In honor of the CAAMFEST and what Jlin has meant to us Asian American Men, I'd like to refer back to this hilarious Jeremy Lin Effect video (sorry forgot how to hyperlink):https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5GVMWl2Z-Y .
I just realized that the Houston's 20-2 run with 5 min left in the 2Q was sparked by getting Dragic into early foul trouble with his 3rd foul which sent him to the bench.
Dragic just drained his 3PT and assisted Dudley with his 3PT to take 43-48. This led to a timeout when Lin had his "pep talk" about wanting the game more than the Suns and they needed to play D.
Immediately, Lin got Dragic's 2nd foul and G.Smith got his 3rd foul in the next possessions. Dragic went to the bench and the Rockets got 20-2 run to lead by 58-45.
I think Lin got his payback in getting Dragic into foul trouble and out of the game after Dragic baited Lin to foul his elbow with Lin's chin and eventually fouled out.
Perhaps his talk with AB about stopping Curry as an explosive scorer by attacking them on defense triggered a light bulb for Jeremy.
Dragic was the head of the snake and Curry was for the GSW, if you cut off the head of the snake, you basically guarantee the win.
I expect Lin will take his new discovery to intentionally attack the opposing PG to get them into foul trouble or spending so much time on D, they're ineffective in their O. So it's not enough for him to play shutdown D, it's better to attack them on the O side.
I think Jeremy just became a lot more dangerous with this realization!
Its aaron brooks...he probably told lin how to deal with dragic like curry, which again was AB's idea. Lin was markedly different afterwards. Dragic just wasn't effective at all after the break.
Btw there's nothing wrong with taking advice from a more veteran player it takes nothing away from lin.
It's also a change in Lin's mental approach, KHuang.
In Phoenix, Dragic was the aggressor and the ref sure gave home-discount calls.
But in Houston, Lin was the aggressor and managed to get Dragic into foul trouble quickly.
It's definitely not a new concept but it would benefit Lin greatly to not burn so much energy chasing other PGs but he can put the opposing PG on their heels on offense by attacking them and render them ineffective on the offensive end.
I think all us Lin fans forgot to discuss something that is so exciting and yet nervewrecking! I have pins and needles about how Lin does in the playoffs! As much as we think Lin is already a great player, as many of us come to know it is what a player do in playoffs that truly define how great you are and can make a star and all star into a superstars! Can wait to hear what you all have to say and with some supporting evidence if I may, like "Lin loves to thrive on the spot light, when the pressure is on!" Lol
In the other thread, I posted that Jeremy Lin will RAISE HIS GAME in the playoffs.
Anytime a player as athletically dominating and as fundamentally sound as Lin gets pressured in the playoffs, he raises his game.
I don't know about this "star making" business, given that the NBA has anointed guys like Kyrie Irving and Kevin Love as "superstars" even though neither of them will be in the playoffs anytime soon. That's media hype, and I don't concern myself with that other than to DEBUNK it.
What I do know is that in a pure basketball sense, Jeremy Lin's game is tailor made for NBA playoff pressure basketball.
A lot of player's game could be predictable , since Lin has the feel for the game , he can adjust the way to play according to the game situation . It is very difficult for the opponent during the playoff , they need to pick the poison of stopping him or stopping his team.
The difference between how harden attacks is that he uses his own treamondous skills to score. In his mind, he sees the options and utilizes the situation to beat his opponent with his speed, strength and skills. Lin on the other hand has attacks with 5 people in his mind. The variables of all the skills available to him is like a player with 4 extra sets of arms and legs acting as one. This cerebral athleticism is what separates good PGs from great ones. It's literally speed chess with 9 other pieces on the board. If you look at Nash or CP3 slowing down his man on top of the arc, their eyes are turned inwards playing all 9 pieces at warp speed to find the right solution. It's this cerebral athleticism that people call intangible.
The second intangible Lin has is his ability to control fear in face of expectations and failure. This skill is comparable to a high wire daredevil's skill to walk across death defying heights. To walk in balance in a straight line sounds easy, I'll bet everyone in this forum can walk across a 10 ft plank 1 ft off the ground. Put that same plank across the top of a skyscraper and then just taking one step is impossible. Very few athletes have that innate ability. More often, it's learnt through repeated exposure to the pressure. The bigger the prize, the more the pressure. Lebron couldn't handle it in Cleveland. He needed 2 other franchise players to steady him in his quest to win his first ring.
In 109 minutes, Houston's starting lineup [Asik, D-Mo, Parsons, Harden, Lin] has an offensive rating of 121.3 and a defensive rating of 98.4 [JFriedman]
They had david Lee jeremy Lin danilo gallinari just to.name 3... And they decided to put the ball in jr and melo's hands. It's rather painful see jason kidd being a spot up shooter....
Sorry for Novak shump and Tyson.... The rest deserve to fall in pieces
they traded good player to get "stars" now they got a decent team but they're stick with heroball for melo and jr... They spend more than 10 seconds in tryin to get the ball to.melo....
Their main force is Tyson... Without him they're nothing. Chandler gives them the chance to brick all the shots they want cause he grabs rebounds or tip off... Really a great player. I'd really like to see him with jeremy again....
Knicks mentality is to win now, no more, no less. they don't have any patience and they believe they don't have any time to train younger players. looks to me that's part of the reason why Dolan let Jeremy go for nothing.he believes Jeremy is not vital for a championship run. Some Knicks fan and Jeremy haters seriously believe Chris Copeland is way better than Jeremy and can take them to promised land.
The Knicks never developed their players, their D-League system is a joke, guys in their D-League have no chance of being called up. They want "proven stars", but the ones they get are always too old, reached their peak, or washed up. Young men like Gallinari, David Lee, Tony Douglas, etc. are happy to be out of there, because New York is a career dead end, a place to retire and make money.
The way Knicks handle Lin situation , I feel so sick and they showing no class . Lin was the reason that make Knicks into payoff last year , and discover all the talent player for the organization , instead they stabbed him from behind . I also remember how Jason Kid trying to hurt Lin , they are very bad to the sport......I am sorry but that were just too negative .
How did Jason Kidd try to hurt Lin? I don't remember that, do you have a link? And if i remember correctly, Jason Kidd only signed with the Knicks believing that Knicks will actually keep Lin so they could play together and he could mentor him.
Kid was playing for the other team against Lin at that time .You should able to find the video from YouTube easily . In NBA history , how many times you heard player saying something like "mentor" to the other player , it is a term of insult, in USA everybody respect the other for the same profession , you do not say say that unless you intend to insult him .
I think that is one of the reason that David Stern want to retire , time changed , there are a lot of things getting out of hands . I have been following the games for along time , I can see that too .
Lost in the Dragic vs. Lin discussion is the brutal truth that Lin has led Houston to the playoffs and Dragic's Rockets missed the playoffs entirely last year.
Goran Dragic and Kyle Lowry had a much more veteran team than Lin does this year. They had real pick setters and big men in Luis Scola and Samuel Dalembert, one of the most athletic small forwards in the NBA in Chase Budinger, Kevin Martin who is regarded as a BAD defensive player but is 10000000x better than James Harden, and even Courtney Lee firing off the bench. Compared to the minimum age/wage 2013 Rockets, Goran Dragic's 2012 Rockets were way more stacked and STILL they missed the playoffs.
That's why if the Rockets and especially Kevin McHale want Dragic back, they can HAVE HIM. Send Lin over to the Suns and let Lin turn around that last place team.
Oh man..... I wish the Rockets and the Suns WOULD SWAPLin and Dragic, as one of the options for Lin! *LOVE* it! Great for Jeremy and he can play with the Morris twin - I like them.
It's interesting that Dragic credited McHale with getting his confidence back during his time in Houston.
KHuang and I noticed how Dragic lost his confidence when backing up Steve Nash during his first stint in PHX.
(Mark 1:58) Dragic 3/13 interview Reporter: "Where did Kevin helped you most?" Dragic: "Mostly getting my confidence back. Try to be me. Try to play my basketball. ..."
No doubt Lowry would have different opinion of McHale. Not sure what Jeremy would think in 2-3 years but one sure thing is he's overcoming the less-than-ideal situation in Houston and improving his ball-handling, spot-up shooting, defense rapidly.
Mchale is a big man with a extra S size heart . To be a good coach , you can not take things personal . A good example is Karl's Denver team , you can feel the way they play on the court and it show a lot of respect from the players to the coach .
Do You really consider Mchale coaching like a NBA coach yet ??? He never got any kind of training and he is not qualified yet. Just keep an eye during the timeout how he make the call , you can see he did not have the knowledge and confident as a coach .
Interesting that ParSON and Dragic look very similar. Maybe they look like his real sons. He gives ParSON a lot of confidence (by allowing him to play through his mistakes) the way he gave Dragic. Interesting parallel!
(If somehow ParSON is traded for another superstar, I wonder if McHale will blame that superstar and treat him like trash-green front sarcasm).
@Dan Dan, McHale has never been strong in X and O of coaching from his days in the Timberwolves. His strength has always been developing young players such as Kevin Garnett but not in game planning or in-game adjustment.
