Saturday, February 16, 2013

Skills Challenge Thread

Starts at 5:30pm PT on TNT.

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  1. Go Lin! The haters can go to hell.

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  2. Lets go Lin. Have some fun! You may win this things.

    I am psyched for the 2nd half. Hoping and praying his wrist is not an issue (Hollins is a real idiot).

    I am predicting > 45% FG% and 35% from 3pt with 82% FT for 2nd half. Also I think he will average 15 pts, which is what he has done for this month.

    Looks like McHale will be around so this will have to work.

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    1. Every body is doing a great job according to Les!

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    2. Not necessarily gushing praise for Jeremy like he had for the other two guys. Meltdown coming on our site soon! :)

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    4. Ha! Delusional fans in love with Les. Thinking he has more day than he really does.

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    5. Even thinking of Morey, only problem is that McFail will also be in Houston

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    6. C'mon, k.smith!

      What Les said about Lin was great - and true!

      Let's not forget that this is Lin's first full year as a rotation regular. This is the first season that Lin has not been demoted to the D league!

      Harden and Asik have several seasons of proven track record success as well regarded rotation regulars. Lin is just starting out, but WHAT A START!!!!

      LesSanity!!!

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    7. Not trying to cause problems for everyone but I'm not on the Les bandwagon or any other rockets mngt bandwagon.

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    9. To be honest, these comments make it clear that at least some management is more naive than I thought. If Les thinks Lin is not repeating San Antonio or New York because he's not capable of it, he is not paying close enough attention. McHale has been extremely clear in the subtext of his public comments and the way he's run the team that Lin performing like in San Antonio is not preferred and he will actively work to prevent it from happening.

      LIN HAS BEEN VERY CLEAR ABOUT THIS. Lin has said, I have to remember that I'm not being asked to do everything that I can do. It sounds like perhaps Lin should have a chat with Les?

      Lin can't score 38 points in a game under the restrictions and harassment he current endures from McHale.

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    10. Les is not stupid. He MUST know this. The optimist in me thinks the spurs and knick game comments are a subtle jab at mchale and co., about the proper way to use lin.

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    11. Les sounds like he is ok with the current personnel. It seems like Les will not be the catalyst for a coaching change so long as McHale meets Les's expectations of making the playoffs this season. I guess that is fair for McHale.

      If after the summer the Rox get a max player and in JLin's second season with the Rox the team meets expectations again, lets say make it to the Western Finals, Les may still be ok with McHale even if he keeps marginalising JLin.

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    12. Based on empirical evidence, Les has been great for Lin's pocketbook but bad for his career.

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    13. Les has his wine business to take care, he's too busy to know everything.

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    14. Did I read wrong? Didnt he mentioned the Spurs and Knicks games as example of what Lin can do? And that Lin will grow dramatically as he keeps playing. Hows is that a bad comment in anyway?

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    15. "lets say make it to the Western Finals, Les may still be ok with McHale even if he keeps marginalising JLin."

      seriously?!?! first of all they will NOT make it to western conf finals if they marginalize their starting pg. no way, no how. if they can then there MUST be another pg on the team that is playing better than lin, in which case it wouldn't be marginalizing but rather making the right choice for the team.

      second of all, even if that really happens, do you think lin really cares? knowing how competitive he is i would bet my house that he's rather be on a western conf finals team and average 14 and 6 than on a fringe playoff team averaging 20 and 10.

      c'mon, people. he wants to win, and that's all he cares about. he KNOWS what he is capable of. but if choosing between showcasing his abilities vs. being on a winning team with multiple options, which one do you think he would choose? and as a fan, i would rather him get a ring more than anything else.

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    16. Etane - how has les been bad for jeremy's career?

      he cut him so that allowed him to be on the knicks which lead to linsanity. then he brought him back with a huge contract and a starting spot on a team that is making a lot of noise as the youngest team in the NBA exceeding all expectations. Not only that, he brought in a legitimate All Star to play alongside Lin so Lin could go through his first full season after coming off of major surgery.

      how do you think things would've been like for lin if harden hadn't arrived. let me tell you... he would've pushed too hard early in the season in order to perform up to expectations, and possibly jeopardize his recovery. remember, the coaches had to ask him to dial back to his training early on because he was training too hard.

      seeing how he performed in november, without harden to take some of the spotlight and pressure away he would've been trashed in the media beyond belief. his body wasn't ready but people wouldn't care. he would've been the biggest story of first month of nba season but not in a good way.

      les didn't plan for any of this to happen, but i can't say les has been bad for his career. not at all.

