Friday, March 1, 2013

Rockets @ Magic Game #60 Post Game Thread

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  1. One of the main reasons Lin chose to talk to Rockets was because of he believed it was point guard, PnR friendly system, but what Lin didn't know at the time was that it was Adeleman's system. Because of the lockout, McHale didn't have time to install his/Finch's system.

    Lowry improved under Adeleman, and not because of McHale. He only played the first half of last season before getting injured. Again McHale didn't work with Lowry because of the lockout.

    Dragic improved last year was because he worked with Nash during his years in Arizona. Again because of the lockout, McHale didn't have time to train or teach Dragic. Dragic looked great last year was because of the system and not because of McHale. Lowry loved playing for Adeleman.

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    1. I don't know about the recent history of the Rockets, but if this is true, this is why I would still want Lin with the Lakers, although obviously this would only happen in my wildest dreams. I'm also biased since Lakers are my hometown team. Anyhow, whether you hate or love the Lakers, I believe he could learn from Nash and he would build his confidence.

      Although I remember KHuang is totally against this and I understand. I've been watching Nash more, and the game last night was interesting. Nash and Blake essentially split the minutes, and Nash was doing his thing. BUT, Nash was still in in the 4th, as it should be. Also, both Nash and D'Antoni have acknowledged that Nash is taking a backseat and relegating himself for the sake of the team.

      http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8998874/steve-nash-regret-joining-los-angeles-lakers-according-report

      Nash was able to establish himself and get respect, one way or another, and was lucky to have been with D'Antoni (I don't know the history), and become what he has become. However, Lin is unable to build this kind of track record under McHale thus far, and it seems like he will never be able to with McHale if things continue this way. So, people look at Nash and say he is taking one for the team, but not when they look at Lin. Lin never had a chance. I know others have said that Lin has to seize his time and be aggressive and be selfish, because no matter how he performs the consequences for him are the same. That's easier said than done. It's easy to preach when you're not the one that has to do it. And with Lin, he ultimate goal is about winning. He has a greater purpose in mind, and in the end, I respect that integrity.

      My thing about Lin is that I think even if he were traded to a crappy team, if any of the players had some talent, I think Lin would elevate that team.

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    2. @cali7 - imho, once Jeanie and Phil get married and Jeanie is reinstated in her previous post (fire her dumb brother!) Phil might have a say on the management decisions, will ask to fire D'Antoni, hire one of his men (I'm guessing Shaw)as coach and influence Kupchak to get Jeremy.

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    3. It doesn't matter where Lin is traded, as long as he is allowed to play point guard, he will elevate his teammates and will help the team wins more games.

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    4. McHale's habit of pouncing and preying on Lin in the 3rd quarter.

      There have been NUMEROUS games where Lin did well in the first half, but in the 3rd quarter he was a non-factor, and then McFail yanked him out for the rest of the game.... or McFail waits until Lin makes a mistake in the 3rd Q (in tonight's case, Lin's 2nd TO of the game), then right after that McFail yanked him out for good. The only time Lin played again is when the backup played really bad; if the backup played mildly bad, he was given a lot more time, unless there was only a few minutes left in the game. In another words, after Lin starts the game, he is treated like a backup and the backup is treated like a starter (it used to be like that with Douglas, and now it's like that with Beverley), so Lin stops playing aggressive for fear of any more mistakes.

      I don't know what kind of confidence-killing "pep talk" McFail or his sidekicks give Lin during half time, but it's been clear to me for a long time that McFail would like Lin to be a backup. I think the motive is more political than racial with McHale because I think it was McHale's decision to waive Lin (since Morey hardly ever saw Lin practice with the team at the time). But I bet the motive is racial with Sampson, who treated Lin exactly the same way during McHale's absence.... Did you know that for 2011-12 season, the Rockets kept Jonny Flynn (instead of Lin) as a 3rd string PG for $3.4 million salary? Flynn now plays in Australia.

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  2. I feel so sad after reading all the posts. I hope JLIN just go and play his brand of basket ball. Remember? JLin said to himself before when Linsanity started that if he had a chance to play, he will play HIS BRAND of basket ball.

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  3. If trying to fit in doesn't work, just not to try I guess. What's the worst consequence? Get fired? Is there such a thing for NBA player?

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    1. maybe not get fired, but more time on the bench...

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    2. So essentially it's a no loss situation for him.

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    3. How many NBA players put up 38 points in such a short time? Lin can play. Lin can ply. Yes, just play it, so what, bench? If bench is the destination either way, just play Lin's brand of basket ball. No regret.

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    4. Put on the inactive list and traded in the off-season. "Firing" a player is essentially waiving, but they would still owe Lin the remainder on his contract and it would count against the cap or they can use the new rule and just pay what they owe him over X years.

      Hypothetically speaking, the Rockets and Lin could negotiate in a buy-out as well. Lin probably just gets traded if the Rockets end up deciding that he's not a good fit.

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  4. since the previous thread is so "heart drowning", in this thread, i will just say something "positive".->Rockets win. and now I need to go watch some funny movies/shows to forget the fridge.

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  6. Yeah. This is lame. Lin was on pace to have one of the most magnificent and exciting careers and now it is has been derailed - at least for this year.

    This is almost getting to be too much for me. I think I will exercise/lift weights every time I think McHale misuses Lin. Not sure if I can watch these games any more.

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    1. I know ... I have felt this way multiple times this year and then Lin teases us with another great game. I will continue to watch but really this destroys my night.

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    2. Yeah, same. He busts out just a week ago, is used correctly, and then all in the world is right.

      I hate being in this cycle.

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    3. That is it. Why does McHale continue to ignore games where Lin excels at? I wish Lin was playing for the bobcats, playing a true pg. this year has been so frustrating to endure.

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  7. McFridge's freezer just keep getting colder. Lin was hot @1st quarter but freezed after 9+ minutes of benching. Thank you Kevin McHale

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  8. That is for me. I will not going to watch any Rox game utile McHale got fired or Jemery Lin really play true PG. See you guys again until that day then.

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    1. see you when hell freezes over! lol.

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  9. He is getting some rest for Sunday.

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  10. That is for me. I will not going to watch any Rox game utile McHale got fired or Jemery Lin really play true PG. See you guys again until that day then.

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    1. i've already done that for a while and i guess i'll just have to continue not watching , except for some JLin's highlight vids.

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  11. McHale will use every excuse to take Lin out of the game for extended periods of time. Lin should not give him any damn excuses.

    Smh, remember in July, most of you people were jumping for joy that JLin signed with the Rockets, thinking they would build this team around him and let him run it.... well look at us now :( We were tricked into believing Morey and Mchale's lies.

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    1. Yeah, I thought this could be very good. Who knew McHale was way worse than Woodson. Woodson is a saint compared to McHale.

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    2. I didn't follow this forum then, but I was one of those that was sadden that the Knicks didn't match.

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    3. NYK fans won't allow Lin to be treated this way. Unlike these moronic rockets fans who now think bev is cp3

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    4. Any Jeremy casual won't let mcclueless do that to Jeremy.

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    5. On Clutchfans they are now hailing Beverly for MVP...

      They also want to trade Lin for Monta Ellis after that ONE buzzer beater game vs. Monta.

      Rockets fans = bandwagon fanboys.

      I've been following Lin since 3rd year @ Harvard ... I know he is better than this and deserves way better than this. The system is holding him down like a ball and chain in those old prison movies.

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    6. I hope CP3 gets traded to Helltown and we will see two ball dominant and egotist players fighting for the one ball. I'll celebrate if Howard comes over too. Howard is a diva and a mental midget will cry and soak if he doesn't get touches. Do it Morey!