He's done quite well in developing young players in Houston because of his vast experience but it remains to be seen how he will coach in the playoff series. He might not be the coach to bring them championship but I gotta admit he's done a decent job with young players, especially the big men. His coaching for guards have certainly been suspect.
As much as some of us don't like him for not utilizing Lin's strength, McHale will not get fired if he brings Houston to the playoff. He's done some good for sure but he's a young coach, not an All-Star coach yet :)
i still think his substitution patterns are suspect, but then again he may have been told by morey early on to play certain players just to see if they want to keep them. they played toney douglas quite a bit only to trade him away. i still don't think he's a good x and o guy, or a in-game tactician but that's what his assistants are for. i also don't think he is fully utilizing lin's talent.
what i like about mchale is what he brings to the table as a long time professional basketball player at the highest level. he knows what it takes to get it done and he knows how hard you have to go every single game in order to succeed. reading his quote the other day about "recharging battery" really won me over. he may not always say the right things and do not have the most tact when it comes to speaking to reporters but he is very passionate about the game and wants his players to succeed. his method may not jive with your preferred method but at least he cares, and cares a lot.
i think he's a great coach for a young team like this - they need to know what it takes to make it and succeed in this league. many vet still don't get it. in a few years when these guys are older, they'll need someone good with x and o's to take them over the hump.
but for now, as for developing the team's mindset about the game, i like him as the coach. he demands quite a bit from these guys, because he knows it.
lin is super talented, and he will have plenty of opportunities in the future to play up to his potential; i don't doubt that. but i also think the foundational work that is being done now is valuable for him.
How is it possible that an McHale, ex-power forward develops Lin as a PG? Maybe that is why he is trying to develop Lin into a Fisher? To me Dragic is more of a SG than a PG. I know Carlisle was a PG so I can see him develops Lin into a great one.
McHale develops Lin by having him be the sole decisionmaker in a systemless system.
It is NOT an ideal way to develop players, but Lin has made it work.
Kyle Lowry hated McHale because as the sole decisionmaker, Lowry felt that McHale was blaming him for everything that went wrong with the team.
Lin being able to create plays on his own within McHale's systemless system means that Lin can thrive under any other coach that institutes even a minimum system.
It's definitely important to get a charismatic, somewhat intimidating HOF ex-player as a coach to command respect from these young guys and to get them to buy in. It's almost like a college basketball environment where the coach commands so much respect from the players.
I also see his deficiency in not utilizing Lin properly but I wonder how much input he got from Morey to try to mold Lin as an SG to complement Harden rather than a 1-2 equal punch where Lin might handle the ball more than Harden.
I am confident Lin is winning over his coaches with more winning plays like the "pep talk" in the Suns game backed up by strong defensive presence and offensive outbursts. Harden seems to be to laid back to fire up his teammates as a leader, his style might be more lead by the action.
When the team loses, and loses bad, and to teams that they shouldn't lose to, or go on long streaks, McHale becomes McShit, McBail, McSuck, McFail, etc. the demon that marginalizes Lin.
When the team wins ONE game, then everyone comes to his defense and he has "come around".
Well here's the facts. He is a terrible game coach. He is a good talent coach, but the hard work is done by Fitch/Sampson in the game, and he puts in his two cents and muck with the rotations during the game.
We win ONE game against a scrub team like Phoenix and everyone thinks we're going to the finals, when they kicked our ass just the game before.
You guys really think its McHale that was the catalyst in the win vs OKC? Hahaha yeah...Against good teams he is just about clueless, and Fitch/Sampson struggles to set things in motion, although they've been getting better at it, by simply allowing Lin to play his way against tough opponents.
But that changes nothing. McHale is still clueless on court, he needs a general like Lin.
And people bash KHuang when he says McHale doesn't realize Lin is running his system better than McHale realizes, but McHale keeps gimping himself by not letting him play. Lol that is like the absolute truth.
i don't see anyone here saying he is a good game coach. i said i'm coming around on him being a good head coach for this team but that doesn't mean i'm buying into his ability (or lack thereof) of being a good game-time coach.
my reasons that i've stated above has nothing to do with making decisions during games (or even winning games), but rather the development and maturation of the players (not in terms of skill set but mindset) as professional nba players, which i think is more important in this stage of their careers then wins and losses and how to properly shoot a jumper.
the head coach of a nba team rarely gets involved in doing drills and fundamentals - these guys are nba players and should know the fundamentals by now. if not that's what team trainers are for. so to say that mchale wasn't a pg so can't help develop lin is missing the point.
and no, he was not the catalyst in the win in okc and most other wins. in fact morey has said that based on studies, a head coach doesn't directly effect wins and losses at all in any given game. but over the long run i'm sure he can play a big part in how ready his players are to play the game with the right mindset and attitude, especially with a young team like this.
John Reid @dailynewsjohn Pinewood girls basketball coach Doc Scheppler is watching "Linsanity" tonight in the city. The documentary is on Ex-Paly star Jeremy Lin. 9:24 PM - 14 Mar 13
Joe Freeman @BlazerFreeman Raymond Felton update: As we near the end of the 3rd Q, Felton is 3-10 from the field w/ 6 pts, 3 asts, 3 rebs and 1 to. His +/- is -11. 9:25 PM - 14 Mar 13 · Details
LA Lakers RotoHomer @RotoHomer @BlazerFreeman @HowardBeckNYT so in other words, Jeremy Lin outplays Felton again (even when Jeremy Lin doesn't play). 9:29 PM - 14 Mar 13
OT: It sucks being a Knicks fan. Forum fans are finally recognizing that we let Lin go for NOTHING and he is 100x better than Felton or any other guard we have on the roster.
NYK wasn't ideal for Lin but HOU sure as hell isn't either. At least NYK fans loved Lin.
Robin Lundberg @robinlundberg 1-800-919-3776 is the Battered Knicks Fan hotline on @ESPNNY98_7FM ...I'm not here to gang up, just to console. 10:16 PM - 14 Mar 13
i am a New Yorker and a Knick fan, but Knicks broke my heart when they let Jeremy go. Of course I still want Knicks to do well, but I want Jeremy to do even better. Jeremy was the reason Knicks made the playoffs last year, and they thanked him by trashing him. Felton is a pompous, mediocre punk who had the nerve to claim to the press that he "is much better than Lin, no comparison" Well, why isn't Felton riding to the rescue now that Melo and Amare are out again? Come on Raymod, where is Felton-sanity? Out to lunch, I guess.
Knicks fans and their media are simply too dramatic. I dislike the Knicks as much as the next person but fact is that they are still 3rd seed in the East despite missing Melo, Chandler and Amare. What do they expect? A couple of losses don't change that they are having a good season and are in a prime position to go to the 2nd round of playoffs.
Sadly I don't see Knicks going to second round of the play offs. First round, for sure, but their team is too old and injured. Everyone was afraid they would get gassed after the All Star break, and it seems to be happening. We New Yorkers get our hopes up year after year, but they just can't seem to get that chemistry that will take them all the way. I hope I am wrong, but I doubt it. Jeremy could have been the spark they needed, but we will never know, will we? :(
Knicks are not prefect but they should be favorite in the East against any teams not named Miami and Indy. I didn't they will surely advance to the 2nd round. I just said they are still in a good position to do so. You can't deny that they have talent with their huge payroll.
Lin would have gotten better stats this year in NY (and more respect among casual fans) since he'd have Felton's role in handling the ball, running PnR with Chandler and sometimes Melo, and taking 15 shots a game.
The KHuang and ConservativeNewMedia YouTube guy viewpoint is that being in Houston makes him a more complete player, and I'm inclined to agree. Whether this is correct will have to wait till next season to be verified. Or in the playoffs, if Lin just explodes in the first round.
For the record, I still think Sampson is a fool, and McHale is clueless. It takes 60 games into the season for the team to run some high PnRs for Lin?! -- got to fucking kidding me.
"For the record, I still think Sampson is a fool, and McHale is clueless. It takes 60 games into the season for the team to run some high PnRs for Lin?!" - Can they REALLY be this clueless..?
I'm sorry but FUCK Houston. Are the rumors true that HOU is putting out feelers to see if anyone is interested in Lin or Asik this summer? If so, then fuck them x2.
Yes, making Lin play off the ball and play in a system that doesn't maximize his strengths will make Lin a more complete player but it doesn't mean shit when they're putting out feelers to get rid of him (if this is true).
Lin will become a more complete player (to me, that's means solid) but he won't maximize his potential there playing next to a ball dominate guard and within a 3 pg system. They have a SPECIFIC role they want him to play and it's a role that doesn't maximize his strengths.
I'm with via, Why da fuq did take them so long to run some high pnr's for him?
The short answer is because Morey likes to gather data for different lineups in his Houston Rockets Mutual Fund. He managed to package PPat/TD/Aldridge for #5 draft pick in TRob. Buy low, sell high.
