Wednesday, March 27, 2013

Rockets vs Pacers Game #71 1st Half Game Thread

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  1. Steadfast. Hang in there with me guys

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    1. I'm ready for the roller coaster, Rikki :)
      Here we go!

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  2. We're with you Rikki, let's go Jeremy!

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  3. oh man starting badly. Surprised to see Lin on the floor since he's not been on the floor lately it seems. And, he hurts himself on his first drive then turns the ball over on the second possession....

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  4. Wow! Lin off to a nonchalant bad start. a missed layup that wasn't a good shot, followed by a TO. smh.

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    1. Can't tell without a replay but pretty sure he was pushed on that drive?

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    2. probably..... Lin rarely gets calls this year. Lin will get better as he warms up, along with all his teammates who seem to be rusty also, so far.

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    3. maybe not..... the pacers are a very good team, sigh.

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    1. Here comes the good part of Jeremy Lin!

      He's back in in the 3rd Q finally! This is the one of those game where Lin deserved to be benched..... but he's back in and playing better.

      Go Rockets! They might pull it off tonight.

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  6. KHuang's dude Hansborough is killing both DMo and Robinson!

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  7. Lin and Harden playing poorly. Robinson getting toasted.

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  8. Totally telegraphed pass -- Lincredibly bad pass that frankly I thought I would not see from Lin anymore.

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  9. Lin out with 5 mins left in 1Q

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  10. I can't watch this anymore... here comes beverly... jeremy looks sluggish... what's up?

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    1. Confidence shot. And his ankle turned early this game.

      Just a funk he has to go through. Some PGs go 2-12 a lot (Lilliard). For Jeremy it's high TOs.

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    2. I didn't see him turning the ankle... I thought he hit his ankle on the camera... did it look bad?

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  11. Jeremy just isn't right lately.

    That turned ankle doesn't help either. Something's wrong with his confidence and maybe physically, too.

    He's playing scared and making dumb TOs because he hesitates instead of driving.

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    1. Pacers plan was to take Lin out of the game early and force McHale to put in Beverly.

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  13. Back to back TOs caused Lin to be benched.

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    1. Yeah, he was probably fouled on that last one but it doesn't matter.

      He was hesitation and allowing the trap instead of attacking or passing ASAP.

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    2. The first one was definitely a foul not being called but the next telegraphed pass did not help. Lin should have attacked the rim since the ref probably will give him FTs to atone for the blown call.

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    3. I could see that TO coming from miles away. They trapped him and then he threw the ball in panic. I am speechless.

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  14. Man Jeremy's wounded inside out

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  15. I bet Jeremy will be benched until second quarter. here comes the "starting PG" Mc loves... *$(%*)*!

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  16. Rockets interior defense is non-existent.

    T-Rob and Bev lineup hasn't helped to stop the bleeding.

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  17. The Pacers want it more and the Rockets have no legit NBA power forward. So the Pacers are packing the paint daring the Rockets to drive.

    It doesn't help the Rockets are bitching for calls all the time.

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  18. Jump stop needs to be continuous or it's a travel.

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  19. Someone please say when he is back... I'm solely relying on you guys right now...

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    1. You can listen to the game for free (NBA League Pass Audio) at NBA website.

      You just have to sign up for their free All Access membership.

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    2. Thanks Joe, I have League Pass. I just can't bear to watchb right now. Lol.

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  20. Man, Lin alternates from an All-Star level to a scrub level too often and too quickly. Sure gives you high blood pressure. This might be the game where Bev plays more than Lin.

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    1. That's a good thing. Makes it easier to decide what I want to do with my 5-7pm. I could be working out right now instead of watching other people working out.

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    2. He's only played like 6min, not sure how you came away with scrub. I'll wait until after the game to judge him.

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    3. In 7 minutes he played like a scrub; maybe he will turn it around rest of the game, if given a chance to play.

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  21. i think jeremy is doing bad but so is the rest of the rockets team...

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  22. They play nothing......
    no offensive plays once the inbound the ball there goes harden looking for his shots..

    Defensive ... it looks like a high school player vs primary school player 0 defense.. a lot of offensive rebounda and easy basket for them

    Plus jeremy treated like a kid...
    When he play bad there goes pb as always always...
    Why the coach just say
    " Focus jeremy make some plays don't hesitate takes it if you can"

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  23. I sure want to know why Jeremy is hesitant right now.I wonder if it's something personal or something about the team.I didn't see him play hesitantly when he was a Knick.

