Wednesday, March 20, 2013

Rockets vs Jazz Game #68 2nd Half Game Thread

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  1. Lin got subbed out at the 4:23 mark. McHale is trying to break the momentum and trying to give the Jazz a chance to catch up.

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    1. lol... you never know with mchale...

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    2. Lin was on obvious fire in the 3Q. It was really obvious Harden got scared/annoyed/recognized that Linsanity might rear its head and tried to dominate the ball so Lin wouldn't go off too badly so Harden could maintain "the man" status.

      Lin has to pretty much play like 70% of the time and he will be showcasing his skills to teams around the NBA for his next contract.

      I hope his poor games earlier this year were just his knee and trying to fit in with a new team. I think Lin is almost where he needs to be entering the playoffs.

      Handcuffed or not, low minutes/ usage or not, Lin has really turned it on. If he keeps this up, big things will come for Lin during this contract or his next.


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  2. 18/5 in 22 minutes is outstanding. CP3-style domination.

    He might be done for the night if this lead holds up. Which is fine.

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    1. McHale said I will put an end to Lin stat padding.

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    2. LOL. We've seen it before, but tonight is a good time to sit.

      At least Jeremy's fresh legs will be valuable down the stretch and in the playoffs. If Houston advances past the first round, it'll be because Jeremy took over.

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    3. Agree with zxcvb! Lin did his thing, looked good and contributed big time. Its garbage time. Time to let the superheros rest and let the others get some PT.

      Yes - Lin could improve his average pts but why risk injury when the game is basicly won?

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  3. T-Rob with his first score after overpowering Millsap. Lead is back up to 20 points.

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    1. T-Rob with his 2nd great move and score for tonight. Power dunking on the PnR.

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  4. I spoke too soon. Miami just tied the game with Cleveland. 10 minutes left in the 4th quarter. They were down as much as 26 points in the 3rd.

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    1. San Antonio is beating up on GSW tonight.

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    2. Lol lebron playing with cle emotion again.

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    1. Really don't be a dick. I don't care if u don't play Lin. Just sit harden ..

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  6. I am so impressed with JLin. Rox are foolish not only to ignore his play, but to not feature him. Like the article said: "Why is it so hard for McHale to feature Jeremy?"

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    1. Chris Baldwin article "Jeremy Lin Shackling hurts the Rockets: treated almost with Tim Tebow disdain" - http://houston.culturemap.com/newsdetail/03-18-13-jeremy-lin-shackeling-hurts-the-rockets-almost-treated-with-tim-tebow-disdain/

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    2. Yeah - they treat him like CHINA! <- JOKE!

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    3. You are a racist! You hate everyone on this forum!

      = P

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    4. Yes! Racism! AGGHHHH!

      hee hee

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    5. it wasn't me, willydilly, but I wish it was.

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  7. ISO in the end of the quarter plus a foul for harden

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  8. Fouling Burks with 0.3 seconds at the end of the 3rd quarter ... Seriously how low does basketball IQ have to be to do that ??

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  9. I wonder if McBail will get on Harden's case for fouling his man with 0.3 second left in the 3rd quarter.

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  10. A very stupid foul of Harden at the last second.
    Out of his mind.

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  11. Imagine JLin missed a shot and followed with a dumb defensive move? Mchale will sit Jlin indefinitely and yell at him all the way to his postgame comment, but since it was J Harden, it's normally ok. Talking about fair treatnent, don't make me laugh.

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  12. I love how Lin is playing recently. He is just daring McHale to sit him. Tonight could've been a night where bev could've taken more min, but Lin is like go ahead McHale, sit me u dumbass., I'm just gonna be me.

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  13. As long as Lin plays like this, I have NO COMPLAINTS with Mchale or the Rox.

    Because soon enough, people will bomb on Mchale INCLUDING the Houston media, fans, and Front Office as to wtf is going on with Lin's handcuffing in usage and minutes.

    Lin just has to play at this level the rest of the year and into the playoffs. People WILL go WTF?

    Again, I believe Morey is a big part of the reason Lin is being kept down so Harden/Parsons can shine. I suspect Mchale has his doubts about Lin AND the Rockets FO probably hinted it's ok to keep Lin down at the expense of having Harden and Parsons shine so Morey can look like a GM wizard and get that contract extension for himself and then he can resign Mchale to a longer contract, quid pro quo.