The longer answer is they want to see if Harden and Lin can play together. It turns out they complement each other (Harden in O and Lin in D) so they will stay for the time being until DHoward comes knocking at the door (wishful thinking).
well, McHale is a great leader for his young guns but just an average coach. He's somewhat useful to make his players block correctly to clean up the horse poop :)
Not every coach can be Phil Jackson so we'll just have to live with him for now.
"the high pick'n'rolls were there but they didn't have the right personnel to run it till now. d'mo and TRob can both finish at the rim. "
You are right about the personnel not being right for conventional 1-5 or 1-4 PnR. But on a basic level, the idea is very simple -- Lin has an incredible first step, and McHale & Company could not figure out how to use it. It's that simple. Instead Lin had to create for himself if he wanted to penetrate. He had to beat his own man and also figure out how to deal with the secondary defender.
In the last game, Lin got a double screen, one from Harden and another from a big, to get into the paint. It's not standard PnR but it's one way to do it and it took 60 games to do something like this. (Dantoni has a million variations on PnR.) And from the very beginning, the Harden-Lin PnR has worked from the very beginning, but the coaches never developed it, bc they wanted Harden with the ball instead of Lin as the ball handler using the screen.
Even simpler stuff, like Lin getting a ball handoff from the guy in the wing -- Harden gets this ALL THE TIME, but Lin rarely gets screens set for him. So it's not all about the right personnel at the 4 and 5 spots. There are only a few elite roll men in the league, but PnR is the most common play in the league, so that argument doesn't fly as far as I'm concerned.
OccupatiO, we also saw more pnr for lin the last game because harden is injured and there was a more concerted effort to run lin as option 1.
rest of the time, with harden healthy, lin doesn't get as many of those plays as harden.
the handoff stuff you see when harden is on the bench with lin playing with beverley, and lin playing the harden role. for some reason they've stopped staggering harden/lin minutes so we don't see that as much either.
Just saw the Knicks lose. I realize Felton and Lin have comparable stats on paper ( as some Knicks fans in denial like to argue), Lin is sooo much better than Felton if you actually watch them play. Jeremy plays faster but more in control despite the faster pace, has much better court vision, quicker, better decision maker. I was actually surprised how bad Felton is.
I think Felton clearly benefited from playing with more proven stars earlier in the year, and against weaker competition in the east.. The fact the Jeremy's stats are slightly better than his speaks volumes as to how "deceptively" good Lin has been.
Once Lin starts getting more consistent, watch the whole Knicks fan base fall apart. How da hell did they just let this kid go for nothing. For nothing!
Felton pg conference is funny.. Kid doesn't get it. Says he never booed like this ever. What do u expect when u come out of shape to start the season.
One striking he said about Nate McMillan, his coach last year.. That he never had a coach who never believed in him and that affected his play... Hmmm.. Lucky he is not playing for someone like McHale.
Felton: "I'm a free agent so maybe those bloggers and those people who write won't have to see me again. Maybe they won't, until I'm coming in on the other end and droppin' 50 on 'em." [6/18/12]
oregonlive/blazers @blazersblog If you add up Raymond Felton's minutes, points, rebounds, steals and assists, it totals 49. That's like 50 points, right? 10:13 PM - 14 Mar 13
Maybe sometime in the very near future, Dolan wakes up one day and decides to sell the team to a billionaire who loves the Knicks (Michael Bloomberg). He fires everybody on the staff and hires competent people and brings Phoenix medical staff over and brings Lin back to the NY where he belongs. I can only dream right?
Yeah, I have to give it to the fans in ny. They really loved him to death and the energy they provided clearly fueled Lin as well.
People blame Dolan only but grunnie was a big part of it too. Only had they made a reasonable offer instead of allowing Lin to test the market. They wouldn't look so pathetic now.
Another thing I noticed is how old the team is.. Just looking at these players on the bench. It is a clear contrast to the rocket players I have seeing most of the season. Just visually the difference is even more striking.
Can't wait till the playoffs when they will be able to see what Lin brings to the game.
haha yup, alcsd :D The Knicks and MSG are the geese laying the golden eggs for Dolan and his ego. Can't imagine he ever sell it. But we can sure dream.
The funny thing is he will bid for Lin to come back when he's 35 for $120M! LOL The man sure likes his veterans.
the financial excuse that Dolan is avoiding being hit by luxury tax. well, I think if he re-signed Jeremy, he should really review the $ 100 million contract he gave Stoudemire.
Place was packed at Castro Theater. There was a huge VIP section, which I'm guessing is for people involved in the CAAM festival which filled up the middle section of the theater. Lin's parents were in the audience and stood up at the end after director Evan Leong pointed them out. The film was the headliner and opening documentary for the CAAM Festival in SF.
It was a totally packed house 1300 people. People were lined up early and lots were wearing Lin shirts and jerseys. Approx 90% Asian (it is also an Asian festival).
The documentary itself is simply amazing. Tons of candid moments and Jeremy's great sense of humor (tons of laugh out loud and hard to stop laughing moments created by Jeremy) and humility in dealing with difficult situations (sterotypes, racism) were highlighted time and time again. He is really head and shoulders above most people in terms of being enlightened...very classy person. His character is one of a kind and I think thats why we all root for him.
Also, you realize Lin is not naive in any way - he may seem passive to use, but he knows what is going on at all times and will use things he does not like to He knows when people are trying to show him up and he uses it fuel his game (i.e. Kobe or John Wall) - Lin played extra hard against those guys and gives some commentary. For example, he threw down that dunk extra hard in the game against Wall after Wall had a strong dunk on him earlier in the game. There were also a lot of other candid moments like Lin hanging out in his brothers apartment before the Lakers game, which were really cool.
News stations were there. Warriors owner Jacob Lacob who I believe said Lin was a "minimum, inexpensive asset" at some point was there (though in the movie he is depicted as a major Lin supporter). And I believe some of his other coaches like Doc and his high school coach may have been there also.
Ok, I don't want to spoil it any more. It's a great documentary - a must see. One of the classics that is so uplifting that makes you feel like you can achieve anything and overcome any obstacle.
Thanks for letting us know, @Stu! There have only been good reviews on the docu, looks like the cast and crew did a really good job. [Glad you had a good time at the screening and your nephew's birthday!] ^^
Man, Stu you made me impatient to only watch the Blu-Ray DVD in Sept :)
Thanks for the in-person reporting. Wow, Jacob Lacob also came? He must really be a Lin fan to come not caring if people make fun of the fact that he let go of Lin (although not really 100% his fault).
Glad you had a ball at the BDay party. Did your nephew know it's his 1st birthday? :D I still remember my son cried on his 1st birthday party because all day long everyone ignored him to cook and prepare for the party then all of a sudden everyone sang for him during the party LOL
Just visited my nephew at his my sister's workplace, his daycare. He was babbling and moving way more than I remember. He didn't know what was going on - just had way more visitors than usual. He was also trying to steal a pan with fake bacon from another little boy named James at the day care, ironically - lol, though the two are friends.
Joe Lacob's son also use to play against Lin in basketball as a youth and Lacob liked Jeremy.
@Stu~ "He was also trying to steal a pan with fake bacon from another little boy named James..." - Clearly your nephew had discovered that you can never have enough "bacon" [and was trying to get a head start, lol.]
"Joe Lacob's son also use to play against Lin in basketball as a youth and Lacob liked Jeremy." - Heard Lacob was the one who championed JLin's signing with GSW...
Gifts:...A JLin poster -> Starting him early haha.
@psalm~ About your son's bday, so cute...I'm a heartless adult to find a young boy's anguish funny smh, was it your eldest? :)
A team missing its top 3 players played a boarderline playoffs team on the road and was still within 4 points in 4th quarter. They actually didn't do too bad. Knicks fans and their media are simply overreacting. It's hilarious though lol. :-p
Let's say if the Rockets missed Harden, Asik and Parsons, Lin and other teammates probably wouldn't do too well against a team like the Blazers either.
one of the ammunition used by haters is Jeremy thrived and did well with the Knicks because he was surrounded with lots of shooters - from Melo to Smith to Fields to Novak...o-kay
Lin not only a coach killah but ref killah too. Lin derailed the refs plan to give the game to the Suns. The refs almost gave the game to the Lakers, but Dahntay overheard the refs secret and decided to crash the party. The refs have regrouped and more determined. The Rockets are going to lose to Wolves and Lakers are beating the Pacers tonight. Watch me gloat. I told you so it was the refs.
I can easily imagine the refs trying to make sure that the Lakers make the playoffs at the Rockets' (and Jazz and Warriors) expense.
On the other hand, basketball is still played by the players and the Lakers do have one of the highest payrolls in the NBA. Even with Bryant and Pau Gasol injured, they do have Steve Nash and Dwight Howard.
If the Lakers do make the playoffs at the Rockets' expense, they will still end up playing some powerhouse team like San Antonio or LAC or Memphis. Thus a playoff berth won't last long
Keep in mind that I am a NBA fan and thus don't truly root even for Lin and the Rockets. I just want to see good clean basketball where the outcome is decided by the players and not the refs. Even in the NBA, that can happen.
