What will it take to change the format of this site to a real forum? It's so annoying having to click "Load more" every single time. I don't have time for that.
After Mav's game yesterday, I am not interested in watching games any more for now, I guess I will just check everyone's comments here and watch highlight. Although I think Lin is in a good position to improve even more, use his limited time better, it is still depressing seeing him been benched for weird reasons. It is also difficult to watch his team mate's D. That was just terrible.
Let's hope next season will be a better season for Lin!
Yeah, it's hard to watch the games now, wondering at what time JLin will get benched and if he will return to the game. However, I endure it to support JLin. If the coach misuse JLin, I hope the fans keep on applying pressure to the Rockets front office. Facebook, twitter etc. Hopefully, something will stick. It also lets them know that JLin is still relevant to the fans.
As of yesterday, I only care about Lin, as opposed to I care about the Rockets because Lin plays there. Thus, after 62.75 games, I started to root against the Rockets and for their competition (Mavs, Lakers, Jazz, TBlazers, Worriors). Lin needs to get the heck out of Houston, UNLESS McHell gets fired really soon.
There is nothing left to give McHell-Damnpson or the Rockets organization any more benefit of the doubt regarding their strange and intense bias against Jeremy Lin for no good reason.
Obviously D-League doesn't translate up automatically to NBA, but interesting to compare thread on Clutchfans about whether Lin should be in game last 5 minutes of game, and this statistic from his stint with Reno Big Horns:
Patrick Beverley is a nice player, a player I like alot because of his toughness and pit bull mentality on court, but he isn't the potential game changer Lin is.
As for what Lin could potentially become (elite passer):
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/otl/news/story?id=5797316 (part of the reason Rubio has such great court vision is his handle is automatic and totally unconscious: http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/otl/news/story?id=5797316)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3_w0taTPYg (James should be able to teach Jeremy about change of pace and stutter steps, rather than Lin continuing to barrel ahead at 110% speed and effort all of the time)
http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/magazine/15-06/ff_mindgames (not saying that Lin will ever have the potential to be the Wayne Gretsky of basketball, but as he continues to learn more and more about NBA offenses and defenses, and continues to gain familiarity with how his teammates read floor when Lin is on the court, his court vision should continue to improve as he chunks larger and larger of data, discarding the noise, and only focusing in on the important)
I also view Eli Manning as the NFL equivalent of what Lin could become: clutch, elite level passer who not only can spot then deliver ball to proper teammate, but to do it at precisely the right so time that player catches ball in rhythm and seems to play better when Lin is feeding him (e. g. Novak during Linsanity)
"Think again. Of the metrics listed above, three stand out above all others. First, Jeremy Lin's defensive rating (DefRtg) of 93.2 and net rating (NetRtg) of 13.7 were the best in the entire NBA D-League. That means that while Lin was on the floor, his team gave up the fewest points per 100 possessions and outscored their opponents by the largest margin per 100 possessions."
And from the Gretsky article, remember that Lin was a 5 ft 3 "runt" in junior high basketball and that he learned basketball by just watching tapes of Lakers his father gave him (very little formal training or instruction):
Vint knows that the skill he calls "perceptual ability" develops, in part, to help a physical underdog against bigger, stronger players. If you can anticipate a throw, you don't need to be as fast. If you can intercept a pass by predicting its trajectory better than your opponent can, you don't need to be as big. Steve Nash, the point guard for the Phoenix Suns, famously never dunks but passes so brilliantly that he has been voted MVP two years in a row. Gretzky was always the runt of his team: small, slow, cursed by a soft shot, and so skinny one commentator cracked that "he could wear a fur coat on Halloween and go out disguised as a pipe cleaner." "Growing up, I was always the small guy," Gretzky has said. "I couldn't beat people with my strength. My eyes and my mind have to do most of the work."
Let's focus more on the positives of Jeremy's improvement to be more aggressive.
Reposting a post-game analysis that's worth discussing, particularly on Lin's improved play in the paint to: 1. attack with an effective floater in 1Q and 2. off-the-ball movement to cut to the basket with easy assist from Harden.
Despite the disastrous experimentation by McHale, I'm glad Jeremy continued to be aggressive to attack.
Another interesting thought of how McHale's mind (did not) worked.
BOOO, McHale!! It didn't work like it did in ORL win so he deserved the BOOS. McHale went with small lineup to try outrun and outscore the other team. McHale tried to play new guys with different lineup and failed.
Jeremy's assessment: - Solid game 12pts,3asts - DAL seriously game-planned for Jeremy by: ○ starting Mike James (bigger than Collison) ○ Aggressively trap him in PnR as the guard, not the big men ○ Picking up players "full-court" to apply pressure on Lin "If we slow down Jeremy, we will slow down Houston". It WORKED! - McHale countered with Bev but he lost. So he deserved the BOOO!!!
Lin's Individual plays: ○ Getting better in the paint with semi-jumper/semi-floater in 1Q ○ .. ○ In 3Q, two quick TOs on full-court passes and another one. Some struggle but not terrible ○ Good off-ball movement to cut to the basket for an easy layup off Harden's assist with 3 min left in 3Q
Summary: Jeremy's unfairly dissed by not playing the last 15 min. Same with Asik. No worries because he will come back.
There is one thing I liked in the recent games, Lin seems to cut w/o the ball more. It will be very useful, when he and his team realize when to cut or not.
McHale's biggest problem is not trusting Lin ("role player") as he did Harden ("star") to raise their plays in the 4Q.
Jeremy "Mr. 4th Quarter" Lin had one of the Top PER in 4Q last season. Even Coach Woodson knew to play him in 4Q even with poor shooting because Jeremy can get to the line and make big plays with 10 straight FTs to win in the Philly road game. Woodson > McHale.
Such is the power of faith in coaches in how they see their players. Jeremy is just a role player in HOU. It's McHale's loss, really!
Well I'm sure McHale learned his lesson and he won't make similar mistakes in the future. He will never bench Asik in the 4th quarter.
But Lin? Who are we kidding. McHale won't hesitate to take Lin out again in the 4th quarter of a close game.
I can't believe I'm making the same complaints I was making in the beginning if the season. Absolutely nothing has changed.
Kudos to u people who try to see the positivity in this. I don't see it. In fact it's getting more aggravating because Lin keep on proving to us that he is much more than what this moron thinks of him.
First it was offense, now defense.. Bev appears to be McHale's pg of choice ... Being the sadistic person I am, I will continue to watch these games. After all league pass isn't free.
The way I see it, it's McHale's loss really. Jeremy continues to improve and auditioned to impress other coaches (i.e. George Karl, Carlisle, etc.) who needs to game-plan against him.
If McHale doesn't play Lin and run down Harden to injury, he'll get fired. Simple really. It's a win-win :)
I just wish Jeremy plays in 4Q in Phoenix this Saturday so I won't waste my money on the tickets. Gortat is sidelined perhaps for the season so Lin can roam free in the paint!
Well good luck with that. It is going to be the tail end of a back to back and u know how those games have been for Jeremy.
But really aside from what McHake is doing, I definitely think that Lin ihas recently been playing more of his game so who knows, he may surprise u with another Linsanity experience.
Perhaps McHale will try another stab of benching Jeremy in 4Q in the GSW game in order to prove he can win w/o Jeremy or try a different lineup. Or HOU is up big time that he won't play many minutes.
We just never know what bunny McHale will pull from his hat.
As of yesterday, I only care about Lin, as opposed caring about the Rockets because Lin plays there (The Rockets are "my" additional team, NOT my usual team, which is primarily the Celtic). Thus, after 62.875 games (from 6 minutes to go in yesterday's game), I started to root against the Rockets and for their competition (Mavs, Lakers, Jazz, TBlazers, Worriors). Lin needs to get the heck out of Houston, which would be a step up over them firing McHell.
There is nothing left for me to give McHell-Damnpson or the Rockets organization any more benefit of the doubt regarding their strange and intense bias against Jeremy Lin for no good reason.
Trying to convince the authorities that "DrivingWhileBlack" phenomenon really is real is hard. Perceptions of motives can differ very much based on history and life experience.
