanNBA: @ESPNChrisPalmer How confident are you that your source is right?@ESPNChrisPalmer: @RyanNBA Very confident.
Make a internet meme.. Tries to dump Lin twice, Instead, gets dumped by Dwight twice. Hahahahahaha. Effing dick!
Thank you very much solidz :D via's influence is getting stronger on you :Dnow i'm gonna wait if there will be the trade gasol/Lin
I have a feeling that Dwight doesn't want to leave his good life in LA. He strikes me as a guy who values other things more than basketball stuff. He's not the type of guy who is playing for his legacy in NBA history, not that he has any legacy. Therefore, I think he will stay in LA, and would be surprise if he decides to join Rockets, although I would be impressed by and respect his decision to join Rockets.
MDT > McHell
Man, nobody can get their story straight...we'll just wait till July 11 and see where it all ends. Listening to these idiots who have no better information than us is comical.The guy working the 4 Seasons restroom who hears Les Alexander talking to Morey while taking a leak is probably more in the know than these clowns.
Kristine Leahy @KristineLeahyI've said all along I thought Dwight would return to LA, but recently received some new information that sounds like it'll be Houston.
Hope this gonna end soon. My last prediction: sign and trade Lin and Asik for howard and blake. Then the rockets gonna sign josh smith
She's a tv sports anchor and not a highly touted one. I would not give what she says much credence at all. I am more inclined to think Palmer above knows something we do not. Dwight probably realized ballhog Harden is no better than ballhog Kobe and Kobe is tons older and on his way out while Harden will be in Houston another decade. The exposure and glamor in Houston stinks compared to LA....
LOL! It would be funny if Dwight chooses not to sign with the Rockets. Morey is a fool for wasting all his time pursuing D12, while other teams are busy making moves and getting better.Clippers just traded Bledsoe and Caron Butler for Jared Dudley (Who I believe is better than Harden) and J.J. Reddick. Clippers are now the contenders, Rockets are not even with Dwight.Moreyball has abandoned stat-driven value players, and now it is all Star-Driven.
Harden is a much better player than Dudley, but if Lin is the main guard of a team, Dudley is the ideal fit to build around Lin because Dudley is a more efficient shooter and plays a more classic team game. Dudley in essence can specialize in catching and shooting and hitting 3's. The Clippers and every other contending team is snatching up quality long distance 3 ball shooters while the Rockets want to get deals in place for Lin and Asik before Howard has even committed.
Let's pray the idiotic Rockets trade Lin regardless. There's not a lot of open starting PG spots. In some sense, Lin is lucky to still technically have one right now with RedNation. Quite honestly the problem is Nash no longer deserves a starting spot in the NBA. I love Nash in his prime, but Father Time is harsh. Even if it's not Lin, someone besides Nash should be starting at PG this fall for the Lakers. The Rockets and Suns should trade Lin Dragic straight up and then the Suns can either use Lin/Bledsoe together, Lin as a 2 guard, or trade Lin for assets.
Rockets traded Dragic 2 times, and laughed at his Player option request. Dragic does not like to play for the Rockets and McHale.
Phoenix just traded for Bledsoe -- that's how much they value Dragic. Unlike Jeremy, he was given the reins to the team and two quality big men (Gortat and Scola). But he simply doesn't have what it takes and the Suns see that now. Bledsoe is a gamble because he hasn't shown he can be a quality starter either, but it's a gamble a team like Phoenix has to take.Phoenix's GM says they'll play both together...uh yeah. Sure. Let us know how that works out. The smallest, weakest backcourt in the league with neither being a quality 3pt shooter. Dragic was 32% and Bledsoe only had 1 attempt per game.They'll probably trade Dragic at the mid-season deadline unless Bledsoe turns out to be a bust.
What do you guys think of the story about the Rockets trying to trade JLin to the Pistons in return for Jose Calderon? It'd be great to see JLin playing with the Pistons' promising you big men.
Seems like $5 million / season for 2-3 years might be enough for Calderon...http://fansided.com/2013/06/16/detroit-pistons-want-to-keep-jose-calderon-but-dont-want-to-overpay/
I don't know I don't see the rockets getting an old player. I am getting more vibe that Dwight will sign with the lakers. He likes getting pampered and lakers pampered him to death. He likes LA too much. In the end he will say, I want to make it work. I'm staying. Would pay big money to see Morey's expression the moment he finds out.
Jose Calderon was paid $11 million last year, do you really think he would take such a drop off in paycheck down to $5 mill ?At the least, Calderon will demand an equal salary to Jeremy @ $8.4 million. Which makes it a useless trade, because the Rockets are trying to shed salary.
