Wednesday, April 24, 2013

Rockets @ OKC Game #2 Western Conference Playoffs Post Game Thread

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  1. Anyone see the play where jeremy got hurt?

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    1. i wanted to ask the same question too. Missed the game for the entire 1st quarter and early part of 2nd quarter.

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    2. Yes, it happened in the first half. Someone from the Thunder ran into his chest/body at full speed like Lin wasn't even there, and Lin was stationary. I guess he didn't immediately feel the pain as he continued to play in the first half. Maybe the contusion really didn't take full effect until some time went by at half time and then he was in bad pain right before the start of 3q and that was it.

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    3. I heard on the radio that it was Perkins.

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    4. Thanks guys.
      Hope Lin is alright and he gets to play the remaining games.

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  2. I'm just waiting for news regarding Lin's injury

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  3. How many outright turnovers, kicked balls, or poor looks for teammates did Harden create when he tried to be point guard?

    vs. how incredible he was when he was patient for dribble drive penetration by someone else or team ball movement to break down defense and then attack as closer?

    Beverley played well, but he benefited from having Harden AND Lin on floor as spacers because both are credible threats to score or play make for others. Ceiling for team is much higher with Lin than Beverley.

    Parsons over amp'd and missed many shots he should have made.

    Delfino showed up late, but overall, disappointment and shouldn't be renewed so we have max cap space for Dwight Howard if he ever decided to come to Houston.

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    1. Parsons missed a key open jumper, badly too.

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    2. Also, if Lin had missed that free throw in closing minutes, vs. Harden, imagine the criticism.

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    3. Parsons missed a lot of shots he should have made.

      Seemed over amp'd more than choked, though.

      Delfino, despite some late threes, total disappointment in first two playoff games.

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    4. I've seen enough of these rockets games to conclude that Harden is wearing-down the point that he's now over-rated.

      I only saw part of the 3rd and 4th, but when Harden kicked it out, I saw a few times Delfino drained it. Its not the results of the outcome, its that Harden found a wide-open player.

      How many 9-24 nights do we have to endure?

      Rox are too desperate to pass to him on the perimeter... we don't even look inside. I get that he's the franchise guy, but we are just so one dimensional.

      And Parsons... he just comes and goes during the games. Where is his intensity? OK to his credit, KD was only 10-25.

      Asik, is such a monster and we are so lucky to have him. Just a complete team player. I saw a play in the 3rd where he missed a dunk cuz he was fouled. He didn't complain and hustled back to play D - very impressed with him.

      Hope Lin recovers completely and quickly.

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    5. Parsons just looked over amp'd this game.

      Some drives where he had layup off of glass bounced off rim, instead of falling in.

      Delfino big, big disappointment first two games.

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    6. Yeah, Asik is the only other unselfish team player on that team, along with Lin.

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  4. I don't even remember at which point in game Lin hurt himself. Anyway, he played decently until he got hurt. But Bev stole the show. Bev's game is not fancy at all, and he does look like a jacked up, jumping goat; but he plays like an eveready battery bunny. "Takes a licking but keeps on ticking."

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    1. No way he can sustain that...

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    2. Yes, no way Bev can sustain his level of play, but my point is he will play with "energy" Mac loves whether he plays well or whether he sucks. In that sense, he's a little pest that never dies.

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    3. Bev will now be on their scouting list. Lets see how he adjusts.

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    4. I don't want to knock Bev too much -- he's a tough guy who plays his best and gives his all -- but his final possession sums up his game right now.

      On the final play, Bev scored a bucket...and lost the game. They Rockets NEEDED a 3, but Bev took 2 more seconds off the clock to pad his stats with a meaningless layup. Game over.

      Jeremy would have taken that 3, make or miss, because he knows that's the only way to win (even if he gets dissed for missing it).

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    5. Yeah, he won't get that many points. He will probably get around 10 points, but will not make that many bad passes, simply because he doesn't try to create good passes, which is good and bad. I agree Bev is a good back-up. I just am not sure what level player Lin is.

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    6. On that last play, Delfino was more at fault. You can't knock Bev too much on that one. Yes, he doesn't think sometimes, but sometimes too much thinking is bad for you.

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    7. They both screwed up in same way.