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    7. I have watched every game since the nets game last year. I was a skeptic first but came to realize this kid can really pay. I never thought in million years that he would be in this situation after leaving the Knicks. This was supposed to be his year to prove all the naysayers wrong. This is worst possible situation for him.

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    8. CF people said that to irritate jeremy fans, lol, those just words, they should put out a petition to rockets for the trade, let's see some action.

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    9. I grew up in MN and I hated Mchale as GM and coach there. I was never on the HOU bandwagon when NY didn't match.

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    10. Monta Ellis would be better fit in McHale's system than Lin, there is truth to that. McHale's system doesn't depend on defense, because they know their defense is so terrible, they want to focus on offense.

      Lin is doing the wrong thing in McHale's system. That is why he gets benched. Yet he doggedly plays defense in defiance to McHale's order.

      Its all about fast breaks, passes into the paint, or 3s.

      How else would you explain their matador defense?

      Lin should follow suit, and score 30+ a game and give up 50pts like Harden. McHale would then build the team around him.

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    11. Personally this "free motion in the ocean" offense means McHale doesn't have a clue. I might be wrong, but ball don't lie.

      Get stuck in a half court sets and die. Get caught by a team that can play their pace and die. Get caught by teams with good perimeter shooters and die.

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  12. I can't watch the game without Lin, see u guys when Lin is back.

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    1. The worst part is that Lin gets 100% of the blame for any loss to a sub .500 team.

      How about the crappy TEAM defense applied to said non-playoff team, that lets them score over 110 shooting near 60% when they average only 94 pts a game on 45% shooting? Is ONE man responsible for the entire opposing team shooting lights out in each game ?

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  14. Jeremy has the second lowest playing time right behind D-Mo. What does it tell us? D-Mo is newly "promoted" to be a starter. So it's sorta understandable he plays lesser mins. But to justify the limited PT by saying Jeremy's ankle still hurts is nonsense. Harden's ankle isn't fully recuperated yet he's playing 42mins. Is Harden supernatural that he can't be injured badly? No. Harden plays that long mins simply becuz coaches believe in him, want him to have superstar stats. Jeremy? oh well, he's only a role player and he isn't going anywhere but stay in Houston to attract sponsorship, ad rev. period.

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  15. It's so frustrating to watch for sure, but at least JLin gets more rest to heal his ankle. With the way this team plays defense, they only won because it was against one of the worst teams in the NBA. And still they managed to make it a close game and not blowout win. Their current standing is fool's gold if they continue to play this way.

    McHale & company really getting on my nerves. Let's hold a celebration party when he gets fired or JLin gets traded!

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  16. When I saw PB made that steal in 4Q, I was like, ok it's time to wash the dishes....sigh....

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    1. Yup anytime Bev does one good thing in the 4th, that is an extra one minute added to his PT. lin's minutes are never guaranteed like bev's minutes are. No wonder Lin plays tentatively

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    2. Yeah, Brent, and as soon as Bev missed that 2J, within 5, I thought ... McHale is going to take a beating in the press. Then as Psalm broke down, and I appreciated that affirmation, ORL stepped out of bounds. That saved McHale. That was time for me to have dinner.

      Roberlin, I agree with you in past thread that no starter should get this 'if 2nd unit does x, you get y' rotation. But in reality, we've seen this all season.

      This is going to continue, and it will end when the next chapter begins. I'm just seeing this in real life now, from all y'az comments and what's happenin' in Rox town. It's happening to a lot of Asian men in US society. Sure other minorities and women face underdog-dom, but there is a unique place for Asian American men where we have to be the model minority, groups use us to excel, and then we are told to sit the bench when bonuses, credit, promotions come. My best boss ever was an AA guy, and he advised me to only give 2 strikes.

      "JoeTeam, do you know what the batting average is for a pro when they have 2 strikes on them?"

      "I don't know, is it 600?"

      "No, it's about 150. Think about that." The only AA boss I ever had, telling me to save myself.

      Hmmmm ... okaaay.

      McCoy out!

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  17. McFridge 2013 best freezer award winner

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  18. McHale is doing everything he can to destroy Lin's career. And he is getting a kick out of messing with Lin fans. Sociopath don't have empathy. They get a kick out of torturing people.

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    1. If i have a chance to get close to mclueless, I'll give him a taekwondo kick to his head!

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    2. alcsd, Mchale doesn't hate Lin. He just doesn't trust Lin.

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    3. How about creating a voodoo doll of him and stick pins and needles during game time.

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    4. k.smith,

      The way he intentional mistreated Lin, it stem much deeper than trust issue. It's definitely "hate."

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  19. Even LBJ just shot an airball, I guess shooting airballs is nothing...lol

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    1. So did delf3no....lol night of air balls

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    2. Harden airballed almost in every game!

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    3. Ay yi yi ... each one of us needs to take JLin out for noodles when he's in our town! Let's start a noodle campaign to protest the injustice ...

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    4. Steph Curry shot an airball today. When most players shoot an airball, it's treated as an anomaly (which is the correct response).

      When Lin shoots an airball, it's "proof" that he is a terrible shooter.

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  20. At this rate McHale will be "proven" right that Jeremy is nothing more than a scrub and Lin will be playing in china in three years.

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    1. But history will repeat itself. Morey and McHale with eggs on their face.

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    2. Well I surely hope so. Is there any other gms out there who believe in lin's worth? Perhaps rich cho?

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    3. Solidz75, no need to overreact bro. Just because McHale doesn't play him doesn't mean other GMs wouldn't want to give Lin a chance in 3 years. He'll be 27 by then and close to his prime.

      He may not ever become a Superstar or multi-year All-star but he's way better to be in the CBA. At worst, Lin is a backup PG or a player that gets bounced around like Ramon Sessions, Jose Barea, Steve Blake, etc. He's already proven he belongs in the NBA and even when he was cut by Golden State, teams were still trying to claim him including the Lakers and Celtics.

      I guarantee if Lin was available 3 years from now, the Spurs and Dallas would come calling.

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    4. LOL the only thing McHale will prove is that he's an idiot and let his bias ruin his coaching career.

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    5. Well NIu I'm obviously exaggerating but it pains me to see Lin get wasted like this as if he is my fam. I just wish he ends up in an organization that believes in him as a player rather than as some marketing gimmick.

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    6. We all do Solidz75 but as good as Lin may be, he has his flaws. Also he still has to continue to defer to Harden, so Lin has to improve to play off the ball more. There's not many coaches that would give Lin free reign, like D'Antoni did since Lin came into a perfect storm.

      In the end, I think it'll all work out. Lin will bust his ass this off-season and get even better.

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    7. Jeremy to Spurs = he'll probably have double assists every game.

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    8. IMO Jeremy would average 9-10 assists and 16-18 points 3 steals easily if he played in a traditional offense with clearly defined role as a pg in any team including the Rox. But we will never know because he is not playing in one.

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    9. Watch.

      Spurs are going to trade some scrub for Lin.

      Morey is going to think he hit jackpot like TRob and give away Lin and DMo, only 2 players I think are worth it on Rox right now.

      Lin would play backup to Parker, but he'd be playing with someone that actually thinks well of him.

      And Pop would shape Lin into a deadly weapon...Fix his shooting problems, boost his confidence, and he'll learn from Parker, someone Lin says he models himself after anyway.

      And Lin and Harden would meet on the court opposing each other, and Lin would destroy him/parsons/beverley together.

      And Spurs would win championships one after another.

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    10. ALL players in the NBA have flaws.