So an interesting read on clutch this morning. Some guy named cyberx had a lunch with a rockets executive and had some inside info. I know sounds fishy but apparently he has done this before and was found to be legit.
Some tidbit, Rox going after milsap or smith this offseason.
Rox signed Lin only after dragic fell thru. They like dragic but favors Lin because all the marketing dollars Lin brings in. And the amount that Lin has brought in this year is "wow".
Not happy with some of McHale's coaching decisions ESP playing harden too many minutes.
Worried about losing Sampson.
U can check it out for yourself. If this is true, I guess Lin is not going anywhere. But Lin does have to realize he has a lot of leverage.
Lin has a lot of BASKETBALL leverage, regardless of marketing.
I suspect that the coaching staff outside of McHale, particularly Sampson, fully recognizes Lin's ability and wants to see Lin do more and Harden do less.
I am minimally disappointed because I was hoping that the Rockets would try to trade Lin to my hometown Suns for Goran Dragic. On the other hand, I as a Suns "follower" (not "fan") have no desire for Lin to have to put up with the ineptness of Suns management.
Very interesting especially the "wow" money that Lin has brought in. That must have been from advertising revenues from Chinese companies? I thought alcsd mentioned it will be distributed among all NBA teams.
KHuang, as much as I like Lin to be in Phoenix, I'm more scared about the owner penny-pinching on all players, selling draft picks, etc. I refuse to be a fan after they traded Nash. It's the last straw for me. They only want to get to playoff to get more money. At least Les and Morey have real aspiration to pursue championships.
First of all, I don't believe that poster. I think he is a bunch of BS. Read carefully what that poster writes. A lot of what he writes is BS. You can't rewrite Parson contract (look up under CBA). He guesses just like anyone about money made from Lin. He is BSing. I can't believe people fall for it.
Advertising money made inside the Toyota Center are for Les to keep, but TV ads and oversea TV ads that carry Rockets games are not. I did mention it. Go back and read that part.
Parson will get paid when his current expires which will be in 2 years. He is in his 2nd of his 4th year contract. He will be an unrestricted agent.
I stand by what I wrote about advertising money. ONLY advertising made INSIDE the Toyota Center is for Les to keep. Meaning when you watch them on TV, you do see signs at Toyota Center (such as Maxxis Tires, Volvo etc) or Chinese characters that Coke used to do with MSG.
oh, ok I got it now. So Les gets to keep advertising revenue in the TC building so there might be enough money for Les to keep Lin.
I got the impression it could be real but the guy might not have much knowledge of when they'll try to rework the contract with Parsons. Apparently he did the same "leak" for the Bulls not matching Houston's offer on Asik last year.
Makes me wonder if it could be "intentional leaks" approved by mgmt if he can provide another leak.
On top of that he mentioned that they chose Lin over Dragic because of advertising money. How did the Rockets know that Knicks were not going to match when they decided not to offer Dragic 4th year player option? If both Lin and Dragic were unrestricted and Rockets talk to both guys within 1 day of each other and decided to choose Lin over Dragic, then okay I will buy that logic. If he was going to lie, please do it convincingly.
Regarding Asik, Bulls owner had a history of being cheap. It didn't take a rocket scientist to know that they weren't going to match. Next year, Bulls will go over cap because I do believe because of what Rose's brother wrote about Bulls not surrounding Rose with talents.
True, that was the weak part of the story. The timing was right because the 1st offer ($19M)to Lin happened one day after the Suns gave Dragic $30M/4yr contract.
But the Rockets didn't have any guarantee that the Knicks won't match this contract. My suspicion for that 2nd offer was always planned to hopefully make the Knicks fold but the Rockets would have to have a Knicks insider to be confident that the Knicks wouldn't match.
Hm, idk if I trust this guy even 80% because he's just sharing generalities with the exception of some specifics (i.e. mgmt didn't like McHale rotation in Bucks/Wizards game). He did have a consistent record using 2006 account to provide leaks so unless he craves trolling or reps, he might have some version of truth. I mean what would be his ulterior motive and his payoff?
There are a lot of sick people who crave for attending such as trolling. Heck, there are some on this board.
If I remember correctly, the day that Lin went over to visit Rockets, was it the day or the day after that Dragic agreed to sign with the Suns? The main reason the Morey doesn't give out player option is because it makes more difficult to trade if the player doesn't work out.
There was no way they know that Knicks wasn't going to match. Even if there was an intention of the 2nd offer, how would they know that the Knicks wasn't going to match? Dolan has a history of spending.
I do want to add that the Bulls has NEVER paid luxury tax before. So the guessing that the Bulls wasn't going to match was a no-brainer. Next year is the first time that the Bulls will have to pay luxury tax.
I wish there is a way I can edit what I wrote. I would probably abuse it more than anyone on this board. A lot of times I know there were a lot of grammatical errors and spelling mistakes, but I just left it.
I'm going to this tonight. I'll post comments. Just happened to be in Bay Area for my nephews 1st birthday tonight
ReplyDeletehave fun, Stu. Share your experience with us including the bday party report :)
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DeleteI ENVY YOU :)
Have a great time at the screening, @Stu! :)
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Any idea if Linsanity Documentary will feature in L.A.?
ReplyDeleteIn honor of the CAAMFEST and what Jlin has meant to us Asian American Men, I'd like to refer back to this hilarious Jeremy Lin Effect video (sorry forgot how to hyperlink):https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5GVMWl2Z-Y .
ReplyDeleteI just realized that the Houston's 20-2 run with 5 min left in the 2Q was sparked by getting Dragic into early foul trouble with his 3rd foul which sent him to the bench.
ReplyDeleteDragic just drained his 3PT and assisted Dudley with his 3PT to take 43-48. This led to a timeout when Lin had his "pep talk" about wanting the game more than the Suns and they needed to play D.
Immediately, Lin got Dragic's 2nd foul and G.Smith got his 3rd foul in the next possessions. Dragic went to the bench and the Rockets got 20-2 run to lead by 58-45.
I think Lin got his payback in getting Dragic into foul trouble and out of the game after Dragic baited Lin to foul his elbow with Lin's chin and eventually fouled out.
Perhaps his talk with AB about stopping Curry as an explosive scorer by attacking them on defense triggered a light bulb for Jeremy.
Dragic was the head of the snake and Curry was for the GSW, if you cut off the head of the snake, you basically guarantee the win.
I expect Lin will take his new discovery to intentionally attack the opposing PG to get them into foul trouble or spending so much time on D, they're ineffective in their O. So it's not enough for him to play shutdown D, it's better to attack them on the O side.
I think Jeremy just became a lot more dangerous with this realization!
I don't think Lin did anything different this game as opposed to last game.
DeleteThe refs did A LOT different, though.
Its aaron brooks...he probably told lin how to deal with dragic like curry, which again was AB's idea. Lin was markedly different afterwards. Dragic just wasn't effective at all after the break.
DeleteBtw there's nothing wrong with taking advice from a more veteran player it takes nothing away from lin.
It's also a change in Lin's mental approach, KHuang.
DeleteIn Phoenix, Dragic was the aggressor and the ref sure gave home-discount calls.
But in Houston, Lin was the aggressor and managed to get Dragic into foul trouble quickly.
It's definitely not a new concept but it would benefit Lin greatly to not burn so much energy chasing other PGs but he can put the opposing PG on their heels on offense by attacking them and render them ineffective on the offensive end.
I think all us Lin fans forgot to discuss something that is so exciting and yet nervewrecking! I have pins and needles about how Lin does in the playoffs! As much as we think Lin is already a great player, as many of us come to know it is what a player do in playoffs that truly define how great you are and can make a star and all star into a superstars! Can wait to hear what you all have to say and with some supporting evidence if I may, like "Lin loves to thrive on the spot light, when the pressure is on!" Lol
ReplyDeleteMarch 14, 2013 at 1:04 PM
In the other thread, I posted that Jeremy Lin will RAISE HIS GAME in the playoffs.
DeleteAnytime a player as athletically dominating and as fundamentally sound as Lin gets pressured in the playoffs, he raises his game.
I don't know about this "star making" business, given that the NBA has anointed guys like Kyrie Irving and Kevin Love as "superstars" even though neither of them will be in the playoffs anytime soon. That's media hype, and I don't concern myself with that other than to DEBUNK it.
What I do know is that in a pure basketball sense, Jeremy Lin's game is tailor made for NBA playoff pressure basketball.
A lot of player's game could be predictable , since Lin has the feel for the game , he can adjust the way to play according to the game situation . It is very difficult for the opponent during the playoff , they need to pick the poison of stopping him or stopping his team.
DeleteThe difference between how harden attacks is that he uses his own treamondous skills to score. In his mind, he sees the options and utilizes the situation to beat his opponent with his speed, strength and skills. Lin on the other hand has attacks with 5 people in his mind. The variables of all the skills available to him is like a player with 4 extra sets of arms and legs acting as one. This cerebral athleticism is what separates good PGs from great ones. It's literally speed chess with 9 other pieces on the board. If you look at Nash or CP3 slowing down his man on top of the arc, their eyes are turned inwards playing all 9 pieces at warp speed to find the right solution. It's this cerebral athleticism that people call intangible.
