I don't know why some of you guys are hating on Harden. Damn the guy hasn't even missed a shot, he deserved the offense run through him and every word of praise from coaches or anyone.
who the hell says we're hating on harden? God. The entire fucking world and pretty much everyone in here is praising him. Just bc i'm not on his nuts, it doesn't mean that i'm hating on him.
Batum is heating up. He has 16 points. Pretty good foa guy playing hurt. Wonder how long McHale will leave his bench in and if he is going to play the bench for the 4th quarter when the Rockets have a 13 point lead now.
I'd like to see Rockets rest Harden for the first 3 min of 4Q and let Lin be the PG to get the feel of the ball and be more aggressive but I guess Beverley got the call.
Perhaps the coaches want to see Harden and Lin play together at the end of 4Q.
Beverly is a nice pick up for the Rockets. He can sure play and he is scrappy. He is a nice back up to Lin and TD and makes the most of his opportunities when he is given the chance.
not hating on you or anyone else. From the very beginning of the year, the coaching staff have been grooming Harden into this role. They just needed Lin to hit his outside shot.
Really now, we are back to the Beverly experiment again. When are you bringing back your PG who has done a superb job on Lillard. SMH @ McHale and Sampson. Nice reward for Lin working his butt off.
With less than 7 minutes left in the 4th quarter and still no sight of Lin. With the way things are going now right now I doubt they will put Lin back in the game. Even if they do put Lin back, won't be enough time to even get to 30 minutes of playing time.
I know we get the win and I'm happy with it but I just want Lin to pad his stats a little bit more. Oh well I'm just gonna lay on my bed and start crying, a lot
Nice game for Harden tonight. He is sure playing with purpose tonight. He knows the importance of this game. Once you are on a roll then the basket looks like a big hula hoop.
Not bad? LOL. He was outstanding. Only played 26 minutes, mostly off-the-ball with bigs who can't dunk and refs who won't call any non-punches to the face.
I don't know what other young PG could put up quality games under the conditions Jeremy has -- crazy rotations, rampant misusage, constant undermining and underestimation by coaches and teammates.
Marathon, not a sprint. Jeremy's PER goes up. His knee gets a rest. He's forced to become a better 3pt shooter (we're already seeing progress).
And yet some people on this board still giving McHale the credit for being tough on Lin. Some people on this board just don't have common sense. That is the one thing I can't stand. The way Lin is being treated like trash, most players would just lose faith, but because he is so tough mentally he will take his game to the next level just to stick to this shit head.
I want to see JLin on the court more too (I really lose interest in the game whenever he's not on the court lol) but I'm not that mad about it today because the Rockets were in control and ahead in the entire game. JHarden was hot today, so the ball eventually ended up in his hands more. I'm happy that JLin was aggressive to the basket and looking to score his points. He seems more confident in his shooting now. The next 3 games will be on the road and against tough teams, so on the positive side I'm glad that JLin gets some more rest in this game.
Overall, Lin has a decent game with 16 points, 4 assists and 2 TO's. Lillard has 18 points but I think the majority of the points he scored on Beverly and other players. I think he scored 7 on Lin.
He has a great game until Lin was made a scarified for Harden to pad his stats. Harden wanted a triple double going into this game. It's sicking to see such a talented player being wasted with a dumb and dumber.
He played only 26 minutes! And he put up 16/4 with horrendous PnR bigs and biased officiating.
The only sore spot was Lilliard getting by him a couple times -- but so what? Lilliard and Lin and all the fast PGs in the league can blow by anyone one-on-one.
Well, glad we won. Still hate McHale's rotation. Lin had a good game. He looks a lot more confident. Either way, McHale needs to realize that having Harden and Lin out at the same time is not smart. I wonder how long that's going to take him.
I HATE MCHELL. I can't believe that, in a great team win, and Lin playing extremely well, I feel utterly confused and depressed, because of the fucked up substitution patterns regarding Lin.
Bringing in Lin with 6 minutes in a game that was already pretty much at garbage time status means either you let him play his six minutes in garbage time like a sub, or, you take him out when you bring in the subs. Which is what McHell did, meaning Beverly played 9 minutes in the fourth and Lin played only 3.