      I know you guys are being honest about Lin's limitations, but let's not go overboard here. There are many more players with bigger roles and less game who are far more flawed than Lin, starting with James Harden whose lack of defensive game irritates me.

      Lin just needs a supportive coach and half decent teammates. I don't know if such a thing exists for him in the NBA, and I suspect that any new team he goes to will feature him having to re- prove himself from less than scratch all over again. And I'm not saying that's a reason to stay in Houston either.

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  21. Morey and McHale are on the same page. Twitting Morey is a waste of your strokes.

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    1. So are jonathon and the other feign dude. Ho chan too. They all work 4 rockets so they turn blind to the injustices going on with Lin.

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    2. mcclueless might be re-signed as head coach by houston. morey and mcclueless are such good pals.

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    3. JLin is getting plenty of time to rest on the bench while getting paid in Houston. He just has to suck it up and keep improving his game. Just be ready for another opportunity to bust out Linsanity when the time is right (for another team if need be).

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    4. I betbu McHale gets an extension if they make the playoffs this year. Then it will effectively end lin's future in Houston.

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    5. Morey runs the operations. They answer to Morey. Morey and McHale are on the same page, therefore, they will do what Morey wants.

      I used to call Morey a control freak, but the more I think about it, I think he is a narcissistic. He loves himself and thinks he is smarter than anyone else. He hires and keeps Mchale is because Mchale installs Morey's vision of how the game should be played.

      Adeleman was let go because he wouldn't play certain guys that Morey wanted him to play and Adelman refused to mentor Finch.

      Les has other businesses, so he doesn't stick his head or hands into it. Les only overseas the final decision.

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    6. i unfollow all of them one month into the season. their responses are useless and they like to degrade fans, especially Lin fans. i'm sure they enjoy the attention so don't give them any.

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  22. this is not gonna be fun for us. If lin or mchale both stay in houston next season,everythings are gonna be the same for lin.

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  23. I was so infuriated, disheartened, and frustrated that I had to step away from this although I was following along the entire game.

    I was rendered immobile by this feeling of powerlessness. It's all so ironic. You get what you think you wanted and sought, but it's not at all what you thought.

    The injustice of it makes you want to turn away from it all because really, why am I expending all this energy? Hope... it's such a dangerous thing, but makes the world go round. I still believe that God has something greater in mind, we just have to tough this out. Such is life.

    I can't imagine how Lin is feeling. How much more he must feel all of this compared to any of us.

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    1. Hang tough in there. JLin is a strong person. This is a tough situation for him (having a coach and probaby GM that treats him as a gimmick), but it pales in comparison with his previous experiences (being undrafted, cut twice, d-league). This will be another chapter of his journey to success.

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    2. It will all the more sweeter when Linsanity explodes again one day. To Linfinity and beyond!

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  24. God will be angry if his devoted son keep getting screwed. I don't know how McHale feel about Lin but if he have any malice against Lin, believe me God's wrath is scary. we already know what happened to him recently, maybe he was really a dirty player back then. Just sayin!

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  25. In the 3rd Q, Lin clearly reduced his intensity on D because of the frustration he had about his team mates not guarding their man at all. And then he left the floor for ever :P...Jlin had a good game, too bad the PT were shortened. Anyway, Trob and D-Mo need to pick up their Defensive game quickly.

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    1. To KHung's points earlier, Harden let Magics shooting and scoring at will.....we almost lost this one.

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  26. I thought Lin played well tonight, despite how constrained his playing time and role was.

    Harden never seemed to pass the ball back to Lin tonight, so Lin seemed pretty much relegated to dribbling ball up court, pass to Harden, then run to corner.

    Everyone else on team also seemed to be consciously making an effort to pass the ball to Harden, so it seems to me that Harden demanded of McHale and teammates to be allowed to play hero ball tonight. Luckily we survived with a win, but if we lost, Harden would have been the major reason.

    I remember reading comment elsewhere that Olajuwon during first year always demanded the ball and offense was sticky, but team really develop and compete for championships until he learned to trust his teammates.

    Remember, ultimate goal is to get back to title contention, and make playoffs this year just to gain experience.

    Hopefully we don't have to suffer too many more bad losses this year before James realizes he needs Lin on court at beginning and end of game just as much vice versa:
    - Lin only means first Miami Heat type performance against really good teams
    - Harden only driving into teeth of defense 3 on 1 means more OKC losses like first or second game this year

    Recent OKC victory is what it hopefully ultimately looks like, with Lin's dribble drive penetration and probing of defense breaking down set defense and creating opening Harden can exploit as closer.

    That and James and Jeremy feeding off of each other making big shots down the stretch, like end of most recent OKC game.

    Patrick Beverley is very athletic and played great defense tonight, but he doesn't have Jeremy's playmaking abilities, and against really good defenses, it will be equivalent of James going 1 on 3 into teeth of OKC defense, with everyone on OKC set and waiting for his drive to basket.

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    1. I personally does not mind if harden jacks up the shot, but, please, some helps on D...

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    2. This was ONE of P-Bevy's good games, where he just happened to be on fire. P-Bevy has had about 10 games where he was MUCH worse in turning over the ball, jacking us bad shots, and fouling incessantly.

      Don't be fooled by a few good games. Tony Douglas was also good in a few games, even beat the Lakers and Bulls when Lin was struggling ... but obviously he didn't play like that everynight.

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    3. I think Douglas' games is complimenting Jeremy's. I love seeing Jeremy as PG and Douglas as SG. of that trade, I miss Douglas.

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  27. seems to me McHale is DESPERATE for a win tonight, with those 2 pointless losses vs 2 questionable teams. McHale is desperately fighting for his job and playoff standing.it would have been ok if he just puts Jeremy under DNP - coach's decision rather than asking him to play, them just bench him when he's getting hot.

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    1. IsabeliJane, if only this were true, the job desperation part.

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    2. @JoeTeam - looks as it is to me. McHale stuck with Beverley till the 4th q because he doesn't have the bad ankle and left his starter (with achy ankle) on the bench.

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    3. Yes, maybe. But Roberlin refuted that in my mind because no good coach does that to a starter, esp. given the difference in track record so far. I saw it coming too, as soon as Bev got a steal and 2 soft jumpers. I though maybe 6 min, as Kenoshi and other guessed. But, I thought we were past the 0 min thing. Bev's luck ran out on the hard drive and out of control jumper near the end there, with the lead at 5. Playing outside himself. Lin, on the other hand, played within himself with that nice patient 360 layup after 2 misses and a TO. He was calm, and he would have been there in crunch.

      Lucky for McHale Magic stepped out of bounds, else it could have been another WAS.

      Anyway, we've seen this rerun before, and I'm with the folks who are tired of this pattern. It's for real now, this crazy-bad coaching. You are right, it seemed like coaching was desparate for a win, and they probably just knee-jerked it. My comparison is the last offensive move for each: a 360 patient beautiful layup vs a panicking drive to crazy off balance miss.

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    4. You are describing what McHale might be feeling, and I was hoping his coaching situation is truly at risk. We hope both are true!

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    5. @JoeTeam - well Les is Rockets' number 1 fan. if the Rockets miss playoffs this season, especially with his roster right now, McHale will probably be bludgeoned to pieces.

      "Alexander describes himself as a hands-off owner since he doesn’t tell the head coach who to play or how to play, but he is involved in every move the team makes, offering suggestions on players he’d like to see general manager Daryl Morey acquire and weighing each trade before signing off on them.

      When the team doesn’t play well, he isn’t shy about letting his charges know he is unhappy. Morey has those conversations regularly. Rookie coach Kevin McHale got a taste of it after the Rockets’ season-opening loss at Orlando."

