Excellent video. Looks like something from the Linsanity documentary? Really shows that his character off the court and in the game are one in the same.
QA WITH JEREMY LIN c/o Jason Friedman
thanks for the link, good article.
Nice read, thanks.
So he grades himself a C. I guess that's good in the sense that he believes he can play EVEN better. Like the self confidence. I also like how he says he is a better player in the second half and the 4th quarter... And the stat that Jason provided was sick.Lastly, I like his tone.. Sounds really like someone who grew up this year and feels ready to take on more.What's the deal with all this Lin publicity this week? His nba life video, detailed q&a, national game tomorrow and 60 min. All coinciding with his stellar play the last three games. Is something crazy about to happen?
Lin gets a lot of press... the world adores him.
Marketing of the NBA... do they want to sell playoff tickets? Is it time for people to renew the League Pass?
"What's the deal with all this Lin publicity this week? Is something crazy about to happen?"Rockets are hyping him up to trade him after the season. Just kidding, ha ha.
The Rox are sooo lucky they have Lin. Harden would never give the positive publicity Lin gives them, not to mention $$$$.And the Rox fans should thank all the Lin fans for coming thru and voting the Rox game in for nba tv fan night. No way they would get in without them. Freaking ingrate @$)(!'!!!
Volvo and Nike said Thank you Jeremy..
lol, Jeremy's piano skills were way better than I was expecting! I can hear the Asian parents showing their the kids the video, "See, you can be an NBA star, go to Harvard, AND play piano."
I'm a pro musician and Jeremy Lin plays the piano way better than I ever could.
come on, Khuang :)That's only true if Lin plays piano while dribbling a ball.But kudos to Jeremy for still wanting to learn new things.He probably wants to write a ballad for Coach McHale!"Linmagine", "Unchained Remedy", "Linning is Sharing", "Coach on a Couch"?What would be good ballads to write about this season?
@psalm - Lin on Me?
No really psalm234, I'm serious. I've tried piano. Can't do it. Never had the talent for it, never will. My brain doesn't work that way. I'm a pro guitarist. I can even play Pachelbel's Canon by two hand tapping. I can improvise on jazz standards with steady rhythm in chord melody. And yet piano is UTTERLY BEYOND ME. As talented as I am on guitar, I'm UNTALENTED on piano. Jeremy Lin can play circles around me on piano!
@psalm,Another song title for Jeremy: Linching by Benching.
good one, @IsabeliJane. Actually, you're due to record that song for Mr. Lin :)wow, really KHuang. I thought if you're talented in one instrument, the other will follow. I'm low in talent in playing instruments so I don't know any better. lol
There is some instrument crossover, but not as much as people think. I know a guy who plays every wind instrument and piano. Yet he won't touch the violin and is rudimentary on guitar.Similarly, I have never been truly able to dribble with my left hand. It's all I do, and I just can't really get the hang of it. I'll bet that Jeremy Lin would struggle on guitar and especially violin.
On the sheet music does it say "Can You Feel the Love Tonight?" Jeremy sure does love Lion King. :)
Jlin is a Leo after all..born in August if I'm not mistaken..
He's a Virgo. One day away from a Leo, and exactly one day near to be a Virgo. In between!
@Lydia - when I read fun stuff like personality traits on people born on a certain Zodiac, it is written that Leos are natural-born leaders and Virgos are analytical, thinkers, and doers.
Some parallel videos -Jeremy Lin Episode 1 : A Day in the Life http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLzrLXQIbwMJeremy Lin Episode 2 - The Offseasonhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hc7Rdl0TeHo
He makes great vids. He's a natural on cam. :)
You - You got what I need - but you say hes just a friend - but you say hes just a friend - oh baby you...
ok which Lin situation related with that song? he got a girl? lol
@willy - yeah why is that song related to Jeremy *slowly my blood is starting to boil at the thought of a Jeremy girl * lol
@bmzll and Isabeli:The melody starting at 4:50 -> kind of reminded me of Biz Markies "just a friend". Im not sure if its the same thing. Could be one of these melodies thats been altered just enough so people dont have to pay fees when they use it commercially.
@willy - ok! *breathes a sigh of relief* lol
@Isabeli:If you want him -> make your move before somebody else does :)
Isn't he dating Arden cho?
??? Seriously ???
"Isn't he dating Arden cho?"uh, no.
Ardent Cho only dates White guys, every Asian person knows that.
Ahh the video was a nice reminder, the 19 points game then we all know what happened next after that game.
Jeremy is going to be on 60 minutes on CBS this Sunday http://www.khou.com/sports/Jeremy-Lin-to-talk-racial-barrier-on-60-Minutes-201626661.html
Does anyone know when this interview was done? Was it recently or in the beginning of the season (when woj article came out) or the summer when he went to Taiwan with David lee.
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VIDEO PREVIEW - 60 MINUTES PRODUCER PETE RADOVICH
in case of interest to some:from Beyond the BuzzerForbes Top 10 Overpaid NBA Players: 1. Carmelo Anthony (New York Knicks) – $19.4 million2. Ben Gordon (Charlotte Bobcats) – $12.4 million3. Joe Johnson (Brooklyn Nets) – $19.75 million4. Hedo Turkoglu (Orlando Magic) – $11.8 million5. Dirk Nowitzki (Dallas Mavericks) – $20.9 million6. Corey Maggette (Detroit Pistons) – $10.9 million7. Rudy Gay (Toronto Raptors) – $16.5 million8. Stephen Jackson (San Antonio Spurs) – $10.1 million9. Chris Kaman (Dallas Mavericks) – $8 million10. Arron Afflalo (Orlando Magic) – $7.8 millionmakes me wonder if this list will include Jeremy in his 3rd year.