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    17. Hey Fighton:

      I agree with many of your points although most are speculative "if Harden hadn't arrived."

      My previous post was based on what is observable and not speculation.

      Lin is paired up with the worst coach ever. How much of this is Les' fault? Well, like Lydia said, he's too busy managing his wine business to care. So, you can say that it's Les' fault by not being involved enough as an owner.

      Lydia might be right, but that is also speculative.

      But, for what we can see, and until Les does something about the coaching, Les approves of the coaches' handling of Lin which includes playing him out of position, not protecting him on court physical assaults, and giving him a mind "damage" through out the games.

      Does the Rocket organization care about Lin's health? Is his knee one of the reasons why they went out to get Harden? Need to back that up.

      I, personally, haven't seen Houston management care about Lin's health. His minutes and role only diminished because of Sampson not because of the surgery. And, McHell rides Lin just like D'antoni did when the team is behind even through sprains, bruises, hard falls and stitched up head bleeding.

      Is this the way to play your starting PG so early in the season when you have so many games left in the play off hunt? Maybe it's just bad coaching, but, all speculations aside, it's bad for Lin career.


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  4. Dan Woike ‏@DanWoikeSports
    Jeremy Lin works on the bounce pass part of skills challenge course
    http://yfrog.com/kjthtwmj #allstar
    3:45 p.m. - Feb 16, 2013

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    1. He went with the gold. It doesn't seem like they have plan for selling it yet.

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    2. I like the silver one!

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    3. I thought the other ones were white?

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    4. I think those are the first shoes I've seen with the Jlin logo on 'em

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    5. Those are very nice with the Red. I like them better than the Nike ID hyperdunks he wore a year ago, and definitely better than Bruce Lins!

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    6. I think he wore the Hyperfuse Low last year (not "hyperdunk").

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    7. @wilc I guess I am still in Chinese new year, I read sneaks as snake and thinking, what? Snakes?

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    8. Maybe other contestants will have pet snakes, but JLin is into dolphins. :)

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    9. Via, you really good at finding things! converse use to my favorite brand sneakers! and I like the one here too!

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  5. Heard the attendance for the rising stars game was low. Way to host Houston.

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  6. Nate Taylor ‏@ByNateTaylor
    Adam Silver says Jeremy Lin's popularity has grown international. "He's not a flash in the pan. He has real growth potential," Silver said.


    Jesse Jones ‏@iamjessejones
    Interesting thougts fr Stern on Jeremy Lin. No matter how we feel about Lin as a player, he is incredibly important to the global NBA brand.

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    1. thank you so much via! keep 'em coming!

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    2. Adam Silver said: "It's grown since he was in New York. His popularity is only increased in China. The Houston Rockets, as you can imagine, have continued to remain a popular television attraction both in China and in Taiwan.

      "I think has demonstrated that he's not a flash in the pan. He's a highly successful NBA guard who's continuing to grow in his NBA development. He's continued to grow as a person. He's engaged in lots of different marketing activities in the off-season; but, most importantly, people are seeing that he has real growth as a player...He's still not the most popular player in China. The most popular players are largely the most popular players in the rest of the world: the ones who lead their teams. The ones who win championships.

      "Jeremy still has a ways to go from that standpoint; but, it's fun to watch his growth as a person and as a player."

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  7. The skills competition is pretty silly and meaningless, but it'll be fun to see Jeremy part of the festivities. Sore wrist may hamper him, though.

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  8. Why am I watching D-League All Star Game on NBA TV?

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  9. Glad he chose the gold.the color of the champ. They are pretty cool too. Do they sell those with his initials?

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  10. Westbrook shooting stars team beat harden's..It's a shame the female baller hit the halfcourt shot first..at least harden got it for his team...