      Once that much time comes off the clock, and you have no timeouts, you MUST SHOOT the damn ball. Maybe you miss it. Maybe you make it. Maybe you get fouled. But you must shoot it, even if it ruins your boxscore line. A layup with 1.6s means nothing whatsoever. That clinched the game for OKC.

      That play was really a microcosm of a Lin-less Rockets. The guy with nice stats clinched the loss by making a mistake that the scapegoat starter would never make.

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    8. Didn't see the game but by the description of what happened, well said @zxcvb.

      Question: how did Bev have the ball? Surprised Harden didn't have it. Unless I'm missing something...

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    9. Bev rarely started any game, so let's not blame the back-up player. Probably was all hyped up to start. "Bev From Russia".

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    10. Zxcvb, I understand what you said. This is the culture Morey created for this team. He only gave short term contracts to his players and had several players compete with each other. So that made everyone only look out for their own stats, often at the expense of winning. That's so opposite of what Sam Presti created in OKC or Pop did in SA - stability and consistency.

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    11. That's also why Presti was so anxious at trading Harden, fearful of his contract problem affecting a possible Finals run. Teams with a lot of young contract year players are just unhealthy and selfish environment and rarely do well together.

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  5. I stepped away from the TV and saw that the Rockets made a run.

    Apparently, McHale went to a zone and OKC got lazy and started chucking up jumpers that clanked. I've seen it a million times before (especially at the college level). Throw in some ref-friendly FTs for Harden and the score got tight.

    Again, it was total fool's gold. Things got too easy for OKC and they had a huge lead in the 4th. Rockets got back in it...but the game was never in jeopardy once OKC clamped down and took the game seriously in the final 2 minutes or so.

    No Lin. No win. A meaningless run because OKC got lazy means nothing. Remember when Jeremy hit those big 3s to beat OKC in that comeback WIN??? That's a real comeback. This is nothing but fool's gold, lol. Enjoy your moral victories, Lin Haters! That's all you're going to get without him

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  6. Perkins is a very dirty player...

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  7. Jason Friedman ‏@JasonCFriedman 24s
    Jeremy Lin still getting treatment on chest injury. Will have an update when more info available.

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    1. Must have been a bad (deep) bruise. If it was Perkins, it happened very fast as the tv camera was following the path of a long pass and then boom Lin got hit midway from half court and the circle from what I remember.All I remember is that it was a huge body that ran into Lin like a Mack truck! Perkins is an asshole.

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    3. I hope it's not too bad...so long..

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    4. Lin says x-rays negative. Will continue treatment. Says as long as spasms stop he should be good for game

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    5. stupid Perkins..how come he didn't get a call??!!?

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  9. Unless it's really serious, I don't see JLin sitting out the next game, let alone rest of playoffs. First, because he plays with heart and will play through injuries and bumps and bruises no matter how people try to belittle him. Second, he is in a different situation than last year (i.e. no contract, etc.) Third, last year's backlash was pretty damn bad.

    He will play injured, and will probably play better for it. I hope he is okay. I have to remind myself that God's plan is greater than what we can see in the present moment and pretty much all season.

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    1. Luckily, they have two days of rest, so unless something broken or tissue is seriously damaged, he'll have time to recover.

      Weird freak accident. I didn't even see him get hit.

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    2. The haters are already saying he made the injury up, that he's pretending bc no one saw it.

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    3. That is completely absurd!

      Yes... JLin "made up" his injury so he would sit in the playoffs and potentially lose his starting spot to his back-up who is hot.

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    4. well the 85, 86, 87 percent healthy stuff from last playoff is probably still in the memory bank. just man up and play lin prove these racist idiots wrong.

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  10. Lin took several charges in the 1st half. He needs to protect his chest with his arms.

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    1. This is what puzzles me, I thought you can use your arms to protect, but every announcer says you have to raise your hands upright.

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    2. The proper way to protect a charge is to either

      1) point your arms straight down in front of you and hold one wrist

      2) x your arms over your chest - commonly used in women's basketball but is used for men too.

      Of course, that's only if you know hits are coming.

