JLIN TO MORRIS: WE'RE KICKING YOUR ASSES ON WEDNESDAY...
why? he said that?
Oops, j/k! @snowy.[He's too nice to say that out loud] ;P
Anyway, LOL. One consolation is Morris got to stick it to CF and FO for not giving him cred.
That is maurice not markus.. With the side burnsx
LOLPass the ball to him!
LOL @SolidzThat explains this tweet~gxxxxxxxx cxxxxxxxx @mxxxxxxxxx@Hxxxxxxxxxxxxx Did he check the number on the jersey so he hugged the correct twin? :-)12:34 p.m. - Mar 10, 2013
Well in your defense they do look exactly a like even the tats. The only way to distinguish them is the side burns.
They have different tattoos.
So maurice must have thought:"Dude - why are you hugging me?"
Apparently it's not Maurice but markieff.
Some really great post-game insights here:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrUuCygeDtg&list=UUrrm1J44dQuTrlH0ZvhzTnQ&index=1
Another feel good, Asian underdog story (new lead singer of rock band Journey):http://music.yahoo.com/blogs/heard/rock-doc-tells-amazing-fairy-tale-story-journey-224656407.html
I listen to each analysis after each Rockets game. He is very knowledgeable about basketball and although he is a big Jeremy Lin fan (he says they aspire to become the #1 Jeremy Lin fan site), he tells the good as well as the bad.
@Joe~ I couldn't figure out how to post this thing without it converting into an active link itself. Anyhow, try this? :)!a href="LINK ADDRESS"?LINK!/a?substitute ! with <substitute ? with >
^ If you're still interested...:)
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Honest Post-Game Analysis of Jeremy in First Phoenix GameAsian Lead Singer of Rock Band JourneyThanks via!
Clutch Fans linkI don't know how else to keep saying this. But Lin is clearly, without any doubts, an above average player. AND this is his first year starting. It's like everyone only judges him on the last game played -- makes future prediction of "ceiling", "floor", "better than", "worst than", "top 10" based on the last game played. We declare him a "bust", "overrated", "overpaid", "scrub", "d-leaguer" based on what? Yesterday's game?The FACTS are these:1. Lin averages 14.1 PTS PER36 this season2. Lin averages 6.7 AST PER36 this season14/7 is ABOVE AVERAGE in the NBA.16/8 is ALL-STAR.18/8 is ELITE.Only 12 point guards and shooting guards in the NBA averages those numbers or better this season. That's 12 guards out of 60 NBA starting guards. 12 guards out of 168 guards that have played at least 1 min this year.Totals Per 36 Minutes Shooting Rk Player Age G GS MP FG FGA 3P 3PA TRB AST STL BLK TOV PTS FG% 3P% FT% WS1 Chris Paul 27 52 52 1708 6.2 13.1 1.3 3.8 3.9 10.4 2.6 0.1 2.3 17.9 .475 .339 .891 10.12 Tony Parker 30 56 56 1846 9.0 16.9 0.4 1.1 3.3 8.3 1.0 0.1 2.7 22.9 .533 .379 .829 8.83 Russell Westbrook 24 62 62 2202 8.3 19.1 1.3 3.8 5.3 7.8 1.9 0.2 3.5 23.7 .437 .338 .802 8.84 Deron Williams 28 60 60 2205 5.8 13.6 2.1 5.4 3.1 7.3 0.9 0.4 2.9 17.4 .425 .383 .861 7.15 Ty Lawson 25 63 62 2212 6.4 14.1 1.2 3.3 2.8 7.3 1.6 0.1 2.8 17.4 .457 .373 .746 6.16 Jeff Teague 24 62 62 2054 6.0 13.2 1.2 3.3 2.5 7.6 1.6 0.4 3.2 15.8 .453 .378 .889 4.87 Goran Dragic 26 61 61 2009 5.5 12.7 1.3 4.1 3.2 7.5 1.7 0.4 2.8 15.5 .435 .306 .734 4.38 Jarrett Jack 29 61 4 1800 6.1 13.5 1.4 3.5 3.8 6.8 0.9 0.1 2.6 16.2 .450 .406 .847 4.19 Jeremy Lin 24 64 64 2077 5.1 11.8 1.1 3.3 3.6 6.8 2.0 0.4 3.2 14.1 .436 .323 .791 3.910 Jrue Holiday 22 57 57 2198 7.1 15.9 1.0 2.9 3.9 8.1 1.5 0.4 3.7 17.5 .446 .354 .778 3.211 Greivis Vasquez 26 63 63 2163 5.8 13.6 1.1 3.2 4.7 9.9 0.8 0.1 3.3 14.5 .427 .354 .795 3.212 Jameer Nelson 30 46 46 1620 5.4 13.9 2.2 6.3 3.8 7.6 1.4 0.1 2.8 14.7 .391 .344 .906 2.0Provided by Basketball-Reference.com: View Original TableGenerated 3/10/2013.Of all the guards on this list, Lin takes the FEWEST shots. He's also a better shooter than many give him credit for with a higher FG% than Deron Williams, Goran Dragic, Greivis Vasquez and Jameer Nelson.Did Lin have some horrible games this year? Yes. He's had 13 games with a GameScore of 5 or less, including 3 games below 0. But he's had 31 games with a GameScore above 10 include 4 games above 20. (Link) I am far from a Lin apologist or Lin fan, but I hate it when people based their entire arguments on opinions (bordering on beliefs) especially when there's no corroborating facts. Don't even get me started on how Omer is underrated here.And don't forget that those stats include:- Lin still recovering from knee surgery- team shakeup with Harden trade right before season started- recent trade where great pick and roll help defender, Marcus Morris, and Tony Douglas were traded for T-Rob, Francisco Garcia, and Tyler Honeycutt. Plus recent Patrick Beverley acquistion.