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  11. The east won the shooting stars led by bosh.the east taking the first trophy..up next is skills challenge.i hope jeremy beats them all.Go J!!

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  12. Less pressure for lin.. Teague did poorly

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    1. JLin is the first up for West.

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    2. Daryl Morey ‏@dmorey
      Let's go @JLin7!
      6:08 p.m. - Feb 16, 2013

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    3. Lead off batter JLin. Lets get that single. Lol.

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  13. http://www.stadium-live.com/Channel1.html

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  14. IDK why i feel nervous.it's probably bec of his haters who are waiting for him to fail. Hope he does well..im praying now

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    1. Relax, buddy. Not a real game! Just have some fun!

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    2. You need to stop going places where the haters are. Just hang out here. :)

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    3. I dont need to go to other sites...they're everywhere...even here, they do show up.in his team, they are there too..i know this is not real game, but every player involved here still wants to excel and prove they deserve to be here, moreso jeremy whom a lot of people would not want to see.

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  15. Very respectable time for Jeremy.

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  16. Lin is all smiles from beginning to end...

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    1. awwww indeed. Who would have thought that Parker would blow it :)

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    2. Good thing this challenge doesn't mean anything. All star weekend sucks bc it means no games.

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  18. Unbelievable...reigning champ parker made the west lose..

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  19. Lin was very relaxed. May be too relaxed and not aggressive enough? Lol, it is all a out having fun

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    1. He seems just have fun and not be so competitive
      Its not in his full speed~

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    2. no one seems to care but come on lin, i'm surprised he didn't miss the layup on purpose.

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  20. Saw Harden is there to support Lin! He clap when Lin start

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    1. Ha the more Harden doing this, the more I will be happy
      I guess once they really get comfortable for each other
      off the court, they will also get going on the court
      More bromance pls!!!!

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    2. Harden trying to move in on Parson's territory!

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  21. Hehe, right in the middle of the pack! Not bad for a sore wrist.

    Mostly clocked some time missing two jumpers (before swishing the third).

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  22. The flared elbow on Lin's shot is so horrible. Watch where good shooter point their elbows. These competitions have given lots of good angles to see it. Look how Dominique will actually turn his body so his elbow points correctly. Other players square up but have developed the dynamic flexibility to point their elbows right.

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    1. Is that what he was trying to change at the beginning of the season? It just wasn't working for him. He's shot that side of head shot his whole life and I don't think it's going to change.

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    2. I think he looks to be a much better shooter than beginning of the season take a look http://telly.com/2YVIOU

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    3. good to see you on here Solidz75.

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    4. Thanks k. I've been on twitter running a solo #firemchale campaign.. Falling on deaf ears.. Lol. It looks like McHake will be around, so Jeremy will have to fight thru another adversity. I just hope McHake doesn't get an extension like Morey did tioday.

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    5. If they win 45 games (they're on track) they're gonna make the playoffs and Mchale isn't going anywhere.

      Morey purposely hired Mchale for Leadership reasons, not x's and o's. Finch runs the offense, NOT Mchale.

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    6. Elbow pointed at the hoop. No excuses. This isn't something that should get better over time. Just start doing it right. His shot would be immediately better. If you recorded these festivities, compare Lin's elbow position to every other player in the skills competition or three point competition or whatever that stupid first competition was. It's insane that is is the one hole in his game and no one apparently has freaking told him how to shoot.

      Someone should put an electric shock collar on him and shock him every time he elbow doesn't point at the rim during practice.

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    7. Gotta disagree with you Michael Terry. I'm sure plenty of people are giving him advice on his shot. This is the biggest stage for basketball after all. Everyone has a different physical build and sometimes the "picture perfect" shot just doesn't work for them. Or sometimes the muscle memory for the incorrect shooting form is just so ingrained it's very difficult to change, especially during the season. What do people say about Shawn Marion?

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    8. Sorry, if you disagree, you're part of the problem. I assume he's surrounded by people who use similarly poor logic. There's nothing debatable about this. Saying that people have different builds is irrelevant. Some people have different builds in golf, but you don't see anyone try to drive the ball with a baseball swing or shoot it like pool cue.