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  11. There's the regular season and there's the playoffs. Lin has paid the FO back many times over by setting up Asik, Parsons, PP, DMo and other rookies to improve their games during the regular season so that their trade value has increased significantly. I think they will continue that role for Lin for the next season using Bird rights.

    During the playoffs Lin has either failed to increase his tempo or McHale has handed over PG duties to Harden and Beverly whose quickness has made him competitive at the playoff level. The Linsanity period proved that Lin definitely has it to run PG for a team at a high level (almost solely responsible for getting Knicks into playoff contention).

    So all those comments about Lin being finished are deliberate troll comments or naive misunderstandings.

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  12. From @jasonfriedman:Lin says x-rays negative. Will continue treatment in days to come. Says as long as spasms stop he should be good for game 3.

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    1. Awesome. He seems to play better banged up for some reason.

      Sore elbow, bloody nose/head, sprained ankle...as long as it's not his knee.

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    2. the right chest bruise will certainly affect his shooting motion.

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    3. Yep...expect his shooting woes to continue. He'll find other ways to be effective though.

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  13. Jason Friedman ‏@JasonCFriedman
    Lin says x-rays negative. Will continue treatment in days to come. Says as long as spasms stop he should be good for game 3.

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    1. Thanks @via! So reliable! Now the backlash will be why he didn't come back... People will find a way to hate on Lin.

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    2. Now, Lin just needs to say he is at 85% for next game. HAHA.

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    3. no, he should say " I am not coming back until I am 115%" like Rose did, and see what's people's reaction.

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    4. a lot of that 85% crap fr Nykfans going around..

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    5. That 85% crap is not funny. You know the media calls Lin weak for that right?????

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    6. @cali7~ I hope they don't go blahblah Lin abandoned his team, could've used his points to win game...Stupid haters :/

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    7. yea, stupid haters will find whatever possible way to make fun of lin, really hate that...but I learn, I learn not to give so much damn to them.

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  14. I kind of remember the play. Perkins plowed into Lin in the paint when the ball was at the perimeter. Lin fell to the ground. There was no offensive foul call. Lin got up when the Thunder shot the ball from the perimeter.

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  15. McHale: "Not having Jeremy (Lin) forces us to play Patrick more."

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    1. Hahahahahahahahaha! More like, "yes! I got to go with the guy I've been wanting to go with since we acquired him!"

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    2. Mac, just play Bev 48 minutes.

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  16. Some of you sound like defeated p*s*ies. Stop worrying about Bev and instead worry about Lin's injury. Hope that it's not serious.

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  17. For anyone who saw my post in the last thread, I TOTALLY didn't mean to sound like a troll! I am a huge fan. I just got freaked when i saw Bev bring up the ball and play pg instead of Jeremy in the first half. Then the injury........Lin will bounce back and I hope it is for the next game! I am just so angry at McHale! He has done nothing but build Bev up mentally, and tear Lin down. Lin is an iron man to still be standing!.

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    1. yea, lin will be ok. some of us just need to be a little bit more patience and confidence in lin. the bumping road is what makes it more interesting and inspiring. :)

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    2. Yeah, but this series sure will be boring without seeing him play. He played decently before he got out. Oh well, I guess this means I have time to exercise more.

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  18. Lin suffered injury before the half. Had heating pad on it, but when he ran back thru tunnel, it flared up. Will know mor 2moro on G3 status
    JLin on the injury: "This is easily the most frustrating thing that's happened this entire season. - Hochen

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    1. Lin's not sure who he ran into. "I hit somebody," he says. Thought he was gonna be ok. Then it went "crazy" as he ran back thru tunnel.

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  19. If Lin plays next game, which I think is doubtful because a deep contusion usually doesn't take two days to heal, Lin would probably be wearing some sort of chest "flak jacket underneath his jersey (similar to what Melo, his great friend, normally wears always). So I'm sure he won't be playing comfortably next game if he even plays. I think he'll probably miss game 3 but play in game 4, but I could be wrong.

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    1. "similar to what Melo, his great friend..."

      LOL. :)

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    2. But I recall Lin having a great shooting game after he had to wear that elbow sleeve. Maybe the same thing will happen lol

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    3. It was a magically enchanted elbow sleeve.