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    6. Les did recommend Morey to sign Lin. Morey and McHale are on the same page to marginalize Lin so they can prove to Les that they were right.

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    7. Yes, IsabeliJane, about Les and hands on. But there is something not tracking between the owner and coaching, fuzzy and loose through Morey and the tweets by his 'voices' JF and HC. Something is not in agreement inside that organization, and we are seeing all the information. If it were cohesive, we'd be on winning streaks interrupted by losses that everyone would understand and agree on. Instead, fans are in an uproar, etc.

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    8. Yes, maybe alcsd and others who think that are right.

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    9. Let me try: Unless Morey is going to work the rest of his life for Les, the mistake he made in cutting Jeremy the firs time is the biggest stain on his CV. Morey will do all he can to "undo" the mistake by proving himself right in cutting Jeremy. How best to undo the mistake and make his CV looks good? Make Jeremy a failure in Houston. That will be it!

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  28. I've been following JLin ever since he made it to the NBA and been a fan ever since he burst into Linsanity last year. I've been following and reading Jeremylin.net and I think its the only place where I can find comfort when Jeremy's being misused or he's having an off night etc. I think you guys are the only sane critics on Jeremy, and really know what he's capable of. Keep it up guys!

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    1. Please post more often if you can. :)

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    2. hi clkor7. I'm too new to welcome you :-)

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  29. Let me tell u guys why Lin will never succeed under McHale how much better he gets.

    First the amount of minutes Lin gets to play is not dictated by how Lin plays, but instead on how Beverley plays. No matter how well Lin is playing McHale will not extend lin's minutes. But if Beverley starts making plays like he did, mchalevwill not hesitate to leave him in there. Remember this was a night McHale actually complimented Lin - one of the rare praises he has given Jeremy this season

    Second, Jeremy does have flaws in his game but that is not why he is not playing up to his potential . McHale has done everything he can to destroy a young players confidence. In stead of welcoming Lin back after having witnessed what he did last year, he has gone out of his way to place Jeremy in what he thinks his rightful place.. On the bench in a pg less offense.
    U guys can't tell me that Jeremy is not to laying tentaively often passing up shots and sometimes unsure of himself. In stead of fostering an environment where Jeremy can develope, he is really is a loss loss situation. The fact that jeremy is still averaging what he is is a treatment to his skills as a ball player.

    I really thought the coaching staff will come around. I have yet to anything from this coaching staff that makes me believe they are behind Lin.

    The best thing we can hope for is McHale's decision of relying more on Beverley and overplaying harden backfires on him and the rockets ends up missing the playoffs. Otherwise it is going to be same crap as long as they are both together on this tram

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    1. excellent analysis, solidz. Depressing as hell, though. I'm gonna cry myself to sleep, lol.

      I agree with your last paragraph, for this bullshit to change, some divine intervention will have to occur. By divine, not God, but, something unexpected occurs to break the discriminatory pattern of treatment against Lin.

      I've given up hope of linsanity v.2, when lin goes on a long streak of monster play, cuz the coaches do everything to make sure that won't happen. Not conspiracy theory, but, the way they take the ball from him, they way beverly dictates Lin's minutes, the way the coaches won't let him play to his strengths, etc. Hard to play with both your hand tied behind your back and blindfolded, all the while constantly being told your just a singles hitter, stop acting like a homerun hitter.

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  30. I've been saying this for weeks, don't bother passing the ball anymore. Just shoot! Make his 20 ppg. Mchale will sub him out anyways no matter what he does. Lin has to accept the no win situation he's in and do whatever he can to self promote his own future. In this league, scoring is the only way you'll get a check! Lin should just not worry anymore about this team, because he is persona non grata. He needs to force his own personal agenda instead. Use his time on court to promote himself and himself alone. The Rox will continue to play him irregardless because they paid for his services already. Mchale can cut his minutes and increase Bev's but his boss will make him play Lin whether he likes it or not. The Chinese advertisers will leave if the Rox stop playing Lin.

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    1. Chinese advertisers should leave period ... this treatment is worse than not playing him. If there is one silver lining, is that McHale's true colors are showing and tarnishing his HOF legacy.

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    2. Lin's brother Joe is on Twitter leaking out earlier this season that JLin should have the rock. I think that was after Spurs 38? Anyway, that assured me Lin's insiders think the way you and other fans write.

      We really are in a truthful place now - for some reason, there is institutional bias against JLin. I'm not saying race, but the organization is not seeing Lin for what the true value and performance is, even in an dynamic game. So, there will be blood, Daniel Day Lewis! Lin's going to win an Oscar next time he unhooks.

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    3. Love to see him in Toronto and reunite with Fields, who can actually finish an alley oop. Add Novak and Jeffries and let's have some fun. It would have to be a 3 team deal, cuz Lowry would ain't getting near McHale ever again!

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  31. Twitting Morey does nothing. Rather, get the word out to stop going to games ... that's when you get their attention

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  32. I also wish someone would ask these obvious questions on why McHale doesn't seem to give Lin his due on the great games ... it's as if the Rockets org is a dictatorship where the media is censored or owned by the organization.

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    1. They have been lining up the media voices ...

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    2. Maybe Coach McHale is an old school, tough love type of coach and still views Jeremy as a rookie to be molded under his tutelage?

      What Jeremy did during Linsanity 1.0 probably wasn't sustainable, because he wasn't scouted, and more importantly, Lin doesn't seem to have body type to absorb punsihment and wear and tear on his knees by being D'Antoni's Secretariat for 82 game season.

      What Lin during his Reno Bighorn days seem a more realistic role for Jeremy during 82 game NBA season:


      After examining a number of the Bighorns' metrics with Lin on and off the floor, the most interesting values are below:

      Reno Bighorns, With/Without Jeremy Lin
      Team OffRtg DefRtg NetRtg TS% FGM (%AST)
      Reno Bighorns 104.8 99.5 5.3 54.3% 55.6%
      Off 104.1 101.8 2.3 54.2% 54.4%
      On 106.9 93.2 13.7 54.5% 58.9%
      Pay special attention to the difference that Lin makes on his team's NetRtg.

      When Lin was on the floor last season, the Bighorns outscored their opponents by an average of 13.7 points per 100 possessions, 11.4 MORE than they did when he was on the bench. Although Lin helped with his team's ball movement (59% of FGM were assisted with him on the floor versus just over 54% when he wasn't ), Lin's presence made the Bighorns only marginally better offensively (they scored roughly 107 points per 100 possessions with him on the floor versus 104 points with him off the floor and their TS% was essentially unchanged).

      Surprisingly -- knowing what we know now -- Lin's impact was most profound on the defensive end, where his Bighorns yielded almost 9 fewer points per 100 possessions with him on the floor, shaving the team's DefRtg from a pedestrian 101.8 to a sterling 93.2. Perhaps this indicates that beyond Lin's ability to facilitate offense, he could potentially help bolster the Knicks' team defense (one of the teams' perennial weaknesses) as well.

      Taking a step back, it's not difficult to see why many teams overlooked Lin. For teams seeking a point guard, Lin's offensive numbers were seemingly indistinguishable from numerous other players in the NBA D-League. Of course, his intelligence and court vision can't be fully quantified, and it is perhaps these qualities that drew the Knicks to Lin. However, his extraordinary impact on defense and scoring differential may have also caught the eye of the right person at the right time -- and the Bighorns' vast improvement with him on the court speaks to what we've heard over and over again over the past week: he just helps teams win.


      http://www.nba.com/dleague/news/the_hidden_side_jeremy_lin_2012_02_15.html


      But nice to know he can explode at any time, especially when lights are brightest and pressure greatest, for spurts of Linsanity here and there.