    Really Lin is to be commended for his play lately. I hope he keeps it up long term. He just needs consistency. He plays great then not so great. He needs to keep up the level of play no matter how he is handcuffed.

    I am seriously 100% impressed with Lin lately. KEEP IT UP LIN.

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  14. No Lin = boring
    But he will have a good rest.

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  15. Lin might not come back to this game if the Rockets keep this lead.

    McHale just want to pad Parsons and Beverley's stats now lol so he has more options to sit Lin in future games.

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  16. McHale got nervous with the bench and called a time out after Patrick Beverly committed a foul. Lin is back in with Harden and starting line up.

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  17. First team coming back!
    About time now

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  18. Anybody else was pulling for the jazz so Lin can return? Don't kill me:)

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    1. *raises hand*

      You're not alone! I was fine with Lin sitting but it's more fun to watch him play.

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  19. Come on Lin. At least score 2 more to continue the 20 point streak!

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  20. Is there another no call foul on Lin?

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  21. McHale is a dumb dumb coach. Instead of putting the nail in the coffin he decides to take Lin out and put in his bench who played well in the 1st half. Now that the lead has been cut down to 10 points McHale is panicking.

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    1. Also, the refs did not give Lin a foul call when it is clear that he got fouled on his drive to the basket.

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  22. I really doubt McHale's rotation.
    He let the first team on the bench too long.

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  23. Wow I thought this game was over. Mchale is an idiot. Lin was on OBVIOUS 3rd Q fire...but he let Harden dominate the ball and then subbed Lin out. They could have just killed the Jazz in the 3Q but instead, now they have a 10pt game....

    That was honestly pretty sad by Mchale. But he's gotten away with it in the past..

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  24. Wow what happened to the lead, did 2nd team blow it?

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    1. You missed it too? I didnt watch cause I thought Lin wouldnt play.

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  25. Here we go again. They always go to harden when things get close.

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  26. I thought Lin was taken out in the third because he got his 3rd foul. But now he's back in the 4th when it counts most.

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    1. So what does the 3rd foul mean? McHale put Harden in the start of the 2nd quarter when he picked up his 2nd foul.

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    2. 2 and 3 fouls are two different animals. Lin's fouled out before.

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    3. How is 3 fouls significant towards the middle of the 3rd quarter? It's half of your fouls and you are already into the 3rd and going to the 4th quarter. I don't see that as huge as picking up 2 fouls in the 1st quarter and then coming out in the 2nd quarter. If you pick up another foul then you can't play at all in the 2nd quarter.

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    4. When you get 3 fouls I think you become a target... players try to lure you into even more fouls. Lin's had a tendency in the past to get lots of fouls and if my memory serves me right, he's fouled out at least two times this season and that's without playing tons of minutes. I'm not necessarily saying Mchale's decision is correct, but I think that was what triggered the sub. Also, bear in mind, that when you have 3 fouls and you're getting closer to the fourth, that third foul is more critical: Being in the entirety of the 4th quarter is more paramount than being in prior to that time frame and then fouling out. Again, not saying Mcahel's decision was right, but coaching is more complex than it appears...... and I don't think Mchale sees every player the same: Lin has, in the past, had a tendency to get a lot of fouls.

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  27. Since the starters returned, every play was run for iso Harden at the top. So boring to watch.

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    1. Called a timeout and guess what McHale told them to do, "run the same shit" , furtunately Harden got bailed out on the foul call.

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  28. Wow Rox playing like garbage right now.

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    1. Yikes.

      Jeremy getting hammered too...no calls. He has to take over. No more of this unselfishness/leadership, lol.

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  30. Harden is really scared to pass to Lin today. He knows Linsanity is around the corner and doesn't want to let Lin look like the star...

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    1. He's making Marcus "hesitation" look clutch.

      It's Harden, Lin, and Delfino time (Parsons, too).

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    2. And that was a good attempt at a steal by Lin just now.

      If he got into serious foul trouble with knucklehead plays like that first quarter swipe at the ball, he looses all of his aggressiveness in crunch time.

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  32. Lol how many times they gunna have DMo chuck up 3s? This is sad.

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  33. According to boxscore Lin is the best shooter tonight?!