I predict here: In his 3rd year, every team's GM will try to figure out another poison pill contract to steal Jeremy Lin again. haha. Maybe on that time, a Max Contract will do it.
Richard Jefferson should be included - 10 millions
Alan: Jeremy is not a restricted free agent like he was in NY so there won't be a similar poison pill contract situation this time. In his 3rd year he will either be a Rocket or be traded by the Rockets.
Dave: Thanks for point that out. No matter what, I mean he should earn a max contract his 4th years. hehe.
Amar'e Stoudemire (New York Knicks) – $19.95 million
Inactive due to injury for most of this season - may be considered overpaid?
DEN and SAS"The Gallinari injury combined with Ty Lawson being out with a torn plantar facia in his heel make the Nuggets much more vulnerable in the playoffs." Sorry Spotless.http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/04/05/report-nuggets-gallinari-has-acl-tear-done-for-season/related/"Popovich said Parker "just couldn't go," and Popovich thinks it's tendinitis, but he's not sure."http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nba/780/tony-parker
A few more key injuries, and we just might see Rockets vs. Knicks in the finals.
Gallo .... :'( .... Bye Bye europei ...Thinking about what jeremy has been thru this year, well, poor Gallinari... He definitely will have trouble next season. Hopefully he will learn to work and train much harder ....
HOU"Chandler Parsons scratched, Garcia will start""Chandler Parsons (calf) will not play in Friday's game against the Blazers."POR"LaMarcus Aldridge (ankle) will play in Friday's game against the Rockets.""Nicolas Batum (shoulder) will not play Friday and there is no timetable for his return"http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nba/206136/chandler-parsons-scratched-garcia-will-start
Jeremy Lin & Rockets Reactions on James Harden's BobbleHead
The ONLY silver lining to McHale misuse of Lin is his HEALTH. So many top players, especially PGs, are going down with injuries heading into the playoffs. Meanwhile, Jeremy is looking stronger and healthier than ever. If he's allowed to play his game even half the time and play most of the fourth quarter...we could see a very special Linsanity-induced playoff run.
Did you touch wood before you said that?
"Touching wood" has a very different connotation from "Knocking on wood" ;)
If you're going to play the race card game, then let's be honest -- if Beverley was Asian and Lin wasn't, either Beverley would be starting or a large group of people would be calling for the heads of the "idiots" McHale/Sampson/Morey/Alexander for keeping him on the bench. You'd also be saying that race was a factor as to why Beverleysanity was overlooked by the NBA and forced to play in Russia. That's just reality.Who's better really doesn't matter... they are different players. Truth is, there hasn't been much of a dropoff when turning to Beverley, which is why it's not a shock when McHale plays the hot hand and sticks with Bev on nights where he's contributing and Lin isn't (the only thing that doesn't make much sense is the reaction of some fans to it). Jeremy has good upside and may prove to be the much better player, that just hasn't been the case overall this year.- CLUTCH on CFansGreat insight into his genuine opinion. This is the same guy pretending to be objective and unprejudiced. Fails to see how 2 other Asian NBA stars went largely unnoticed, and that JLin went unnoticed until Linsanity. Completely downplays his skill just like every other blind and bigoted dunce.
Really serves as the final confirmation that we didn't need to once and for all shut down any doubt as to whether Clutch is an arrogant racist. This is the worst kind of down-played-in-society racist. The kind that manifests as dismissiveness of problems they're not familiar with; the kind that criticizes others for fighting for equality. Commodore is doing a great job at making it even worse.
It's no secret Clutch has hated Lin since Rockets acquired him. He allowed the "Jeremy Lin is a JOKE" thread and never moderated it. Not a surprise he's now claiming Lin and Beverley are interchangeable.
who cares about CF? It's forum of single-minded folks.bottom line: Lin 44.2 fg% playing against starters, Beverley 39.7 fg% playing against mix of backups/starters.
Thank you for being a fan of Clutchfans. Keeping us informed about Clutchfans spares a few mouaeclicks for people like me who aren't followers of Clutchfans.
at JL and other hardcore followers of Clutchfans.
@real-dsb - I care because I begrudge common-day discrimination, especially if it's being poorly disguised as objective, and if its originator rides on his high horse, suffering from an ego trip, thinking of himself as an objective voice of reason. Clutch has been downplaying every little thing JLin's contributed to the Rockets, diminishing his fans - who have only been vocal to shut down LOHs - and persistently tried to point out any mistakes made by Lin as well as praise any rare truly Clutch moments from Patrick Beverly. This guy is an ass-kissing, deluded, status-quo supporting bigot who runs a site full of Texan bigots. This should suffice to rile anyone up.