I think the Rockets are over .500 despite Mchale and not because of him. He's getting way too much credit when in reality the credit should go to Alexander and Morey. It's amazing to me that this high-payed ex-HOF with supposed genius basketball minds can't see what we as casual fans see: Lin is a baller and a winner. Let him be himself.
And if Jeremy Lin only fan still feels down about the loss to the Mavericks yesterday, just go back into this website's archives, to say late January and February of last year, when Linsanity exploded onto the scene and read through some of those threads. Some of us old member members linked articles that were going all over web about Jeremy immediately after that Lakers game at MSG and Sunday afternoon victory against Dallas, where Jeremy helped lead charge to bring back team in second half, including clutch three pointers with 1) Dirk Nowitski guarding him, and then later, at a very critical point late in game, when 2) Shawn Marion was guarding him (he shot clutch 3 over him).
Palo Alto point guard Jeremy Lin isn't one of them.
Oh, the 6-foot-2, 180-pound senior had some impressive per-game stats this season: 15.1 points, 7.1 assists, 4.8 steals and 6.2 rebounds -- moderate compared to other all-Bay Area players.
Palo Alto coach Peter Diepenbrock holds up two fingers when listing Lin's priorities. "Making plays and winning games," he said.
Palo Alto won 32 of them this season (losing only one), including a 51-47 upset of nationally ranked Mater Dei for the CIF State Division II title at Arco Arena two weeks ago. Most of the victories were lopsided.
But Diepenbrock swears, in every jaw-grinding, lip-biting, palm-sweating situation, Lin made the pivotal play to win. "It was uncanny," Diepenbrock said. "You could bank on him every time." You think Diepenbrock's blowing smoke? He recalled every game-winner. -- Dec. 9 in Santa Cruz Dad's Tournament semifinals against St. Francis -- "We're down a bucket in the final minute of overtime. Jeremy hits a 25-footer. We win (57-55)." -- Dec. 21 in consolation title game of Mission Prep Classic against Bakersfield -- "We're down three with five seconds left. (Lin) catches in-bounds pass, penetrates, kicks and Steven Brown drills a 3-pointer at the buzzer. We win (80-74) in overtime and Jeremy has triple-double."
-- Dec. 29 in semifinals of St. Francis Tournament against San Ramon Valley -- "We're up two, their stud (Brandon Adams) gets the ball underneath in final seconds. Jeremy rips the ball out of his hands, gets fouled, hits free throw. We win (54-51)."
-- March 9, NorCal semifinals at home against Laguna Creek -- "We're tied with 50 seconds to go, (Lin) buries a 3-pointer from the wing. After a stop, he penetrates, feeds Brown who ices the win (52-46)."
-- March 11, NorCal finals against Mitty at Arco Arena -- down one with 24.1 seconds to play, Lin draws two defenders and finds Brad Lehman, who drills 3-pointer from the corner. Palo Alto 45, Mitty 43. "(Lin) makes it look easy."
-- March 17, State title game -- "We're up two in final 30 seconds. (Lin) decides to drive to the basket. He takes on their star (Taylor King), goes over him and makes a layup to ice it."
Was he just born with ice in his veins?
"I just really, really, really hate to lose," Lin said before adding another "really." Having an older brother (Joshua) who played and whom he idolized helped with the competitive edge. Playing basketball from an early age helped too.
"The kid makes every one around him way better," Mater Dei coach Gary McKnight said. "He was very impressive." Lin, though, was not so physically impressive when he entered Palo Alto. "I was only 5-3," Lin said. "Luckily I grew. Maybe I was meant to be a basketball player." Despite Lin's lack of height, Diepenbrock knew Lin was a special player before he arrived at Palo Alto. "He was a youth league legend," the coach said. He brought Lin up to varsity during the playoffs his freshman season.
"He nailed a key 3-pointer down the stretch of his first game," Diepenbrock said. "He never stopped making them."
With long arms and good jumping ability, Lin should make an impact at Harvard. "He's much more athletic than people think," Diepenbrock said. "He's not just your typical heady point guard."
This is the message that coach McFail is preaching to the bench players (And starters).
If you want to get more playing minutes: Always gamble on defense, leave your man to chase the ball, go for steals, act like you're a defensive "spark plug" when in fact you are giving up wide open shots.
McFail doesn't care about guys playing Team defense or Team offense. All he notices are bench players getting steals and blocks like Beverly and T-Rob were doing.
See how they get burned in the next game, trying to force turnovers on the Warriors when they just swing the ball to the open man.
When Mchale was asked whether he was excited to play in Taiwan and the Philippines, his answer was he was excited to play in the Philippines. As a Taiwanese American, I was kind of offended by his response. I took it as a slap in the face to Lin and his fans.
When you look close at Mchale's actions, you really can see that he doesn't think Lin should be a starting pg and playing starting minutes. He trusted Tony Douglas more than he trusted Lin. This was obvious from his actions since he played Tony at crunch time in the 4th. Tony was traded and now he trusts Patrick Beverly more. If they got rid of Patrick Beverly, I'm sure he would trust Aaron Brooks more. No matter what Point Guard was brought onto the team, Mchale would trust that point guard more than Lin.
When Jeremy plays well, Mchale never says anything positive post game until reporters bring up his name. On the other hand Mchale raves about TD and PB and now even TRob.
ah really? well people here are crazy about basketball,when I say crazy I meant CRAZY. everywhere you can see guys with LeBron,Kobe,CP3, D12 or P. Pierce jerseys, both counterfeit and genuine.people here are not much Jeremy fans and are calling to have Pacers - Heat game instead.anyway, even if its the Rockets-Pacers a lot are excited to see that, because its THE NBA, plus most are excited to see Harden.
though a Taiwanese colleague told me basketball is big there too.honestly if they weren't going to play here I would fly to Taipei just to see Jeremy play.I would be booing McEnergy REAL LOUD and send him some batteries if he benches Jeremy. I'm serious about that.
McEnergy probably felt the pressure of letting Jeremy play in Taiwan. sheesh, this "I thought.." coach is coming out as racist.
If JLIN does not play the 4thQ tomorrow, all fans of JLIN in arena should boo non-stop for from the 6 minute mark in... even that is being generous time-wise. This is a joke. Time for a BOO-IN.
I was one of the first to point out McHale's deficient coaching in the first 5 games. But having watched most of their games since its become obvious to me that Morey and Les are at the helm. I kind of feel bad for McHale. He's stuck between a rock and a hard place. He's not established enough as a coach to demand absolute control so he has to bend a lot to the will of the management.
Management wants up tempo... McHale delivers. Management wants Harden to be All star... McHale delivers.
Think about it people. Last thing Rox want is for Jeremy to explode as a star player. Look what happened to NY. Rox will not be able to match his price. So, the management deliberately tries to keep his numbers low. Play him less minutes. It's become painfully obvious. McHale takes the blame.
Harden has 8yr contract. Lin has 3 yrs. It's self destructive as an organization to allow Lin to shine until they have a longer contract to lock him in. They wanted to see if Lin is the real deal, and he has delivered. True, that Harden is a huge piece of the Rox pie but Lin is crucial in their quest to become champ caliber team. Mock my words, once Lind signs a longer contract w/ Rox, you will NOT see him marginalized like this.
At first I thought coaches didn't believe in Lin, but you have to be damn blind to think that Bev is better than Lin. They did the same thing to Douglas, and look where he's at now.
I find it amazing how management has deliberately built up Harden and Chandler with obscene minutes and they try to keep Asik and Lin's numbers down. Esp Lin because of his potential to become such a Huge international star.
Can't fault the Rox for this or McHale. I used to think that mgmnt gave free reign, but evidence suggests otherwise.
Got to disagree with this comment. You are not going to marginalize JLIN for three years to lock him into something else. Something IS going on here, but not that...
either LES wanted him as marketing piece and McSTATS/MCDICK working around him "complying"
or MOREY thought "stats" fit and McDICK disagrees and is going rogue.
I tend to think its more number 1 than number 2. I think McSTATS and McDICK on same page.
If this were true, Parsons would not be showcased as #2 star of the team. They would want to keep his stats and usage deflated so they can resign him to a low ball contract in the future as well. In essence, they would be giving Parsons the Lin treatment too...