Thanks for the link. Yeah it's crazy how clutchfan goes crazy after Lin after each loss. A lot of the things being said were even racist at least the recent posts. I don't know how this hardisty guy can let people say such things. I think real fan Knicks does a much better job of moderating and trying to keep things on basketball. In any case, great stats to back up Lin's contribution despite playing in an offense that hinders his game. I just have a really bad taste from his poor performance last game.. I need to remind myself that Lin will have bad games once in a while.
It is what it is! People look at an asian guy and they feel hatred. Even if they knew JLin was an elite-player they would not admit it. You guys know the "angryasianman" blog? Read it on a regular basis and you will see that there are a lot of racist people out there.
We can not take under .500 team lightly anymore it seems they always have a tough time with bad teams. Hope they play with more desperation and energy come wednesday. They could have been the 6th spot right now. Seems likely Thunder will take 1st , spurs 2nd, clippers 3rd. I think rockets are a good match up with clippers.
agree. any game is winnable for any team under .5 or not.
Yeah, Rox simply must do BETTER.
Home game should be much easier. Don't have to put up with Suns scorers idiocy from Sunday eg McHale had to stop the game until the Scorers removed 3 points 'wrongly' added to suns score, and reduce a 3 pointer to 2 points for a SUNS shot that was 2 feet inside the area.
Lakers move into playoff position with win over Bulls
Yep, I've been saying this for quite a while now, Lakers is legitimate as soon as the team stops fking around. They have the talent.They are now behind Rockets with ONE game.Rox cannot afford to let up anymore. Getting repeatedly beaten by sub 500 teams...Do they not want to be in the playoffs?
Yeah, it's the refs loving the Lakers. The Lakers are the anti-Rockets: a major media team in a big city that earns a lot of money for the NBA and thus gets totally referee protected. Without the referee protection, the Lakers would be out of the playoffs because they couldn't get away with the superstar garbage they get away with every game. Meanwhile, the Rockets are just regarded as cannon fodder by the NBA for teams like the Lakers.
some ppl mentioned before: there is TOO MUCH MONEY involved in LAL. NBA cannot afford them not being in the playoff.
@KHuang, in case you don't see it on last thread, thanks for writing more. I enjoyed reading your thoughts on the Suns game.
there's no doubt the refs can effect the outcomes of some games, but giving all the props to refs is unfathomable. rockets shouldn't blame anyone for their losses. they are simply horrible and need to blame themselves.
@Kenoshi"Do they not want to be in the playoffs?"with the way they play and the coach handling things, probably not.
pacapunch, you'll eventually change your thinking about NBA refs. I've watched the NBA game for so long, and the majority of them are so poorly officiated that multiple firings and suspensions would take place if grade school ball was this poorly officiated. Referees have the BIGGEST impact on NBA games, pacapunch. Often they have a bigger impact on games than the players themselves. hint hint: Michael Jordan could not have been "Michael Jordan" had refs called him fairly.
Lakers in 8th spot, a game behind the Rox, who are a game behind GSW. Jazz are half game behind the Lakers for 8th spot. [Spots 6-9 are separated by 2.5 games.]Lakers have now won 16 of their last 22 and have won 4 of 5 in March.Rockets have 9 more games in March and 8 of them are at home. 6 of those 9 games are against teams with winning records.
Rox squandered games against lottery teams, could have given themselves a much needed buffer. Now these games vs hard teams have become must wins.I guess Parsons wasn't kidding when he said they don't really scout/watch films...Lol :/
What good would watching videos do? Rox has no set plays but just freestyle anyways.
JLIN IN AUSTIN - SXSW
How far Austin away from Houston?
SOME PICS FROM LINSANITY SCREENING @SXSW
Solidz75 about 3 hours drive
@Solidz~ They say about a 3hr drive.
Oops, shoulda refreshed the page...
I realize he's helping his buddy, but he needs to get some rest. All these media obligations are mentally tiring. Is he supposed to be there for a few days or just tonight.
[No info yet, but I can't see him overstaying...] Screening end around 9+PM, then Q&A...Maybe spend the night there.
Hah, Volvo is getting their money's worth~Fr SXSW:Txxxxx @ixxxxxxxxxxxJeremy Lin drives a family-wagon Volvo. I kind of love him for that.5:58 p.m. - Mar 10, 2013
lin looks like he got a fat lip from the collision with dragic's elbow.
The better to kiss babies with :-)
SCREENING + Q & A PICS
LoL. Lin is sleepy in that pic. He seems a little tired.
@JT~ A real possibility, that. [He's so inspirational, and with such a diverse reach...]---[The usual:]Good Morning Texas @GoodMorningTXOn his faith: "Faith is a huge thing for me and the most important thing...""During my low points... I really wanted to quit. I was so afraid of doing something wrong.""It was hard to work during the whole 'Linsanity' thing. In a much better fit in Houston.""There really wasn't too much racism seen in [the NBA]. Nothing like college""I have a rule with my friends: no Lin puns or joke. But I do really like Super Lintendo""What I've really learned is that I've been given a platform and I want to use it in the right way."
Yeah, you got me right, @via ... President Lin ok, that's nuts.
Wrong year...[@ntt was warning about all the political intrigues. But I bet his people had thought about it, and will think about it in the future too.]
* his people = JLin's people
SOME MORE PICS FROM S X S W
@Solidz. Your comments remind me of Rocky 3. Rocky spent too much time doing PR while Mr. T was training like a dog.