DeleteThe second intangible Lin has is his ability to control fear in face of expectations and failure. This skill is comparable to a high wire daredevil's skill to walk across death defying heights. To walk in balance in a straight line sounds easy, I'll bet everyone in this forum can walk across a 10 ft plank 1 ft off the ground. Put that same plank across the top of a skyscraper and then just taking one step is impossible. Very few athletes have that innate ability. More often, it's learnt through repeated exposure to the pressure. The bigger the prize, the more the pressure. Lebron couldn't handle it in Cleveland. He needed 2 other franchise players to steady him in his quest to win his first ring.
If Jeremy Lin fully mastered the spin dribble, he'd become totally unstoppable.
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ReplyDeleteIn 109 minutes, Houston's starting lineup [Asik, D-Mo, Parsons, Harden, Lin] has an offensive rating of 121.3 and a defensive rating of 98.4
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Woody: If only we have someone with "the consistent speed and quickness to get into the paint and make plays"...
DeleteSeller remorse, anyone?
DeleteYou gotta feel bad for the Knicks fans under Dolan.
You let go of a future All-Star and marketing All-Star like Lin for nothing just because of a perceived slight.
Now they might have Delonte West joining JKidd and Chandler to form Mavs reunion in the Knicks.
Dolan dropped the L from Linsanity and are left with insanity. He really doesn't deserve the Knicks franchise.
I thought Felton was that guard... Lol... Can't wait to see him chuck up 30 shots tonight against Portland... They really really hate him there.
DeleteHahahahahaaha :D
DeleteThey had david Lee jeremy Lin danilo gallinari just to.name 3... And they decided to put the ball in jr and melo's hands. It's rather painful see jason kidd being a spot up shooter....
Sorry for Novak shump and Tyson.... The rest deserve to fall in pieces
Maybe the message wasn't understandable :D
Deletethey traded good player to get "stars" now they got a decent team but they're stick with heroball for melo and jr... They spend more than 10 seconds in tryin to get the ball to.melo....
Their main force is Tyson... Without him they're nothing. Chandler gives them the chance to brick all the shots they want cause he grabs rebounds or tip off... Really a great player. I'd really like to see him with jeremy again....
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DeleteKnicks mentality is to win now, no more, no less. they don't have any patience and they believe they don't have any time to train younger players. looks to me that's part of the reason why Dolan let Jeremy go for nothing.he believes Jeremy is not vital for a championship run. Some Knicks fan and Jeremy haters seriously believe Chris Copeland is way better than Jeremy and can take them to promised land.
DeleteThe Knicks never developed their players, their D-League system is a joke, guys in their D-League have no chance of being called up. They want "proven stars", but the ones they get are always too old, reached their peak, or washed up. Young men like Gallinari, David Lee, Tony Douglas, etc. are happy to be out of there, because New York is a career dead end, a place to retire and make money.
DeleteThe way Knicks handle Lin situation , I feel so sick and they showing no class . Lin was the reason that make Knicks into payoff last year , and discover all the talent player for the organization , instead they stabbed him from behind . I also remember how Jason Kid trying to hurt Lin , they are very bad to the sport......I am sorry but that were just too negative .
DeleteHow did Jason Kidd try to hurt Lin? I don't remember that, do you have a link? And if i remember correctly, Jason Kidd only signed with the Knicks believing that Knicks will actually keep Lin so they could play together and he could mentor him.
Deletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-H3MRf5J78
Deleteshould've been a flagrant on kidd.
Kid was playing for the other team against Lin at that time .You should able to find the video from YouTube easily . In NBA history , how many times you heard player saying something like "mentor" to the other player , it is a term of insult, in USA everybody respect the other for the same profession , you do not say say that unless you intend to insult him .
DeleteF Kidd. He was a dirty player and never was going to mentor Lin.
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DeleteIf you follow the game good enough , you knew that Kidds was a bad apple in locker room , and he is a sneaky person.
DeleteSweet, just watched that link above. Intentional and disrespectful, no sign of apology there. My bad guys, screw Kidd haha.
DeleteI think that is one of the reason that David Stern want to retire , time changed , there are a lot of things getting out of hands . I have been following the games for along time , I can see that too .
DeleteLost in the Dragic vs. Lin discussion is the brutal truth that Lin has led Houston to the playoffs and Dragic's Rockets missed the playoffs entirely last year.
DeleteGoran Dragic and Kyle Lowry had a much more veteran team than Lin does this year. They had real pick setters and big men in Luis Scola and Samuel Dalembert, one of the most athletic small forwards in the NBA in Chase Budinger, Kevin Martin who is regarded as a BAD defensive player but is 10000000x better than James Harden, and even Courtney Lee firing off the bench. Compared to the minimum age/wage 2013 Rockets, Goran Dragic's 2012 Rockets were way more stacked and STILL they missed the playoffs.
That's why if the Rockets and especially Kevin McHale want Dragic back, they can HAVE HIM. Send Lin over to the Suns and let Lin turn around that last place team.
KHuang,
DeleteOh man..... I wish the Rockets and the Suns WOULD SWAPLin and Dragic, as one of the options for Lin! *LOVE* it! Great for Jeremy and he can play with the Morris twin - I like them.
It's interesting that Dragic credited McHale with getting his confidence back during his time in Houston.
ReplyDeleteKHuang and I noticed how Dragic lost his confidence when backing up Steve Nash during his first stint in PHX.
(Mark 1:58) Dragic 3/13 interview
Reporter: "Where did Kevin helped you most?"
Dragic: "Mostly getting my confidence back. Try to be me. Try to play my basketball. ..."
No doubt Lowry would have different opinion of McHale. Not sure what Jeremy would think in 2-3 years but one sure thing is he's overcoming the less-than-ideal situation in Houston and improving his ball-handling, spot-up shooting, defense rapidly.
Mchale is a big man with a extra S size heart . To be a good coach , you can not take things personal . A good example is Karl's Denver team , you can feel the way they play on the court and it show a lot of respect from the players to the coach .
DeleteDo You really consider Mchale coaching like a NBA coach yet ??? He never got any kind of training and he is not qualified yet. Just keep an eye during the timeout how he make the call , you can see he did not have the knowledge and confident as a coach .
DeleteInteresting that ParSON and Dragic look very similar. Maybe they look like his real sons. He gives ParSON a lot of confidence (by allowing him to play through his mistakes) the way he gave Dragic. Interesting parallel!
Delete(If somehow ParSON is traded for another superstar, I wonder if McHale will blame that superstar and treat him like trash-green front sarcasm).
I can explain ParSON and Dragic is under "old school "system , and Lin and Kryle is belong to "new school " system , you got it .ha ha ha
Delete@Dan Dan, McHale has never been strong in X and O of coaching from his days in the Timberwolves. His strength has always been developing young players such as Kevin Garnett but not in game planning or in-game adjustment.
DeleteHe's done quite well in developing young players in Houston because of his vast experience but it remains to be seen how he will coach in the playoff series. He might not be the coach to bring them championship but I gotta admit he's done a decent job with young players, especially the big men. His coaching for guards have certainly been suspect.
As much as some of us don't like him for not utilizing Lin's strength, McHale will not get fired if he brings Houston to the playoff. He's done some good for sure but he's a young coach, not an All-Star coach yet :)
I'm starting to come around on mchale, big time.
Deletei still think his substitution patterns are suspect, but then again he may have been told by morey early on to play certain players just to see if they want to keep them. they played toney douglas quite a bit only to trade him away. i still don't think he's a good x and o guy, or a in-game tactician but that's what his assistants are for. i also don't think he is fully utilizing lin's talent.
what i like about mchale is what he brings to the table as a long time professional basketball player at the highest level. he knows what it takes to get it done and he knows how hard you have to go every single game in order to succeed. reading his quote the other day about "recharging battery" really won me over. he may not always say the right things and do not have the most tact when it comes to speaking to reporters but he is very passionate about the game and wants his players to succeed. his method may not jive with your preferred method but at least he cares, and cares a lot.
i think he's a great coach for a young team like this - they need to know what it takes to make it and succeed in this league. many vet still don't get it. in a few years when these guys are older, they'll need someone good with x and o's to take them over the hump.
but for now, as for developing the team's mindset about the game, i like him as the coach. he demands quite a bit from these guys, because he knows it.
lin is super talented, and he will have plenty of opportunities in the future to play up to his potential; i don't doubt that. but i also think the foundational work that is being done now is valuable for him.
How is it possible that an McHale, ex-power forward develops Lin as a PG? Maybe that is why he is trying to develop Lin into a Fisher? To me Dragic is more of a SG than a PG. I know Carlisle was a PG so I can see him develops Lin into a great one.
DeleteMcHale develops Lin by having him be the sole decisionmaker in a systemless system.
DeleteIt is NOT an ideal way to develop players, but Lin has made it work.