In due course, if Parsons is used as trade bait or then sign and traded, then perhaps you were right. But if Parson's is resigned at a high cost to the Rockets and kept, then what you say makes absolutely no sense as to Lin.
damny, Why in the world would Lin sign a longer contract with the Rockets when he is used as a scrub currently? I will "mock your words" because it makes no sense (I know you meant Mark my words....)
What makes you think Lin will take 3 years of abusive treatment and then magically resign? He will be an unrestricted FA and he will bolt and choose a team that REALLY FINALLY wants to use him the right way and build the backcourt around him. I believe he will choose wisely and carefully this time around and he doesn't have to worry about this RFA crap next time around. He can choose to take less money and go where he actually really wants to go and where they flat out promise him a clear role no ifs ands or buts...
It's a nice sentiment to think that Les and Morey wants Lin so badly they are directly sabotaging his stats, all for the sake of keeping him long term. Nice but untrue...it's likely quite the opposite.
Haha... does the Rockets really think JLin will sign with them again after 3 years if he's continuously being treated like a role player during his time there? I really doubt no other team will make any offers for him.
Why are we looking for any excuse for the Rockets organization to treat JLin this way? Only semi-plausible excuse is to protect his health, if he's not 100% at the beginning of the season. But now, uh... nope. It is what it is. JLin gets paid to play 25 minutes and improve his game. Not an ideal situation for his development but not the worst. JLin will find a way to be successful.
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And 1s: It’s been three games since Jeremy Lin has played in the fourth quarter; a reality borne of his spectacular play Sunday against Dallas that helped put the game so far out of reach that his presence was not required in the final frame, Patrick Beverley’s outstanding fourth quarter performance against Orlando that proved instrumental to Houston’s victory there, and Kevin McHale’s search for a fourth quarter spark in the Dallas defeat that led to Beverley again manning the point for Houston in the final period as the Rockets rallied before ultimately falling short. When asked for his feelings on the matter, Lin hammered home the point he has made all season with both his actions and words: his competitive nature runs as hot as ever, but nothing matters more to him than does team success.
“Every player understands it’s just a matter of riding the hot hand,” Lin said. “For any athlete, it’s just a matter of not getting too high or not getting too low. I feel like, in the time that I’m out there, I’m playing my brand of basketball so I’m happy about that and whatever time I get I just have to keep playing the way I play. At this point, we’re making this playoff push and we’re really trying to get these wins, so whatever the coaches decide, it is what it is.
“It’s hard for any athlete to sit there when it’s winning time and it’s when it matters. But it’s not about individual egos right now. Obviously everyone wants to be out there. One through fifteen everyone wants to be out there. But that’s just not the way it works. It’s just buying into the team. And we really are a team and really do enjoy being around each other and that makes it easy to sacrifice for each other. For us, we’re all about trying to get that win.”
I see many parallels between this whole Jeremy Lin situation and the Tim Tebow situation. Both have breakout years that dominate the headlines in their respective sports. Then, they are traded to teams where the coach or coaches of their new team inexplicably mismanage their playing times; all while each player says the right things and do what is right for the team as a whole. Both are Christians and good guys. Something very bizarre is going on.
JLin is a team player. Rockets organization wanted him to comment to smooth things over for McHale. Not buying it, especially since McHale has not shown that he's a competent coach. Poor rotations, lack of adjustments, no plays, lack of accountability are all part of his resume by now. It's another story if it's a coach that had led a team to the finals or won the championship.
why keep asking Lin this kind of questions? It is NOT the first time. why not bench Harden or Parsons in 4Q several times and then ask them the same questions? i want to know if they are the team first guys too. rockets writers/FO think we Lin fans are stupid or what?
It already makes me frustrated seeing Jeremy benched in favor of a rookie (I thought KM does not trust rookies?), it pains me more that Jeremy has to (or was forced to?) come out to do some damage control for them.
Good response by Jeremy. He's upping the rhetoric without causing trouble.
I like that he didn't express any support of McHale (or even mention his name) while still saying that it's the team winning that matters -- which is also smart to reiterate because the Rockets LOST another close game with Jeremy on the bench during crunch time.
Jeremy has to keep intensifying this basic response every time McHale benches him. I'm sure Jeremy will play crunch time during the next few games -- McHale has to placate Les, Jeremy and the fans -- but this will keep happening until McHale is fired.
Well Jeremy is going to act like a pussy then so be it. What he's saying is an insult to all of us fans who are raging here on his behalf, as if he is a family member.
So if you are willing to accept the status quo and just take all this bullshit the coach is giving u, who am I to go crazy for him.
Sometimes Lin, u need to take a stand. Best wishes. I will still support you but not going to go crazy on your behalf.
That's exactly how I feel. Why should I keep supporting a guy that doesn't seem to want success badly for himself as much I want for him. He represents so much to so many people. Yeah, it's not fair to him. But it is what it is.
Well, do we really expect him to call out his coach? Not smart. McHale is still somewhat respected in the NBA as a HOF and it's JLin's first full season as a starter. Rockets paid him good money. Media will crucify him. It's easy for us to rage here on the internet, when it's not our career or future. I believe JLin is trying to make the best out of the situation and I hope things will work out for him eventually.
Rockets writers' tweets and articles make me want to barf. Especially when they're talking about CP's hair and how Japanese girls are screaming his name or whatever. Yuck. Jeremy's a gracious person. I can't say the same about the coaches or the Rockets organization.
This is what Cosby said about Jackie Robinson.. He is carrying all of our weight on our shoulders. If he fails, we fail.
That is what I felt about Lin.. Having followed every major sports in the us and never seen an Asian American excel, I thought Jeremy could be that transformative figure for us. Well it looks like he really doesn't want that responsibility. In fact, i think he'd rather give his life to ministry than to strive to become the best basketball player he can be.
It is quite disappointing to hear what he said. I actually feel for most of us, some of which who stay up to fight and support him- when he won't even fight for himself. He is telling us to back off and let him be.
Like i said, I will still root for him, but really let everything be.
I guess people become fans for different reasons. For me, I don't think JLin has any responsibility to anybody but himself to achieve his goals. I'm just a bystander, an observer on the outside. It's my choice to support him because I like seeing him play his game. He owes me nothing.
One other thing, JLin is a fighter. He will do it his own way by improving his game. Not going to be the first time or last time that he will have to prove doubters wrong.
No he doesn't owe us anything. You are right. No athletes do. In fact, I'm more mad at myself for having more fire than him about this situation. I think I gave him too much credit.
Really none of us should stop supporting him., but people should lay off our expectation of him and let him just play. That is what he wants.
For years, I've been unhappy with the basketball decisions made by NBA franchises. Too often I feel as if they get the wrong players based on things like looks and reputation instead of actual basketball performance.
If I could combine all my frustrations and build a single player who would the ultimate overlooked super talent, Lin would be the guy. When I see him play, I feel pride not for his race but pride because his career validates some of the complaints and solutions I have for improving the NBA game.
@Solidz75, Lin did say "it is what it is" "...and whatever time I get I just have to keep playing the way I play...." it's clearly out of his control no matter how hard he wants.
do you guys recall when woodson took over for dantoni and there was a period of time where lin was unsure of his role as the starting pg or baron davis. during a pre-practice or pre-game interview, woodson walked by, and lin directed the reporters to ask woodson whether he's still the starter, or something along those lines, and woodson said yes. i felt lin was kind of ruthless back then putting the coach on the spot. lin was also unafraid of yelling at melo and stat for not playing defense. but what happened to that fire and no fear attitude?
i think lin is still a fighter and doesn't want to be vocal because he's in a different position now. he doesn't just represent himself anymore but all of us and asians around the world. he represent his sponsors, volvo. his actions on/off the court will reflect poorly on his sponsors and people who revere him if he acts out against the coach whether it's justified or not. so lin is really setting a good example by being discipline and patient. his silence speaks louder than acting out in rebellion. while i want him to call out mchale, i don't think that's the best course of action being where lin is now.
if the rockets lose because of mchale's poor decision then its on mchale. if the rockets win, then lin will find a new home in a year or two. like lin said, he will continue to play his brand so i'll just let it be.
U guys can take those words as u see it. I actually would've preferred it if he kept silent and not answered those questions the way he did. So paca, he didn't really stay silent.