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    1. I have a better answer: He's hesitant because he's chosen to be hesitant.

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  24. Pacers second unit in, HOU should get a break here.

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  25. Tell me what is the worst of this too?..

    7mins 1/3 3 to or 12mins 1/7

    So when you benched lin
    Does it really make a difference??

    Man let him.play then he will make a difference!!.

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    1. If you took decent shots but just missed, that's hard to blame. Objectively, I would say 3 TOs is worse, unless some of those misses were horrible or bad shots he should not have taken. I have a feeling that in this game Bev will end up playing more than Lin. Maybe AB will come in.

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  26. I don't think we'll see Lin back in the game today. He looks very intimidated by the Pacers defense. Instead of jacking up bad shots, he's throwing bad passes hoping the ball will get there.

    This is looking a lot like the Clippers game where the Clips were on fire from 3-point land because the Rockets aren't contesting outside shots. McHale can't see that Delfino isn't challenging 3's.

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    1. Lin actually got to play in the Clippers game though.

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    2. Yeah, like 15 minutes. McHale had already lost confidence in his starting PG by then.

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    3. Oh look, Lins still on the bench.

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  27. Who is running the show?
    Who is adjusting to a new role?
    If the game plan works, everybody should be playing well.
    If not, whose fault is it?

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  28. Seriously? Rockets are getting hacked at the rim and don't get FT's ... Pacers get a tap on the hand and get automatic FT's.

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  29. Late to the game ... Why da eff is bev in so long..

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  30. I hope McHale makes a mistake to experiment to put Lin in with the current team so Lin will blow up having GSmith and TRob finishing his alley oops :) And Delfino to finish make his 3PTs.

    Bev and Parsons playing playmakers are really hard to watch!

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    1. Of course, McHale put Harden in first instead of Lin.
      Lin can't look good playing PG.

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  31. Beverly playing really well, Lin's sitting for a long time

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    1. It sucks but I have to agree and applaud Bev for his confident play.

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  32. Bev is playing like an All-star now, the way Lin should be playing, confidently and aggressively.

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  33. So looks like Lin is playing like shit. Wow that McHale love getting to him.

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  34. JLin needs to copy Beverly's floater. He's not getting any open layups in this game.

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    1. He already has a floater. It's great but he still needs room for it.

      Beverly is going up against single or no coverage whatsoever. So it's easy to score with nobody on you!

      But yeah, Jeremy is playing badly. Confidence shot by McHale.

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  35. Man..racing home from work and this is what I'm coming home to. "sigh"

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  36. Great job Lin. Praise bev, McHale.. Play scared. Don't speak out. What da duck happen to you?

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  37. Is Bev better shooter than Lin?

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    1. It's a lot smoother than Lin's jumper.

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  38. Lin is done Patrick is going to take his spot

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    1. Nah, they're gonna share those minutes but Bev will get the crucial minutes.

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  39. I gotta say Harden passes really well when he wants to.

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  40. That's it Lin's a scrub.. Why do I even follow this loser..can't believe he's letting bev outplay him..

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  41. We overrate Lin. If he can't even play better than his backup, he deserves to rot on the bench.

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    1. I feel ya.. Why da fuck we here cheering for this scrub.. Guess McHale was proven right...guess Knicks are right. Guess SAS is right. He is a marginal player.

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    2. I wouldn't go to that extreme.

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  42. He needs get off twitter and Instagram and work on his game. He is playing like he's just happy to get money..

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    1. Dude, stop it. The guy practices all the time, practices late night. It has nothing to do with lack of practice or work ethic.

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    2. Solidz

      I know you are frustrated but pls don't call jeremy a scrub.he may be having a terrible game but that doesnt justify you calling him a scrub. This is a lin fan site who have lin supporters who are willing to support him whether he has a good or bad game, myself included.i am not delusional, if lin is not playing well, i accept that.as a fan, i would not let anyone including yourself who claims to be a lin suporter call him a scrub.so pls, let this be the last time you call him such bec you are just proving that LOH are right, and u know too well they are WRONG !

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    1. Let's see how long is his leash here.
      I'd guess 3-4 TOs.