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  34. Take DMO out!
    McHale you are such a moron

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  35. We have our dear Lin to save the day.

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  36. Jeremy took it to the hoop and got 20 points tonight.

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  37. This is why you're suppose to keep Lin OR Harden on the floor at all times.

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  38. Of course he pays them back with another bucket.

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    1. He turned it over trying to be unselfish and make the pass in transition.

      ...but he decided to "hog" the ball right after and got two easy buckets.

      His biggest problem right now is that he's way too unselfish. Always trying to get his teammates involved even when he's the one who's on fire.

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  39. Lin with another superb drive going left and help jarring the ball loose from Jefferson on the other end. Too bad it bounced off of Asik's big (__I__)

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  40. McHale is such a moron. He should take DMO out sooner.
    Remember DMO has never earned his starting. It's just given to him.
    Gosh. I'd rather you start some else.

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  41. Lin scream on every tough lay up lol

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  42. I don't know bout you but I'm feeling 22.. Lin should start singing that. Or he can go for 24

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  43. What happened? Lin had a fast break layup, but he stops in the middle of the lane and has the ball stolen away ... Why ??

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    1. He stopped to tie his laces a la GS?

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    2. He was being too unselfish.

      He was trying to find a teammate since he scored right before, but no one was open (they were probably expecting him to shoot) and Jazz poked it away from behind.

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  44. As far as I am concerned, DMO should be a backup.
    He still has a long way to go.

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  45. That was a bad TO by Lin, he shouldnt have paused. He should learn from that mistakes. I dont mind TO based on fast transaction.

    ANyways, he had played well and stayed aggressive. 10 Pt lead is kinda dissapointing, though. CP is way too silent...

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  46. Awesome! Lin to Parsons for the dunk!!

    Linsanity is back, baby!

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  47. For stats purposes, I need Lin to get one more assist .

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  48. Ah that bounce pass was sick man. It's bucked sick.

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  49. Parsons .. SHOULD .. NOT handle the BALL!!!

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  50. Haha, Rockets golden boy Parsons finally got to 10 points. A future star?! Lol.

    Hayward is so much better than Parsons it's not even funny and Hayward is not even an all star.

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    1. Parsons has had plenty of 20+ games this season and has been incredibly consistent and a significant part of the Rocket's record to this point. You are a genuine Parson's hater. You sound exactly like people who criticize Jeremy Lin when he has a bad game... except what's really lame about your comment is that Parson's didn't even have a bad game. Truthfully, I don't really care whether Parson's becomes a star or not, but what separates us, Cara, is you actually yearn for Parson's to do poorly where I just try to take an honest look at the game. You're really no different from a Lin hater except you focus your attention on another player.

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    2. Yeah, everybody on this board knows that Cara is very affectionate towards Parsons.

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    3. Ain't nothing wrong with not being a Parsons fan.

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    4. KHuang, yes.... but be intellectually honest: There is a difference between *not* being a Parson's fan which is completely cool... and being a Parson's hater. There is a clear distinction between the two. And yes, there is also nothing wrong with being a Parson's hater... but there is ALSO nothing wrong with me calling someone out on it.

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    5. IMHO, Cara doesn't hate on Parsonns, rather, she is hating on McHale's decision to play him huge mins over Lin despite his dismal performance. It's the same like we complain about Har_en's lackadaisical defense but still not held accountable by McHale.

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    6. whadja expect on a LIN fansite???!!

      it's all good.

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    7. L Kim, I disagree. I think that Cara actually desires Parson's to play bad. If you don't feel that constitutes a hater, then I have nothing else to say with all due respect.

      KHuang, She was specifically directing that statement at *ME* since I have mentioned earlier that I think Parson's has the potential to become a star. Had someone said something that you believed was directed at you, you would also speak up, would you not? Let's keep it real.

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    1. That was a great block although many players would have gotten the FTs (Favors bumped him with the body in the restricted area).

      Jeremy was 9-13 despite getting screwed over by refs 5-6 different times. Only one 50/50 call in his favor all night...and it hurt him because they took away an Asik dunk/assist.

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  52. asik getting worked

    favors blocks lin

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  53. lol not sure how that was a defensive foul but whatever works :D

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  54. Game over.

    GG Jazz, they tried on a McHale that fell asleep.

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  55. CP didn't know who to give ball to after the steal... Lin or Harden. He gives it to Lin then Harden takes it from Lin.