Right? I guess he thinks that it wouldn't interfere with his play, but when I hear about the crazy work ethic Kobe has ... I sometime wonder if Lin has that killer almost unhealthy drive some of these superstars have.
JLIN with EDDIE HUANG, who was @SXSW for VICE.[Eddie Huang: Thank You, Jeremy Lin]
Jlin must step up so that he can help his deflated and disappointed fans to get back up. Personally, I wouldn't know what to think if he has another d-league like performance in the 4th quarter.We are coming down to the end of the season and its not the time for Lin to start slumping. The last thing he needs is to give ammunitions to the critics and haters (and perhaps his teammates and coaching staff) to lay the blame on him for not making the playoffs.I'm kinda worried he is playing so bad this late in the season. I really hope it's an aberration and not the norm from now on.
I feel his performance is directly proportional on his team mates performance. If they tank on him, he performs bad.
Lin's teammates didn't let Lin down this game. The REFS killed Lin, not the Suns.
@KHuang, Well, they played so sloppy, maybe it was actually ok if we see it in person?
The Rockets were crisp and efficient when Lin was leading them. When James Harden set himself up for the iso play up top, that is what led to sloppiness. The majority of Harden's turnovers were unforced, plus his defense was atrocious. I thought Lin did very well in the time he was given. Even when he missed shots, he did so without bringing his team down. Lin came down and played superb defense, then tried to set guys up. Just because Lin had a ugly boxscore shooting percentage doesn't mean he wasn't very involved on offense. Even with the bad shooting, he'd have KILLED the Suns until the refs knocked Lin out. Superstars in the NBA have all sorts of bad shooting nights and still win games, provided the referees hand the game over.
@KHuang, it wasn't just shooting. He had a couple of turnovers too. Did you miss that?
Not at all, geronimo. One of the turnovers was a true Lin butterfingers play. He gets full blame for that, as it was totally unforced. However, that's the only BAD turnover that I remember. Teammates were often sluggish to get to the right spots, not because of physical fatigue but mental fatigue. Several times, Lin passed to guys and they simply weren't ready. The game was lost not because of Lin's shooting and turnovers, but because the referees knocked Lin out from leading the team and collecting fouls. That's not all the referees did in ensuring that the lowly Suns got their win.
Well, there were a couple of turnovers he made which he shouldn't have. The first one was a forced inside bounce pass to Asik that was intercepted. There were a few he got up in the air and threw it away.
Maybe you have a better view at the game.
@geronimo, that's where I think his teammates has to share some blames here. Passing lanes has to be built by both ends, his team mate has to move, and Lin has to know how his team mates will move to.
*where his team mates will move to
EVERYBODY has turnovers, geronimo. If we want to blame turnovers, I'd rather blame James Harden who kept throwing the ball away. Even with Lin being cheated by the refs, he kept them in the game until the bitter end. Every time Lin sat down, the Rockets lost momentum even with Harden and Parsons on the court. You'll see I'm not a nitpicker, Geronimo. I look at a player's net contribution. For example, James Harden was the biggest loser on the Suns to me because not only did he keep throwing the ball away, he had about 40-50 points scored on him with total ease.
No, the initiator of the pass has the full blame. If the receiver is not ready, you don't pass it.
Harden had many turnovers, but Lin wasn't too far back. Harden 8Lin 5Not good for either guy, especially Lin.
They have to be ready, they are in the game. but yes, Lin can be more careful.
I had an EXCELLENT view of the game, geronimo. I sat right behind the backboard up high in the cheap seats. I could see the plays developing from a player's standpoint. There's a visual distortion on TV when they show the game from the sidelines as opposed to the baselines. I can see where players are trying to go and where guys like Lin really show their crazy speed. For me, I don't trust my own sideline court vision because I have to see the game as if I were on the court myself.
Lin also got bashed and hacked all game long. I wasn't keeping track of anybody's actual turnovers, but I did notice that Lin's turnovers largely did not impact offensive flow. Besides, Lin battled so hard defensively that he erased any negativity from those turnovers.
Having been at the game, I can't agree with Lin taking full blame for the turnovers. The Suns got away with holding and shoving all game long. They also doubled Lin very hard and hacked him. When Lin got the ball, it was double team mania with uncalled fouls all over the place. Teammates have to catch passes too. Several of those were missed by teammates, and Lin got into those guys for butterfingering those easy passes.
solidz, it was really deflating. it bothered me the entire day. how can this rockets team be so good and then horrible just overnight. you never know what they're gonna bring. so damn frustrating.
I sympathize with you, pacapunch. It's the REFS, not the Rockets themselves.
@Geronimowhy is it especially not good for lin? so lin has to wait and see if his teammate is ready or not to pass. Or else it's lin's fault. very logic. I see, you like to make a big deal of Lin's TOs as you always did, the day you start to post here and try to avoid and minimize it on Harden TOS as always. And I see you just like to point out Lin's Tos. Even with his 2tos last time. You just can't stop talking about it because that's the only thing you could point out.
i blame the team more than the refs khuang. the rockets had control in the first qtr and seemingly doing well. they like to give up leads and do a lot of bonehead things in the game. the rockets really put themselves in this predicament. if they don't make the playoffs by a a game or two, they can look back at the wizards, bucks, and suns games and wonder what the hec were they doing.
@Frank, Harden plays PG at times but Lin is the true PG and floor general and TOs reflect badly on a PG. If you think Lin's 5 TOs are good than that's fine. Up to you.
you know your true color the best. up to you too. totally fine to me also! just saying...