I think this is what Jeremy is.. But he does have feelings.. I remember Pablo Torres interview when he said after the Knicks dissed him he was sooo mad that he didn't want to talk to anyone for weeks.
I think he is just a kid who wants to make a living... Playing the sport he loves. Nothing wrong with that.
yeah, i think we fans should do whatever we can to bring attention that lin is being treated unfairly. we also want to be civilized about it and not go overboard because it may backfire on lin.
i was even thinking of going to a game, sit behind the bench, and throw some stuff at mchale and call him out. but that will probably make lin look bad.
But what what if he added something to the effect of (after the 1st paragraph). "I feel like I have a lot to offer to help this team make that playoff push and hope that I get more opportunities to contribute as we move ahead"
Yeah, I agree. We should go about it in a respectful and intelligent way. Don't want to come across as ignorant fans (ie: complaining about benching JLin in the 4th quarter in a blowout game).
oh, i meant silent as being politically correct, as in:
"Every player understands it’s just a matter of riding the hot hand."
"For any athlete, it’s just a matter of not getting too high or not getting too low”
" I feel like, in the time that I’m out there, I’m playing my brand of basketball so I’m happy about that and whatever time I get I just have to keep playing the way I play."
these things he said were like being silent already. lin could have voiced his displeasure in a different way but he kept it cool and nonchalant.
"But what what if he added something to the effect of (after the 1st paragraph). "I feel like I have a lot to offer to help this team make that playoff push and hope that I get more opportunities to contribute as we move ahead"
i don't think that's bad at all but that's implicitly calling out the coach. i was disappointed too that he didn't rip into mchale, but after thinking lin's obligations and his representation i took a different course.
Rockets writers' tweets and articles make me want to barf. Especially when they're talking about CP's hair and how Japanese girls are screaming his name or whatever. Yuck. ----------
You mean Rockets writers and East Asian women were mocking his hair also? muahahah
@Parsons has no hair part and still mad Lin is GQ, No, the writers are gay for Parsons. They were actually saying his new hair was cool and the ladies were going gaga over him. I just think CP himself and others overrate his hotness and his basketball ability. I don't dislike him, but I do dislike his selfish plays. Hope he starts to pass the ball to Jeremy more instead of trying to do everything by himself and cause ugly TOs.
I suggest Rox coaches should consider coming up with some excuses not to make the trips. Most likely, no..wait..I should say "definitely", they will not be welcome there.
hello, iam new here.A lin fan and an observer.lets see if theres any improvement in the next game.the coaches are coward enough to admit theres a lot of flaws in their coaching.
I'm expressing my opinion by asking a question which is light years away from policing anything... let's get real. Constantly reading male anatomy strikes me as not very pleasant. And I doubt the creates of this site are thrilled with it either but I can't speak for them. I can only guess.
That was a great game, because, IIRC, Dallas really locked down in third quarter and Knicks were falling behind.
Lin was big part of comeback and win.
I know he had big three over Novitski (he and Marion were arguing over who should have covered it), and then that big three over Marion with Marion locked in to stop him in fourth.
If you also want to see how Lin destroyed Collision during Linsanity, it was that Knicks vs. Indiana game where, IIRC, Lin was key in closing out game in fourth quarter.
JLin had 28 points, 14 assists. It was so exciting, especially starting the end of 3rd Q and 4Q. I have never get tired watching it repeatedly, especially when I am depressed by Lin being benched!
Forgot that Shawn Marion was assigned to guard him for the whole game.
Lakers game Lin wasn't scouted and Lakers were daring to shoot (which he did), but when Kobe started that one man comeback late in game, it was great watching Lin go mano a mano against Kobe (Lin only scored in low 20s till Kobe led charge, and then Lin had to match him).
Third and fourth quarter of that Knicks vs. Lakers game Lin really shined, because Dallas really seemed to lock down Knicks.
It's very clear that d'antoni was happy for JLin's success, yet it seems to be, McHale doesn't have any happy feeling towards Linsanity kind of success, he said something like 'he may have a movie made about himself.... but ...'. Human beings are just strange, it's very hard to change one's perception about another person. In his eyes, JLin may still be the same JLin got cut from Rockets. He is very hard to please, at least for JLin. Tough situation.
There is a poll on clutch asking who do u think is the leader of this team. Jeremy has 122 votes( 70+ %) with only 100 views. LOH's are going nuts. Lol love u guys.
With all the hatred that gets dished around this forum for a team (except Lin), its fans, and its coach, I'm happy to see yall suffer everytime Lin gets benched :D rofl hahahahaahhaaaaaa! looooooserrrrrrsssss *farts on ur face*
What will it take to change the format of this site to a real forum? It's so annoying having to click "Load more" every single time. I don't have time for that.
ReplyDeleteSure, annoying. But it only takes you few secs to click that "load more". you don't even have few secs?.
DeleteAny Internet savvy wanna make a more forum like site. It is really annoying to try to read and post with my phone.
Deletei don't know what happened to my web broswer, could't load when i click load more,so i won't be able to see above 200 comments.
DeleteIt is very hard to read this site.
DeleteIf the latest is on the top, that will make it much easier.
After Mav's game yesterday, I am not interested in watching games any more for now, I guess I will just check everyone's comments here and watch highlight. Although I think Lin is in a good position to improve even more, use his limited time better, it is still depressing seeing him been benched for weird reasons. It is also difficult to watch his team mate's D. That was just terrible.
ReplyDeleteLet's hope next season will be a better season for Lin!
Yeah, it's hard to watch the games now, wondering at what time JLin will get benched and if he will return to the game. However, I endure it to support JLin. If the coach misuse JLin, I hope the fans keep on applying pressure to the Rockets front office. Facebook, twitter etc. Hopefully, something will stick. It also lets them know that JLin is still relevant to the fans.
DeleteAs of yesterday, I only care about Lin, as opposed to I care about the Rockets because Lin plays there. Thus, after 62.75 games, I started to root against the Rockets and for their competition (Mavs, Lakers, Jazz, TBlazers, Worriors). Lin needs to get the heck out of Houston, UNLESS McHell gets fired really soon.
DeleteThere is nothing left to give McHell-Damnpson or the Rockets organization any more benefit of the doubt regarding their strange and intense bias against Jeremy Lin for no good reason.
Obviously D-League doesn't translate up automatically to NBA, but interesting to compare thread on Clutchfans about whether Lin should be in game last 5 minutes of game, and this statistic from his stint with Reno Big Horns:
ReplyDeletehttp://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=235086
http://www.nba.com/dleague/news/the_hidden_side_jeremy_lin_2012_02_15.html
Patrick Beverley is a nice player, a player I like alot because of his toughness and pit bull mentality on court, but he isn't the potential game changer Lin is.
As for what Lin could potentially become (elite passer):
Deletehttp://sports.espn.go.com/espn/otl/news/story?id=5797316 (part of the reason Rubio has such great court vision is his handle is automatic and totally unconscious: http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/otl/news/story?id=5797316)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3_w0taTPYg (James should be able to teach Jeremy about change of pace and stutter steps, rather than Lin continuing to barrel ahead at 110% speed and effort all of the time)
http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/magazine/15-06/ff_mindgames (not saying that Lin will ever have the potential to be the Wayne Gretsky of basketball, but as he continues to learn more and more about NBA offenses and defenses, and continues to gain familiarity with how his teammates read floor when Lin is on the court, his court vision should continue to improve as he chunks larger and larger of data, discarding the noise, and only focusing in on the important)
I also view Eli Manning as the NFL equivalent of what Lin could become: clutch, elite level passer who not only can spot then deliver ball to proper teammate, but to do it at precisely the right so time that player catches ball in rhythm and seems to play better when Lin is feeding him (e. g. Novak during Linsanity)
Go Jeremy, Go James, Go Rockets!
From the article about Lin in D-League above:
Delete"Think again. Of the metrics listed above, three stand out above all others. First, Jeremy Lin's defensive rating (DefRtg) of 93.2 and net rating (NetRtg) of 13.7 were the best in the entire NBA D-League. That means that while Lin was on the floor, his team gave up the fewest points per 100 possessions and outscored their opponents by the largest margin per 100 possessions."
Number one in entire D-League!