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    1. Lin handed the ball to Harden because Harden is perfect from the line tonight and the Jazz would have thought twice about fouling Harden.

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    2. I would say that is a very cerebral move for Lin.

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    3. That might be true, but it wasn't that Lin handed the ball to Harden of his on volition. Harden first asked CP for the ball. After CP passed to Lin, Harden then asked Lin for the ball.

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  56. It's in the bag. The Rockets held on to win against the Jazz. Although it had to take the starters coming back in to do the job. McHale was about to have a seizure after all his bad rotations.

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    1. He has given too much time to Beverly
      The first line sits on the bench too long.
      They cool off and the shot may stop falling.
      McHale is a little retarded.

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  57. I blame the late surge on McHale.
    He let Lin sit on the bench for too long.

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  58. Excellent man-to-man D by Lin on Burks so he gave up the ball before Harden's steal

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  59. The impact of losing Patterson, TD, Morris is quite obvious.
    Morey has made a big mistake in trading away the players.

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    1. I wouldn't say that. I like T-Rob and Garcia. With Patterson and Morris you know that they have reached their ceiling. With T-Rob you don't know yet. He has shown flashes of being good.

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    2. I don't think PPat reach his ceiling.
      They are still young.
      In rockets' rotation, you don't often have the opportunity to play well with the ball hogging Harden emerge in more than needed.
      The team chemistry is quite different from now.
      The team score goes down when they left.
      The trade is a flop!!!
      The future is told but probably will likely never turn out.
      Morey Moron is responsible for destroying the team chemistry.
      The damage is from 30 points up to 30 points down when playing with GS.

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    3. Houston players always make McHell and Morey look good though they are not so good.

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  60. Great defense by Lin there.

    Cut off penetration and forced the pass.

    Just like D-League, Lin effect on D is that he takes away possessions from other team (steals, rebounds, deflections) and prevents other team from getting a score.

    Reminds me of what he did to John Wall in closing seconds of Washington game they eventually lost.

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    1. "Lin effect on D is that he takes away possessions from other team (steals, rebounds, deflections) and prevents other team from getting a score."

      Don't forget CHARGES as well. He stopped a 3-on-1 break the other game with a charge.

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    2. Very true.

      Sometimes he dislodges ball but someone else gets credit for steal, too.

      Also gotta give props to Harden. He was unstoppable in second quarter and opened up court for Jeremy in third quarter.

      Crunch time leaders / playmakers are, as always, James and Jeremy, with Delfino and Parsons and crunch time 3 point shooters. Hope DMo can gain confidence and contribute in crunch time, but he really hurt team last two games.

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  61. Lin was the MVP of the game (as usual for the past two months).

    Well done, Jeremy. Harden stat-padding with end-game FTs, lol.

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    1. Now Jeremy gets to stat-pad a little! Heh.

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  62. "I take half court shot now Jeremy Lin is getting close."
    -James Hogden, #13

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  63. Now the announcers are praising Lin. Worrell said he is proud of Lin after taking so much criticism from the talk shows and media. Awwww...what a love fest.

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  64. I'm liking Lin FTs to close the game out.
    Reminiscent of Linsanity time.

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  65. Why did Parsons and Harden play 38 minutes and Lin only 29 minutes?

    Harden had foul trouble and Parsons scored only 10 points and got lit up by Hayward all night long but both still ended up getting so many more minutes than Lin. What rationale is this?

    McHale couldn't use the Parsons is so much a better option than Lin excuse now.

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    1. Because we don't have any decent forwards left.
      Thanks to the butterfinger trading Morey Moron.

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    2. Dmo has 4 3FGA? WTF? = D

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    3. McHale hasn't read CF yet that Lin's knee is back 100% :D

      They just want Parsons to develop into the 3rd star even with so many ball-handling mistakes that could have been costly.

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    4. Sometimes i think Parson is trying to mimic the guards. He is like, i can be like Lin or Harden., watch me... Oooppppss damn lost the ball

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    5. I think they want Parsons to be the 2nd star, right?

      They certainly don't see Lin as a star. Certainly no coach could be justified to play a star who produces only 30 minutes in such a big game.

      Fortunately, what they want and force feed dosn't neccesarily what the reality is.