I completely understand your thought, pacapunch. That said, I was at the game and it started out very fairly officiated. The refs made excellent calls and the Rockets just CRUSHED the Suns. The only boneheaded thing was the pathetic defense from Parsons, Harden, and Beverley. Those guys let the Suns back in the game, but even so the Rockets offense was so potent that the defenseless Suns couldn't do anything to control the game. What really killed the Rockets was the refs letting Haddadi wrestle people on both ends of the court and calling a foul whenever Goran Dragic initiated contact. Generally the Rockets bigs were outmuscled because the refs called loose ball fouls against the Rockets and not the Suns. pacapunch, the Rockets would easily have won this game by 20 or more had the refs not cheated. Remember that this is the NBA where only certain teams like the Lakers are protected by the refs. With a team like Houston, they're always the referee underdog because they're considered one of the smallest media markets in the NBA despite Houston being a physically gigantic city.
If Goran Dragic were properly officiated, he'd get called for offensive fouls every time he elbows people in the head while holding the ball. He got away with a hit like that on Lin, and Lin had to shake that one off. Dragic is very protected by the refs.
Khuang, Jeremy has to take accountability for his poor play. Blaming the refs will get him, or anyone else, no where. U just can't continue to say Jeremy played well and the refs killed him. Well he has played well despite the refs before. As someone who has watched almost every single game he has played ( maybe I missed one or two quarters), I can say with confidence that this was one of Jeremy's poorest showings. Blaming the refs only make you seem like u r looking for excuses. E
Gero, I'm late to the convo here but no way in hell Huang had a better view if the game from the upper deck. Also not having the benefit of the replay like u do at home, u miss a lot of stuff.I really feel like KHuang is the anti McHale, he has the Lin blinders on and sees what he wants to see. To call Lin the best player last night is as ridiculous statement as calling him the sole reason for the loss.We love Lin, but at the same time need to be realistic. He has the potential, but judging by his inconsistency this year, he had a loooooong way to go.
How can I NOT call Lin the best player on the Rockets, Solidz75? I watched James Harden get ROASTED defensively while throwing the ball and the game away. That guy literally got 40+ points scored on him without counting his 8 turnovers and you wanna call that SCRUB the best player in the game? Chandler Parsons bricked easy shots and dropped Lin's passes and played such bad defense that Marcus Morris and Jared Dudley LIT HIM UP. He gave up more points than he scored, and you want to call him the second best player? Meanwhile your least favorite hero Lin comes into the game and either gets the lead back or keeps the Rockets from descending into the depths. Keep in mind that Harden and Parsons, your heros are getting SLAUGHTERED defensively even with Lin on the court. Don't be one of those foolz that looks only at scoring and then hates me for liking the only player on the Rockets who actually plays both ways and creates a net positive on the game, Solidz75. Also, don't let your personal vendetta against me cloud your vision of the game. Don't even pretend that seeing a game on TV is better than seeing it LIVE.
And solidz75, I'm going to ask you a question. When Hamed Haddadi grabs Jeremy Lin and the foul is called on Lin, why do you blame Lin and not Haddadi? When Lin goes up for a layup and is bodychecked across the court for no foul, why do you blame Lin?This no excuses thing that you preach is a bunch of BALONEY. EVERYBODY knows that the NBA refs are totally biased. Do you think Mark Cuban has thrown all away all that ref money over nothing?
Besides, anybody here will tell you that I'm the only PRO Mchale person on this entire board!
Khuang, you are taking your Lin fanboyism to the extreme. To borrow your word, u sound "nuts" when's call Lin the best player on the team last night.Now I don't doubt that u r student of the game and a lot of technical stuff u bring up validates that. U can take that conspiracy theory about personal vendetta against u out the window - I don't even know u.However when u fault everyone including other teammates and the refs, everyone except for Lin then u r crossing the line between a real observer and a fanboy. Look Lin got bad calls, but he gets bad calls every game. Nothing has changed. But he did play badly last night.. He was not the best player.. If anything harden did more good than bad to keep them in the game. But nothing changes the fact that everyone including Lin did not play well. Lets call it for what it is.
And stop with these blaming the refs... Nothing is going to change. It's not like Lin fouls out every game. The problem is he doesn't get calls like harden. That will come with time hopefully.
You are the one who's "nuts", Solidz75. I cannot call you anything other than a LIN HATER, based on your flaming of Lin and his fans on this fansite. Not only do you think it's right for NBA refs to cheat Lin with phantom fouls and illegal bashing, you BLAME LIN. That's total hater behavior, to blame Lin when Goran Dragic elbows him in the head. You expect Lin to somehow beat these NBA refs, and then you flame Lin and his fans when the refs cheat? You're not even not just a Lin fan, you aren't even a real basketball fan. You're here to bash Lin and his fans. HATER.
And you know what else?Stop with this LYING about me being an "extreme Lin fanboy".I'm a fanboy of the ENTIRE NBA, even the players that get away with bashing Lin. If anything, I'm less of a Lin fan than a whole lot of people here because Lin's just one star in an entire galaxy of stars that I follow. I don't have any blinders on when it comes to not just Lin but any player in the NBA. I have watched the game likely longer than you've been alive, Solidz75, so I know who's playing and not. If a guy isn't making a net positive on both offense and defense, he's a NEGATIVE and I don't like net negative players. Right now, James Harden is a net negative player. Maybe you think it's OK for him to be giving up more points than he scores, but I'm nothing like you. I like guys like Lin who play excellent defense and contribute offensively, even if the offense is uneven likely because of the defense. And if you're such a Harden fanboy, go start your own little site and bash us Lin fans from there.