Kyle Lowry hated McHale because as the sole decisionmaker, Lowry felt that McHale was blaming him for everything that went wrong with the team.
Lin being able to create plays on his own within McHale's systemless system means that Lin can thrive under any other coach that institutes even a minimum system.
very well explained, @fighton. I agree 100%
DeleteIt's definitely important to get a charismatic, somewhat intimidating HOF ex-player as a coach to command respect from these young guys and to get them to buy in. It's almost like a college basketball environment where the coach commands so much respect from the players.
I also see his deficiency in not utilizing Lin properly but I wonder how much input he got from Morey to try to mold Lin as an SG to complement Harden rather than a 1-2 equal punch where Lin might handle the ball more than Harden.
I am confident Lin is winning over his coaches with more winning plays like the "pep talk" in the Suns game backed up by strong defensive presence and offensive outbursts. Harden seems to be to laid back to fire up his teammates as a leader, his style might be more lead by the action.
Lol this is such a broken record.
DeleteWhen the team loses, and loses bad, and to teams that they shouldn't lose to, or go on long streaks, McHale becomes McShit, McBail, McSuck, McFail, etc. the demon that marginalizes Lin.
When the team wins ONE game, then everyone comes to his defense and he has "come around".
Well here's the facts. He is a terrible game coach. He is a good talent coach, but the hard work is done by Fitch/Sampson in the game, and he puts in his two cents and muck with the rotations during the game.
We win ONE game against a scrub team like Phoenix and everyone thinks we're going to the finals, when they kicked our ass just the game before.
You guys really think its McHale that was the catalyst in the win vs OKC? Hahaha yeah...Against good teams he is just about clueless, and Fitch/Sampson struggles to set things in motion, although they've been getting better at it, by simply allowing Lin to play his way against tough opponents.
But that changes nothing. McHale is still clueless on court, he needs a general like Lin.
And people bash KHuang when he says McHale doesn't realize Lin is running his system better than McHale realizes, but McHale keeps gimping himself by not letting him play. Lol that is like the absolute truth.
Kenoshi,
Deletei don't see anyone here saying he is a good game coach. i said i'm coming around on him being a good head coach for this team but that doesn't mean i'm buying into his ability (or lack thereof) of being a good game-time coach.
my reasons that i've stated above has nothing to do with making decisions during games (or even winning games), but rather the development and maturation of the players (not in terms of skill set but mindset) as professional nba players, which i think is more important in this stage of their careers then wins and losses and how to properly shoot a jumper.
the head coach of a nba team rarely gets involved in doing drills and fundamentals - these guys are nba players and should know the fundamentals by now. if not that's what team trainers are for. so to say that mchale wasn't a pg so can't help develop lin is missing the point.
and no, he was not the catalyst in the win in okc and most other wins. in fact morey has said that based on studies, a head coach doesn't directly effect wins and losses at all in any given game. but over the long run i'm sure he can play a big part in how ready his players are to play the game with the right mindset and attitude, especially with a young team like this.
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ReplyDeleteLINE--SANITY! [Line @ CASTRO THEATER for Linsanity screening turns around the corner...]
ReplyDeleteJLIN'S PARENTS ON RED CARPET AT CAAMFEST OPENING NIGHT
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DeletePinewood girls basketball coach Doc Scheppler is watching "Linsanity" tonight in the city. The documentary is on Ex-Paly star Jeremy Lin.
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DeleteJLIN looks like his momma, even her demeanor is just like hers...
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ReplyDeleteRaymond Felton update: As we near the end of the 3rd Q, Felton is 3-10 from the field w/ 6 pts, 3 asts, 3 rebs and 1 to. His +/- is -11.
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@BlazerFreeman @HowardBeckNYT so in other words, Jeremy Lin outplays Felton again (even when Jeremy Lin doesn't play).
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This tweet is just too funny! LOL
DeleteHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA...
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DeleteOT: It sucks being a Knicks fan. Forum fans are finally recognizing that we let Lin go for NOTHING and he is 100x better than Felton or any other guard we have on the roster.
ReplyDeleteNYK wasn't ideal for Lin but HOU sure as hell isn't either. At least NYK fans loved Lin.
Sorry for going off on a tangent.
He always said [on his interviews] that he'd wanted to re-sign with NYX because of the NY fans.
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Delete1-800-919-3776 is the Battered Knicks Fan hotline on @ESPNNY98_7FM ...I'm not here to gang up, just to console.
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i am a New Yorker and a Knick fan, but Knicks broke my heart when they let Jeremy go. Of course I still want Knicks to do well, but I want Jeremy to do even better. Jeremy was the reason Knicks made the playoffs last year, and they thanked him by trashing him. Felton is a pompous, mediocre punk who had the nerve to claim to the press that he "is much better than Lin, no comparison" Well, why isn't Felton riding to the rescue now that Melo and Amare are out again? Come on Raymod, where is Felton-sanity? Out to lunch, I guess.
DeleteFelton is damn annoying. He talks so much shit about opposing PG's and teams he hates but then we he actually plays them, he plays like shit.
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DeleteNew York Knicks Just Might Be Missing Jeremy Lin After All
DeleteKnicks fans and their media are simply too dramatic. I dislike the Knicks as much as the next person but fact is that they are still 3rd seed in the East despite missing Melo, Chandler and Amare. What do they expect? A couple of losses don't change that they are having a good season and are in a prime position to go to the 2nd round of playoffs.
DeleteSadly I don't see Knicks going to second round of the play offs. First round, for sure, but their team is too old and injured. Everyone was afraid they would get gassed after the All Star break, and it seems to be happening. We New Yorkers get our hopes up year after year, but they just can't seem to get that chemistry that will take them all the way. I hope I am wrong, but I doubt it. Jeremy could have been the spark they needed, but we will never know, will we? :(
DeleteIt's good for Lin not to get stuck in an old and injuried team then.
DeleteKnicks are not prefect but they should be favorite in the East against any teams not named Miami and Indy. I didn't they will surely advance to the 2nd round. I just said they are still in a good position to do so. You can't deny that they have talent with their huge payroll.
DeleteRants Sports: Houston Rockets Thriving On Jeremy Lin’s Steady Performances
ReplyDeleteLin would have gotten better stats this year in NY (and more respect among casual fans) since he'd have Felton's role in handling the ball, running PnR with Chandler and sometimes Melo, and taking 15 shots a game.
ReplyDeleteThe KHuang and ConservativeNewMedia YouTube guy viewpoint is that being in Houston makes him a more complete player, and I'm inclined to agree. Whether this is correct will have to wait till next season to be verified. Or in the playoffs, if Lin just explodes in the first round.
For the record, I still think Sampson is a fool, and McHale is clueless. It takes 60 games into the season for the team to run some high PnRs for Lin?! -- got to fucking kidding me.
I think Lin would have learned a lot more though as a PG with Kidd as his teammate.
Delete"For the record, I still think Sampson is a fool, and McHale is clueless. It takes 60 games into the season for the team to run some high PnRs for Lin?!"
Delete- Can they REALLY be this clueless..?
@via I think it is down to their trust to Lin.
DeleteYeah @Brent, yet other players don't have to jump through hoops upon hoops to gain their trust...
DeleteI'm sorry but FUCK Houston. Are the rumors true that HOU is putting out feelers to see if anyone is interested in Lin or Asik this summer? If so, then fuck them x2.
DeleteYes, making Lin play off the ball and play in a system that doesn't maximize his strengths will make Lin a more complete player but it doesn't mean shit when they're putting out feelers to get rid of him (if this is true).
Lin will become a more complete player (to me, that's means solid) but he won't maximize his potential there playing next to a ball dominate guard and within a 3 pg system. They have a SPECIFIC role they want him to play and it's a role that doesn't maximize his strengths.
I'm with via, Why da fuq did take them so long to run some high pnr's for him?
The short answer is because Morey likes to gather data for different lineups in his Houston Rockets Mutual Fund. He managed to package PPat/TD/Aldridge for #5 draft pick in TRob. Buy low, sell high.
DeleteThe longer answer is they want to see if Harden and Lin can play together. It turns out they complement each other (Harden in O and Lin in D) so they will stay for the time being until DHoward comes knocking at the door (wishful thinking).
Business as usual in the Moreyball world :)
the high pick'n'rolls were there but they didn't have the right personnel to run it till now. d'mo and TRob can both finish at the rim.
Deleteasik can't, and morris and ppat were horrible pick setters.
now the d'mo and TRob has had some time to practice with the team, hopefully we'll see a good diet of high pnr from this point forward.
so does that mean, bottom line is McHale is threading between incompetent and useless coach?
Deletewell, McHale is a great leader for his young guns but just an average coach.
DeleteHe's somewhat useful to make his players block correctly to clean up the horse poop :)
Not every coach can be Phil Jackson so we'll just have to live with him for now.
@psalm - not everyone can run a practice like COLONEL SANDERS
Delete"the high pick'n'rolls were there but they didn't have the right personnel to run it till now. d'mo and TRob can both finish at the rim. "
DeleteYou are right about the personnel not being right for conventional 1-5 or 1-4 PnR. But on a basic level, the idea is very simple -- Lin has an incredible first step, and McHale & Company could not figure out how to use it. It's that simple. Instead Lin had to create for himself if he wanted to penetrate. He had to beat his own man and also figure out how to deal with the secondary defender.