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    2. 3-4PF before you see jlin in again

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  44. It's just so digusting without giving lin a chance...
    mc hale is just so horrible..

    Hope they can win this

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    1. Seriously.

      Lilliard has 2-14 games with 7to all the time...but he gets to play through it.

      Same with Irving and Holiday and Vazquez and every other starting PG.

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    2. They're seen as promising players. Lin is not.

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    3. lilliard also doesnt have any pg competition on the team and the coaches believe in him.

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  45. Jeremy's confidence look totally SHOT.

    He was playing so much better...but McHale didn't treat him any differently.

    A single bad quarter and he's bench meat. He just needs to keep shooting and stop over-passing. His teammates won't help him out.

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  46. Do u see his pathetic body language on the bench? He is going to be another jilian..

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  47. Maybe if they put Bev to starter and Lin to bench when the game start,Lin will be better maybe.

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  48. I hope Pacers stuff Bev... really.stuff.Bev.

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  49. Even TRob is impressing me with his moves; I think he actually can play when he just plays without thinking.

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    1. He looks awful 99% of the time. He gets to play through those rough stretches though...

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  50. wtf is this mchale sitting out lin the 1st half!!

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    1. it's ok.. asik and dmo are together with lin

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  51. I rush home to see this shit? The Rox are clearly better with bev and not Lin... He really looks like he doesn't belong..

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  52. Why is every back up PG better for this team than Lin?

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    1. Cause the coach verbally abuses the kid. There's been multiple eye witness reports from people here who attend games and see McHale treating Lin like shit.

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    2. he's been beaten down. short leash, no confidence and broken down and teammates not helping his cause (dropped passes, lack of movement, picks, etc.)

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  53. Lin needs to come in super aggressive to attack the basket when he comes in. No other way.

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  54. People, stop fighting it. You know what's going on. Lin is finished this year....this is what it's going to be rest of the year into the playoffs.

    He doesn't have what it takes to take over, and even if he did have what it takes, it'd be hard to do - I don't mean that as an insult - I mean that he isn't a ballhog, he isn't a Lebron physical freak etc etc; he won't get his stats at the expense of the team...so it just WONT HAPPEN..

    Lin needs to be in a lead guard role, his own HS coach said it best when Lin was signed to GSW. His coach said Lin is a lead guard but who knows if he can get that opportunity. Lin got it for 20 games in NYK, and honestly, he may never get it again.

    He only got it in NYK because there was a void he filled. In Houston, there is no void to fill in that role. The open role is the dependable Derek Fisher, Avery Johnson type role and Lin may in fact resent that role and sadly he doesn't do well in it trying to be the team role player.

    The other big thing I noticed is the Rockets home team TV REALLY has been pushing Beverly on TV the last few games, Spurs and Pacer game. I thought it was odd before the Spurs game they panned to Beverly and mentioned something about Beverly being integral going forward. That all comes from the Front Office...there IS something odd going on...I don't know what it is but the end result is Lin being marginalized as the playoffs near.

    I hope this is just the Rox preparing to let Lin go in the summer...I really do.

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    1. Lin must be thinking I am at the same place I was with Knicks, but the difference is I am getting paid a lot more now. Come on Lin! I never said or thought you were a super star, but I know you are a good player. Come on you can do it.

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    2. Where is Lin going to go ? We don't know. He doesn't have any control over which team he will go to ... for all we know Morey will trade him to some bottom feeding team like Charlotte or Orlando.

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    3. I've accepted everything you said but it still pisses me off.

      Lins not getting traded this summer unless its for a superstar like CP3 or if HOU feels like they've seen all they need to see in Lin and view him as a serviceable asset. Imagine them letting him go and then he breaks out with his new team again?! They'll wait until he's a scrub, then they'll replace him....but if the rumors are true, they are okay with getting rid of Lin and Asik, so who knows.

      People who think Lins getting more mins in the playoffs are delusional. We're going to see more of the same.

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  55. Not only Lin,asik played 7 mins too.

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    1. Donatas has only played 5 minutes, too.

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  56. The new roles that McHale designed for all the players backfire!
    Asik, Lin have been in for s short time.
    The team's always better with Harden giving up the ball until the coaches accept this fact.
    Those are my conclusion.

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  57. It looks like he has reverted back to his golden state days wow..

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    1. It's a rough stretch. It happens.