I honestly think Clutch feels threatened from all the new LOFs who swarmed that forum! lol Imagine if he were posting here on JeremyLin.netOn the other hand, people on RealGm especially Knicks fans definitely try to slander Lin. Same topic came up about Lin trying to play the race card in the 60 minutes video.http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1242986
Bao Phi also talked about how he thinks some people feel threatened from an Asian player gaining rise and recognition. I think it's a very good point and to me, Lin is just trying to address the double-standards, yet people try to down play it for whatever reasons.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqyxbH5KK2g
This is literally the most real and genuine opinion on the state of discrimination and racially motivated decisions that Bigot Clutch has ever expressed. Hopefully everyone has a better understanding of how dismissive, quick-to-judge, and small-minded some Caucasians can be.
@Willydilly! lol. The day ESPN analysts like Stephen A Smith and Rob Parker (who was let go after he slandered a RGIII), and Mayweather can just give Lin credit for being a good player and happy for him, without having to always defend Black athletes, might very well be the END OF THE WORLD!
Commodore on CFans (long time poster, pre-2000) also shared some really insightful thoughts (summary):1) People who are discriminated against, and who suffer from unfair standards should suck it up, try harder, and never ever speak out against this kind of negativity in any way2) When the aforementioned victims of prejudice and unfair standards do speak out or try to shed light on the injustice, they are being weak and unsightlyClutchFans...
Let's not forget it is the HOUSTON Rockets. Which mans 99% of their fans are Texans.Texas is by far the most racist and backwards state in the entire country. Why would you expect anything less from the average Rocket fan?
@Willydilly - yeah! some longtime posters on CFans really surprise me when they call out their peers! There's a large group of them who are actually objective. It just happens to be that the founder/admin of the site is an unjustifiably egotistic douche.
@JK:And people disagree with him as well. They voice their opinions -> they out themselves.
@zxcvb- probably true, but let's not err in the same way as them and make these sweeping generalizations, even if all elections polls/legislative history confirm the case.
@zxcvb:There are worse places :)
While there are definitely haters out there who hate on Lin because he's Asian, most people like Lin. Oh, I don't know, he was on the cover of magazine after magazine during Linsanity. He was constantly on ESPN, etc. Even right now, beyond Linsanity, he's getting tons of good press. The racism card can be exaggerated sometimes.Did I mention the amount of money he's getting payed in his contract?
@ Bamboo Forest. Although that's a fair point about the positive portrayals of Lin, you can't deny the fact that even when Lin was getting that attention, there were still people trying to make racial jokes about him and downplay the importance of his rise. Jason Whitlock even pointed out the double-standards on his radio show, especially after he apologized with the racial joke.Saturday Night Live pointed this too. The racism card seems exaggerated because Society in the U.S. continuously hears it about Blacks and people continue to lose their jobs when it comes to that.But if were were to really look at discrimination and how it exists into's modern society, we can look at how it affects schools and being "Asian" now can be detrimental."Asians are the new Jews"http://chronicle.com/article/article-content/131729/"Florida passes race-based academic goals". Asians are expected to score the highest, with Blacks scoring the lowest.http://www.educationnews.org/education-policy-and-politics/floridas-race-based-academic-goals-bring-controversy/
I'm not generalizing all Texans of course. But it's a simple fact that racism is much more heavily ingrained in Southern culture (for obvious reasons) and Texas is the biggest offender. And I refuse to stand here and play apologist for my fellow Americans. Some people are just racists jerks, and they should be called out as such.
@Bamboo Forest - I don't understand what your comment contributed. Yes, Lin has a contract. Yes, Lin has a fan base of Asians and non-Asians which boosts magazine sales/endorsements. Because these two facts are true, when we see people clearly express racist thoughts/opinions, that makes them unracist? To call out these facts is an exaggeration?Can you point out what was exaggerated in my reference? If not, why tarnish a chain by asserting that racism card can be exaggerated. Why not wait until there's a comment that exaggerates it and then throw in that statement?
Pinoy, my point stands. I was referring to most people. There are idiots everywhere and there will always be idiots. And this is as true for other countries, as it is for the United States. Yes, the race card can be exaggerated. This is my belief. You can have yours.
Pinoy is right. Getting "media attention" or a big contract doesn't mean that racial prejudice is exaggerated. Or that people are seeing past his race and judging him only as a player and person. It just means he's a cash cow who attracts attention. Obviously, things aren't as bad as they were in the 60s or whatnot, but there's a very very long way to go and Jeremy still faces an incredible amount of racial prejudice -- casual, insidious or overt.
JK, now you're clearly putting words in my mouth, and that's just plain bogus.I said the race card can be exaggerated not that you shouldn't call out people for being racist when they are. I was referring to how claims of racism can be exaggerated. I was not, however, referring to anything specific. Really, don't put words in my mouth, please. Obviously if someone says something racist, nothing is going to make it unracist, assuming it was clearly racist to begin with. And just because you don't understand what my comment contributed, so what? Do I have to fulfill some kind of criteria according to your standards? It was just a comment. Wow.There are idiots everywhere. There are racists everywhere. They should be called. out. But I don't think that the world is against Lin or that he's being treated unfairly. By some people, yes. But overall I don't see it. And I also believe that some players are treated unfairly even when race has nothing to do with it. You can't always assume racism when someone downplays Lin's ability or when they downplay any other player's abilities likewise.When people on this forum say Parson's isn't that good... I think they are being biased, but not racist. Now, to prevent anyone from putting words in my mouth: I know many people here give Parson's a lot of credit. I'm referring to those that don't. I hope that was clear enough.And again to prevent people from putting words in my mouth: I never claimed anyone here said the world is against Lin. I'm just expressing my opinion that I don't think the world is against Lin.