Rocket's tried to draft Trey Burke With Harden and Dwight, they would need a jump-shooting point guard. They’ll try to move Jeremy Lin but that’s not likely at those dollars [$8.4 million per for two more seasons]. They drafted Isaiah Canaan [No. 34 pick) from Murray State, who’ll help. He’s a point guard who’s more of a shooter, but can he start?“They were all over trying to get Trey Burke on draft night but Utah made that deal.”
According to Laker-tied sources who have a vested interest in sowing disinformation.
To those who slammed morey for trying to trade lin and asik, get facts before making assumptions. Teams called IN inquiring about Lin/Asik. They were never even put on thr trading block as morey has already confirmed those two are NOT available. Unless something crazy happens with smith/howard signing, dont expect this to change.
Moron giving benefit of the doubt. GTFO you naive idiot.
True. Morey is deceptive, of course, because that's the nature of the job and every GM is, but I tend to doubt he would lie about a specific fact like that. As GM's go, he's about as open as it gets. There's no need to lie about facts when you can be vague like he usually is. He said specifically that he only received requests.Keep in mind that the only other reports we get are from anonymous sources. If we have to choose, reports from anonymous sources are as good as air. Remember that other teams have a very strong interest in anonymously running down Houston's players right now, to drive down their price so they can acquire them, reduce their value so Houston is weaker in deal making, put doubt in Howard's mind about joining, for a GM's own vanity and attention, and to spite Morey, who is an annoying thorn in the side of much of the NBA.Morey would trade Lin, but he will need to get a starting caliber guard somewhere along the way. Beverley has a lot of potential but his sample size is small and he's still poor at defense. But, he does have potential and is MUCH cheaper. He's not Lin, but in this role he's close enough and for so much less that, if Morey can find a safety net, he'd do it, IMO. Also, maybe Morey thinks Lin could be Linsanity again, or maybe he doesn't, but I'm convinced he's not willing to push it for various reasons.
Lmao solidz calm down child. You believed in a rumor just because it included lin's name in it. But when Morey himself goes out to dispel these rumors as false, your only response it is "gtfo moron". Let me guess you are probably one of the people who genuinely believe rockets signed lin for 25 MILLION just so they can intentionally ruin his career, because this is the business model for teams looking for compete for titles right? And you call me naive? Oh man so much irony, where do i even start?
He gave the old "not looking to trade" response.In other words: they'll trade Jeremy for the right price. But Omer I think they want to keep because 1) Jeremy made him look 100X better than her is offensively and 2) Howard wants a quality backup to reduce his minutes (to stay healthy from back problems).
In the hall of fame.
Morey's strength in team building is in valuing players who are already in the NBA (and maybe valuing players who have played in professional leagues). I'd guess this is because of the sorts of numbers he prefers to model player value on, e.g., I don't think there's nearly enough data to use plus-minus at the college level.My impression is that he doesn't hit very often in the draft. Notice how defensive he was about missing on Lin, too:http://www.economist.com/blogs/gametheory/2012/04/predicting-performance-basketballI enjoyed the Wages of Wins take down of Morey's article:http://wagesofwins.com/2012/04/23/why-daryl-morey-is-full-of-it/The correct response when someone else uses different numbers to predict something successfully that you didn't is to ask if those numbers give a better result in this context. Morey dismisses Ed Weiland for predicting Lin by comparing Lin's box score to another player's from the same year. Problem is, those numbers AREN'T what Ed Weiland used, at all. He used 2-point FG pct and RSB40, which Ed says predicts athletic ability at the next level, which is highly sensible. As you'll recall, I always bang the drum on athletic ability because that's the primary thing that separates players from one another in the vast majority of cases. It's far easier to make it if you're very athletic. Ed didn't need to see Lin's combine scores to know he was athletic because he has discovered that the foregoing numbers are a good proxy. They may even be better than combine numbers, because they show speed and ability to coordinate speed to make plays.So Morey dismissed Weiland. I wonder if this is Morey being dumb cos his vision is clouded by defensiveness or if he's being intentionally misleading to throw other GMs off the track (as Wages of Wins hypothesize in their response).I mentioned earlier that Morey has a strength in team building. He also has a weakness, and that's not being able to value players outside of his statistical system. Dismissing Ed Weiland's approach, if he's being sincere, is evidence of that deficiency. When drafting, that’s a problem since he doesn’t have his safety net of numbers. Morey didn't play basketball beyond high school, and wasn't good. He's never coached. He isn't an expert at developing players and this is clear even in his choice of coach. McHale is no player developer like, say, Popovich is. Of course, no one is Popovich, but if Morey was really going to try to cover all angles in team development, he would take a risk and find a little known college coach, or an assistant NBA coach, who DOES know how to develop players.