      It's hard because he doesn't have the long leash that most starting PGs do.

      Don't overreact from a 3-game sample. It's clear that this year is "transitional."

      What's Steve Nash averaging in LA? Ball dominant SGs kill PG stats, esp. an attacking league guard like Lin.

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  58. Maybe if he continues to do poorly he can get traded sooner. Lin is responsible too but I still believe McHale and/or front office has a bigger hand in this.

    Just sayin... This recent mess happened after Lin said that playing more minutes might have helped him on that 20+ pts per game streak.

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  59. harden is playing like shit and the coaches refuse to bench him, its almost like they have a vendetta again lin, well mchale, you fuck with lin like that you gonna have a bad time in Asia and Lin's supporter.

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    1. Donatas has also only played 5 minutes since Robinson is playing so well.

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    2. Why would McFail even care ?

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    3. He doesn't get paid by Asia. He gets paid by the Houston Rockets. He could care less if he got boo'd by Asians at a meaningless pre-season game.

      Plus in such a worthless game, Lin will play 36 minutes and score some points.

      If Lin wants to send a message & stick to what Mchale truly wants to do in real games, he should just dribble up and pass and go hide in the corner like these games we are seeing right now.

      I hope he isn't stupid enough to let them feature him in some worthless preseason games in Asia only to revert back to this worthless role we see today.

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    4. I just don't like tunnel vision. I'm pointing out reality.

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    5. Equating Lin to DMO is pretty ridiculous.

      Asik?! That makes more sense. Like I said earlier, Lin/Asik are the most replaceable starters on this team.

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  60. Lin stop clapping on the bench u loser .. U r gonna be waving towels the way this is going..

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  61. Because the plan centralized to Harden failed badly.
    The comeback started without Harden.
    When he came back in, he learns not to hog the ball.

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  62. Parsons playing badly and he's still in the game?

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  63. If the rockets rotate around Harden, they will lose the game.

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  64. screw mchale uncalled for for sitting Lin out like this when harden was worse off

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    1. Harden is far more proven than Lin in all fairness. Do you really expect Mchale to treat Harden in the exact way he treats Lin? Also, Harden is much more consistent. I'm cool with criticizing the coach, but the argument that the coach should respond to Harden the way he does to Lin isn't convincing.

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    2. Every time the game centered around Harden, everybody plays like shit.
      The best thing that can happen is w/o Harden or when Harden giving the ball.
      Of course, Lin is affected by the game plan. Who wouldn't?
      Lin is smart and he knows damn well what the coaches are doing.

      The rest is just history.
      The truth is still: when Harden dominates the game more than necessary, the rockets lose.

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  65. Okay I need to projecting my anger at Lin,.. It's McHale that im mad at. But if Lin doesn't speak up after this game..

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    1. speak up? haha, there is no speaking up. He needs to play better and ball hog, but come through on the ball hogging - a risky proposition.

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    2. Bad game to speak out on though; I would wait until I play really well and then speak out. But I feel your disappointment. However, I have nothing but praise for Bev. He plays hard every time and is motivated. That's all you can ask from him.

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    3. I just wanna see some fire in him.. He just sits there and takes all the abuse. He is a nba starter. He needs to act like one.

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  66. The leading scorers are Smith and Robinson.
    The first team Asik, DMO, Jeremy, Harden couldn't carry out the game plan. The center is supposed to be Harden and not Lin. but Lin as always will take the blame. However it doesn't help to cover the fact that centering around Harden is suicidal.
    Until Harden learns to give up the ball, the rockets will have no future.

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  67. Honestly Lin needs to stop being so careless.

    3 TOs in a little over 7 minutes is unacceptable, and the 2 back-to-back TOs ended up easy points for the Pacers on the other end.

    I can see why he was benched, but keeping him out the entire 2nd quarter is just wrong.

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    1. Yes, I agree with you. This is the chance that Mac has been waiting for, to screw LOFs.

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  68. It was bad defense by D-Mo, Asik, and Harden that got the team into a 15 point deficit. The comeback is not because Lin is off the floor, it's all because Greg Smith and T. Robinson are playing well.

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  69. Well we are seeing bev take over the starting role right before our eyes...I'm so disgusted. At McHale for being a dick. At Lin for not rising to the occasion and not speaking out against McHale.. I was going to go to sac game but forget it. This is so infuriating.