Me a Lin hater? U call everyone who disagrees with your egregious statements hater only to apologize like a bipolar psycho. So if u consider me pointing out that Lin had a bad game makes me a hater, then so be it. I must be the worst hater of LOH. Lets all bow to almighty Khuang who actually thinks that watching from a nose bleeder gives u a better view of the game than watching from home - the dude who thinks he is too smart for his own good by pointing out delusional insights about the game only to call people haters and not a basket ball fan for disagreeing with him, who's trolling who? Yeah I'm the one who is nuts by refusing to believe that Lin played well yesterday. Lol.
Khuang, go take your medicine. Your delusions are becoming too real for you.
Well, Khuang's position this year has always been consistent which is Jeremy has been improving under McHell's "tutelage". So, defending Jeremy's worst game of the year doesn't contradict his claim as the only pro McHell person on this entire board. It's completely consistent with his distortion of reality.
Etane, u really gotta be delusional to believe Lin was the only one who played badly yesterday. I think he really believes that too judging by his reaction.. My goodness. The kid has his issues.
Here comes the biggest psychopath troll of all, BUTANE ETANE. You two trolls, Solidz75 and Etane, HATE EVERYBODY on this board. BRING IT ON, flameboys.
Butane Etane and Solidz75 LOVE to see Lin being bashed illegally off referee bad calls. When that happens, it allows them to flame Lin fans who don't blame Lin when Lin gets hit for blood. Knowing Etane's overtly racist psychopathic nature and Solidz75's hate of Lin's game, those trolls probably LOVE seeing the Asian guy being bashed.
Every time the Rockets lose, trolls like Etane and Solidz75 come here to flame Lin fans on this board. It's so damn predictable and PATHETIC.
Etane, what did u do incur the wrath of Khuang? This kid is really angry.
I don't know I stopped reading his court side reporting by watching the jumbotron.But, not sure how you came to the conclusion that I believe Lin was the only one that played badly. I make no mention of that anywhere. So, I do question your sanity as well.
Lol ... I was talking about KHuang.. Yeah I think I'm going insane trying to talk to Khuang.
There you go again Etane, lying about me actually being at the game and watching it. I didn't even look at the jumbotron, but you're lying about it again. Now Solidz75 the troll is going to help you lie about that too. Like I said, you anti Lin fan trolls are SO PREDICTABLE.
Etane and Solidz75 are just regular posters here.You are the one trying to police everyone.
Here comes troll #3 in desert_boot.You only post here when the Rockets lose too.
I chalk up the last game to Lin being tired, and not being disciplined.Keep in mind Lin has watched a lot of film on Dragic before. That's also obvious in how he shut him down. That last shot was a difficult one -- good defense, just better offense. When Dragic got frustrated, he started pushing off. Unless the refereeing is really imbalanced, I have no doubt Lin will get the better of Dragic in the four game series. Dragic cannot contain Lin.
I think the only thing that Dragic is doing better is his shooting.
Dragic was just revenging being rebuffed when he tried to join their pre-game ritual...[Not making light of your post, @0ccu] :)
Lin didn't look tired at all to me. He was the fastest player on the court, and he made great defensive plays all game long. Lin was MURDERING the Suns until the refs got into Lin with the phantom foul calls and brutal uncalled hacking. Don't trash Lin's game because the refs wanted Phoenix to win.
His shots were coming up short, which is a sign of fatigue, and it was a back to back game.Who's 'trashing' his game? There you go again.
You may think shooting is the only part of the game that counts, but it's not. Time and time again, Jeremy Lin made quality offensive plays for himself or others. People here are saying that Lin had a "bad" game, that it was "fatigue". And I'm here to say that Lin was TERRIFIC and that he didn't look tired every time he stopped Goran Dragic from scoring. When the refs knock out a player with fake fouls, I don't blame the player. I've watched the NBA too long to make that kind of irresponsble mistake.
Since when did I say shooting was the only part of the game?You got a problem with needing to find someone to channel your aggression. I'm not your enemy, so chill the f out.
Watch your language, hater. You weren't at the game, so you didn't see Lin scurrying about with absolutely no fatigue. You blame Lin's woes on Lin. No need for that. Go see the refs cheating Lin, unless you're one of those naive fans that think Lin's some sort of scrub.
@KHuang, it will be nicer if those shots fall :P
the ROX-SUNS game's officials: #17 Joe Crawford, #74 Curtis Blair, #33 Sean CorbinJoe Crawford is #6 of the TOP 6 HOMER REFEREES IN THE NBAnot sure if anyone remembered this, but #1 of these refs (#44 Eli Roe) was the ref that made a bad call against Jeremy before.How can such refs be allowed to keep their jobs? Players work so hard to be screwed up by these refs, it's really terrible. Shouldn't the refs be held responsible for their incompetence?
Lin missing those shots was Lin missing those shots, not fatigue! His shot form looked fine, as did his elevation. Lin did hit a few jumpers and flew in for a few layups. What REALLY messed Lin up were the uncalled fouls. He got smashed several times on both ends of the court. Those hits destabilized Lin and knocked out his shooting touch.
I was there when Lin BRUTALLY hacked Goran Dragic in front of Joey Crawford to stop the shot clock and Crawford REFUSED to call the foul! I absolutely hate that ref. He's screwed up so many games I've watched, DELIBERATELY.I have no doubt that Joey Crawford knows how to call the game perfectly. But he won't, likely because of an NBA mandate or because he has money on the game.
What looks like discrimination can usually be explained in terms of incompetence. The referees in the Phoenix game could not even ensure that the scoreboard was correct -- that's obviously incompetence. Or are you going to trot out some conspiracy theory that they were trying to scam the game by giving Phoenix 3 points? Get real.
Joey Crawford should not have a job, for sure. What his motivations, biases and personal antipathies are, one can only speculate. Certainly, Rockets don't fare well when he calls the game.