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  20. The Rox lost only by 3 points! I predicted loss by at least 15 LOL. They were tied late in the game, but I knew they were still going to lose. One thing that I didn't figure on was how generous the ref was going to be giving Harden all that free throws. In the playoffs! Wow. Not a bad thing, just surprised.

    Beverley played very well. 12 rebounds!

    Lin is still the better player, but he's lost confidence playing for Morey and McHale. Confidence is necessary to propel him to the next level. Lin better get the heck out of Houston AS SOON AS THIS SERIES IS OVER IN ABOUT A WEEK (otherwise ASK for a trade) because the Rockets "basketball minds" have tried to kill his confidence all season long. On the other hand, they've always encouraged and supported the backups (Douglas, Beverley, and if he's stuck there, some other backup in the future too) and at the same time NEVER supported Lin.

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    1. I decided I am going to name my hyper, skinny black dog "Beverley".

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    2. I suggest you to name him "Battery" instead.

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    3. I already have a dog named "Battery".

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    4. well then, i suggest you to name him " Beverly the battery".

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    5. Too long. I couldn't pronounce that name.

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    6. Maybe I will name him "Lin".

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    7. Ha ha ! My kids call him Bev-erly Hills Chihuahua! Hyper, jumps around, buggy eyes! Seriously, Bev and TD played so well bec they were supported and encouraged by coaches and press. Lin has been criticized and doubted from the word go. Look what happened when D'Antoni believed in him.

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    8. I definitely strongly suggest you to name him back "Beverly", now.

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    9. How about Bev Bunny and nickname BB.

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    10. I like Beverley and Doulas now with the Kings. I just CAN'T STAND Sorey, McHell and Damnpson.

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    11. I have a cute little energetic black cat named Beverley who I named after Patrick Beverley.

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    12. I love cats. I named all my cats after various desserts... I will not change their names after a certain battery. LOL

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  21. As long as here is no fracture, I think he should be okay. I don't get the spasming part though. Contusion and spasm?

    Whatever the case, Lin gets bashed whether he plays or he doesn't play. Now that Beverley had a coming out game, they are bashing Lin even more. I absolutely hate this Houston fan base. I hope Lin is relegated to a 6th man role before getting traded. The whole freaking season they set up bev to succeed. Now he has won the job.

    This couldn't have happened to Lin at a worse time. I know god has a plan for him but I really don't know what that is. Such a deflating and annoying day in every possible way.

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    1. God works in a mysterious way. Bev will play so hard and hyper next game, that Bev will have spasm all over his body, and then Lin will come back and lead Rockets to victory.

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    2. Durant also believes in God. FYI, Lin doesn't have a monopoly on God.

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    3. Don't know. I just cannot judge Lin as a player because I do not see him playing the position the way he should. We follow him like an idol with this vision of Linsanity but really cannot judge him in the way he has been utilized this year.

      This result is quite disheartening. I feel worse than I did the last game because it was incredibly frustrating to not see him out there, not knowing what da hell happen to him.

      I just feel like he lost his his starting pg tonight. And I hate the fact that he has given the ammunition to those who have been advocating to start bev over Lin.

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    4. Occupatio when did I imply that Lin has a monopoly on god? WTF is your problem?! U wanna start shit?

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    5. Bev got to start because Smith is a bad matchup against Thunder. The Rox went small ball with Harden-Lin-Bev in order to change things up because the original line-up was not working.

      In other words, Bev starting has NOTHING to do with Bev somehow taking over the PG position. It was done to add 'variance' to the game and change things up against a superior opponent. Don't get disheartened by this game's lineup; it has no impact on Lin's role in the big picture next season.

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    6. Good for Beverley. He's like JLin last year who was ready to play off the bench. There's no reason why they both can't do well at the same time. Even if JLin doesn't work out with the Rockets, I'm confident that he will be a great PG for another team. The most important thing is to recover from this injury and go out and play his game. Then continue to work on his overall game in the offseason.

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    7. Hey guys, focus on Lin please.

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    8. When did Lin lose his starting PG spot when he started along with Beverley? Did Nash lose his PG spot to Steve Blake because Blake performed well in a few games when he was out? Did Felton lose his spot because he started with Prigioni or Kidd?

      Use some rationale please.

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    9. U are also the one who doesn't seem to be able to pick up cues.