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    3. Of course, his intelligence and court vision can't be fully quantified, and it is perhaps these qualities that drew the Knicks to Lin. However, his extraordinary impact on defense and scoring differential may have also caught the eye of the right person at the right time -- and the Bighorns' vast improvement with him on the court speaks to what we've heard over and over again over the past week:

      ** he just helps teams win **


      http://www.nba.com/dleague/news/the_hidden_side_jeremy_lin_2012_02_15.html

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    4. If McHale is molding Jeremy, then that is one class Jeremy should skip. Mold into what? A mediocre PG who has his confidence shot? McHale's a HOF big man and he can't get any of the PFs to rebound a lick. Get Calvin Murphy to tutor Jeremy.

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    5. And one more thing .. if McHale is old school and sees Jeremy as a rookie, why doesn't he do the same with Asik, Parsons, or Beverly for that matter. Lin has the same if not more years in the NBA than all of them. True he didn't play in as many games .. .but no one can argue that when he did get his chance, those games have far outshone any that the others have played ... and in the pressure cooker that is NYC.

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    6. Lin is the team's point guard.

      The others are not.

      Bevereley is a great athlete, but his playmaking abilities don't seem that great.

      And during Linsanity with the Knicks, he was unscouted and his body was fresh (Deron Williams was so winded during that first game chasing Lin around). Lin has gotten beat up a bit this year, and during that tough losing streak recently, you could see Lin losing his explosiveness because of fatigue.

      Lin's knees would never hold up over time if he was forced to be D'Antoni's Secretariat for a few NBA regular seasons.

      Plus what can potentially make Lin elite is his passing ability, not his shooting.

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  34. How does a bench player dictate how many minutes a starter plays in a game? WTF McHale?!

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    1. I agree. Fans like me wouldn't be riled up if this rarely happened but it's a common occurrence.

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  35. @swinglinezigzag: "March 1, 2013 at 7:16 PM
    I agree with you both. But I think, to some degree, he can play dumb and try to do his thing without it becoming an issue."

    The Chinese have a saying: It's difficult to act muddled. Meaning it's an art.

    "Nan de hu tu."

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  36. I think Toney got the better end of the deal even though he's on the bench in SAC. :)

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    1. Nooooo, no more Keith Smart for Lin.

      Keith Smart ruined Lin's rookie season.

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    2. Sorry, forgot about that ... but Smart will likely be gone next year. :)

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  37. i waste $189 for the LP, i should go buy 189 McChicken instead.

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    1. LOL, good one. I tried to watch NBA games on streaming sites ... but I stopped doing that because there were too many viruses and programs being loaded into my computer.

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    2. Totally agree ... I was looking forward to seeing Lin games and LP was the only option after he was not resigned by the Knicks. We also went to 2 games in nearby cities at a total cost of $1500 (the Knicks ticket prices were even more outrageous) and at the games you can see the dynamics that they don't broadcast as some posters have pointed out. Very sad and depressing.

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    3. i don't even count the money i paid for the six rockets games. at least i get to buy the $6 hotdog at arena. lol. i'm too weak.

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    4. I wished I was in Houston .. those tickets are a relative bargain. Knicks-Rockets at MSG were $1000 each for decent seats.

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  38. This system is hurting Lin's development ... how can he become a better point guard if he's forced to play OUT OF POSITION as a corner spot up shooter?

    How can he learn to make better decisions with the ball ... when he rarely has the ball in his hands to begin with?

    How is he supposed to learn to control an offense? Right now that job is given to Harden, and he sucks at it.

    Lin never went to a basketball powerhouse high school or college, then rotted on the bench for Golden State. He's been held back for too many years, and now he will waste 3 years learning to be Harden's ball boy.

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  39. What Lin is going through right now is what Asian Americans in show business typically go through.

    We ere are not used to seeing it this close and personal, so it seems shocking. But this is the way Asian American show business people are treated.

    Lin's gone through this his entire career. Every step of his career, he has faced doubters because of his race. He succeeds, and then doubters try to undercut him.

    But you know what guys? Every time Lin bounces back, he bounces back STRONGER.

    People on this site are very smart. Everybody sees signs of tremendous individual growth with Jeremy Lin. We all know that he's got serious game and is constantly improving despite brutal circumstances.

    With the right usage, I have no doubt that Lin could have easily averaged 20 points and 10 points this season. In the limited time and opportunities he's received, Lin has made the most out of his minutes.

    I'm not worried about Lin at all. He's got so much game, it's scary. No matter what anybody says, I salute Lin because he's doing as well as anybody could be doing under such situations. Even if he's America's Asian whipping boy, Lin is the star of stars in my own eyes!

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    1. The Commish should take note ... since I'm sure the fans in Asia also take notice and they are not stupid. It's all over the Chinese newspapers. If this continues, the NHL may have a better chance to succeed there than the NBA! Also, it's not just AAs in show biz, it's also in business (outside of IT of course) ... where the only way to get to senior mgt is to start your own company like Charles Wang.

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    2. Too bad you and Roberlin cannot merge your threads. V good point about AA in entertainment. It's been a tough road for people like Russell Wong, Margaret Cho, etc. Even Bruce Lee lost his idea of Kung Fu to David Carradine's embodiment (not his fault). Kato of the Green Hornet was all we got, and was he explosive! Lately, it's been the same, and we have Wang Fu doing Yellow Fever as late as say 6 years ago.

      I hope the new generation, the KevJumba, Jubilees, and so one can make a new wave. It won't be institutional entertainment, though.

      AA leaders have to put an agenda together to support our frontrunners. Unfortunately, as a Cisco engineer once said to me ... AA's don't stick together.

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    3. Yeah, we haven't come that far as a society have we really?

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    4. Said the person who think it's OK if Lin turns into a Derek Fisher type role player.

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    5. Just look at Etane trying to degrade me because of my Asian screenname.

      If anybody wants to see a TRUE ASIAN HATER, look at his posts.

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    6. Lin will never allow himself to turn into a Derek Fisher. He has too much pride. He wants to to play in the all star and he is determined to get there. Just because he is not a diva and not saying anything doesn't mean he doesn't have a plan to combat the mistreatment from coaches and Morey.

      I am sure his agents are aware of the mistreatment and lets wait and see what happens by next trade deadline.

      The signing of Aaron Brooke go through, then it is a sign that Lin's days in Helltown are numbered.

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    7. Nope mmako, we haven't gone that far, and the hope is we haven't really tried.

      AAs are not politically organized or even consolidated. The older communities, the multi-generations, came over in waves of near-slavery conditions (railroads, service people, women in that era, etc.) So, we are really new when it comes to having strength or pure willful immigration. Difference is, we aren't the same race as in Irish or Polish or Swedish, so our multi-gen folks have been down-troddened for generations. Our new immigrants don't get it ... why sit back? Etc. And, as a group, we are v fragmented, but as a face, we are all classed the same.

      To KHuang's 150 years - I hope not. We have kids.

      There are 2 George Benson songs I would like to share to cheer y'all up:

      Down Here on the Ground

      The Greatest Love of All, well before Whitney and more soulful

      Now back to work: Roberlin, who should organize this gentle start to make change?

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    8. Etane is just lying about me or anybody wanting Lin to turn into the next Derek Fisher, alcsd.

      I agree with you when you say that Lin has too much game to become the next Fisher. His bald faced lie that I would want Lin to become the next Fisher is a product of his own racist twisted paychopathic imagination.