The idiotic Hardleasty is ignoring one fact: Lin was SIGNED and is being PAID as a *starter*.Furthermore, Hardleasty itself even admitted a *DROPOFF* in production with Beverley - however much dropoff he thinks (per him: ".... there hasn't been much of a DROPOFF when turning to Beverley").Therefore, what other coach in the NBA repeatedly benches a starter who plays better than the backup ???? Only McHell (and his boss, Sorey)! And it's probably more politically motivated, rather than for racial reason for those two.
U guys react like hardisty is a distinguished member of the media. His claim to fame is being an Internet forum moderator. He is really a nobody with his own flawed view point. I just can't stand people treating his opinion like his matters more than other trolls on that site. Once Lin is gone, his site will be irrelevant yet once again.
@Bamboo - "And just because you don't understand what my comment contributed, so what? Do I have to fulfill some kind of criteria according to your standards? It was just a comment. Wow."It's because I didn't understand that I clarified. Just in case this was never made clear to you, I'll explain the concept of what an insinuation is:I started a post about a clearly racially motivated comment from Clutch and a long time Clutch fans poster.Various others agreed. You joined in with a comment around the upside of Lin's situation, and the good press he get's and end off with "The racism card can be exaggerated sometimes." as well as a snarky comment on how much he gets paid. The low-hanging fruit of inferences to be drawn there is that you're trying to downplay what the rest of us were discussing. The insinuation there is that it seems like you're trying to say we're being sensitive and exaggerating the situation. You also state that I put words in your mouth, which you happened to do as well in your response - "But I don't think that the world is against Lin or that he's being treated unfairly." I never really said that the world is against Lin, but for you to throw that in a retort makes it seem like I did. It's funny how you're always the strongest voice in any conversation when it comes to supporting the Rox organization, when it comes to refuting the notion that Lin faces adversity and unfair standards, yet you always proclaim yourself as an avid Lin fan. I honestly haven't seen you go in nearly as much detail about why you like Lin as you have about why everyone who sympathizes with Lin is wrong. Please provide examples in past threads to prove this observation wrong.
@Bamboo - now, if your genuine opinion is that Clutch isn't being a bigoted a-hole in his statement, please be open about it and just say that. If you agree with the rest of us that Clutch's comment was prejudiced, and motivated out of bias and dismissive bigotry, and that it demonstrates what we've all been claiming all year, then why bother talking about how much racism can be exaggerated?
@Solidz75 - I react to Clutch's comments for the same reason why I respond to Bamboo Forest's: I can't stand people who claim to be what they aren't.
On another note, the piss-poor-excuse of a being is now trying his best to backtrack past his original quote. He's now trying to come off as if he didn't diminish Lin's ability with his comment about if PB was Asian, he'd have all the Asian fans' support.
I have complained many times about Lin getting benched in the 4th. Many times. I'm not going to try to convince you of anything JK. You can believe/assume whatever you like. And I'm pretty sure that no matter what I say, it won't sway your opinion.You can't stand people who claim to be what they aren't? Well, I'm certainly glad that you're not qualified to be the arbiter to determine that which I am and am not.
I don't know anything about Clutch except I visited it once or twice for a minute or so. So my not answering your question regarding Clutch isn't, by any stretch, an indication of what I feel about them or anyone's personal comment. I don't know about them and don't waste my time over there. Indeed, with everything I said prior, I never mentioned Clutch a single time.
I can't stick around with this thread right now so if I don't respond to further comments, it's not because I agree or disagree with anything. Best.
Don't forget that he went on a Texan radio show saying that he thinks Bev is playing better than Lin and deserves his minutes. Now, he says there is not much dropoff when Bev replaces Lin. The guy is a straight up idiot. Is that worse than him being a bigot? Dunno, but he's just a loser with a soapbox.
It's so LINTERTAINING for people from this site to be going to Clutchfans eagerly looking for signs of racism - and then listening to them cry about it here. WAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!
KHuang, if your point is that sometimes people seek out bigoted remarks to get a high out of a stoked indignation, to produce a self-fulfilling circle of rage and self-pity, then I can see what you'd call it whining. There is a sick kind of pleasure principle in it.Yet, at the same time, you often don't have to look very far to see such remarks. They're just there. I'm not even talking about hardisty. The internet is a window into what people think but will not say to your face because of political correctness. What is disturbing is not the bigoted remarks I can actually see; it's rather that so much of it is often left unsaid.Racism is not embodied in the quotable bigot remark but rather in something much more dubious and vague -- the experience of wondering whether one is over-interpreting.
Ironically, while "Clutch" accuses others of being biased, in fact his hatred of Lin's side-show biases his opinion of Lin. No other player with this little experience and this much upside, this much objective athleticism, and with this many important NBA records already set would be treated the way Lin has. It's not racism per se, it's a backlash against the side-show. It's overcompensation to appear unbiased. It's anti-hype signalling.As a fan of the Seattle Seahawks, I get to enjoy a message board, fieldgulls.com, whose managers are the cream of online NFL punditry. As a fan of the Rockets, I have to endure the leading fansite being run by the dregs of online NBA punditry. The disparity for me is painful.