      Reasonable people can disagree about certain aspects of a fundamental. Where your elbow is pointed during a jump shot is not one of those things. Your elbow is a hinge joint. If you point it at the hoop, the ball MUST travel on a line toward the hoop. Your build has nothing to do with this. Every person on the planet can shoot the ball in a way that has their elbow pointed at the hoop.

      If you disagree, explain why every single other person shooting in these competitions today had their elbows pointed more at the hoop than Lin. Every single person in the 3 point competition is both a better shooter than Lin and points his elbow at the hoop. Ignoring this fact is mind numbingly dumb.

      PS - Very, very few people can violate this rule. Reggie Miller is one of them. Reggie Miller is the exception that proves that the general rule exists. And if Lin had Hall of Fame shooting percentages, he'd be free to tell me or anyone to shove it. But he doesn't. Because he doesn't have the transcendent shooting confidence that Miller does. Instead, he needs proper mechanics.

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    9. Also, Lin had all summer to fix this. Even if you believe the "can't change in the middle of the season" theory, that doesn't explain why he has such poor form this season, after all that practice. I have a lot of experience training fundamentals. It's not nearly that hard. This is an adjustment, not learning a whole freaking new skill.

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    10. Also, Shawn Marion is career 33% shooter, so that's not exactly something to be shooting for. So to speak.

      If idea that Lin has some dysfunction which disallows him from having picture perfect form is ludicrous.

      Maybe he should talk to Tiger Woods, he has broken down and reconstructed his form several times during his career, looking for the perfect shot. Correct jump shot fundamentals are FAR easier than a golf swing. Woods takes two years to reconstruct a drive from scratch. Adjusting a jump shot is trivial, with competent instruction.

      This is all I'll say on it for now. But Lin's elbow is the single biggest thing holding his game back today and the single easiest thing to fix. I'll definitely have more to say on it in the future. :)

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    11. Well I'm not really part of the problem and you're not really part of the solution, unless you go get a shooting coach job with Jeremy. :) I'm just a Lin fan who also plays bball, same as you I'm sure. I wasn't actually disagreeing about the elbow sticking out. I was disagreeing with you about how easy it is to change and fix a shot.

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    12. Jeremy was shooting pretty badly at the beginning of the season. Every time he shot during a game, he was probably thinking about his form that he was working on over the summer. He's shooting better now but I don't know if he reverted to his original shot, is in a hybrid state right now, or this is his new shot. You're talking purely about technique, but at some point you have to take success in a game into account too. A perfect shooting form that can't hit in a game is still worthless.

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    13. @Michael Terry I am 100% agreeing with you.

      I take the shooting form issue this way. If you got a good shooting form, it probably will not show on your shooting stat (Although it should be correlated somehow). However, it will increase your freedom on the court because you can shoot correctly no matter in what situation. Meaning maybe you are hanging in the air avoiding blocks, shooing with body contacts, sliding away jumpers, or fade away jumpers etc.

      The thing is no matter how bad your form is, tru practice, you are going to increase your shooting percentage. But, you are limiting your scoring ability in the game because not every shot is a open shot. Only a correct form will give you the highest stability at any given situations. And I believe the correct form will eventually give you a higher shooting percentage.

      Frankly, to a NBA player, changing forms can only be done in the off season. No matter how correctly your form become, your shooting percentage will drop initially which is not good during the season.

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    14. I've also noticed his flaring elbows for quite awhile ago. And, I had similar opinions that he should concentrate on pointing his elbows straighter and higher. But, then, I thought there was something else to it, and the main culprit is not his elbow.

      Rather, it's the way he pushes off the ground.

      When he uses his quads to push off, which is what he does when he's cold, his center of gravity is lowered, and his elbows flare to compensate for the lowered center of gravity. Basically, his arms have to push the ball harder.

      He should push off with his upper front hip whatever you call that muscle. This will keep his upper body in balance, so lower body strength can travel up through his upper body and into the wrist snap. Thus, his upper body doesn't need to compensate and push the ball harder. Hence, his shoulders and elbows will be more relaxed through the shot.

      I think he knows this as his shots are much better now even with the two missed 3s in the previous game, he's doing it right.