      Etane's just trying to degrade Asians on this forum. People like him are why Asian Americans have a rough time.

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    9. For every second Lin through this so called condition or situation is a waste of valueable and important time in Lin's career.

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    10. Rikki I echo your sentiments. I hate the fact that Lin is wasting his time here.

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    11. You said it in your response to me, Khuang. Don't lie about it. You're a Jeremy hater and a Mchell only Fan (MOF). Here's what you said in earlier today:

      Etane March 1, 2013 at 10:53 AM

      If current trends continue, you'd be the only person in the world that thinks Lin is not a role player, Khuang.

      KHuang March 1, 2013 at 11:14 AM

      Etane, you know I'd be OK with that.

      Besides, every player in the NBA is a "star" to me. I'm a true fan of the entire league, even the players I criticize.

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    12. Same thoughts here. I'm not sure about bball but for any other sports, 24 is the age most elite sportsmen already achieved certain milestones in their own rights. Shall I put the other way round that Jeremy isn't using his time optimally.

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    13. I know what you're tryjng to pull, Etane.

      You are trying to degrade Asians for daring to speak up for their rights. That's because you are a racist paychopath who's trying to hijack this forum and hate everybody Asian here.

      Your hatred will never succeed, Etane. Not in this place. You won't succeed in portraying me as a Jlin hater because you are not in a position of strength here.

      Your racism has no effect here. If anything, you're swaying people to my side.

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    14. Nah just trying to keep it real, khuang. Since you give me so much attention, I might as well reciprocate and help people be reminded for your famous words, so your legend in this forum lives on forever.

      You keep pulling your racism victim card and display the only way you can rebel against white people racism against you is by trying to bully other asians. Your type of asian is exactly why its hard for other asians to move into the mainstream.

      Just saying it cuz it's true.

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  40. Long rant on Lin and racism.

    Good things will come to you if you keep working hard? Sorry, man, that's just bullshit Asian and AMerican ideology. Lots of people worked real hard in this country, and got rewarded with hate, disrespect, getting fired, discrimination, physical injuries due to overworking, mental disorders, arrests, prison time, and physical illnesses, etc.

    What will Lin do? I don't see him going the attitude route, cuz that's just not him, but because he shouldn't.

    Playing really well wont' work, because the coaches will undermine any of Lin's momentum the next game and totally forget how well he played.

    So, at this point, Jeremy is screwed; so, let's call it what it is - subconscious racial bias and discrimination. McHale and Sampson look at Lin and seeing through asian stereotype goggles, see a slow, unathletic geeky asian guy who can't keep up with the faster black guys, can't shoot like specialist white guys, and who therefore looks like a zombie compared to the lightning quick, super athletic Patrick Beverly.

    When he shut down John Wall? Just got lucky - so, don't press the luck, put in Beverly for the final play, no way a slow, unathletic asian geek can stay with John Wall two times in a row.

    I'm usually last to bring up racism as an explanation for mistreatment, but, I can't think of any other reason to explain McHale's treatment of Lin. It should at least be brought up as a point of discussion, and have Mcdickhead explain himself.

    But, this is the Asian American dilemma being played out through Jeremy Lin's shitty treatment by his coaches - no talk about race, just SILENCE in the national media. Every time some idiot announcer talks about how surprised he is that Lin leads in steals (surprised because that takes athleticism, and well, Lin is Asssiiian); or when they talk about how shitty Lin's defense is when the evidence strongly says otherwise; or how they talk about Lin's good plays coming because he's "smart," not because of his athleticism; the response has been silence among Asian Americans, the only group that has a stake in Lin's success and the only group that could raise a stink about the racist shit Lin continues to deal with now, everyday.

    It's fucking ironic that there was all this talk about race in the NBA during black history month, while the newest race issue in the NBA goes completely ignored and no mainstream journalist or blogger has the guts to write about the fact that racism in the NBA exists now, and we may be seeing it in the treatment of Lin.

    I'm sure you all could point to announcer commentary, coach mistreatment, etc., with either explicitly or implicit racial overtones.

    But, SILENCE is all we get on this issue. Lin can't bring it up without looking really bad.

    White and black journalists aren't going to bring it up, because they don't see it, they just see a mediocre asian poser playing next to a superstar.

    ANd get it straight, am I totally certaina bout unconscious racial bias underlying Lin's mistreatment by coaches and the bashing or just plain ignoring Lin by the national media? No. But, why isn't it even being brought up as an issue to examine and explore? Investigative journalism anyone?

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    1. ^This.

      No more investigative journalism left, unless you can talk Frontline into it.

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    2. Well said. But we don't have a national voice like al sharpton or spike lee's to bring attention to what appears to be mistreatment of the first legit asian American player. This is why we have a lot at stake in lin's success to ensure Tha next time an Asian American tries to break in, he won't be mistreated like Lin has.

      Frustrating as hell .. Feel so freaking helpless.

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    3. I bring up the racism you describe ALL THE TIME on this forum - and get constantly flamed for it.

      I absolutely hate the media because they hate Asians. They ignore Asians at best, spread lies about them at worst. It's FASHIONABLE to bash Asians in America.

      I have constantly written that Asian Americans have been discriminated against for the last 150 years and will continue to be discriminated against for the next 150 years.

      Lin is doing great, and he's inching forward bit by bit. Unfortunately, there is a high likelihood that he'll have to find a new team after his 3 years are up and he'll either have to start all over again or find a different league to play in.

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    4. Khuang, well, stop saying this stuff to us, who knows about it, and start shouting it out to the ignorant masses out there (ignorant in just not knowing).

      STart a blog, something. Where the fuck as the Asian American civil rights groups? Are they just clueless about basketball to know what's going on?

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    5. Go easy on me, Roberlin.

      I AM in show business. I have been doing the "Jeremy Lin" for years by outlasting all my racial haters. I've got my own successful business catering to all sorts of wonderful people. I'm doing my part.

      Ignorant - and educated - masses DO NOT LISTEN. That is life in America. Yammering about it won't change a darned thing. I've been there, done that.

      I cannot change the way people think. I can only be me. Actually, my utter disinterest in trying to change people's thinking seems to have had the most social impact - not that social impact is my goal or something I even consider desirable for myself!

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    6. Khuang, are you like jerry maguire? cool.

      But, in response, you know the group that needs the most education? Us. Asian Americans. Asian Americans believe in the "Just work hard and then work harder, and then work hard some more," as the solution to everything more than any other group. I think studies show many Asian Americans don't believe that racism presents obstacles to opportunities and success in the U.S.

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    7. Yah I told you many times already Khuang, go start you own angry asian guy ranting youtube site, go social. Talking about it here is preaching to the choir and borderline co-dependent.

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    8. Well, Asian Americans are in for a rude awakening then.

      I have spent my whole life being ostracized because I am Asian American. Even many FOBs from Asia have marginalized me. I never had any illusions about work merely being enough to succeed.

      I do not measure myself by societal standards. I'd commit suicide if I did. No, I measure myself by my own standards because I live my own life. When somebody negatively judges me, the onus is on that person to either offer me a constructive solution I can use or GET BEAT DOWN.

      Jeremy Lin is like me: he has no illusions about how hard his race makes it for him in basketball. He's also getting paid $25 million for it and has several continents of adoring fans of all colors. Lin's actually got it going pretty good, though we all know he would be doing even better if he were any other color other than Asian.

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    9. See, look at this racist fool Etane thinking he can openly flame Asians in a place like this.

      You Asians here wanna show some guts? FLAME this Etane troll off this board for trying to make like we Asians are some sort of unjustly angry psychos.