I wonder how "Clutch" explains away the fact that Lin is averaging like 23 points a game and the Rockets are 2-2, when Harden is out?Lin's box score looks how it does because of Harden. Houston's win/loss record looks as good as it does because of Lin. And Harden and Asik.
Jk.. I'm not even gonna read half the posts here. And forget bamboo, he has an annoying habit of trying always to argue for the other side. However, there are tons of racist trolls on that site. I don't know why u give this particular loser "credibility" by singling out his post. He enjoys the fact that it pisses people off when he compares Lin to bev.. And he's milking it. He is probably proud of the fact that his view points have spread here.
Beverleysanity?ROTFLMFAO...Dude, just wait until Beverley can dominate a game vs the Lakers, OKC, or San Antonio, then I will read the rest of your post. Un(freaking)believable.
Lol JK don't waste your time with bamboo forest he/she/it lives in a glass bubble.I love how bf mentions how lin gets all this media attention as proof there is no bias against Lin. When a LARGE percentage bashes him with false information. I know I search cor lin articles about 30-60mins a day and find 1 out of 7 articles even relevant or useful.Lin is the only div ii poy not gotten a div 1 scholarship. Even a school as racially diverse as Stanford passed him by. Yet there is no racial bias. Even Kobe who gave lin the stare down acknowledges his skills by going on the record that heads would roll if he is in charge and talent like his gets passes by because no one just suddenly be omes this good...alluding that its bs what happened to lin and lin has probably been good for quite a while.And clutch is a bigot it doesn't take a genius to see that. Even SAS says Bev sucks. But he clings to this belief PB is better. Yeah take lin agains t 2nd stringers and you'll see opposing starters get no rest.BF is a mchale/harden fan just ignore. And of course just take anything clutch says as mindless rambling you'll feel better.
Now I had to go back and see what is going on with that thread. This joker really said the only reason Lin is starting over Beverly is because of his race. And then he tries to dig himself out of a grave. And I love how the other posters there treat him like a superior and apologizes for misunderstanding him. WTF? It looks like a lot of people have defended Lin well on the thread overall. The funniest thing is he points out his he is annoyed by the influx of Lin fans in his site, but he continues to post Lin interviews and lin relared highlights after every game. I think he is just a resentful jealous dude who epitomizes all the Lin nob believers and haters on that site.
Actually, Kobe gave Lin the stare down because he hates floppers and Lin flopped on that play.If you're spending 30 to 60 minutes a day looking for articles on Lin.... it tells me that maybe confirmation bias influences your perspective. But I could be wrong about that.I'm not saying there isn't a bias among some people. I'm saying that's not the overall tone and environment right now. People praise Lin and his ability. Magic Johnson comes to mind. Kobe comes to mind. Lebron James comes to mind. Skip Bayless comes to mind. Thing is, the overall environment praises Lin. Even the commentators are very praiseworthy regarding Lin's skills. People say Drexler doesn't give him adequate credit. No way. He constantly praises Lin just as the other commentators do. And by the way: Drexler is also highly critical of all players... he doesn't hesitate to say something when a player makes a mistake. Also, when Lin's not shooting well and not performing up to his potential, don't expect articles you find to praise him: That wouldn't make sense.I know that Lin faced racism in high school and college via taunts etc..... but I don't feel that's the overall tone, environment, right now.Problem is, if you use people's opinions to justify racism, how can you substantiate this unless you get into someone's mind. If someone says that Jimmer Ferdette deserves to be benched because he can't play defense... That he deserves being benched after, for one example, scoring 14 points in 9 minutes and almost single handedly winning the game and then subsequently getting a string of DNP... If you say that's fair treatment of him, I will say you're not being reasonable. I'll say he's getting a raw deal. But I can't say that's racism.It's a bit amazing to me that people need to keep bringing me up. I'm not that important, seriously.
I also realize this is a Jeremy Lin fan site. And that my perspective doesn't always coincide with others here. If you want to call me out and say "Then why the hell do you come here," I will reply: It's called an addiction. However, addictions *can* be overcome.
Enjoyed reading everyone's comments but please stop bringing stuff over from that site. Theres a reason why some of us diont go there. The more clicks and members that place gets, the more validated the owner feels in his actions. If you want to read up on equally retarded but slightly less hateful HOU fans, try the dreamshake or realgm HOU. There's actual moderating there. The content's not bad either.Please stop bringing things over from that site.
Lol lin got knocked off his ass he did not flop on that play. I saw lin flop maybe 2 maybe 3 times all season, considering he gets his ass knocked around the rest of the time with cheapshots game in game out and says nothing, seroiusly even if he did flop on that play I wouldn't think twice about it.Right, there is no bias at all since highschool days from media or anyone. I'm sure he really was a CHINK in knicks armor. I'm sure the whole reason he became famous is totally because of his race like some famous boxer-idiot pointed out nevermind he blew records away day in day out during linsanity that smoked records set by NBA LEGENDS that would have made ANYONE famous. WHAT the eff are you talking about?No actions speak louder than words. I don't need to know what someone thinks. Once is an accident, twice is coincidence, 3rd time is enemy action. Mchale exceeded that long ago. Whether he does it based on race we don't know. But it is interesting he does nothing to dispell that fact nor does lin...and the fact that he praises all his starters yet finds it hard to say anything good about lin...that speaks volumes.There is that chance that he may not have a prejudice but I find it unlikely. He may even do it without realizing it. Or maybe he just hates pgs. But one thing is for sure he is taking lin for granted and is ad for his career.