Ed Weiland's method of figuring out a proxy in publicly available stats for athleticism is clever. It's analogous to the way my favorite team in football, the Seattle Seahawks, has in the last three years risen from the ashes to become a Super Bowl favorite this year. They didn't do it through high draft picks. They didn't do it through value signings of current NFL players. They identified good players the same way Weiland did in finding Lin by looking for very athletic players. For example, they have a formula for coming up with a player's overall athleticism that combines size, speed, strength, and quickness into one number. Using this model, they were able to draft players that others had overlooked in lower rounds...and then they coached them up: Bobby Wagner, Richard Sherman, Russell Wilson.So, it's another draft and another miss for Morey. Wages of Wins has a model thats predict draftee success very well:http://arturogalletti.wordpress.com/2011/06/23/a-note-and-the-goods-ranking-the-2011-draft-prospects/Their grade for Isaiah Canaan: C-. Projection: Bust.http://wagesofwins.com/2013/06/27/wages-of-wins-live-draft-coverage/The Spurs are more like the Seahawks. They know what they're looking for and know they can coach players up. What they're looking for can be found in free agents and in college. It's about time the Rockets focused on recognizing basketball players and developing basketball players as much as they do analytic methods of evaluating production.Weiland recognized that Lin is a basketball player. I'm not worried about Lin because he's smart enough to do his own development, whether here or elsewhere. BTW, Detroit would have been such a sweet place for Lin. Maybe not a fun place to live, but a team really set up for him and a championship history with an organization that knows about winning with team basketball.
TL:DR Morey is a ruthless effer who should never be trusted.
Your summary glossed over some key points.
Ed Weiland could put together a better roster than 90% of the GM's out there. The problem is politics and real life. You don't think a GM takes a guy because he owes an agent a favor? That's politics at its most basic and I think there are many more volatile and complex situations in where there are handshake deals and quid pro quo trades and picks and maneuvers. I believe Morey is a cornball/smart political gamer who knows how to make himself look good to his boss. I do know that the end result was that Lin was misused in Houston and that Calvin Murphy had it right. Harden should have been used as a Michael Redd spot up shooter and slasher. Lin should have run the show. The team would have been more successful. But that would have meant the owner knew more than his GM and Morey couldn't have that. Morey needed to show his boss he knew better and that he provided a value nobody else could to the team. Hence the Harden trade and hence Harden's idiotic iso or bust usage.I believe Lin fought very hard to just keep himself relevant last season. And in order to do that, it look all of Lin's talents. The fact he got better as the season wore on is a testament to his skills. Unfortunately, Lin didn't do enough as Morey convinced Alexander that Harden is the man and Lin is expendable at best.In the end, the Harden Lin thing doesn't even matter. Most of these GMs, fans, and players believe there are only 5-10 guys who matter as players in the NBA. So if you don't have an elite guy or 2, it doesn't matter as you won't even be close to championship level. And there are still many who questions Harden's elite status.
MT based on previous conversation about wutever you call it smoothed out +/-, it's based on actual historical data and used to correlate individual and team performance. And, this presupposes that you need actual NBA sample size in order to conduct such an extrapolation. My guess is Morey's stat analysis is also including ONLY nba stats with at least 3 years worth of history.Whereas, Weiland's expertise is in drafting rather than team building.This means, Weiland can pick out the diamond in the rough better than Morey can.However, this also means that Morey can build a better team than Weiland as Morey's output is team output rather than individual performance.And, if I am correct, it would be very ironic that Weiland would be the one higher on Lin than Morey.
Also I am sure Morey sees Weiland as a competitor rather than a peer.
I consider some of what you say often, @swing. What I wouldn't give to have an honest talk with Morey. Probably like you, I read Morey's Economist article as a defense to his boss. "It's not my fault I missed him." If that's the case, it's possible that his analytical mind can't ever see Lin for what he really is, because of his wounded ego.But, Morey HAS to know that Lin on a suitable team, say Detroit, is going to be an All-Star. If that happens, will Morey be embarrassed? Would Les even care if Houston has Harden, Dwight, and Smith? Maybe Morey does fully understand Lin's potential, and knows that Lin will never get that chance in Houston, and will let Lin go to a better situation. I don't know.Anyway, sooner or later he'll show what he can do. I hope we don't have to wait 2 years.