In the last game, Lin got a double screen, one from Harden and another from a big, to get into the paint. It's not standard PnR but it's one way to do it and it took 60 games to do something like this. (Dantoni has a million variations on PnR.) And from the very beginning, the Harden-Lin PnR has worked from the very beginning, but the coaches never developed it, bc they wanted Harden with the ball instead of Lin as the ball handler using the screen.
Even simpler stuff, like Lin getting a ball handoff from the guy in the wing -- Harden gets this ALL THE TIME, but Lin rarely gets screens set for him. So it's not all about the right personnel at the 4 and 5 spots. There are only a few elite roll men in the league, but PnR is the most common play in the league, so that argument doesn't fly as far as I'm concerned.
PREACH!
DeleteLin doesn't need the high pick and roll.
DeleteHe simply just needs the ball.
OccupatiO, we also saw more pnr for lin the last game because harden is injured and there was a more concerted effort to run lin as option 1.
Deleterest of the time, with harden healthy, lin doesn't get as many of those plays as harden.
the handoff stuff you see when harden is on the bench with lin playing with beverley, and lin playing the harden role. for some reason they've stopped staggering harden/lin minutes so we don't see that as much either.
Just saw the Knicks lose. I realize Felton and Lin have comparable stats on paper ( as some Knicks fans in denial like to argue), Lin is sooo much better than Felton if you actually watch them play. Jeremy plays faster but more in control despite the faster pace, has much better court vision, quicker, better decision maker. I was actually surprised how bad Felton is.
ReplyDeleteI think Felton clearly benefited from playing with more proven stars earlier in the year, and against weaker competition in the east.. The fact the Jeremy's stats are slightly better than his speaks volumes as to how "deceptively" good Lin has been.
Once Lin starts getting more consistent, watch the whole Knicks fan base fall apart. How da hell did they just let this kid go for nothing. For nothing!
Felton pg conference is funny.. Kid doesn't get it. Says he never booed like this ever. What do u expect when u come out of shape to start the season.
DeleteOne striking he said about Nate McMillan, his coach last year.. That he never had a coach who never believed in him and that affected his play... Hmmm.. Lucky he is not playing for someone like McHale.
Felton is an average pg that should be playing back up. His court vision is bad compared to other starting pg's.
DeleteFelton runs NYK's offense (although I have seen Melo/JR initiate more), Lin does not. If Lin ran NYK's offense, he'd have better stats than Felton.
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DeleteFelton: "I'm a free agent so maybe those bloggers and those people who write won't have to see me again. Maybe they won't, until I'm coming in on the other end and droppin' 50 on 'em." [6/18/12]
Deleteoregonlive/blazers @blazersblog
If you add up Raymond Felton's minutes, points, rebounds, steals and assists, it totals 49. That's like 50 points, right?
10:13 PM - 14 Mar 13
PORTLAND WELCOME.
Maybe sometime in the very near future, Dolan wakes up one day and decides to sell the team to a billionaire who loves the Knicks (Michael Bloomberg). He fires everybody on the staff and hires competent people and brings Phoenix medical staff over and brings Lin back to the NY where he belongs. I can only dream right?
DeleteYeah, I have to give it to the fans in ny. They really loved him to death and the energy they provided clearly fueled Lin as well.
DeletePeople blame Dolan only but grunnie was a big part of it too. Only had they made a reasonable offer instead of allowing Lin to test the market. They wouldn't look so pathetic now.
Another thing I noticed is how old the team is.. Just looking at these players on the bench. It is a clear contrast to the rocket players I have seeing most of the season. Just visually the difference is even more striking.
Can't wait till the playoffs when they will be able to see what Lin brings to the game.
haha yup, alcsd :D
DeleteThe Knicks and MSG are the geese laying the golden eggs for Dolan and his ego. Can't imagine he ever sell it. But we can sure dream.
The funny thing is he will bid for Lin to come back when he's 35 for $120M! LOL
The man sure likes his veterans.
THE INEVITABLE RETURN OF JEREMY LIN
Deletenah, give us JLin at GSW with the new stadium. Gateway to China :-)
Deletethe financial excuse that Dolan is avoiding being hit by luxury tax. well, I think if he re-signed Jeremy, he should really review the $ 100 million contract he gave Stoudemire.
Deletesort of related with Jeremy: STAT's BAD CONTRACT A NECESSARY EVIL
Delete;) @JT
DeleteOT: white shanghai sharks fan...briefly mentions jeremy lin in this hilarious video:
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kB_OGFY968
LOL they allowed him to finish the "cheer."
DeleteJust came back from the Linsanity showing in SF.
ReplyDeletePlace was packed at Castro Theater. There was a huge VIP section, which I'm guessing is for people involved in the CAAM festival which filled up the middle section of the theater. Lin's parents were in the audience and stood up at the end after director Evan Leong pointed them out. The film was the headliner and opening documentary for the CAAM Festival in SF.
It was a totally packed house 1300 people. People were lined up early and lots were wearing Lin shirts and jerseys. Approx 90% Asian (it is also an Asian festival).
The documentary itself is simply amazing. Tons of candid moments and Jeremy's great sense of humor (tons of laugh out loud and hard to stop laughing moments created by Jeremy) and humility in dealing with difficult situations (sterotypes, racism) were highlighted time and time again. He is really head and shoulders above most people in terms of being enlightened...very classy person. His character is one of a kind and I think thats why we all root for him.
Also, you realize Lin is not naive in any way - he may seem passive to use, but he knows what is going on at all times and will use things he does not like to He knows when people are trying to show him up and he uses it fuel his game (i.e. Kobe or John Wall) - Lin played extra hard against those guys and gives some commentary. For example, he threw down that dunk extra hard in the game against Wall after Wall had a strong dunk on him earlier in the game. There were also a lot of other candid moments like Lin hanging out in his brothers apartment before the Lakers game, which were really cool.
News stations were there. Warriors owner Jacob Lacob who I believe said Lin was a "minimum, inexpensive asset" at some point was there (though in the movie he is depicted as a major Lin supporter). And I believe some of his other coaches like Doc and his high school coach may have been there also.
Ok, I don't want to spoil it any more. It's a great documentary - a must see. One of the classics that is so uplifting that makes you feel like you can achieve anything and overcome any obstacle.
Oh and my nephews bday was really fun! He is a high-energy maniac (think honey-badger) I realized - just 1 year old.
Deletethanks for sharing, much appreciated.
DeleteThanks for the report, Stu! I was contemplating making my way up there but settled for buying the DVD. Hopefully it will show in LA.
DeleteGood to hear your nephew had a great b-day.
Thanks for letting us know, @Stu! There have only been good reviews on the docu, looks like the cast and crew did a really good job. [Glad you had a good time at the screening and your nephew's birthday!] ^^
Deletethanks for the report @Stu! and a Happy,Blessed Birthday to your nephew..
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DeleteMan, Stu you made me impatient to only watch the Blu-Ray DVD in Sept :)
DeleteThanks for the in-person reporting. Wow, Jacob Lacob also came? He must really be a Lin fan to come not caring if people make fun of the fact that he let go of Lin (although not really 100% his fault).
Glad you had a ball at the BDay party. Did your nephew know it's his 1st birthday? :D I still remember my son cried on his 1st birthday party because all day long everyone ignored him to cook and prepare for the party then all of a sudden everyone sang for him during the party LOL
Just visited my nephew at his my sister's workplace, his daycare. He was babbling and moving way more than I remember. He didn't know what was going on - just had way more visitors than usual. He was also trying to steal a pan with fake bacon from another little boy named James at the day care, ironically - lol, though the two are friends.
DeleteJoe Lacob's son also use to play against Lin in basketball as a youth and Lacob liked Jeremy.
@psalm - LOL!!!!!! he must be really "shocked" about what happened, "what are these people doing?!?!?!"
Delete@Stu - what's your birthday present to your nephew?
Oh, I got him a baseball bat, Lin poster, and a winnie the pooh balloon.
Delete@Stu~
Delete"He was also trying to steal a pan with fake bacon from another little boy named James..."
- Clearly your nephew had discovered that you can never have enough "bacon" [and was trying to get a head start, lol.]
"Joe Lacob's son also use to play against Lin in basketball as a youth and Lacob liked Jeremy."
- Heard Lacob was the one who championed JLin's signing with GSW...
Gifts:...A JLin poster -> Starting him early haha.
@psalm~ About your son's bday, so cute...I'm a heartless adult to find a young boy's anguish funny smh, was it your eldest? :)
Enjoyed the read, Stu. I'm going to buy the DVD in future, thanks for verifying it's worth it. Must have been fun!