Lin just needs to shut all these bigots up by continuing to improve and be the best player he can be. There will always be haters .. Even lebron had his share of haters who criticized his game in the beginning of hos career. However, once Lin becomes a more consistent player, people like hardisty and bamboo will be the first one to come out and say that he always knew Lin had potential.
If you call someone a chink: You. Are. Racist. But we're talking about him not getting the praise he deserves. That's what's being discussed, here. I think he gets plenty of praise. That's what I'm saying and that is what I backed up with what I said.Oh really? You think Mchale should say "I'm not racist." Whether he's racist or not, him denying that he's racist will make people think he's racist. That's just psychology. Mchale has praised Lin in the past more than once. I think Mchale is stubborn and doesn't like to be proved wrong. I actually think there is some validity to this. I don't know, but I do think it. That, though, doesn't equate to racism. And it will be very interesting to see how Mchale plays Lin from the point forward. Last few games he's been giving Lin proper respect.I agree with you that Mchale hasn't believed in Lin. I'm not trying to pretend that's not true. It's clear to me that Mchale hasn't had enough faith in Lin. However, Lin did get off to a very sketchy start... even though he was injured. He also has been inconsistent at times. Lin hasn't been perfect either: But I still feel that Mchale has had a lack of faith in Lin that isn't prudent. But I don't think Mchale is racist. There are things we can agree on.
Solidz75, exactly. All players have haters... it's not going to be different for Lin. And yes, I think some haters hate on Lin because he's Asian. But the point is that all players have haters and you can't assume that a hater is a racist. he or she very well could be, but it's not by default.
And regarding hating pg's... Mchale had some serious issues with another point guard didn't he? He has a history of this. I don't think he hates them though, I just think he is not good at managing them and their talents.
I think Bamboo is trying to tell you guys those people are just bunch of idiots rather than racists. right, Bamboo? right. They just purely idiots who think that "Chink in knicks armor" title sounds fun and smart. But luckily, the guy who wrote it is not that too stupid to realized the idiocy and apologized.
Lydia, if someone says that someone is a chink, they are clearly racists and also idiots. I'd say they are both. If someone says that Lin sucks at basketball, I'd say they are idiots but not necessarily racist. Though they certainly could be both.Regarding that guy who made the headline: "chink in knicks armor," I think he may not be racist. Meaning: He may just be very ignorant and foolish. He may be so out of touch with reality that he didn't think it was a big deal to say that and that it wouldn't be taken the wrong way and everyone would be ok with his "joke". That is a real possibility. Alternatively, he might be clearly racist. Now if someone says that if you make that headline you are by default racist, I'm OK with that because he used a racist term.But someone who says, "You are a chink," not trying to make a clever headline, etc..... that's 100% racist. But even then... if this person had brain damage and didn't know that calling someone a "chink" is racist... he would be brain damaged and not racist.I know I've said REALLY stupid things in my life and then looked back and realized how stupid what I said was. I don't recall ever saying anything racist though...... But I know that I have absolutely said things I wish I never did.
This forum has caused some serious, and dangerous procrastination from me. Bye.
I'm actually very surprised with Clutch's comment of "not much performance drop-off" that he still can't see how much better the offense flowed with Lin in the Magic game and how badly it deteriorated with Bev running the point in the 4Q.For someone who followed basketball for a long time, he can't see a simple thing like that. Even McHale realized that Lin played a major role by letting Lin run more point and be the player-coach on those plays on the sideline (even though he didn't say it publicly)How can someone be so blinded by prejudice and not see the basketball plays in front of their eyes? Now I want to go back to look at the Magic game stats to try to explain the big performance drop-off. Of course, fools will still say it's just one game!It's simply mind-boggling to me.
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He may be blinded by prejudice, or maybe he sees the conflict and realizes he'll get more traffic if he utters things such as this.
psalm234: "I'm actually very surprised with Clutch's comment of "not much performance drop-off" that he still can't see how much better the offense flowed with Lin in the Magic game and how badly it deteriorated with Bev running the point in the 4Q.For someone who followed basketball for a long time, he can't see a simple thing like that. "Are you really surprised? There have been countless 'observations' about Lin's mediocre skills from people who have watched the NBA for a long time, scouts included. Harsity is just one among many, it just stands out more because he gets attention as a board moderator. It's nothing new. You know that. The ironic thing is that the most biased observers are precisely the ones who declare they themselves to be unbiased, and diminish alternate viewpoints as 'fanatical' and race driven.
Bamboo, that could very well be intentional to get more Internet traffic. I don't know which one is worse, to be blinded by prejudice or to intentionally provoke for money. Perhaps the latter is worse. Occupati0, I'm surprised because there were no pros that a knowledgeable forum moderator should offer along with the cons. He seems to be genuinely disturbed by Lin fans that call for Lin to be featured as a PG. Perhaps this clouded his judgment. Or it could be the money thing.How can someone watch the Magic game and not see how badly ball movement got in the 4Q with Bev and the 2nd team? Even the announcers were screaming, "No ball movement!"
http://spacecityscoop.com/2013/03/11/nba-trade-rumors-will-jeremy-lin-and-omer-asik-be-traded-by-next-season/lin and asik trade rumor, interesting...