And from the Gretsky article, remember that Lin was a 5 ft 3 "runt" in junior high basketball and that he learned basketball by just watching tapes of Lakers his father gave him (very little formal training or instruction):
DeleteVint knows that the skill he calls "perceptual ability" develops, in part, to help a physical underdog against bigger, stronger players. If you can anticipate a throw, you don't need to be as fast. If you can intercept a pass by predicting its trajectory better than your opponent can, you don't need to be as big. Steve Nash, the point guard for the Phoenix Suns, famously never dunks but passes so brilliantly that he has been voted MVP two years in a row. Gretzky was always the runt of his team: small, slow, cursed by a soft shot, and so skinny one commentator cracked that "he could wear a fur coat on Halloween and go out disguised as a pipe cleaner."
"Growing up, I was always the small guy," Gretzky has said. "I couldn't beat people with my strength. My eyes and my mind have to do most of the work."
Let's focus more on the positives of Jeremy's improvement to be more aggressive.
ReplyDeleteReposting a post-game analysis that's worth discussing, particularly on Lin's improved play in the paint to:
1. attack with an effective floater in 1Q and
2. off-the-ball movement to cut to the basket with easy assist from Harden.
Despite the disastrous experimentation by McHale, I'm glad Jeremy continued to be aggressive to attack.
Another interesting thought of how McHale's mind (did not) worked.
Game #62 2012-13: Jeremy Lin & Houston Rockets Lose To Dallas Maverick
BOOO, McHale!! It didn't work like it did in ORL win so he deserved the BOOS.
McHale went with small lineup to try outrun and outscore the other team.
McHale tried to play new guys with different lineup and failed.
Jeremy's assessment:
- Solid game 12pts,3asts
- DAL seriously game-planned for Jeremy by:
○ starting Mike James (bigger than Collison)
○ Aggressively trap him in PnR as the guard, not the big men
○ Picking up players "full-court" to apply pressure on Lin
"If we slow down Jeremy, we will slow down Houston". It WORKED!
- McHale countered with Bev but he lost. So he deserved the BOOO!!!
Lin's Individual plays:
○ Getting better in the paint with semi-jumper/semi-floater in 1Q
○ ..
○ In 3Q, two quick TOs on full-court passes and another one. Some struggle but not terrible
○ Good off-ball movement to cut to the basket for an easy layup off Harden's assist with 3 min left in 3Q
Summary:
Jeremy's unfairly dissed by not playing the last 15 min. Same with Asik.
No worries because he will come back.
BOOOOO! Mchale!!!!!
DeleteThere is one thing I liked in the recent games, Lin seems to cut w/o the ball more. It will be very useful, when he and his team realize when to cut or not.
DeleteMcHale's biggest problem is not trusting Lin ("role player") as he did Harden ("star") to raise their plays in the 4Q.
DeleteJeremy "Mr. 4th Quarter" Lin had one of the Top PER in 4Q last season. Even Coach Woodson knew to play him in 4Q even with poor shooting because Jeremy can get to the line and make big plays with 10 straight FTs to win in the Philly road game. Woodson > McHale.
Such is the power of faith in coaches in how they see their players. Jeremy is just a role player in HOU. It's McHale's loss, really!
+1 I agree, Brent. More off-the-ball movement to cut to the basket so he'll be lethal even without handling the ball!
DeleteIf only he will learn to sometimes flap his arms ala TD just for shows :D #ENERGY#
Well I'm sure McHale learned his lesson and he won't make similar mistakes in the future. He will never bench Asik in the 4th quarter.
ReplyDeleteBut Lin? Who are we kidding. McHale won't hesitate to take Lin out again in the 4th quarter of a close game.
I can't believe I'm making the same complaints I was making in the beginning if the season. Absolutely nothing has changed.
Kudos to u people who try to see the positivity in this. I don't see it. In fact it's getting more aggravating because Lin keep on proving to us that he is much more than what this moron thinks of him.
First it was offense, now defense.. Bev appears to be McHale's pg of choice ... Being the sadistic person I am, I will continue to watch these games. After all league pass isn't free.
solidz, sadistic :D LOL
DeleteThe way I see it, it's McHale's loss really. Jeremy continues to improve and auditioned to impress other coaches (i.e. George Karl, Carlisle, etc.) who needs to game-plan against him.
If McHale doesn't play Lin and run down Harden to injury, he'll get fired. Simple really. It's a win-win :)
I just wish Jeremy plays in 4Q in Phoenix this Saturday so I won't waste my money on the tickets. Gortat is sidelined perhaps for the season so Lin can roam free in the paint!
Well good luck with that. It is going to be the tail end of a back to back and u know how those games have been for Jeremy.
DeleteBut really aside from what McHake is doing, I definitely think that Lin ihas recently been playing more of his game so who knows, he may surprise u with another Linsanity experience.
yeah, I know how it has been w/ B2B game.
DeletePerhaps McHale will try another stab of benching Jeremy in 4Q in the GSW game in order to prove he can win w/o Jeremy or try a different lineup. Or HOU is up big time that he won't play many minutes.
We just never know what bunny McHale will pull from his hat.
But you know that whatever McHale does, it will end up marginalizing him.
DeleteOf course, we know to expect nothing less from a role player in this "energy-feeling" system.
DeleteI will enjoy watching Curry and Jarett Jack destroy Beverly and his so-called "energy" defense after Lin gets benched for no apparent reason.
DeleteAs of yesterday, I only care about Lin, as opposed caring about the Rockets because Lin plays there (The Rockets are "my" additional team, NOT my usual team, which is primarily the Celtic). Thus, after 62.875 games (from 6 minutes to go in yesterday's game), I started to root against the Rockets and for their competition (Mavs, Lakers, Jazz, TBlazers, Worriors). Lin needs to get the heck out of Houston, which would be a step up over them firing McHell.
DeleteThere is nothing left for me to give McHell-Damnpson or the Rockets organization any more benefit of the doubt regarding their strange and intense bias against Jeremy Lin for no good reason.
Some of the posts here remind me of when TJ Holmes got pulled over.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/t-holmes-cnn-anchor-pulled-atlanta-tweets-driving-black-ain-joke-article-1.1125160
Trying to convince the authorities that "DrivingWhileBlack" phenomenon really is real is hard. Perceptions of motives can differ very much based on history and life experience.
I think the Rockets are over .500 despite Mchale and not because of him. He's getting way too much credit when in reality the credit should go to Alexander and Morey. It's amazing to me that this high-payed ex-HOF with supposed genius basketball minds can't see what we as casual fans see: Lin is a baller and a winner. Let him be himself.
ReplyDeleteMcHell as High School Coach
ReplyDeleteGolden State: Reminds me when it was Asian Heritage Night and McDrunk played Lin sparingly. Eff McDrunk!
ReplyDeleteYou think Lin would bring down the house (Golden State Warriors) if he fed T-Rob in transition like Jason Kidd did with the Nets:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3_w0taTPYg
(start at 3:35 mark)
And if Jeremy Lin only fan still feels down about the loss to the Mavericks yesterday, just go back into this website's archives, to say late January and February of last year, when Linsanity exploded onto the scene and read through some of those threads. Some of us old member members linked articles that were going all over web about Jeremy immediately after that Lakers game at MSG and Sunday afternoon victory against Dallas, where Jeremy helped lead charge to bring back team in second half, including clutch three pointers with 1) Dirk Nowitski guarding him, and then later, at a very critical point late in game, when 2) Shawn Marion was guarding him (he shot clutch 3 over him).
ReplyDeletee.g.
DeleteNumbers, numbers, numbers. Everyone loves numbers.
Palo Alto point guard Jeremy Lin isn't one of them.
Oh, the 6-foot-2, 180-pound senior had some impressive per-game stats this season: 15.1 points, 7.1 assists, 4.8 steals and 6.2 rebounds -- moderate compared to other all-Bay Area players.
Palo Alto coach Peter Diepenbrock holds up two fingers when listing Lin's priorities.
"Making plays and winning games," he said.
Palo Alto won 32 of them this season (losing only one), including a 51-47 upset of nationally ranked Mater Dei for the CIF State Division II title at Arco Arena two weeks ago. Most of the victories were lopsided.
But Diepenbrock swears, in every jaw-grinding, lip-biting, palm-sweating situation, Lin made the pivotal play to win.