So if you agree with me why Joey Crawford RUINED this game, why're you trying to make me look like I don't know what I'm talking about?You see the refs cheating not just the Rockets and Lin, but other teams around the league. And you accuse me of not "being real"? Do you dislike me THAT MUCH, that you'd hate on me despite AGREEING with me? Listen closely, buddy. My ire at the officiating is not directed against you or anybody else here. I actually sympathize with people who think that Lin is playing badly in these games, because he IS. But it's not his fault - and our guy Joey Crawford is one of the three reasons why!
@KHuang, I've watched more than a handful of games. When Lin hacked Dragic and the ref didn't call it, it's a common occurrence. It happens in the NBA all the time and I've seen it many times.
And, everyone noticed those bad officiating, the announcers always say, players has to adapt :P
Of course it happens. I've seen it too. But this is the first time I've seen a player like Lin get as cheated as much on in a single game. Even the Phoenix crowd instinctively sensed that the win was BS.
I remember at least 2 phantom fouls called on Lin. First, when his man (not Dragic) drove in and Lin gave him plenty of space but still got whistled. Lin couldn't believe it either when he saw the replay. Second, when he went over a screen while covering Dragic. Maybe there were others, I don't remember.I think Lin gets the most phantom calls in the league. The reasons for this I probably various and complicated, but one of them is prolly that some/many refs think he is a bad defender so they cannot believe it when his man misses a shot, or screws up a play, without being fouled by Lin.As for that late game play in which Lin tried to foul Dragic, in fairness, it was somewhat ambiguous what Lin was trying to do. I didn't review the game tape but from what I recall, it looked like Lin was making a play on the ball by reaching around around Dragic, trying to go poke the ball out. There was a lot of contact, but that is often ignored at the end game. If Lin hadn't made a play for the ball but did something unambiguous like grab Dragic's jersey, hug him, etc, then the refs would have no choice but to call it a foul. Instead, Lin gambled for a steal. You can't have it both ways -- either you are intentionally fouling or you trying to make a play on the ball. A veteran version of Lin would not have done it that way, IMO. As I said, I didn't review the tape, but that is what I recall about that play.
By the way, Occupati0, my "trashing" comment was not directed at you at all. It was directed at people in general that think Lin had a bad game. I don't disagree with anything you wrote. If my comment offended you, I APOLOGIZE. I didn't mean it that way, and definitely not at you. Sorry.
No worries. That game was a bile-injecting pisser. I'm ready to move onto the next game. Too bad it's not till Wednesday.
Thank you for forgiving me, Occupati0. Let's hope the Rockets play well, no matter what the refs do.
There u go again, apologizing after calling people hater for disagreeing with you. Refs refs refs, give it up man
Unlike you, Solidz75, Occupati0 shows class and courtesy. That's why you're a HATER and a FLAMER.
Okay Huang I'm a troll and Lin hater. U figured me out.
U serious? Or joking? U can't be that obtuse can you?
Rarely agree with KHuang on anything (almost gave me an aneurysm when he said McHale had his vote for COTY), but isn't it interesting that Dragic went from 17 points and 16 assists the day before to 18 points and ONE!!! assist against the Rockets?In fact, the guy had been dishing the dimes as if the economy of Slovenia depended on them, for quite a few games recently.Don't be too hard on Lin. It's really physically AND mentally draining to be practically the only guy on your team consistently playing both ends of the court. And that's not even taking into account the douchebag of a coach he has to deal with daily.
No one here said Lin didn't do well on the defensive end.Although, even on D, Lin wasn't as sharp as he as he usually is as in earlier games. Fatigue/wear and tear obviously played a roll here.Dragic didn't do much against Lin but the second team did very well against Rox.
There's much I dislike about the NBA, refereeing being the prime thing I hate. I know that the NBA is trying to prevent horrible teams like the Suns from screwing themselves up so badly that they lose money because disgusted fans like me will refuse to spend their money to see bad basketball. At this last game, the arena was nearly half empty. The crowd was not into the Suns, and the loudest they got was when they booed Michael Beasley in player introductions! The NBA can't have bad teams like the Suns being hated on by unhappy fans, and so they occasionally throw bad teams a win in order to keep franchises financially afloat. I am an NBA fan, but I'm not a pure adoring fan because the NBA monkeys around with the refereeing too much. No player I've ever seen is more adversely affected by the negative refereeing than Jeremy Lin. He's literally playing a different game than the rest of the entire league.
They do that so super stars got their bouns calls. :P I hate those too.
see my post above:ROX-SUNS game official: Joe Crawford is #6 of the TOP 6 HOMER REFEREES IN THE NBA
I especially dislike Joe Crawford, he always stalls the game to show his authorities.
If I was NBA commissioner, I'd call all the refs in and say "Call the games straight with no superstar or rookie bias, otherwise I'll fire you". And they'd call a perfect game because it's NOT THAT HARD TO DO.Then I'd probably get FIRED as NBA commissioner because the NBA power structure would change overnight and suddenly the overall NBA dollars would diminish due to Washington vs. New Orleans NBA Finals!
It is not a game , it is a business . It is sad but it is true.
Hey, I used to be a fan of pro wrestling as a kid. Hulk Hogan, Gregg "The Hammer" Valentine, Sergeant Slaughter, and the Iron Sheik were my heros. As an adult, I still enjoy going to games like this with scripted endings. It's just that I've substituted Kobe for the Hulkster!
WELL...[FWIW there was also THIS...]