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    1. You should go to the Kings game and throw a foot long subs at McHale

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    2. This is why I would actually be not disappointed if they make Lin a back-up, because I know Bev will not play well as a starter, and it's frankly, more honest, because even when they start Lin, they treat him like a back-up. Just allow Lin to play as much minutes without Harden, I would be happy.

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    3. parsons is also far more proven than lin. so stop preaching.

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    4. oops, sorry, it isn't a reply for your posts.

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  70. McHale coached me to hold my anger. I managed not to rampage since my last post. Thank you coach McHale

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  71. The second team scored 35 out of 49 points.
    That tells u the whole story.
    The first team could not execute the game plan.
    The game plan fell through.

    The second team just played hard without the burden of the coach's game plan. They prosper. This tell you the quality of the game plan.

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  72. Lin didn't just play badly -- he looked unengaged, lacking urgency, careless, not having his head in the game. This is not even about missing shots -- that was just totally unacceptable his mindset on the court.

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    1. A mindset that rigorously and meticulously prepared by the coaching staff

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    2. At some point he needs to say eff it and just do his thing. Where has listening to McHale gotten him? On the bench watching bev man up. He is not without blame in this. He made it so easy for McHale to abuse the eff outta him.

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  73. F this shit. Rockets and McHale are gonna lose the NBA a lot of fans. I can see if Mcidiot had treated JLin fairly and with respect and then JLin deserved to be benched but this is just bullshit. I'm rooting against Rockets. In time, I will probably lose interest in NBA. Jeremy is the one who got me interested again.

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  74. obv not enough plays for Jeremy. only 8 and 7 shots last two games. He was doing so well. He needs more touches. Very dissapointing to watch him on the bench. Painful, yet we know Jeremy has fortitude and will go somewhere he can showcase his talents.

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    1. Who is gonna take him? Freaking racist league..

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  75. Ultimately Lin's downfall is that he fits the mold of the model minority, content to be a "good teammate" never voicing his displeasure or speaking up about mistreatment.

    His asian yes-man act will keep him in this position, and his religiosity will compound things even more.

    Really thought he was different, why can't he show a bit more ego and a little concern for HIMSELF for a change.

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    1. My thoughts exactly. He wants to be a good Asian Christian boy and just be a passive, team player. His willingness to accept the situation is maddening.

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    2. Yeah, there are a lot of "model minority" Asian Americans.

      They are too gutless to stand up against America when they get treated like second class citizens.

      They haven't learned anything from the Black struggle in racist America.

      If you don't stand up for yourself, you will be riding the back of the bus (or the back of the Houston Rockets' bench) your entire life.

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  76. Mchale has also sat out two other players, not just Lin. Let's keep it in perspective. At least, doing so is important for me.

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    1. Bamboo, I like your attitude. Man, I don't care how much you get paid; I feel bad for Lin. After Harvard won one NCAA game, Lin's swagger disappeared. I really thought he realized he's good and will play at higher and higher level. Wow, I am really speechless, let alone disappointed.

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    2. I see the same thing, Bamboo.
      Asik, Lin, DMo were benched because they didn't seem to make an impact on defense and offense.

      McHale went with the hot hands so I can understand that.
      It's a pity that Lin's leash is short like other role players and his confidence is at the low point but only he can come out aggressive on offense or defense so coaches can't afford to bench him.

      Bev played very well with T-Rob, GSmith, Harden lineup so Lin would need to make a drastic impact in the 2nd half when Bev needs a breather.

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    3. I disagree with Bamboo. Lin is a 3rd year player, not some rookie scrub. Those Lin fans who call him "a virtual rookie" when Lin has a bad game are crazy. He is a 3rd year player. He is 24, not 19.

      Whether Linsanity was a reaction to the surprise of seeing a little Asian guy dominate a physical American sport or not, it happened and thus, more is expected out of Lin. Asik, while getting paid the same, didn't shine prior to this season in Chicago and he looks like a bumbling stooge at time.

      So if you want to compare Lin to a bumbling stoog and Dmo, then really, Lin is just a 2nd rate scrub.



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    4. swingline, I would equate Lin with a 2nd year player, to be fair, but definitely not "a virtual rookie"; that's an excuse.