      I think he goes back to flaring his elbow when his legs are not warm yet. Notice in the skills challenge, his first two attempts were utilizing decent elbow position. But, he made the third shot with flared elbow.

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    15. All I have to say is that Kyrie Irving's winning 3 points shooting is pretty amazing, given the fact that he's more known for juking and driving. Pretty impressive. The guy has it all, offensively.

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    16. lin should go for the underhand shot, problem solved! :o

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  23. Jeremy played it cool.wasnt really performing to impress.didnt show any sign he wants to win...just want to have fun

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    1. I dont think so. If he didnt have to do anything twice he would have made it in 30 seconds - which is good.

      Most disappointing -> Parker. He left position before he knew whether he made it (3pt and pass). That cost him a couple of seconds (might have been enough to win). Parker basicly screwed up :)

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  24. Just hit me is Lin gonna root for Curry or Novak in the 3 pt competition?

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    1. Im sure he will. He wont jump around and make summersaults but hes classy enough to clap for his friends :) At least thats what I believe...

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    2. I meant who is he gonna root for?

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    3. Ohhh... why would he only root for one ofn them?

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    4. I meant one winner in the end right

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  25. wow reggie just had to mention hogden, maybe he wasn't a linsanity fan after all.

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    1. Please also make another one like this for Mchale!

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    1. Anyone else bothered by Parsons comment on Lin? "He's a great leader, good PG...". He carefully chose those words. To call your starting PG "good" is pretty much telling us that he's actually average.

      http://youtu.be/5erIPJN8d7A

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    2. Tbh, I think JLin would rather his buddy call him good and not assert something which may be perceived as controversial. Or Parsons may really just think he is average. Come to think of it, JLin himself may, at this point in his career, similarly consider himself to be merely 'good' (inferring from his comments on how Harden is really really really good).

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    3. Greatness is extremely rare. Good is also rare but not quite as rare as greatness. You just got to be kidding me by saying that Parsons saying Lin is a good pg is somehow problematic.

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    4. All NBA players are good, that's why they're in the NBA. You hear analysts and players say that all the time. In the NBA, good is average. Teammates, usually compliment each other more than anyone else, so I was surprised by what he said.

      Uh duh. I do have a problem with his comment, that's why I brought it up.

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    5. @ k. smith. When you say a player in the NBA is good you're referring to good in context of the competition found *in* the NBA; not outside of it.

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    6. @bamboo forest no, really? Shocking. These are professional athletes, they play in the NBA, they compete against one another. No shit i'm talking about good vs great in the context of competition found in the NBA.

      You misinterpreted what I said and got your panties in a bunch because you you didn't like what you read. If something isn't clear to you, then ask. No need to go on one of your PMS rants.

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    7. @ Ksmith I'm not upset, trust me. But this is what you wrote: "In the NBA, good is average." And so my point was rather well placed. In other words, good is not average in the NBA when you're speaking within the context of the NBA. There are many, many average players in the NBA and fewer good ones.

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  27. I actually have no problem with that. I'm sure Lin will feel uncomfortable anyone call him a great PG because clearly he doesn't think so, yet. I give some kudos parson been honest about it too.

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  28. lol why be bothered? Good is good. No need to over-hype. Besides, I love that he called him a great leader. No need to be so insecure.

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  29. Bleacher report ranked Lin # 28 out of 30 in starting PG a month ago, above Rubio and another "incomplete guard" because they have been injured. I mean average in Lin from 10 to 20 and I will take that right noes long as he is ranked overall in top half given how he has been marginalized and underutilized by coach. And top 5 to 10 is a lock in my mind as soon as we have a coach staff who knows how to optimized while maximize harden

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    1. Yeah, I saw that. Lin was a top 10 guard last year by PER and that was with him playing bench minutes early. He is probably a top 10 again this year. When he turns it on, his ceiling is top 3 - which can happen during any game.

      Kind of a waste of our and his time though with McHale.

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  30. That was embarrassing. Announcer just said "from the Los Angeles Lakers, Eric Bledsoe..."