"It was uncanny," Diepenbrock said. "You could bank on him every time."
You think Diepenbrock's blowing smoke? He recalled every game-winner.
-- Dec. 9 in Santa Cruz Dad's Tournament semifinals against St. Francis -- "We're down a bucket in the final minute of overtime. Jeremy hits a 25-footer. We win (57-55)."
-- Dec. 21 in consolation title game of Mission Prep Classic against Bakersfield -- "We're down three with five seconds left. (Lin) catches in-bounds pass, penetrates, kicks and Steven Brown drills a 3-pointer at the buzzer. We win (80-74) in overtime and Jeremy has triple-double."
-- Dec. 29 in semifinals of St. Francis Tournament against San Ramon Valley -- "We're up two, their stud (Brandon Adams) gets the ball underneath in final seconds. Jeremy rips the ball out of his hands, gets fouled, hits free throw. We win (54-51)."
-- March 9, NorCal semifinals at home against Laguna Creek -- "We're tied with 50 seconds to go, (Lin) buries a 3-pointer from the wing. After a stop, he penetrates, feeds Brown who ices the win (52-46)."
-- March 11, NorCal finals against Mitty at Arco Arena -- down one with 24.1 seconds to play, Lin draws two defenders and finds Brad Lehman, who drills 3-pointer from the corner. Palo Alto 45, Mitty 43. "(Lin) makes it look easy."
-- March 17, State title game -- "We're up two in final 30 seconds. (Lin) decides to drive to the basket. He takes on their star (Taylor King), goes over him and makes a layup to ice it."
Was he just born with ice in his veins?
"I just really, really, really hate to lose," Lin said before adding another "really."
Having an older brother (Joshua) who played and whom he idolized helped with the competitive edge. Playing basketball from an early age helped too.
"The kid makes every one around him way better," Mater Dei coach Gary McKnight said. "He was very impressive."
Lin, though, was not so physically impressive when he entered Palo Alto. "I was only 5-3," Lin said. "Luckily I grew. Maybe I was meant to be a basketball player."
Despite Lin's lack of height, Diepenbrock knew Lin was a special player before he arrived at Palo Alto. "He was a youth league legend," the coach said. He brought Lin up to varsity during the playoffs his freshman season.
"He nailed a key 3-pointer down the stretch of his first game," Diepenbrock said. "He never stopped making them."
With long arms and good jumping ability, Lin should make an impact at Harvard. "He's much more athletic than people think," Diepenbrock said. "He's not just your typical heady point guard."
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/preps/article/BOYS-PLAYER-OF-THE-YEAR-Jeremy-Lin-A-knack-for-2538272.php#ixzz2Mu4wtaHM
It doesn't matter lin play good or bad,he is not gonna be shine in this rockets team unless mchale leave.No other choice!
ReplyDeleteThis is the message that coach McFail is preaching to the bench players (And starters).
ReplyDeleteIf you want to get more playing minutes: Always gamble on defense, leave your man to chase the ball, go for steals, act like you're a defensive "spark plug" when in fact you are giving up wide open shots.
McFail doesn't care about guys playing Team defense or Team offense. All he notices are bench players getting steals and blocks like Beverly and T-Rob were doing.
See how they get burned in the next game, trying to force turnovers on the Warriors when they just swing the ball to the open man.
When Mchale was asked whether he was excited to play in Taiwan and the Philippines, his answer was he was excited to play in the Philippines. As a Taiwanese American, I was kind of offended by his response. I took it as a slap in the face to Lin and his fans.
ReplyDeleteWhen you look close at Mchale's actions, you really can see that he doesn't think Lin should be a starting pg and playing starting minutes. He trusted Tony Douglas more than he trusted Lin. This was obvious from his actions since he played Tony at crunch time in the 4th. Tony was traded and now he trusts Patrick Beverly more. If they got rid of Patrick Beverly, I'm sure he would trust Aaron Brooks more. No matter what Point Guard was brought onto the team, Mchale would trust that point guard more than Lin.
When Jeremy plays well, Mchale never says anything positive post game until reporters bring up his name. On the other hand Mchale raves about TD and PB and now even TRob.
ah really? well people here are crazy about basketball,when I say crazy I meant CRAZY. everywhere you can see guys with LeBron,Kobe,CP3, D12 or P. Pierce jerseys, both counterfeit and genuine.people here are not much Jeremy fans and are calling to have Pacers - Heat game instead.anyway, even if its the Rockets-Pacers a lot are excited to see that, because its THE NBA, plus most are excited to see Harden.
Deletethough a Taiwanese colleague told me basketball is big there too.honestly if they weren't going to play here I would fly to Taipei just to see Jeremy play.I would be booing McEnergy REAL LOUD and send him some batteries if he benches Jeremy. I'm serious about that.
McEnergy probably felt the pressure of letting Jeremy play in Taiwan. sheesh, this "I thought.." coach is coming out as racist.
With any luck, he probably won't be there with the team by then. Yup, hope never dies lol.
DeleteIf JLIN does not play the 4thQ tomorrow, all fans of JLIN in arena should boo non-stop for from the 6 minute mark in... even that is being generous time-wise. This is a joke. Time for a BOO-IN.
ReplyDeleteI was one of the first to point out McHale's deficient coaching in the first 5 games. But having watched most of their games since its become obvious to me that Morey and Les are at the helm. I kind of feel bad for McHale. He's stuck between a rock and a hard place. He's not established enough as a coach to demand absolute control so he has to bend a lot to the will of the management.
ReplyDeleteManagement wants up tempo... McHale delivers.
Management wants Harden to be All star... McHale delivers.
Think about it people. Last thing Rox want is for Jeremy to explode as a star player. Look what happened to NY. Rox will not be able to match his price. So, the management deliberately tries to keep his numbers low. Play him less minutes. It's become painfully obvious.
McHale takes the blame.
Harden has 8yr contract. Lin has 3 yrs.
It's self destructive as an organization to allow Lin to shine until they have a longer contract to lock him in.
They wanted to see if Lin is the real deal, and he has delivered. True, that Harden is a huge piece of the Rox pie but Lin is crucial in their quest to become champ caliber team.
Mock my words, once Lind signs a longer contract w/ Rox, you will NOT see him marginalized like this.
At first I thought coaches didn't believe in Lin, but you have to be damn blind to think that Bev is better than Lin.
They did the same thing to Douglas, and look where he's at now.
I find it amazing how management has deliberately built up Harden and Chandler with obscene minutes and they try to keep Asik and Lin's numbers down. Esp Lin because of his potential to become such a Huge international star.
Can't fault the Rox for this or McHale.
I used to think that mgmnt gave free reign, but evidence suggests otherwise.
Disagree with everything u said. But feel ur frustrations though.
DeleteGot to disagree with this comment. You are not going to marginalize JLIN for three years to lock him into something else. Something IS going on here, but not that...
Deleteeither LES wanted him as marketing piece and McSTATS/MCDICK working around him "complying"
or MOREY thought "stats" fit and McDICK disagrees and is going rogue.
I tend to think its more number 1 than number 2. I think McSTATS and McDICK on same page.
damny,
DeleteIf this were true, Parsons would not be showcased as #2 star of the team. They would want to keep his stats and usage deflated so they can resign him to a low ball contract in the future as well. In essence, they would be giving Parsons the Lin treatment too...
In due course, if Parsons is used as trade bait or then sign and traded, then perhaps you were right. But if Parson's is resigned at a high cost to the Rockets and kept, then what you say makes absolutely no sense as to Lin.
damny, Why in the world would Lin sign a longer contract with the Rockets when he is used as a scrub currently? I will "mock your words" because it makes no sense (I know you meant Mark my words....)
What makes you think Lin will take 3 years of abusive treatment and then magically resign? He will be an unrestricted FA and he will bolt and choose a team that REALLY FINALLY wants to use him the right way and build the backcourt around him. I believe he will choose wisely and carefully this time around and he doesn't have to worry about this RFA crap next time around. He can choose to take less money and go where he actually really wants to go and where they flat out promise him a clear role no ifs ands or buts...
It's a nice sentiment to think that Les and Morey wants Lin so badly they are directly sabotaging his stats, all for the sake of keeping him long term. Nice but untrue...it's likely quite the opposite.