Possible trade destinations:Jazz, Mavs, Orlando, Sacramento, Detroit, Indiana (even Smart likes Lin now!).I think Jeremy would thrive on those teams. First four teams desperately need a point guard. Detroit has Calderon...but may not keep him. Indiana has a solid scoring PG in George Hill, but they need more of a playmaker like J-Lin (ironically, Hill would be ideal next to Harden in a glorified Derek Fisher role).
That guy just made it up. He thinks it sounds reasonable so he mentioned unnamed sources and if it hits, he looks like he knew something.Asik and Lin are already great. Lin is going to get better and better and Morey knows it. Morey would have to know that he was getting Chris Paul to give up Lin. Who else do you think he'd be willing to give up Lin for? Morey has seen Lin's production as the man. Can you imagine the risk of giving up Lin AGAIN and having him demonstrate superstar status? There are very few trades that will be worth that risk.Getting rid of McHale is a much lesser risk and would be far more amenable to Les.
Problem is they have two ball dominant guards.Lets assume mchale knows what he is doing. I'm theorizing here, could he feel that PB works out better than Lin along side Harden? One monkey wrench in this plan is that although bev is ok at on ball defense he does not have the quickness to provide any effective help defense that Lin pulls off day in day out. And with Harden so spectacularly bad on defense this puts mchale in a pickle: does he opt for wearing lin out day in day out or does he start pb hoping that pb plus harden is a better offensive option that can make up the defensive short comings of that pair? Another problem is bev is terribad at penetration and does not take pressure off Harden in any meaningful way...he is a streaky shooter and does not nearly have lins court vision.It would be interesting if Lin would come off the bench with some overlap with parsons. Dont hate me guys I'm just thinking out loud as this 2nd unit would out score starters day in day out. Asik would suck without lin. But this would surround lin with delfino and garcia. Throw in dmo or trob (assuming trob gets more experience) with smith down low this could be quite the 2nd unit.I don't know how would you guys solve the harden/lin dilemma where both needs to be ball dominant to be successful or you are possibly underutilizing either one, as a coach?
MT - Dwight Howard is that trade, assuming Howard wants to bolt out of LA. Kobe is so gawd awful to Howard, I can see Howard bolting even if he only has to put up with Kobe 1 more year.There is no chance in hell Howard is playing the next 3-6 years with Kobe. Howard just won't do it. So if Howard doesn't get hints that Kobe won't be resigned after next season, I can almost guarantee DHO walks from Lakertown this summer.Parsons/Lin/Asik/TRob or more likely TJones/filler for Howard/Blake/filler. It could happen...Kobe wants to play till he is 40 in LA. Kobe has complimented Parsons, and even Lin after Lin did the Linsanity on the Lakers. Asik looked like a bad version of Kwame Brown for most of the year, but the last 3-5 games, Asik looks like a freakin beast on offense. It just all makes too much sense. With Lin Parsons, KOBE will always remain the MAN. KOBE Is loved in Asia and so is Lin. Lin and Parsons will just be darn effective and get stats while Kobe keeps his shine and his lead dog role as Parsons and Lin cover for him on defense while playing speed ball under D'Antoni. And Asik for a big, has shown he can survive in a high pace system for a big...This is all a big "IF" assuming Howard doesn't stay. Mitch Kupchack constantly talks about Lin being a decent player. The Lakers organization from Kobe to Stu Lantz praises Parsons. Asik is that big lumbering effective oaf the Lakers need that they hoped Howard would be.And then when Kobe hangs it up, Lin Parsons will be 28-30...they can still shine till about 32-34...Then the Lakers trade Pau for Love...Lakers are reloaded. I wish the Lakers had the guts to trade DHO for those guys at the deadline. It would have been good for both teams.
I'm hearing that cp3 is annoying that hell out of Blake and Jordan, and all is not well in clipper land. So it's not unfathomable that the Rox get cp3, who is apparently Morey's favorite player.This make it open to Lin bring traded away. I think Morey will look to trade him as well. I just don't think neither lin ir harden will be as effective without having the ball in their hands. Now I don't know how cp3 will help harden but won't care about Rox once Lin is gone anyways.. It's gonna be an interesting summer.
Solidz, I'm pretty sure CP3 is going to NYK if he bails Clipperland. He is unrestricted so why would be want to go to Houston? It's been a badly kept secret for many years now he wants in on NYK. CP3 would be the perfect fit for NY. A slick, flashy, skillful ballhandler in the NY style. Hell, Carmelo will defer to CP3 without even knowing it!Lin, while great, didn't fit NY. People at the parks in NY emulate CP3's, not Lin if you get my drift.So the Clips will just put Bledsoe into the starting PG role. Now maybe a 3 way trade? Bledsoe to Houston, Lin to Clips, with Amare, Jordan, and others moving too? Maybe....Morey and Mchale seem to love the uber athletic black athlete at the PG spot and Bledsoe is the real deal compared to TD and Bev. I think Lin for Bledsoe would get Morey fired and he knows it...Lin would shine in Clippertown.
I think Lin would shine anywhere if he gets the "control" of the team as its franchise player. He only needs another solid big with him and unselfish players around him. But I agree. He would kill it as a clipper.