      This game clearly proved there are only 2 prime time players on this team, Lin and Harden. Parsons and the rest are not.

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    6. To be fair - the coach has allowed Lin to close games lately. You can see Lins impact and contribution even if his PT is limited. The coaches still treat him like CHINA but... I see improvement.

      Lin and Harden are kind of reliable. The bench isnt. The bench (PB) needs to play in order to get in play off shape. Well well...

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    7. Because Mchale's a fucking idiot and doesn't see a big drop off from Lin to Bev, so he is willing to share mins between them.

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  66. The game is closer than the score showed.
    They just let Hayward do whatever he pleased.
    The back court is carrying the team and DMO is...

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  67. Jazz are playing the garbage minutes, as though they are in playoff, this is what Rox coaching need to learn!

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  68. Great game by Lin. Houston has the best back courts in NBA

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  69. DMO is really killing us. We'd be much more dangerous with ppat.

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    1. DMO should try to sit on the bench and win his job as a starter.
      The stupid trade that Morey Moron did has been nothing but empty words.
      We lost the fire power from our forwards. We lost TD.

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    2. Also got rid of their powerless game.

      I'll take the size and athleticism over the pansy outside shooting of powerless forwards.

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  70. No way Rockets are going to get past first round of playoff; just hope they make it there.

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  71. Lin now played really well for the last 4 games. Great job.

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  72. McHale still doesn't have a good feel for the game, enough to make timely substitutions. This is going to kill us in the long run.

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    1. The substitution pattern has not been working well lately.

      It's going to kill us in the playoff against good teams like Spurs, OKC, Clippers who can exploit matchups easily. Before you know it, they'll be down 10-15 :(

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    2. He either keep guys in too long or takes them out too early. This has been a problem all year. And what da hell happened to parson? Is it him or have the def adjusted?

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    3. McHale should have at least one of Lin and Harden on the court at all time. It's been beaten to death but McHale still doesn't get it. He still puts Parsons only with the bench and it's so much a fail.

      He actually tried that a few times before and the team was winning. But he suddenly abandoned it since Beverley entered the rotation and the team hasn't played really well since.

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  73. DMO is clearly not ready for the big time Basketball yet.
    Perhaps he should go to the D-league.

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    1. He has absolutely no business leaving the paint.

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    2. TRob in his 17 minutes is better than DMO's 26 minutes.
      Not that TRob is good, just DMO is much worse.

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    3. For a while, the Lin-DMo connection was great but we didn't see it lately?

      Did DMo try to run any PnR plays with Lin or Harden today? I only started watching the 4Q.

      His spin moves were quite effective before.

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    4. Dmo has to run to towards the rim to be effective.

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  74. The team score is below average.

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  75. If DMO made those open threes, this game wouldn't have been so close. These are shots ppat would've made. He needs to step or get out. If DMO can't pick it up, we r gonna have a huge problem in the PF position. My goodness!

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    1. I don't think your PF shouldn't shoot 3 points from the arch in the first place unless your PF is Kevin Love, Ryan Anderson, Steve Novak, or Matt Boner

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    2. Love it or hate it ... That's Morey ball ... big men turned into jump shooters ... it's not gonna change.

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  76. I would still rate, the overall game for ROX as a team, was bad. They just cant continue to play in this manner against playoff team.

    Too many TOs, the rest of the team are not contributing, they seem to only contribute TO. Delfino is certainly not feeling his 3s, including CP. PB played well for this game.

    The team need to pickup their pace and passing/cut where needed in order to run if they were to sustain their win against bigger team.

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  77. My prediction for the remainder of the regular season.

    Lin will score 15-20 pts by 4th quarter.

    Harden will spend all 4th quarter trying to beat Lin's score by going ISO.

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    1. And Lin still plays 30-32min/game while doing so.

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    2. Yup if Rox is ahead in 4th quarter, Harden will be given more minutes than Lin to play stat padder.

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    3. lol

      The nice thing about Hardens iso (and the resulting fts) is that it interupt the game - not just the teams but the opponents as well. By turning 2pt games into 3pt or shooting the fts he closes the deal (like Harden AND Lin did today).

      This has worked so many times. Lets be honest - if it was Lin going iso all the time we would cheer :) Of course - it doesnt work if Harden doesnt score AND doesnt get the calls.