Haha... does the Rockets really think JLin will sign with them again after 3 years if he's continuously being treated like a role player during his time there? I really doubt no other team will make any offers for him.
DeleteWhy are we looking for any excuse for the Rockets organization to treat JLin this way? Only semi-plausible excuse is to protect his health, if he's not 100% at the beginning of the season. But now, uh... nope. It is what it is. JLin gets paid to play 25 minutes and improve his game. Not an ideal situation for his development but not the worst. JLin will find a way to be successful.
PAIR @PAIRhouston
ReplyDeleteLOVING all the support being shown for @WorkshopHouston @YellowstoneEdu & PAIR. Final day of voting! Keep #MakingaDifference @JLinFoundation
7:31 a.m. - Mar 7, 2013
VOTE: http://mad.jeremylinfoundation.org/
UPDATE ON MOREY CONTRACT EXTENSION
ReplyDeleteYTUBE RANT: Jeremy Lin Benched in 4th AGAIN
ReplyDeleteJFriedman: News and Notes [The search for consistency, improved first quarter D, and a note on Lin's team-first approach]
ReplyDeleteLIN FEELS ROCKETS AND WARRIORS ARE SIMILAR
ReplyDeleteRemembering the Linsanity: Jeremy Lin returns as Rocket, film star
DeleteFilm release might be next year?? No!
DeleteI better look for film festival screenings in that case.
It would be awesome if someday they release it in 3D.
And 1s: It’s been three games since Jeremy Lin has played in the fourth quarter; a reality borne of his spectacular play Sunday against Dallas that helped put the game so far out of reach that his presence was not required in the final frame, Patrick Beverley’s outstanding fourth quarter performance against Orlando that proved instrumental to Houston’s victory there, and Kevin McHale’s search for a fourth quarter spark in the Dallas defeat that led to Beverley again manning the point for Houston in the final period as the Rockets rallied before ultimately falling short. When asked for his feelings on the matter, Lin hammered home the point he has made all season with both his actions and words: his competitive nature runs as hot as ever, but nothing matters more to him than does team success.
ReplyDelete“Every player understands it’s just a matter of riding the hot hand,” Lin said. “For any athlete, it’s just a matter of not getting too high or not getting too low. I feel like, in the time that I’m out there, I’m playing my brand of basketball so I’m happy about that and whatever time I get I just have to keep playing the way I play. At this point, we’re making this playoff push and we’re really trying to get these wins, so whatever the coaches decide, it is what it is.
“It’s hard for any athlete to sit there when it’s winning time and it’s when it matters. But it’s not about individual egos right now. Obviously everyone wants to be out there. One through fifteen everyone wants to be out there. But that’s just not the way it works. It’s just buying into the team. And we really are a team and really do enjoy being around each other and that makes it easy to sacrifice for each other. For us, we’re all about trying to get that win.”
I see many parallels between this whole Jeremy Lin situation and the Tim Tebow situation. Both have breakout years that dominate the headlines in their respective sports. Then, they are traded to teams where the coach or coaches of their new team inexplicably mismanage their playing times; all while each player says the right things and do what is right for the team as a whole. Both are Christians and good guys. Something very bizarre is going on.
DeleteJLin is a team player. Rockets organization wanted him to comment to smooth things over for McHale. Not buying it, especially since McHale has not shown that he's a competent coach. Poor rotations, lack of adjustments, no plays, lack of accountability are all part of his resume by now. It's another story if it's a coach that had led a team to the finals or won the championship.
Deletewhy keep asking Lin this kind of questions? It is NOT the first time. why not bench Harden or Parsons in 4Q several times and then ask them the same questions? i want to know if they are the team first guys too. rockets writers/FO think we Lin fans are stupid or what?
Deleteglad i did not click the link to read it. in fact, i don't read rockets articles no more.
DeleteRox media chorus - JFeigen reprints JLin quotes for emphasis:
DeleteRockets’ Lin focused on wins, not fourth-quarter minutes
google jeremy lin and you will see them there, no, not interested.
DeleteYup. "Fool me once, shame on u... Fool me twice, shame on me..." Fool me thrice?
DeleteYeah Yeah .. whatever..
DeleteThat's going to be Jeremy's downfall. He's a push-over.
DeleteIt already makes me frustrated seeing Jeremy benched in favor of a rookie (I thought KM does not trust rookies?), it pains me more that Jeremy has to (or was forced to?) come out to do some damage control for them.
DeleteIt's getting really hard to care anymore. If Lin is satisfied with this, then sorry, I'll find something else to waste my time on.
DeleteGood response by Jeremy. He's upping the rhetoric without causing trouble.
DeleteI like that he didn't express any support of McHale (or even mention his name) while still saying that it's the team winning that matters -- which is also smart to reiterate because the Rockets LOST another close game with Jeremy on the bench during crunch time.
Jeremy has to keep intensifying this basic response every time McHale benches him. I'm sure Jeremy will play crunch time during the next few games -- McHale has to placate Les, Jeremy and the fans -- but this will keep happening until McHale is fired.
But the team didn't win!
DeleteTVN, you've been saying for like A YEAR that you have better things to do than watch Lin struggles.
DeleteI'm not trolling you or callin' you out. Just sayin' - and enjoy Lin and this forum!
Well Jeremy is going to act like a pussy then so be it. What he's saying is an insult to all of us fans who are raging here on his behalf, as if he is a family member.
DeleteSo if you are willing to accept the status quo and just take all this bullshit the coach is giving u, who am I to go crazy for him.
Sometimes Lin, u need to take a stand. Best wishes. I will still support you but not going to go crazy on your behalf.
Well said Solidz.. at the moment the tail (team BS) is wagging the dog whereas the dog (Jlin) should be wagging the tail.. if you know what I mean..
Delete@Solidz75,
DeleteThat's exactly how I feel. Why should I keep supporting a guy that doesn't seem to want success badly for himself as much I want for him. He represents so much to so many people. Yeah, it's not fair to him. But it is what it is.
Well, do we really expect him to call out his coach? Not smart. McHale is still somewhat respected in the NBA as a HOF and it's JLin's first full season as a starter. Rockets paid him good money. Media will crucify him. It's easy for us to rage here on the internet, when it's not our career or future. I believe JLin is trying to make the best out of the situation and I hope things will work out for him eventually.
DeleteRockets writers' tweets and articles make me want to barf. Especially when they're talking about CP's hair and how Japanese girls are screaming his name or whatever. Yuck.
DeleteJeremy's a gracious person. I can't say the same about the coaches or the Rockets organization.
This is what Cosby said about Jackie Robinson.. He is carrying all of our weight on our shoulders. If he fails, we fail.
DeleteThat is what I felt about Lin.. Having followed every major sports in the us and never seen an Asian American excel, I thought Jeremy could be that transformative figure for us. Well it looks like he really doesn't want that responsibility. In fact, i think he'd rather give his life to ministry than to strive to become the best basketball player he can be.
It is quite disappointing to hear what he said. I actually feel for most of us, some of which who stay up to fight and support him- when he won't even fight for himself. He is telling us to back off and let him be.
Like i said, I will still root for him, but really let everything be.
Lin could have refused to answer the question. Let his anger show. But he said what he said. Lets not try to put words in his mouth.
DeleteYou guys do what u feel. As u know I have been as outspoken as any of u to bash what I think is an injustice. No more.
I will just accept it for what it is.
I guess people become fans for different reasons. For me, I don't think JLin has any responsibility to anybody but himself to achieve his goals. I'm just a bystander, an observer on the outside. It's my choice to support him because I like seeing him play his game. He owes me nothing.
DeleteOne other thing, JLin is a fighter. He will do it his own way by improving his game. Not going to be the first time or last time that he will have to prove doubters wrong.
DeleteNo he doesn't owe us anything. You are right. No athletes do.
DeleteIn fact, I'm more mad at myself for having more fire than him about this situation.
I think I gave him too much credit.
Really none of us should stop supporting him., but people should lay off our expectation of him and let him just play. That is what he wants.
Lin is not my cultural avatar.
DeleteLin is my "overlooked" avatar.
For years, I've been unhappy with the basketball decisions made by NBA franchises. Too often I feel as if they get the wrong players based on things like looks and reputation instead of actual basketball performance.