      Bev didn't get the start just because of match up. McHale also wanted to find a way to get him more minutes because arguably, he played the best the last game?

      If you think today's performance did absolutely nothing to Lin's place on the hierarchy of this team, u just don't have the ability to look beyond the obvious. Remember this team almost beat the thunder without Jeremy in there, the same Jeremy McHale has marginalized this season.

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    10. 0ccupati0 is right in regards to why Bev got to start alongside Harden/Lin. You're an extremely shortsided if you want Lin to take on a 6th man role.

      Let HOU's retarded fan base think what they want. They've been wrong all season, who cares what those inbreds think.

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    11. Are u really comparing Nash vs Lin in terms of how they are viewed by their respective organizations?

      McHale has been itching to play bev more throughout the entire season. The only players who don't really have to worry about losing their spot are harden, parsons and maybe ASik. Lin? Come on now.

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    12. Solidz75, " I know god has a plan for him but I really don't know what that is. "

      I am not a believer of any religion but this idea that Lin playing well is part of God's plan is offensive to me. Sorry but the world and "God's plan" does not revolve around Lin and the prayers of his fans.

      Solidz75, "WTF is your problem?! U wanna start shit?"

      Is that part of God's plan? Are you his messenger?

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    13. I don't want to mess and start shit with Solidz now because
      I feel like Solidz can punch a watermelon with his hands now...

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    14. Alright alright. You guys just wait and see what happens the next game and possibly the next season if Lin is still around....

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    15. No occupatio, I'm just bringing up the fact that Lin is a very religious kid and I just feel bad that this situation has happened such a good dude. Why does religion offend you so much? Did I say that god wants only lin to succeed? Something inexplicable happened to him today and was trying to put it in the context of his belief? Was that so freaking offensive for u to start crap with me?

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    16. Solidz75, so has Lin lost his spot yet? Last time I checked, Lin's started every game this season for the Rockets, no? So you are gonna freak out with something that is yet to happen and think every Lin fan should join you?

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    17. Starters finish games though...they don't get benched for their back up. Just sayin'.

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    18. k.smith "Starters finish games though...they don't get benched for their back up. Just sayin'."

      Yes, that happened too many times in the regular season. But, in fairness, it has not happened once in the playoffs. First game was a blowout in second half and Lin was in foul trouble, second game he was injured.

      From what I see these two games, McHale intends/intended to play Lin A LOT.

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    19. Cara just wait and see. Lin will start the next game if he is able to play because the rox will go with a small line up but for anyone to think that lin's job is secure after today is really trying to ignore the inevitable.

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    20. So why you care about whether Lin's job is secure or not so much? If Lin performs, he will find his way onto the court. No coach can justify benching a productive player every game. When he was that minimum wage scrub, he still forced his way onto the court eventually. Now with a 25 million contract, you fear he could not? Are you crazy or stupid?

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  22. When I saw Lin only played 19 Mins, I thought he got benched. I guess it is even wore, because he is injured.

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    1. [Ultimate Rockets link]
      Chest injury knocks out Lin. Questionable for Saturday, with “most frustrating thing that’s happened this season”

      Jeremy Lin knew as soon as he ran back to the court for the second half that something was very wrong. He thought he would play. One way or another, he insisted to Rockets trainer Keith Jones and coach Kevin McHale he could play, even as he was grimacing in obvious pain.

      Moment later, just as the ball was about to be inbounded for the second half, he was done for the night, knocked out by a bruised chest muscle. X-rays were negative and he is hopeful that he could return on Saturday for Game 3 against the Oklahoma City Thunder, but as with his played return on Wednesday, he knew it was too soon to say.

      “This is easily the most frustrating thing that’s happened this entire season,” Lin said. “I’ve been healthy all season. The second half of a playoff game, on the road, we’re playing well, Game 2, it’s just … yeah, it speaks for itself.

      “It was fine as I was sitting here at halftime. I tried to run out of the tunnel and couldn’t really run. When I did, it would go crazy. We’re supposed to just see what happens tomorrow, how it feels tomorrow. As long as stuff stops spasm-ing, I’m good. I don’t know how any of this stuff works.”