      The only thing Harden has to learn is -> if you are behind, time is running out and you havent been getting any calls -> stop it!

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    4. And learn how not to cool off the hot shooters on your own friggin team!

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  78. On the positive side, Lin's therapeutical shooting practice during his day off produced 24pts/6asts in just 30 min (lowest of HOU starters) and 9-13 FG.

    Not too shabby :D

    Parsons on the other hand had 0-4 3PT FG with his Alicia Keys therapy. And that horrible TO at the end of the game. He needs to join his buddy Lin during his day off.

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    1. Lin was 9/12 fga -> 75% -> not shabby at all!

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    2. If he hadn't had those 2 layups blocked .... He could've been 11/12 shooting. He needs to use the Eurostep more instead of letting defenders time their jump to block his shot.

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    3. Well he had a lay up drill. I still think he doesn't completely trust his j especially in crunch times. Didn't anyone else notice him hesitating a bit when he has an open look in the 4th quarter?

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  79. Looks like Warriors are going to lose to the Spurs

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  80. Golden State Warriors are going to lose the San Antonio. Tim Duncan led his team after GSW cut the lead down to 5 points with 2 minutes left.

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    1. Duncan, like Lin, is a big time player! :-D

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  81. With Jeremy's playing so well, but on NBA website, Jeremy is the only one with -3, the rest are all >= 0

    how could that be?

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    1. Forget it. Sometimes the team is leading by 30 and EVERY player is -50.

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    2. There was a stretch in 2nd half when Lin sat on the bench, Harden went absolutely crazy.

      And the Jazz tried to make a comeback in 4th and it screwed Lin's +/- somewhat.

      This +/- didn't really tell the story.

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    3. +/- is not really good indicator, just check last game and guess who is the only Rocket play with +?


      T-Mo

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    4. The PT also helped to tell the story. Parsons and Harden had +0 and +7 in 38 min. Lin had -3 in only 30 min.

      Both Harden and Parsons played 8 more min where they had a runup on the +.

      But Lin came back in 4Q but Jazz was making a run as Cara said so his +7 became -3 as 17pt lead became only 7pt win in the end.

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    5. I see, thanks, psalm234.

      As you guys mentioned, it's not a good indicator, then imho it should be replaced by better ones, shouldn't it?

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  82. I have been saying that not that GS improves but the rockets is simply not the same team anymore. TROB can't step in for PPat and DMO was essentially horrible.
    We have a big hole in PFs and SG, and scorings with TD and PPat + Morris are gone forever.

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  83. Lol. So an Asian reporter asked Jeremy why he is playing so well... And after pausing.. He said to the effect of maybe it's because I'm getting MORE MINUTES... A subtle dig at McHale?? Well played Jeremy well played.

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  85. S. Curry shoots A LOT. Must be nice.

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    1. @k.smith. - r u the one that indicated about Lin's shooting form? Do u see anything Different now?

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  86. One bone to pick with Jeremy is that he still looks hesitant to shoot. There were few possessions at the end wher he could've pulled up and shot but he decided to drive the lane where he missed the lay up or got blocked.

    He needs to get over this because he is shooting well. He needs to trust his j ESP when u have a shot blocker in the paint.

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    1. he was warned by the coaches not to outsource the beard, maybe? :-)

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  87. The Rockets won but they actually didn't really play well this game. Apart from Harden's a scoring in 2nd quarter and Lin at the end of the game, no one other players played well.

    If they put up this kind of performance against a bit better team, it's a sure fire loss. The next few opponents are all tough except Cavs. If they don't improve this performance level, they still have a long way to go to make the playoffs. Even if they make the playoffs, it's likely a 1st round sweep.

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    1. Yeah what de hell happened to the rest of the team? Delfino continues to be erratic. Parson's missing a lot of open looks ( he needs to stop trying to drive the lane... Dude is not a guard), DMO is a clear liability... The rest of the team really has to step up.

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  88. TROB/DMO have to step up! Dmo can't make FT! Why their GM traded PPAT/TD/MM away at the middle of regular season? We lost better scorers. Is it an upgrade or downgrade? Can Aron Brooks back up Lin when playoff time comes? They didn't play a good game tonight as a team. Rockets still have tough time making playoffs. Lin played last few games well at home court. Hopefully, he will keep going like this on games away from now on.

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