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    5. I can accept 2nd year player, but you also have to face reality and Lin is 24 and Lillards, Kyrie's etc all get to monopolize the ball on their teams and are the go to guys unlike Lin....he has to fight for it

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  77. thanks to Patrick and mchell im not a rocket fan anymore

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  78. If there's bright spot to the game it's that Houston is losing.

    Houston, YOU have a problem.

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  79. That 1st quarter is not a good case for criticizing McHale. Lin played like absolute shit and should have been benched. Lin wasn't the only one, but by any measure, Lin was bad. And I'm 100% certain Lin would agree he played badly.

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  80. Will Bev be rewarded and start the second half or will Lin get the token start with Bev finishing the game (when it matters most/if the game is close)?

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  81. 1 of 10 shot is really an off-night.

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  82. Did you notice if Harden scored any point since checking in?

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  83. Go Pacers... hope Vogel already made adjustments to Bev's game

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  84. Wow Lin looks like he has nothing.what we are seeing is just a shell of his former self..

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  85. The only good thing that Harden did was getting fouled and giving up the ball to others.
    Harden definitely needed to take a lesser role for the team to grow, which is contrary to the coaches' game plan.

    The second team fought hard and help the team get back but with Harden, the team soon would be falling even worse.

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  86. I truly believe Lin will end up a Laker, if not soon (via a Gasol trade), then by 2015.

    I think Les will regret letting him go when Lin turns it on in a new setting with a green light to shine. But the Rox will be a more experienced and better rounded team so Les cant be too mad at Morey for letting Lin go again, as the Rox will be decent with or without Lin.

    The Rox wanted Lin to be their "budget all star" as Khuang termed. But when they got Harden, Lin became the red-headed step child on the team.

    Morey and Mchale have EVERY reason to make Lin look bad and look like a scrub. I really hope Lin finds a way to push through and keep himself relevant the best he can in limited minutes and a limited role.

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  87. His fall from grace is just as quick as his rise to stardom. We are seeing reverse Linsanity right before our eyes...

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  88. McHale is dumbfuck shortsighted coach.

    If he coached Lin during Linsanity, there would have never been Linsanity, because he would have pulled Lin after he made a couple of turnovers.

    Lin had EIGHT fucking turnovers in his breakout game against Utah. He also scored 27 points.

    Not only that, playing Beverly 16 straight minutes?????? WTF? If you do this, stop the pretense of treating Lin as the starter, and make Beverly the starter, and then you McHale fucking take accountability for whatever happens when you do tha.

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  89. Anyway, DMo, Asik, Lin, Parson,Harden all were playing horrible in the first half. Therefore that first team executing the game plan tells us that

    The game plan sucks!!

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  90. The fact is that Lin's game really suffers when the refs allow physical play. Ppl reach in to cause turnovers, and will hammer him in the paint. If the reffing continues like this, Lin is going to have a hard time. Lin also does not play aggressive defense, since he's been conditioned by NBA officiating to never touch anyone for fear of ticky tack bullshit.

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  91. Okay, Jeremy looks better already...

    ...getting some screens. Forcing a steal.

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    1. Lin missed a shot. Beverly ready to come in.

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  92. The key of coaching is to find the winning combination.
    At present, the coaches have been turning away from a winning team to losing.

    The winning combination is when Harden is taking a less role rather than shadowing the whole team.

    If McHale wants, he could bench Asik, Lin, DMo for the whole game. That just prove that he can't use the players properly.

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  93. some weird stuff from the Rox commentators. Lin made 2 nice passes to Asik and NO MENTION OF JLIN in any way. I am not talking about complimenting him, they just don't even acknowledge he is on the court...

    Like I said, something odd is going on from the Rox FO...

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    1. I also noticed that. As if Lin had nothing at all do with the play. Weird.

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    2. they are trying to convince everyone PBEV is the answer. Just you wait when PBEV comes in.

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  94. When Lin is the PG, the rockets prosper.

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  95. The commentator must have had some pressure from the management. They know they are not supposed to do that unless they want to be rid of.

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  96. Still poor shooting of the first team.

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  97. The shot will be there once they get their confidence back

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  98. JLin played like 12 straight good to great games; and he has a lull of 2 games. If JLin has your knee jerk reaction as some of you guys, he wouldn't of made it this far.

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  99. Beverly didn't do shit the whole 4th quarter.

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