      Lin received treatment through the second half, but never returned to the bench. He was not sure how he was injured, but by halftime knew it might be more serious than he realized in the first half.

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    2. thanks, via.

      Let's hope the spasm stopped and he'll be ready for Saturday.

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  24. It's a no-win situation for JLin. If he couldn't play the next 2 games (which I think Rockets will lose both), he loses valuable playoff experience. If he plays with the injury, he's not going to be effective since it will probably affect his shooting and movement, and more fuel for the doubters.

    I'm praying that his injury is not serious (although the "spasms" doesn't sound good) and he could come back and finish strong in the next games. Go JLin!

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    1. I hope he could get back.
      OTOH, please don't FORCE it [and exacerbate the injury, if it's somewhat...bad.] I'm sure Joseph will be reading all the tweets about being scared/ soft/ faking it etc...

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    2. Pretty s.hitty situation.

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  25. Lin is done in Houston. He need to wake the fuck up and request to be traded. The entire Rockets organization and their fans are a disgrace. Lin could have a better offensive game than Bev, if he was given the freedom. even in the first game, McHale gave the PG duty to Bev. Shows you how much mchale respect LIn!!

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    1. I have no problem with Bev playing PG AND defending the opposing PG. It lets Lin save his energy and avoid foul trouble.

      You guys are making too big a deal about the positions. I don't see how Lin was misused today. He got his time, and sufficient touches.

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    2. why is lin done? not mchale? may be mchale want to resign after the season...

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    3. you're still deluding Lin situation will get any better in Houston?? Sigh

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    4. 777am, you basically play the position you are defending. Bev got the defensive assignment on Westbrook. That is why Bev was at PG tonight; it is not because Bev is taking the PG role from Lin.

      The lineup tonight was to deal with the Thunder. You should not read too much into it. In the playoffs, it is common for lineups to be fiddled with in order to matchup against the other team.

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    5. ah...yes, I am still deluding, with hope on my secret dream. You never know, till the end.

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    6. I know you're frustrated but Lin's gonna be a rocket for awhile. Yes, HOU fans are the most ignorant, hate filled fans. Don't disagree with you there.

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    7. how much teams have to give up to get Lin? realistically.

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    9. Occupati0

      why can't Bev guard Westbrook, stand in the corner and let Lin run the offense?
      everyone is taking the PG duty from LIn!! where have you been all season??

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    10. Are these so called Lin fans the biggest overreaction group in the world?

      Beverley started with Lin and performed well in one game. Big deal. The Rockets still lost as well.

      Is David Lee also done in GSW and as a PF because his team performed better and managed to win a game without him?

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    11. Wrong Occupation. If Steve Nash rolls over to guard the shooting guard do you think he moves to shooting guard. Wrong, Occupation, Wrong! ...

      Lin is not playing point guard because the coaches don't think he's a point guard its just that simple. nothing else.

      Side note: why is James Harden listed as a point guard... which he is. As a point guard he has one of the, if not the, assist to turnover ratios in the nba. He is NOT a shooting guard. Change that NBA and ESPN!

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    12. @ Lydia

      i love your optimism. but in houston, Lin was put in a position to fail.

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    13. *WORST ASSIST TO TO RATIOS...

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    14. 777am said "why can't Bev guard Westbrook, stand in the corner and let Lin run the offense?"

      That's a good question. It is clear to me that Bev cannot stop Westbrook dribble drive penetration as well as Lin can. McHale probably just (mistakenly) thinks Bev is the better defender, despite the fact that he gives up penetration frequently and is an undisciplined fouling machine like Smith.

      However, Lin guarding WB puts him in danger of foul trouble and requires a lot of energy. Lin's assignment is just to guard Fisher or Martin, which is not hard to do (Except Lin, again, gave up corner threes by overhelping. The whole team was giving up ball-side corner 3s by overhelping; the coaching staff have somehow been okay with that all season, which is why I think they are incompetent.) Anyway, I think it is possible to justify Lin NOT guarding Westbrook even if one thinks Lin is the better defender, as I do.