"If I was NBA commissioner, I'd call all the refs in and say 'Call the games straight with no superstar or rookie bias, otherwise I'll fire you'."For whatever it's worth, Stern did attend the last GS game. Overall, Lin got calls that night -- missed the Bogut hack but it was made up, intentionally or not, on a later possession. The refs missed Smith's goaltend, despite that being unfavorable towards the home team. I think that goes to show that the refs can't even do a good job when they want to.
I actually don't mind occasional missed calls from NBA refs. It's when they SYSTEMATICALLY BIAS their calls that I get infuriated. Lin's the most egregious example of a single player being targeted by NBA refs. That's why I hate Kobe Bryant. Take away the NBA's preferential refereeing and we'd be seeing a guy who's not even at James Harden's level.
Via: Funny links but I fail to see the relevancy to this post. Or, I missed the non sequitar? = P
Kobe's wrestling face.[And Dwight's airball the same night because...why not? lol.]
LOL now that you mention it, Kobe does look a lot like Randy Savage in that gif.
You know sometimes you gotta wonder...I see in a lot of games where the toyota center had plenty of empty seats...Yet the announcers or nba.com says its a sellout crowd.What gives? Not turning this into a conspiracy but its just odd to me.
Yes, @unknown, whenever there's business, there's corruption. Either go with the rule, or fight against it.
Maybe the season ticket holders didn't show up.
[AsAmNews]What's Jeremy Lin really like?A Conversation With Evan Jackson Leong About Linsanity, the Movie
Um, sorry if this is obvious, but is that movie actually getting distribution?
CAA handling US distribution. Fortissimo Films has international distribution rights.
Good, it got picked up. Now I can wait for the DVD heh.I'll of course watch the thing, but the arc of the story seems somewhat -- I don't know how to put it exactly -- contrived, as the movie closes with last year's Linsanity, as if that were the end to it all. In terms of storytelling, that's a nice story arc of course, since all that pre-Linsanity footage and story can build up to Linsanity (which is more incredible and climactic than any classic sports movie) but for everyone who has been following Lin afterwards through his Rockets stage, I imagine the movie's ending may feel like a rather unnatural cut-off point. That is, I KNOW the story does not end there, and more importantly what happens with the rest of Lin's career will necessarily change the meaning of the original Linsanity story when we look back on it.I haven't seen the movie but I did see footage of the filmmakers talking about how they needed an ending for the movie and worried that it would end flat when Lin got cut from the Rockets last year.
Dude, hiis life story continues but Linsanity itself was one of the best sport moment there is.. It still gives me goosebumps watching those game highlights.I can't wait to get my bluray. It's one of those moments u remember exactly u were when it happened.
GET UP BRANDON, C'MON BRANDON.
I feel bad for Brandon Knight. He also got his ankles broken during the All-Star weekend by Irving -- that was I think more embarrassing, esp with the way Irving gloated about it afterwards.
Yeah, people are rewatching THIS.[See comments]
"A MOMENT FOR SILENCE FOR BRANDON KNIGHT..."
I think the dunk itself is overrated. - it's just that there was small man in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Same story...Lin plays well - Rockets win....Lin doesn't get to play his game due to irrational coaches/unfair refs - Rockets lose. Lin is a star, a winner, and the real leader of his team. Just hoping for a time when at least his own team will allow him to do his thing on a consistent basis.
Have hope, Andy. This time it was the refs, not the coaches. I agree with you that "Lin is a star, a winner, and the real leader of his team". From what I saw live at the game, everybody on the Rockets including Harden was looking to Lin to eke out the win. Don't worry. Lin has too much game to not excel in the NBA. Even the anti-Lin refs can only limit him, not outright stop him.
And don't listen to these trolls like Butane Etane and Solidz75. These guys HATE Lin and Lin's fans, which is why they're here trying to troll this forum. Just keep enjoying Lin's game, as there's much to like.
Yes I just hate Lin.
oh come on guys. the real trolls are the ones lurking here after a loss. quite unfair that these bastard trolls only come out after a loss.after a win,they're nowhere to be found, denying fans here the sheer delight of stuffing Jeremy haters/trolls.
[Linsanity Documentary]SXSW PRESS AND POST-MOVIE Q&A.FB PHOTOSET[Pics added as they are released.]
LOLWUTCxxxxxx Nx @cxxxxxJeremy Lin @jlin7 was turned away at the @path @spotify #sxsw party. Like the good ol' days at MSG. #nbaCollapse Reply Retweet Favorite More10:13 p.m. - Mar 10, 2013
[WTH?! He can't be serious...]Cxxxxxx Nx @cxxxxx@dens climbing the gate into the VIP area at his own @foursquare party #sxsw http://pic.twitter.com/aWL5QuNglZ10:16 p.m. - Mar 10, 2013
I don't know if this has already been posted. At least Dragic acknowledged JLin's defense, to a certain extent:“I didn’t find the rhythm the first three quarters,” Dragic said. “They were really defending me well, especially in the pick-and-rolls. Asik did a good job and even Jeremy Lin … it was tough to make a play. In the fourth quarter, I just was talking to coach, I told him, let me play. I have to do something for the team. I hit a couple of shots, went to the free throw line.”Read more: http://valleyofthesuns.com/2013/03/09/phoenix-suns-houston-rockets-surviving-james-harden/#ixzz2NCz0szXA
Well, that's exactly what I saw in the game. Trolls here like Etane and Solidz75 are calling my views of the game "delusional", but it's good to see that Goran Dragic himself is making the exact same comments that I made about Dragic being SHUT DOWN until the refs saved him. Obviously those two trolls think Dragic is "delusional" too, since Dragic's comments totally corroborate what I've been writing here about my actual experience at the game.