I think Weiland very well may be able to pick out diamonds in the rough better, @k gunner gold owns me. The Lin case is pretty good evidence. I don't think he got lucky. I think he had real insight.
But, Morey HAS to know that Lin on a suitable team, say Detroit, is going to be an All-Star. (*The way I see it, the team was already suitable to make Lin an All-Star, at least for the first 2 games then some people decide they don't want Lin to be an All-Star.)--------------------------------------------------------If that happens, will Morey be embarrassed? (maybe, just to get media attention though, deep down he'll make justification one way on another) Would Les even care if Houston has Harden, Dwight, and Smith? (all 3 combine will never be able to create the good feeling like Jeremy) Maybe Morey does fully understand Lin's potential, and knows that Lin will never get that chance in Houston, and will let Lin go to a better situation. I don't know. (He doesn't know, had the chance, but decide not to)
The dumbest team in the NBA currently is the NY Knicks. It has nothing to do with Lin. As a casual NBA fan, I could do a better job strictly in forming the roster, pretending for a moment that politics don't exist.The only rational basis for what the Knicks are doing is that multiple people with the Knicks organization owe a ton of favors to everyone from agents, to CAA, and vice versa etc. etc. I would be deflated as a Knicks fan knowing they traded for Bargnani and now are trying to get Elton Brand. These moves are just a complete effort to cement their status as "marginal and mediocre" to use SAS's words. They are a perennial 1st or 2nd round playoff flame-outs AT BEST.Also, I do love the fact that Lin got the best of the Knicks on and off the court. And now they will be punished as a middling forgettable team aside from being in NY. I hope the Nets take over the spirit of NY city in another decade or so.
Please no "Jeremy Lin contract could be a locker room issue" JR Smith!Frank Isola @FisolaNYDN 58mJ.R. would re-sign with the Knicks if the money is comparable. Also being courted by Pistons, Mavs, Bucks, Rockets and Bobcats.https://twitter.com/FisolaNYDN
Ladies and Gentleman, ...J.R.Smith
Rox already have a ISO heavy Guy, they try to add another one?
Let that waste product JR Smith go to the lowly Bobcats where he belongs, that thug punk!
I hope James harden slips on a banana peel and breaks his ass. And I hope McHale has a rodent crawl up his ass so he can no longer coach and then I hope Morey gets run over by a camel so he can't make any stupid decisions and then I'll be happy.
I for one am ready for Lin to move on from Houston. It's obvious that management and fans there don't want him on the team. Lin's fans also don't want him to be overshadowed by Harden and possibly D12 and Josh Smith. I think if D12/Josh Smith comes he actually needs to go to a different team rather than stick it out in Houston and have worse stats due to the lack of shot attempts and opportunities if they land those two. I doubt we'd ever be able to see Lin's true potential if he was forced to play alongside 2 more "stars."
Here are the latest odds: 95% chance JLin will remain a Rocket for next season. 2% chance he will play for the Lakers. 2% chance he will play for either the Hawks or Pistons. 1% chance he will play for another team.Morey probably threw out JLin and Asiks name to assess their market value and explore the possibility of acquiring two high profile players. The only reason he would give up on JLin would be to make such an acquisition. Since Chris Paul is off the market, the only other two players would be Howard and Josh Smith. This would require a sign and trade deal (trading both Lin and Asik), which I think neither the Lakers or the Hawks are interested. Currently, JLin's $20 million for next 2 years ($16.7 million in cap space) is a deterrent for most teams. Lakers may change their minds last minute when they realize they have no chance in retaining Howard. But since Howard did not push for Josh Smith, and instead showed interest in playing with both Asik and Lin, the Rockets may be content to just sign Howard straight up. Morey indicated that 20-25 minutes with Asik on the floor may have a bigger impact than an upgrade at the 4 position.So when Morey said the Rockets are not planning to move either JLin or Asik, part of it may be that he has assessed the trade possibilities, and he's not going to get fair value in return.
Also, I want to add that the Rockets invested a whole year of coaching, team building, and chemistry with JLin and Asik. They don't want to just throw that out the window for Josh Smith, who may be out of his prime. Last year was considered a success for the young Rockets team, and they want to build on that progression by retaining their core players. We saw JLin making huge improvements has the season progressed. And Asik was a candidate for most improved player of the year. So chances are that JLin will remain a Rocket, and I think he will prove to be an All-Star player regardless of his role in Houston.
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