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    15. If Lin wants to save his BB career he MUST be traded out of Houston. The way the Rockets "basketball minds" have treated Lin all year, from RIGHT AFTER the signing until all the way to the end of the season IS ABSOLUTELY DISFUNCTIONAL & ABNORMAL. I seriously do feel like he'll be traded very soon (way before Summer), because there were so many signs as soon as they acquired Harden. In the strange head-scratching event that he doesn't get traded really quick, Lin should really ASK to be traded.

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    16. 10/10 "If Steve Nash rolls over to guard the shooting guard do you think he moves to shooting guard. Wrong, Occupation, Wrong! ..."

      Nash isn't a good example. He is often 'hidden' away on defense by putting him on the weakest wing player. Just like Kyrie Irving is a poor defender and has to be hidden by putting him on a weak offensive player. Irving did not guard CP3 in Cavs-Clippers matchups.

      More to the point, there is NO PG on Houston. Everyone is a PG -- Harden, Bev, Parsons, Lin. I certainly agree that the team does better when Lin handles the ball more. The problem is that there really is no PG position in Houston's offense. Anyone can bring the up, and all those 'PGs' do.

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    17. teams with no PG: Indiana, Dallas, Utah. how much these team have to give up to get Lin?

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    18. Cara said "Are these so called Lin fans the biggest overreaction group in the world?
      Beverley started with Lin and performed well in one game. Big deal. The Rockets still lost as well.
      Is David Lee also done in GSW and as a PF because his team performed better and managed to win a game without him?"

      I totally agree people are overreacting.

      Tonight's game is perhaps troubling to those fans that seriously think Bev is better than Lin and feel threatened by Bev. It's pure silliness.

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    19. i guess it's an overreaction due to the facts that we already knew before the playoffs began, Lin's role would be marginalize and McHale would trust Beverly more. it's proven and we're still overreacting. gotcha!

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    20. 777am,

      I think Dallas and all other big markets (the teams with their own dedicated ESPN pages) don't want Lin, because they can always get a current top 20 players. I believe a small or medium market team located away from certain region is best for Lin.

      Teams I like are:

      Warm area: **Orlando**, Phoenix (McSorey, get him back)
      Cold area: ****Utah****, Pacers.

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  26. We played small aand everyone had to grab more rebounds as evident that Harden got 11 and even Lin got 4 only play half time, still gotta give BEV credit he play his heart out when given the minutes, although I think his defense on WB is clear that he has trouble keep him in front of him and as bad as WB shoot the ball, he still almost had 30 pts. I think BEV overall play very well but I would not say he has won the starting job just yet. But Im every frustrated watching BEV gets to play PG a lot in this game and Lin does not get the same treatment. I mean quite a few HOF commentators last year called Lin has potentital to be like Nash in term of his playing ability. SO I still don't get that in the offense.

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  27. there was blood flowing during the first half so he was able to play but once he stopped that's when the pain sets in.

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  28. Fellas, this game was over. The Rockets could not guard them man to man. Houston goes zone. OKC attacks it poorly AND doesn't hit shots. Beverly was decent -- but remember, this game was OVER without the move to zone. Harden, abominable Harden, is just so awful on defense. I'll bet Lins chest contusion was sustained when he took that charge -- called a block. Check out the film, Harden just lets testy-westy blow by him. How many times does Harden rushes the dribbler or just simply get out of his way in defensive transition. I counted at least 4 times tonight minimum. Lost by 3 -- there's the game.

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    1. "I'll bet Lins chest contusion was sustained when he took that charge"

      As mentioned by another poster, the injury did not happen on a possession with a foul call. Lin fell to the ground on a off-ball play that got neither a charge nor a block call.

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    2. It doesn't matter... Hardens defense sucks. And the Rockets comeback had nothing to do with Beverly... it was the zone and OKC inability to attack it correctly and settle for some lousy shots.

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  29. new thread on negative X-rays

    Let's be thankful Lin is not seriously injured

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  30. Thought you guys might like this.

    Dirty Kendrick Perkins offensive foul, game 2.

    http://www.sbnation.com/2013/4/24/4263590/kendrick-perkins-gets-away-with-offensive-foul-on-crucial-thunder

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    1. Perkins has no offensive game, he's worse than Asik. So he uses dirty plays to justify his minutes.

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    2. That's just not fair. Parkins grabbed Parsons's wrist with two hands and released him, just enough time to let Durant hit the uncontested 3.

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