If I could combine all my frustrations and build a single player who would the ultimate overlooked super talent, Lin would be the guy. When I see him play, I feel pride not for his race but pride because his career validates some of the complaints and solutions I have for improving the NBA game.
@Solidz75, Lin did say "it is what it is" "...and whatever time I get I just have to keep playing the way I play...." it's clearly out of his control no matter how hard he wants.
Deletedo you guys recall when woodson took over for dantoni and there was a period of time where lin was unsure of his role as the starting pg or baron davis. during a pre-practice or pre-game interview, woodson walked by, and lin directed the reporters to ask woodson whether he's still the starter, or something along those lines, and woodson said yes. i felt lin was kind of ruthless back then putting the coach on the spot. lin was also unafraid of yelling at melo and stat for not playing defense. but what happened to that fire and no fear attitude?
Deletei think lin is still a fighter and doesn't want to be vocal because he's in a different position now. he doesn't just represent himself anymore but all of us and asians around the world. he represent his sponsors, volvo. his actions on/off the court will reflect poorly on his sponsors and people who revere him if he acts out against the coach whether it's justified or not. so lin is really setting a good example by being discipline and patient. his silence speaks louder than acting out in rebellion. while i want him to call out mchale, i don't think that's the best course of action being where lin is now.
if the rockets lose because of mchale's poor decision then its on mchale. if the rockets win, then lin will find a new home in a year or two. like lin said, he will continue to play his brand so i'll just let it be.
Yup, and we fans can still rage and apply pressure to the Rockets front office to fire McHale. Let us do the dirty work lol.
DeleteU guys can take those words as u see it. I actually would've preferred it if he kept silent and not answered those questions the way he did. So paca, he didn't really stay silent.
DeleteI think this is what Jeremy is.. But he does have feelings.. I remember Pablo Torres interview when he said after the Knicks dissed him he was sooo mad that he didn't want to talk to anyone for weeks.
I think he is just a kid who wants to make a living... Playing the sport he loves. Nothing wrong with that.
yeah, i think we fans should do whatever we can to bring attention that lin is being treated unfairly. we also want to be civilized about it and not go overboard because it may backfire on lin.
Deletei was even thinking of going to a game, sit behind the bench, and throw some stuff at mchale and call him out. but that will probably make lin look bad.
DeleteBut what what if he added something to the effect of (after the 1st paragraph). "I feel like I have a lot to offer to help this team make that playoff push and hope that I get more opportunities to contribute as we move ahead"
DeleteWould that have been sooo bad?
Yeah, I agree. We should go about it in a respectful and intelligent way. Don't want to come across as ignorant fans (ie: complaining about benching JLin in the 4th quarter in a blowout game).
DeleteThat will be his way of demanding more playing time,
Deleteoh, i meant silent as being politically correct, as in:
Delete"Every player understands it’s just a matter of riding the hot hand."
"For any athlete, it’s just a matter of not getting too high or not getting too low”
" I feel like, in the time that I’m out there, I’m playing my brand of basketball so I’m happy about that and whatever time I get I just have to keep playing the way I play."
these things he said were like being silent already. lin could have voiced his displeasure in a different way but he kept it cool and nonchalant.
"But what what if he added something to the effect of (after the 1st paragraph). "I feel like I have a lot to offer to help this team make that playoff push and hope that I get more opportunities to contribute as we move ahead"
Deletei don't think that's bad at all but that's implicitly calling out the coach. i was disappointed too that he didn't rip into mchale, but after thinking lin's obligations and his representation i took a different course.
Rockets writers' tweets and articles make me want to barf. Especially when they're talking about CP's hair and how Japanese girls are screaming his name or whatever. Yuck.
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You mean Rockets writers and East Asian women were mocking his hair also? muahahah
please don't say that he represent asians around the world. he does not need to do that.
Delete@Parsons has no hair part and still mad Lin is GQ,
DeleteNo, the writers are gay for Parsons. They were actually saying his new hair was cool and the ladies were going gaga over him.
I just think CP himself and others overrate his hotness and his basketball ability. I don't dislike him, but I do dislike his selfish plays. Hope he starts to pass the ball to Jeremy more instead of trying to do everything by himself and cause ugly TOs.
to those who will watch the game live tomorrow, take @psalm234's sign suggestions:
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Madame Via, welcome back! :)
Hey :)
Deletemake it:
Delete$25M "ENERGY" waiting in the FRIDGE
Make it .. McHale u suck!
Deletemake it: I got you on tape McHell.
DeleteThat sounds like i had a fling with him and taped it.
DeleteGo with "JLIN = Coach Killah!!!"
LOL solid didn't you make a video of Mchell and post it on here before?
DeletePhilippines: Oct 11 - Rox vs Pacers
ReplyDeleteTaiwan: Oct 13 - Rox vs Pacers
I suggest Rox coaches should consider coming up with some excuses not to make the trips. Most likely, no..wait..I should say "definitely", they will not be welcome there.
DeleteTHE HUNTED: WARRIORS, ROCKETS & JAZZ
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Jeremy Lin always has home court advantage when he plays the Warriors!
ReplyDelete"Why no one like me, why is Jeremy Lin GQ and not me, I must have quiet cry time again.."
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hello, iam new here.A lin fan and an observer.lets see if theres any improvement in the next game.the coaches are coward enough to admit theres a lot of flaws in their coaching.
ReplyDeleteWelcome to the forum, Dila.
DeleteIn the NBA, all coaches make TONS of mistakes.
It's just a matter of not letting those mistakes spiral out of control!
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DeleteDo you guys really need to use this kind of language?
DeleteWhat are u the profanity police?
DeleteI'm expressing my opinion by asking a question which is light years away from policing anything... let's get real. Constantly reading male anatomy strikes me as not very pleasant. And I doubt the creates of this site are thrilled with it either but I can't speak for them. I can only guess.
Delete*creators of this site
DeleteHey I've not read Racha say anything derogatory.
DeleteAnd I'm expressing mine. If u get easily offended by profanity on the Internet, perhaps u shouldn't be on it.
Deletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ztVTba8nnI
ReplyDelete4th quarter mavs lin bench fancam
lol, we have to resort to watching bench-cam. I like seeing Asik and Lin together discussing about the officiating though.
DeleteGot to watch Linsanity Knicks vs Mavs 4th quarter game, man, that was so exciting!
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DeleteThat was a great game, because, IIRC, Dallas really locked down in third quarter and Knicks were falling behind.
Lin was big part of comeback and win.
I know he had big three over Novitski (he and Marion were arguing over who should have covered it), and then that big three over Marion with Marion locked in to stop him in fourth.
If you also want to see how Lin destroyed Collision during Linsanity, it was that Knicks vs. Indiana game where, IIRC, Lin was key in closing out game in fourth quarter.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TX_S2hYGqU
DeleteJLin had 28 points, 14 assists. It was so exciting, especially starting the end of 3rd Q and 4Q. I have never get tired watching it repeatedly, especially when I am depressed by Lin being benched!
Thanks.
DeleteForgot that Shawn Marion was assigned to guard him for the whole game.
Lakers game Lin wasn't scouted and Lakers were daring to shoot (which he did), but when Kobe started that one man comeback late in game, it was great watching Lin go mano a mano against Kobe (Lin only scored in low 20s till Kobe led charge, and then Lin had to match him).
Third and fourth quarter of that Knicks vs. Lakers game Lin really shined, because Dallas really seemed to lock down Knicks.
It's very clear that d'antoni was happy for JLin's success, yet it seems to be, McHale doesn't have any happy feeling towards Linsanity kind of success, he said something like 'he may have a movie made about himself.... but ...'. Human beings are just strange, it's very hard to change one's perception about another person. In his eyes, JLin may still be the same JLin got cut from Rockets. He is very hard to please, at least for JLin. Tough situation.
ReplyDeleteThere is a poll on clutch asking who do u think is the leader of this team. Jeremy has 122 votes( 70+ %) with only 100 views. LOH's are going nuts. Lol love u guys.
ReplyDeleteWith all the hatred that gets dished around this forum for a team (except Lin), its fans, and its coach, I'm happy to see yall suffer everytime Lin gets benched :D rofl hahahahaahhaaaaaa! looooooserrrrrrsssss *farts on ur face*
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