Deletemaybe little James was hogging the pan with bacon too much? lol
Delete@Stu - early start inducting the little guy to Jeremy Lin fan-hood? :)
Delete@Stu, perhaps your nephew will be Jeremy in MLB someday :D
Delete@Isabel and @via, yup very funny to walk down the memory lane. Yes, it was the eldest. Time flew by quickly
We all knew this would happen:
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lol
DeleteOn a funnier note, Lin made tonight's shaqtin' the fool. Watch the LOH's use this as an ammunition. Lol
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DeleteYeah, that was funny, and ugly. He should have dunked it!
Deletewestbrook was on there twice! that half court shot was truly "wtf"?
DeleteJeremy Lin finally watches Linsanity documentary
ReplyDeleteA team missing its top 3 players played a boarderline playoffs team on the road and was still within 4 points in 4th quarter. They actually didn't do too bad. Knicks fans and their media are simply overreacting. It's hilarious though lol. :-p
ReplyDeleteLet's say if the Rockets missed Harden, Asik and Parsons, Lin and other teammates probably wouldn't do too well against a team like the Blazers either.
DeleteBlazers have zero bench. Their second unit indeed sucked tonight. Blazers only look okay when their starters are in.
Deleteone of the ammunition used by haters is Jeremy thrived and did well with the Knicks because he was surrounded with lots of shooters - from Melo to Smith to Fields to Novak...o-kay
DeleteCome on, this is the same Blazers team who is 2-1 against the fully healthy Rockets. Blazers are not a good team.
DeleteI meant Blazers are a good team.
Delete2-1 against a newly assembled Rockets team. That would not happen with the current team, even post-PF trade.
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ReplyDeleteLIN SHARES THOUGHTS ON KOBE PLAY
ReplyDeleteIf Kidd shoots a SPOT UP three and does the leg kick, that's an offensive foul -- and Kidd has done precisely that.
DeleteBut Kobe's 'leg kick' was just the natural physics of him turning and shooting. I don't buy that 'leg kick was offensive foul' BS.
I thought it was just an accidental freak "bad luck" play where nobody was at fault.
DeleteWhat impressed me was that the NBA refs did not call a foul just because it was "Kobe" shooting.
I don't think Kobe was trying to offensive foul and I don't think Dahntay Jones was playing dirty.
Lin not only a coach killah but ref killah too. Lin derailed the refs plan to give the game to the Suns. The refs almost gave the game to the Lakers, but Dahntay overheard the refs secret and decided to crash the party. The refs have regrouped and more determined. The Rockets are going to lose to Wolves and Lakers are beating the Pacers tonight. Watch me gloat. I told you so it was the refs.
ReplyDeleteNice attempt at trolling again, Continuum.
DeleteIt's so nice to have a token Lin Hater like you join our forum.
There you go again with your two favorite words. I'm just saying what you had in mind. You should thank me for doing the dirty work for you.
DeleteWhat's your motivation for being here, Continuum?
DeleteWhat is it about Lin's game that you like?
We'll happily welcome you here if you're a Lin fan.
Don't bet on the Rockets making the playoffs. The refs are going to wreck that plan. Lin is not going to lead them to the playoffs. Thank the refs!
DeleteI like Lin. He's yellow mamba.
DeleteFINALLY we're talking basketball.
DeleteI can easily imagine the refs trying to make sure that the Lakers make the playoffs at the Rockets' (and Jazz and Warriors) expense.
On the other hand, basketball is still played by the players and the Lakers do have one of the highest payrolls in the NBA. Even with Bryant and Pau Gasol injured, they do have Steve Nash and Dwight Howard.
If the Lakers do make the playoffs at the Rockets' expense, they will still end up playing some powerhouse team like San Antonio or LAC or Memphis. Thus a playoff berth won't last long
Keep in mind that I am a NBA fan and thus don't truly root even for Lin and the Rockets. I just want to see good clean basketball where the outcome is decided by the players and not the refs. Even in the NBA, that can happen.
So an interesting read on clutch this morning. Some guy named cyberx had a lunch with a rockets executive and had some inside info. I know sounds fishy but apparently he has done this before and was found to be legit.
ReplyDeleteSome tidbit, Rox going after milsap or smith this offseason.
Rox signed Lin only after dragic fell thru. They like dragic but favors Lin because all the marketing dollars Lin brings in. And the amount that Lin has brought in this year is "wow".
Not happy with some of McHale's coaching decisions ESP playing harden too many minutes.
Worried about losing Sampson.
U can check it out for yourself. If this is true, I guess Lin is not going anywhere. But Lin does have to realize he has a lot of leverage.
CF LINK for those interested.
Delete[Don't let @k.smith know...j/k] =P
Tx via. I'm too lazy to add links.
DeleteLin has a lot of BASKETBALL leverage, regardless of marketing.
DeleteI suspect that the coaching staff outside of McHale, particularly Sampson, fully recognizes Lin's ability and wants to see Lin do more and Harden do less.
I am minimally disappointed because I was hoping that the Rockets would try to trade Lin to my hometown Suns for Goran Dragic. On the other hand, I as a Suns "follower" (not "fan") have no desire for Lin to have to put up with the ineptness of Suns management.
np @Solidz :)
Delete@KHuang~ I hope you and fighton are right about McHale...
Lol k.smith is going to crucify you Via :D
DeleteJust kidding k.smith :)
Very interesting especially the "wow" money that Lin has brought in. That must have been from advertising revenues from Chinese companies? I thought alcsd mentioned it will be distributed among all NBA teams.
DeleteKHuang, as much as I like Lin to be in Phoenix, I'm more scared about the owner penny-pinching on all players, selling draft picks, etc. I refuse to be a fan after they traded Nash. It's the last straw for me. They only want to get to playoff to get more money. At least Les and Morey have real aspiration to pursue championships.
psalm,
DeleteFirst of all, I don't believe that poster. I think he is a bunch of BS. Read carefully what that poster writes. A lot of what he writes is BS. You can't rewrite Parson contract (look up under CBA). He guesses just like anyone about money made from Lin. He is BSing. I can't believe people fall for it.
Advertising money made inside the Toyota Center are for Les to keep, but TV ads and oversea TV ads that carry Rockets games are not. I did mention it. Go back and read that part.
Parson will get paid when his current expires which will be in 2 years. He is in his 2nd of his 4th year contract. He will be an unrestricted agent.
DeleteI stand by what I wrote about advertising money. ONLY advertising made INSIDE the Toyota Center is for Les to keep. Meaning when you watch them on TV, you do see signs at Toyota Center (such as Maxxis Tires, Volvo etc) or Chinese characters that Coke used to do with MSG.
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Deleteoh, ok I got it now. So Les gets to keep advertising revenue in the TC building so there might be enough money for Les to keep Lin.
DeleteI got the impression it could be real but the guy might not have much knowledge of when they'll try to rework the contract with Parsons. Apparently he did the same "leak" for the Bulls not matching Houston's offer on Asik last year.
Makes me wonder if it could be "intentional leaks" approved by mgmt if he can provide another leak.
On top of that he mentioned that they chose Lin over Dragic because of advertising money. How did the Rockets know that Knicks were not going to match when they decided not to offer Dragic 4th year player option? If both Lin and Dragic were unrestricted and Rockets talk to both guys within 1 day of each other and decided to choose Lin over Dragic, then okay I will buy that logic. If he was going to lie, please do it convincingly.
DeleteRegarding Asik, Bulls owner had a history of being cheap. It didn't take a rocket scientist to know that they weren't going to match. Next year, Bulls will go over cap because I do believe because of what Rose's brother wrote about Bulls not surrounding Rose with talents.
DeleteTrue, that was the weak part of the story. The timing was right because the 1st offer ($19M)to Lin happened one day after the Suns gave Dragic $30M/4yr contract.
DeleteBut the Rockets didn't have any guarantee that the Knicks won't match this contract. My suspicion for that 2nd offer was always planned to hopefully make the Knicks fold but the Rockets would have to have a Knicks insider to be confident that the Knicks wouldn't match.
Hm, idk if I trust this guy even 80% because he's just sharing generalities with the exception of some specifics (i.e. mgmt didn't like McHale rotation in Bucks/Wizards game). He did have a consistent record using 2006 account to provide leaks so unless he craves trolling or reps, he might have some version of truth. I mean what would be his ulterior motive and his payoff?
There are a lot of sick people who crave for attending such as trolling. Heck, there are some on this board.
DeleteIf I remember correctly, the day that Lin went over to visit Rockets, was it the day or the day after that Dragic agreed to sign with the Suns? The main reason the Morey doesn't give out player option is because it makes more difficult to trade if the player doesn't work out.
There was no way they know that Knicks wasn't going to match. Even if there was an intention of the 2nd offer, how would they know that the Knicks wasn't going to match? Dolan has a history of spending.
I do want to add that the Bulls has NEVER paid luxury tax before. So the guessing that the Bulls wasn't going to match was a no-brainer. Next year is the first time that the Bulls will have to pay luxury tax.
attention and not attending.
DeleteI wish there is a way I can edit what I wrote. I would probably abuse it more than anyone on this board. A lot of times I know there were a lot of grammatical errors and spelling mistakes, but I just left it.