      It's GUTLESS to not stand up to Etane's racism. I confront it head on, and I even get flamed for it. I don't back down either because Asians should NEVER back down from racists like Etane?

      So I dare you, guys. Stand up and burn this hater troll off this forum. He openly hates y'all anyway, so don't treat him with kid gloves.

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    10. @Roberlin, ita, & I am AA. I see institutionalized racism against Lin, and makes me so mad.Lin can really play, and you can believe that the players in the league who have actually went 1 on 1 with him knows he can play and I think those players respect his game.The press won't speak up and other players won't speak up about it. I personally think that the attitude JR/Mello had against Lin, speak for most of the AA players in the NBA. I think Tony Parker, Tim Duncan and Stephen Curry are just a few of the AA who knows that Lin can really play. A few coaches like Popovich, and Dantoni are the few coaches in the league who also knows what a good player Lin is. As a pioneer in the NBA, he will have to continue to prove himself, because the nature of America when stereotypes are birthed into your life in childhood. I personally think this freezing out Lin has to do with Harden. I personally think Harden feels threatened by Lin. I also think that Morey got rid of Patterson because he was a leader on the team and I think that he called the coach and Harden out. I think Harden is all about Harden and not about the the team. I will tell you this my brother and his friends have already pegged Harden as someone who will turn into Melo in the future(where he gets the coach fired), My brother states that he is an elite scorer, but just fluff.They like the Rockets and they think Lin has game,but they don't think Rockets will make the playoff because there is no team chemistry and they laughed at McHale being the coach because he got fired from Minnesota. I asked my brother and his friends if they think Lin will be a star in this league, they seem to think that he will because they have watched him play and they said that he plays smart basketball and because the NBA is so political and they really want NBA presence more in the Asian countries and when Yao Ming retired, they thought they had lost their chance, but lin came along and can really play. They also said that this is Lin's rookie season as a player because he hasn't played a full season. They think once he gets a full season under his belt that he will get more respect in the league. But their thought were really clear about Harden. they think that he is another Melo with the passive aggressiveness about wanting to be the star of the team with no competition. so those are my brother's and his friends thoughts about Lin/Harden.

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    11. @KH ... if Lin were any other color, he would not inspire people of all colors.

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    12. "Asian Americans believe in the "Just work hard and then work harder, and then work hard some more."-> I think this mentality is gradually change over time. From generation to generation. And besides, not just Asian Americans think that way, most will believe in hard work pays off. I for one, believe in endeavor. And I agree, most of the time, Asians are recognized as a hard worker with less complain. Maybe not until they hire me. haha...

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    13. @awarde @_@

      what you wrote there seems interesting to me to read, but it would be better if, you could break down in paragraphs in the future. LoL .

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    14. Hey Khuang: I'd gladly leave this forum if people here actually believe in your SOB stories about being a victim of racism on a daily basis. Wouldn't be interested in talking to others who think and act like you do anyways. It gets old.

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    15. @lydia lien, sorry about that.next time I will.LOL

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  41. I think it would be mutually beneficial for rockets to part with Lin. With the current offensive set, the Rox has no use for a true of like Lin. They would be better off sticking with the likes of TD, brooks and Beverley. Lin shouldn't stay here for obvious reasons.
    I'm sure Morey is thinking the same as he sees this team develop. Nothing will happen this season, but I'd be very surprised if both are back next year. And the way les was raving about McHale, I think Morey will find a way to trade Lin.

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  42. Rockets are going to sign Aaron Brooks... cuz that's what the Rockets need, more offense and less defense! smh

    Look for Lin to be the token starter to appease the fans, then he'll be subbed out early and often.

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    1. I see it more that Lin is a warm-up guy. Rox use him to get everyone going. The numbers prove he's darned good at that, even for himself. Then he gets some play. After that, only if they need him on D. Other than that, it's how it 'feels' at any one time.

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    2. Damn ... this is almost a repeat of GSW when they used him as a marketing ploy.

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    3. I hope they are trying to phase out Lin by bringing brooks. I really can't take this bs organization anymore.

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    4. If Lin gets out of HOU, that would be good. My uncle lived there for decades, and though he didn't complain I have had my experiences with TX.

      I used to go to Austin monthly for work. I never saw racism in TX, because I was with educated folks. But one night, I saw it clearly when a lady I was with used the N word, and I realized ... oh, it's really a tough place for any minority. I asked a VIetnamese guy who was local, and he said when he rode his bike around town (Tour de France style cycling - a normal American past time), guys with trucks would try to hit him with the mirrors.

      Later, I shared a ride in a plane with an old lady, and she let me in on a secret. It's not race in TX ... it's if you were born there or not. They don't accept anyone who is not back to the Alamo.

      The only thing good I see about TX is no state taxes, fireflies on Town Lake, and it's a great place to visit!

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    5. I had friends who had that same experience .. if you're not native to TX, you're an outsider and treated as such. Mind you they were white and from WV, so they even had a bit of a southern drawl. If they were not accepted, imagine an Asian!

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    6. @JoeTeam, I have to say, houses in Tx is great too, big and cheap! Lol

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    7. Brent, I would love to be in a tax free state where housing is cheap. I just need to be around 'soul food' if you know what I mean. Noodles, authentic stuff. How's new immigration from China done for the 3 dishes for $17 market? In the Bay Area, eating out is really good these days. $25 for a family.

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    1. Take heart, k.smith.

      This is the way Asian Americans are normally treated. Believe it or not, this is just another day at work for Jeremy Lin.

      And what a day of work it was! Lin dominated the 1st quarter like a Hall of Famer would before he got subbed out. Then he played solidly the rest of the game.

      I get accused here of being way too optimistic. Well, I can't help it because I'm an Asian American like Lin who's been artificially degraded all my life. When people have tried to insult or undercut me, it doesn't change my positive self esteem or the knowledge that I'm trying my hardest.

      Jeremy Lin is going to become strong too. He should rejoice in the good he did and not roast himself in anguish. He is playing as well as any human being can play under such circumstances.

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    2. So you know KHuang, I like you because you YELL against racism, yet you keep it positive. You go girl ... (sorry, couldn't help the joke).

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    3. Khuang, Lin said it himself - he knows he has to prove himself every day. A statement that is true, but not good for his psyche and for his play.

      Look at LeBron James. Once he finally didn't have to prove himself as a player who could lead his team to a championship, he's playing with a calmness and centeredness this season I've never seen before, and he's playing the best he's ever played before in his life.

      And, great, you can handle the racism well in your own llife; but, not all our Asian and Asian American brothers and sisters can handle it as well as you can. Like me. Lol. I've been counting on Lin doing his linsanity thing this year to help totally shatter those stereotypes about Asian/Asian American men, but instead, Mcshithead and his crew has done everything possible to confirm those stereotypes.

      Lin is the Asian American version of Jackie Robinson, except the big difference is that, except for Asian Americans, no one gives a shit about Lin's historic career to date, and no one thinks that he faces any real barriers now, except his own personal liabilities and physical limitations. You know, Asian American men can't jump! But, he does know how to spell temporal.

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    4. The season's almost over, nothing's going to change. Lin's not going to show much improvement in his shooting and the coaching staff isn't going to use him any differently. I expect Lin's minutes to go down if the Rockets add Brooks to the roster. He's a better spot up shooter than Lin, just like Bev. These guys don't have court vision or true PG skills but hey, they can shoot 3's.

      I'm more disappointed in Lin. It's his responsibility to exert himself and make himself a part of the the team. It's his responsibility to earn his coach's trust. He defers too much, especially to players he thinks are better than him. I hope he understands that sitting out during the most critical moments of a game is not okay. Where's that fire he had in NY? Where's that aggressive mentality? What about playing the game his way? Why the hell does he seem so laid back about all of this?