Lin only needs to be the lead guard. The star of the team can be the big man center or PF. As long as Lin is the lead guard, Lin will shine. He doesn't have to be THE guy, he just has to be THE guy as a guard..in my opinion..It's like Shaq and Kobe...Lin would defer to Shaq unlike Kobe as the team star...not comparing Lin to Kobe...
There is no one on the Jazz roster that Morey would give Lin and/or Asik for.Article says, "Then maybe they work a deal to move Lin to the Jazz, who need a point guard, for maybe someone like Al Jefferson."This is laughable heh. Jefferson's terrible defense offsets anything he gives on offense.Seeing two bad defenders -- Jefferson and Harden -- on the same starting roster would be hilarious. That would be entertaining by itself.
MTs post makes sense. Morey has seen how well Lin can play. If he sends Lin away and Lin turns from star into superstar - chances are Les is gonna be really really mad at Morey.Things havent been perfect for Lin but despite all the obstacles he has managed to earn his teammates respect. Most Rox fans like Lin. The team has a good record. If you watch last game you can see how McHale AND Lin coached the team together during timeout. Its speculative but its possible that a trade wont be necessary.
The 60 Minute Preview shows that even though Jeremy was Northern California Div II Player of the Year 2006, he didn't get any offer from Div I collesage. That got me wondered, in recent history, is Jeremy Lin the only Div II Player of the Year in a NoCal HS that didn't go to a Div I College?
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"Lin could survive better anywhere else as a point guard. And fans love to see him run points as a PG, not a flag pole at the corner every game to let others blame him not to score."I've been watching relays of Harden who hardly sweats while others are covered in a lather of sweat. That's because he doesn't defend his man, mainly he closes in on the rim when the shot goes up - to pad his rebounds stats. Or else he makes a futile run to his man shooting the 3. But his yell is more effort than his defense, which he turns into a run towards the opposing rim for an uncontested layup. Lately he flops to the floor after shooting so that he doesn't have to run back for defense.Parsons would not be half the man without Lin who sets up a lot of his shots. Similarly Asik has had a lot of practice trying to convert beautiful passes from Lin.Unfortunately I doubt if Rockets would trade Lin because the team's improvement has largely been the result of Lin's unselfish passing and setting up abilities. When Lin is on the bench the haphazard confusion/chaos/TO's that occur is proof of Lin's organisational skills.
Par for the course with all hard working minorities or underdogs in rarified successful teams.
It doesn't matter...Lin's contract is up in season 3 and they will trade him next summer if he doesn't resign, assuming they want him at all...Look, with the Lakers, heads will roll. Pau may get traded and Howard may want out. They aren't both staying...Jsmoove is an unrestricted free agent and moving.There's odd combos of JSmoove, K Love, Pau, DHo, and the Utah Bigs out there that all involve the Lakers, ATL, Utah, and Minn.Houston has a history of doing business with Minn and Lakers. It will continue...Lin/Asik & even golden boy Parsons very well could be moved this summer if it means the Rockets can get Howard in the summer.If DHo could be convinced to go to Houston, I'm sure the Lakers can get back Lin/Asik/Parsons/plus young PF/Delfino or Garcia...Not a bad haul for DHo.Future is BRIGHT for Lin
Believe it or not, of all star players, I believe Kobe on the tail of his career will mesh well with Lin. Just a gut feel. I think Kobe would accept Lin for on and off court reasons.I think we all believed Lin would explode and could play NBA ball on here before Linsanity ever happened, and I just get the same feeling about Lin going to the Lakers for whatever reason...
Did anyone see the close up of McHale picking his nose at the last game? Looks like he is better at picking boogers than substitution patterns, especially when it comes to Jeremy! Gross!
Did he flick it on Hayden's beard?!
Psalm and I saw McHale picking his nose and we commented it on the game thread. McHale's loathsome!
Ha ha. No wonder why Jeremy doesn't want to high five him during the game!
Come on guys! We all fart (yes - girls too) and we all pick our noses. Its just a matter of when and where :)
@willy,yes, we all do but just don't do it in public :)
Please check out the link http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=236536We can approve the CF owner Clutch who has an issue with Lin or LOH...
I am a Jeremy Lin fan, a proud Asian, lived in Houston for years awhile back. I love coming here to read the game time posts. I am however sooo over that I can't enjoy basketball commentary without reading the word hater, racist, Asian this Asian that in just about every thread on anything. What this thread on Jeremy Line game day has anything to do with race? The day we can talk about Jeremy lin game that day without mentioning race, hater etc will be a good indication of where we are as a society. There are Asian kids coming to this fan site to be inspired. We don't want to constantly remind them that they are being treated differently even though I know that is the truth in a lot of situation. If we gonna to talk about race and hate in NBA, create a thread for it. Otherwise, don't use the word hate lightly every where. Don't feel you are abided to call the haters out and give them more air time. It manifests itself and serve only the haters.
U can't create a thread here...
today's game is at 10:30pm ET (9:30 Houston time).by the time the game is over, it will be around 1am ET, then they have to fly to Denver for a back-to-back.which genius in NBA came up with such schedule?I'm sure NBA earns tons of money out of fans, ads, merchandise sales, etc., why can't they invest some money in using computer/technology to come up with a more humane schedule, no team should have any back-to-back.
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