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  31. NBA promo for UK is interesting. They show Jeremy Lin first. :) I've heard he's popular in Europe as well. If Jeremy's "incredibly important to the global NBA brand" as Stern says, then they need to do a better job of protecting him from injury. They really need to do something about those hard fouls and dirty plays. Anyway, I'm happy Jeremy's all smiles. I hope he takes to heart how many fans support him all around the world.

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  32. Lin standing by Nick Cannon and all the NBA all-stars at Dunk Competition. He belongs and he knows it!

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    1. Thank u! Happy to see that Jeremy is smiling the whole time and genuinely having fun! :)

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    2. Thanks for the pics, particularly this one.

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    3. Kidult vs Kid
      Jeremy must be a great Dad

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    4. Yeah, I can imagine how kids would love JLin. He's got the oversized kid vibes.

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    5. I love the pic where Kiyan holds on to JLin's big ears!

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    6. Nice. At least one of the Anthonys loves Jeremy :)

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    7. Wow. Carmelo's son is really really adorable!

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    8. where is tyson? he is not in "CLASS 2013" pic.

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    9. I remembered in one of Melo's interview during linsanity he mentioned that his son always wants him to say to Jeremy "Whazza up" for him :)

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  34. LinsanityMovie ‏@LinsanityMovie
    Two years ago Jeremy watched from the stands, last year he competed in Rising Stars, this year Jeremy competes in Skills Challenge.
    5:40 p.m. - Feb 16, 2013

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  35. I always think rockets home court environment is kind of dark.
    While watching the game, it's look like not so exciting becoz
    of the setting, i mean something like the lights and the color.

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    1. Congratulation for Payton. We know Lin can bully his opponents but I wonder if Lin could also trash talk on the court as well as Payton lol.

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    1. *meant red and white. I don't like the gold one.

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  39. BELATED HAPPY 60TH, PAPALIN!

    jaesonma ‏@jaesonma
    Happy 60th bday to Mr. Lin who would have known both of our favorite NBA players all time would be Kareem…
    http://instagr.am/p/VyKjiIFWQv/
    11:45 p.m. - Feb 15, 2013

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    2. Happy Birthday, Law Pei! (am I right? golly my basic Mandarin must be sucking real bad!!!)

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    3. "Law Pei" means father in Hokkien. I think the term you were going for is something like 林爸爸: Linpapa. :)

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    4. oh.. that was of great help @via! xie xie! :)

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    5. Practicing how to talk to in laws?

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  40. 20 candidates for 2012-13 NBA Defensive Player of the Year and the All-Defense teams:

    19. JEREMY LIN, ROCKETS POINT GUARD, +137.05

    [Omer Asik @2nd place]

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    1. @Rikki~ Surprised he's not rated higher...

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    2. If Lin have consistent minutes and not constantly being robbed by the refs, the stats would have been much higher

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    3. Haha the eye test by Sampson sees Lin as a minus defender. But to all who see regularly and those who use actual stats, Lin is a big-time plus defender as we all know. I think he would have 10 more steals this year (and prob 30 less personal fouls) if official scorers and refs made the right call

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  41. YAO MING [NBA Ambassador of the Year] INTRODUCING DIKEMBE MUTOMBO as Humanitarian of the Year @ NBA LEGENDS BRUNCH.

    [Mutombo: Swats award.]
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    SPECIAL OLYMPICS.

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  42. Just saw the replay of ASG slam dunk. Soooo fun to watch.funnier than any comedy films i've seen, i swear...i didnt think dunking can be this fun and funny...had a blast listening to the announcers who kept making fun of every contestant...this contest is only for brave hearted....unless you are used to getting laughed at, worse by legends of the sport and your own teammates...hahahhh

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    1. I remember last year if shump didnt get injured, he would be dunking over a couch where jeremy is sleeping under a blanket and comes out of the blanket then hands shump a sprite... It would have been cool...

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    2. @jlin74ever~ Yeah, people really wanted to see that. I guess we'll just have to make do WITH THIS, lol.

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  44. I would recommend watching this year's ASG slam dunk contest to anyone who is dealing with any life issues.guaranteed to keep you laughing..make sure you turn up the volume bec the laughter of announcers is contagious...i recorded it for future use....

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