      Why wasn't Lin more aggressive in the third qtr, he always disappears in this qtr. Lack of screens? Adjustments made by opposing team and Mchale?

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    5. Roberlin - if you are in sports, you have a great role model who's ahead of you. If you are a civilian like most of us, you can take heart in learning about the quiet and loud struggle. I get a lot out of this board and CF, if not to remind me what I allowed to pass in my own life and what strength I should show today. It's all good. If you are single, it's a tougher journey as an AA man facing the quiet veto given to the 'model minority'. If you have a good wife, it's much easier. Pick a good one, lean forward, and engage!

      Feel the force, Luke.

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    6. Roberlin, you cannot count on Lin or even yourself to shatter those racist stereotypes for you.

      You're only going to get angry and frustrated if you try. Just live your happy life and appreciate Lin as a historic Asian American pioneer who is writing history as we gleefully watch.

      Don't worry about nobody caring about us Asian Americans. Just go live your life positively and don't let the haters ruin your enjoyment. They can exclude you from everything and even go after you, but your happiness is of your own choosing. Not even Lin can give that to you.

      I just live my life, just like Lin lives his. I fully appreciate the difficulty of his situation. All of us here do. That does count for something.

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    7. JoeTeam, yeah, and let's be real, Jeremy Lin doesn't just bring up the racism issue for Asian Americans, but he also raises the issue of masculinity regarding Asian American men. Or lack thereof, lol. Basically, the underlying meme critical of Lin is that he's not "man" enough to play with real men, because he's, you know, Asian. He's Asiiiannn. (isn't that from some skit last year on SNL?).

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    8. khuang, as Joe Team alluded to, tons of Asian American guys who can't get dates or marry because Asian American women go out with white men, while white/non-asian women don't go out with asian american men, statistically speaking.

      So, no one caring specifically about Asian American men DOES have a real harmful social impact on Asian American men, and future Jeremy Lins who may not be as strong as him, who wilt under the racism and give up their NBA dreams.

      So, you're fine. great. Lin's fine. great. But, then, how about helping out your AA brothers who may not be fine and have bought into the racist media b.s. you keep talking about.

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    9. And while you're at it, Roberlin, why don't you show me some of YOUR GUTS?

      Etane is here trying to destroy this forum and degrade Asians. He's posted horribly vile epithets against Asians.

      Why don't you show me some of your toughness and FLAME HIM like I have? I ain't afraid of blasting the racist when he tries to spread negative sterotypes of "angry asian men" like he did.

      I'm unafraid of racists like Etane. I'll bet that I'm the only person on this entire forum who has no fear of that guy.

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    10. Etane...Etane...Etane...Etane....damn it! Why I see Etane everywhere?Etane, you are really bad! hahaha........

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    11. Uh, I can't flame Etane, because he's basically agreeing with what I'm saying. By fighting the fight for Asian Americans, flaming a supposed troller isn't actually what I had in mind. More like a blog with stats showing how good Lin is; vids showing Lin's awesome plays; quotes from players, coaches talking about how good Lin is; and then info about racism and how unconscious bias can skew our perception about a player's talents and abilities, which is how Jimmer Fredette can get drafted as a lottery pick, while Lin goes undrafted.

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    12. oh, and joe team, I am married, but, unfortunately she's a bad wife, not a good wife. :(

      Lol. J/k. My wife is going to kill me if she reads this. I'm just kidding, sweetie. :)

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    13. You wanna talk big, Roberlin?

      Put your actions where your mouth is and start standing up for yourself and Asians, starting right here right now on this forum.

      Do not whine that successful older Asian Americans like me are not doing our part to help you. Right now, I am teaching you how to stand up and be strong.

      No racist - and I've faced a lifetime of them - has ever scared me. That's because when they came hunting for my head, I was more than ready to beat them - or embrace them if they came with an olive branch.

      You want change? DO something about it. And don't ask an older Asian American male like me to do it for you either.

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  44. We should get JLin to read this blog site and or anybody... somebody to end this asian stereotype. please.....

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  45. Don't they have asian media in post game conferences? Can't they hire somebody to ask these questions?

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    1. to be clear, we need Asian AMERICAn media to ask these questions, because what Lin is facing is an American phenomenon.

      But, how many national Asian American sports media types are out there? Michael Kim on ESPNNews? Is that it? And, more importantly, how many of them are willing to take on this issue?

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    2. Rockets won't allow it I bet! Look at the OKC postgame ... McHale deflected the Lin performance question and no one brought it up again.

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    3. Most of the Asian media that go to Rockets games are like CCTV that is from China or Taiwanese media. Michael Kim wouldn't be doing that since he's mostly studio anchor.

      There's fellow Taiwanese-American, Howard Chen whose there at every Rockets game and answering tweets for CSN Houston. However, if he started making this a an Asian-American issue, he'd probably get fired.

      So it needs to be a independent journalist. It's not that hard to get locker room access since you mostly need a press pass. But knowing Lin, he would just give a politically correct answer.

      There's another ESPN affiliate, Red94 who asked Lin about being Asian-American last year and continues to have locker room interviews with Houston this season.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBJHkIZPXK0

      http://www.red94.net/

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    4. thanks for the info, Niu baller.

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  46. Not sure if someone has already pointed this out, but JLIn was a game time decision for today's game due to a sore ankle and he sat out yesterday's practice. This is according to Sports Illustrated and several other media sources. It is quite possible that the coach's were trying to have Jeremy take it easy so he can be 100% for Dallas on Sunday.

    Don't be discouraged by what's going on or not going on in Jeremy's or Mchale's head. Those who are Christians can be praying for Jeremy that he would try his best and glorify God, which he says is his goal in good and tough times. Jeremy is in a very unique and God given situation to be a huge testimony of Christ to his teammates, coaches, other players, and the world. Let's pray for him!

    And we know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose. Romans 8:28

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    1. But man, I wish he get some attitude though .. I know it's not him and will never happen. Love to see him reciprocate praise of McHale's coaching in the same manner McHale's heaves praise on Lin (sarcasm).

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    2. The Christian talk is great and all, but that must mean Christians all supported Beverely to get PT over Lin in the 4th. Every time he checks in the game, he always does the sign of the cross so maybe God heard his prayers too.

      I don't buy the sore ankle excuse because James Harden was also sat out Saturday's practice after bumping knees in the previous game. He started off timid early on and his lift and aggressiveness wasn't the same tonight either, but that didn't stop McHale from playing him and letting him shoot. So the injury excuse doesn't work in this situation.

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    3. Yeah stop giving McHale the benefit of the doubt. He is not looking out for Jeremy or showing him " tough love" . I don't think he personally hates Jeremy, but clearly he does not respect Jeremy as his starting pg. there is nothing to disprove this short of asking him to his face.

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    4. if it is indeed the coach that's impeding Jeremy Lin , as claimed by many here , then he will be heading to the exit in no time.

      but Jlin's favorite verse is Romans 8:28 (from his impromptu Q&A in FB) , so i guess , he'll be taking all these things as cool as he can. :)

      while his fans are as despondent , anguished and dejected as they can... :(

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    5. Roman 8:28 - And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose.

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    6. Romans 8:28 - And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose.

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  47. This organization actually has made me happy that Royce White put them through the wringer the first half of the year!

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    1. Royce White for rookie of the year!

      The only person not treated worse than JLin has been Royce White.

      Fuck the Rockets.

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    2. I mean, only person on rockets treated worse than JLin has been Royce White.

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