I didn't read the part when dragic said the refs helped him. In any case, what does he mean "even Jeremy Lin" - somewhat condescending isn't it?
It's funny bc most the credit actually goes to Jeremy, but Dragic's comment makes it sound like Lin was just an afterthought, and that Asik was the main reason Dragic was shut down. Lin did shade Dragic towards Asik by defending Dragic's left-hand drive -- that's Lin playing good positional defense and team defense, so Asik's contribution cannot be separated from how Lin was playing Dragic.
Lin did not play well, Dragic got some lucky breaks, just accept it and move onto the next game!
At the game, I don't recall Asik ever stepping up to contest Dragic on the pick and rolls especially when Lin got sandwiched in the 2nd half by Haddadi and the refs were calling Lin for fouls off of Haddadi's moving picks. It's simply a frustrated NBA point guard in Dragic not wanting to give credit to an nasty opponent in Lin who SHUT HIM DOWN.Lin got no help in defending Dragic from any of the Houston Rockets.
@Occupati0:Well said! Most people dont get it. They see a player move past a guy and they say the guy is a bad defender. They dont think about possibilities like forcing a player to his weak side or force a pass to a bad shooter and stuff. Basketball (like everything in life) is a chess and a numbers game. JLins D is OK! It would work great if his teammates knew how to connect on his D.
Very true, although, I think it is actually harder to ask a 7-footer to take one more step for the PnR and then have to run back to his man.
Lin was stuck behind the pick from Haddadi, which means that Haddadi was also stuck on Lin. The Iranian guy is not a threat from jumpshot range, so Asik should have stuck to Dragic until help arrived.Asik is one of the quickest centers in the league. He excelled in PnR defense for the Chicago Bulls. Hopefully McFail will use this time wisely to study tape on the game to exploit weaknesses of the Suns. Rockets probably didn't know too much about their opponent going into Saturday's game and didn't know what to expect.
I'm thinking the NBA really wants the Lakers, and possibly the Mavericks to be in the playoffs. Which means the refs might make some highly questionable calls against Houston, Utah, Golden State, to knock those bottom teams out of the playoffs.
There's that theory floating around the Sinosphere, about the Lakers.
Don't know about the mavs but definitely for the lakers. But I think the nba would want Houston because of Lin and the Asian interest his games will generate and because they are fun to watch. But certainly nba is not gonna help the Rox as much as the will do for the lakers. No doubt in my mind.
Waitaminute, Solidz75. "Refs refs refs. Give it up, man".Those are your words to me. So it's OK for you to complain about the refs and not for me. UH HUH.
YTUBE VERSION OF POST-MOVIE Q&A[in case posters would want to comment]
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LANDRY FIELDS' BUZZER BEATER GONE WRONG
Houston Rockets – Want a Big Man Next to James Harden & Jeremy Lin
random video I found from Jeremy fans on Twitter:KEVIN MCHALE IS JUST A JEREMY LIN DOUBTER.NOTHING MORE.NOTHING LESS.
I saw the video last night. I couldn't agree more with the analysis. McHale is a Lin doubter. He is pretending that Linsanity never happened. I think Lin is improving and his stat shows that. He will only get better. This is a chapter now as we are pushing for the playoff. Lin will show McHale his clutch and closer mentality. Iam excited as ever for Lin. I cant't wait to see his 1 st experience in playoff.
Only thing I think the guy forgot to point out is the ball gets sticky with lots of other players, but McHell only complains about Lin not moving the ball. But, it's just another example of the double standard that the guy in the video did a very good job pointing out.
Someone should heat the ball up so it is hard to hold it for too long :P
LOL. Put a timer on the ball. Whoever is holding the ball when the timer goes off has to give up 1,000 McChickens.The guy in the video can consider doing another video regarding Lin's no call hard fouls he's received all season long.
The title is somewhat misleading.. Not as anti McHale as I thought it would be. I don't know, my complaints about McHale has tempered a lot since Jeremy's rather vocal acceptance of the status quo - with not even a hint of ant dissatisfaction. I realize he couldn't say anything negative but actually watching him say these things showed me that he surprisingly seems okay with the way he has been used. Maybe it's the pride thing, but if Jeremy is going to accept it than that is what it will be. I think Jeremy will just have to find himself out of this by learning to excel with what he has been given.. Will Lin ever achieve his potential? His future will be set by how he chooses to accept or change his current situation.
The Rockets has bigger issues and not the refs.Homestretch will test Rockets' consistency against lesser foes "The loss to the Suns differed from others because of the Rockets' game-long inability to control the defensive boards. The Rockets are second in the NBA in defensive-rebound percentage and second-chance points allowed.They rely excessively on Omer Asik to handle the boards, and losses to the Bucks and Wizards ended when he could not get enough help.The greater issue seems to be a lack of intensity when playing teams at the bottom of the standings, costing the Rockets the pace and ball movement that is crucial to their offensive style. When that bogs down, increased turnovers and long misses trigger opposing transition offense, which exploits the Rockets' season-long issues with transition defense. Those issues have all been more frequent on the road, with the Rockets returning home to face the Suns again determined to make corrections.There is a bright side. If the Rockets make the playoffs, there won't be any last-place teams waiting there for them."
The Rockets cannot control the defensive boards because Harden and Parsons and Beverley cannot stay in front of the players they are allegedly guarding. When those three players get beaten defensively off the dribble, it puts opposing players under the basket in a gang rebounding situation. That's why the Suns were able to get like 5 offensive rebounds in a row in that one sequence, because Asik was battling by himself down low. If those three Rockets did nothing but stay in front of the men they're guarding, that alone would solve the defensive rebounding issues.
In other news that are somewhat related to Jeremy Lin's situation.