What the hell is Lin to do? Play well, get subbed out. Play poorly, get subbed out. They treat Lin more like a sub than a starter. Fucking bullshit.
I agreed. Harden should definitely get the minutes since he was hot, but McHale should pull him also when he is playing crappy. Would have prefer McHale to play Lin more in the 4th quarter instead of leaving Beverly in. Starting PG should have starting minutes. Lin was playing sound tonight and coaching staff screwed his stat.
Beverley was very active at the end of 3Q so I don't mind coaches letting him play in 4Q.
By pulling Lin after 1 bad TO, the coaches didn't help Lin's confidence to make plays and be aggressive. I gave them the benefit of the doubt this time because it was a careless TO more than "trying to make play" TO.
Lin was really productive with his hot 3PT shots. I'm pleased to see that.
I agree but I don't think he was pulled "because" of the turn over. I think it was just the rotation. He did shot 60% with 16 points. He had a really good and efficient game. Which in a 35 minutes would probably translate to 20+ with 8 assists. But, I still don't like McHale's rotations. Glad we won. It was a really important win.
I disagree, I think it's a HUGE deal that Lin didn't play much in the fourth, because it shows us that McHell still does not value Lin as a legitimate starting point guard, and this game just feeds McHell's belief that Lin is NOT that important to the team, and justify his disrespectful treatment of Lin.
In this game, a blow-out, it didn't affect the game. But, McHell's substitution decisions regarding Lin in the game against Denver and Miami basically lost the Rockets those games, as he kept playing TD longer than he should have.
JLin again played an effective game on offense and defense. The Rockets look different with JLin on the floor and conducting the defense. I was disappointed that McHale pulled JLin after that turnover and that didn't insert JLin in until 6 minutes into the 4th (even though he could have inserted him one stoppage before). I was ok with it since Beverley made some solid plays during that time.
Asik made some eye opening blocks and has another double digit rebound game. He still can't catch bounce passes very well, but the teammates have learned to get the ball to him up above his waist. Asik did a good job of challenging LMA's jumpers, but LMA was just on tonight.
PPat was hitting his jumpers and had a few entertaining power dunks. For a while at the end of the third while playing with the bench, Parsons showed signs that he is capable of being that main offensive option on the floor. Harden played a good game. He made the win seem easy.
I'm just worried about nights when he isn't hot or when he is hot teams double team him to force the ball out of his hands instead of clearing out one side of the floor and letting him play iso. I guess that's a worry for another game. For now, it was a good and important win against another team fighting for a playoff spot!
@Roberlin~ I guess we'll have to see how it goes next games. It's hard to see what might be the problem when everybody's rather satisfied/ relieved over this impt win.
Lin only played 26 minutes this game. To put it in context, Beverley played 20 minutes. And this was with Lin playing pretty well on both defense and offense. What the hell.
Maybe he wants to save Lin for the road trip. This game was in control and Beverly had good energy so I think it was okay to give Jeremy a break. They will need him on the road trip, especially with TD out.
That too can be true. We won, Lin had a super efficient game in just 26 minutes. We have some tough matchups ahead. Specially that back to back with GS and Clippers next week. People think that the soreness and tiredness is ok with one day of rest. But trust me it's not. I want a good win in Sacramento with a good rest for the starters. And for Lin to kill it vs GS and Clippers.
You guys don't get it. There's a huge problem with letting Beverly play starter minutes basically in this game. You aren't thinking LONG TERM. It's important to let Lin play with the starters as much as possible to continue to develop team cohesion and more clearly figure out how to play with each other, especially because this team is so young and still learning how to play as individuals, and as a team.
But, you can't do that if you minimize the minutes the starting core plays together during the regular season.
You also prevent Lin from working on his own game, not letting him get into a flow. And by dramatically limiting his limits, it prevented him from getting even better numbers, which is important for his confidence and helpful in shutting down haters.
I'd also add he's averaging 32.9 minutes a game this season. There's nothing wrong with that. I rather Lin play 33 minutes a game than 38 minutes a game: It's healthier.
@bamboo forest is right...if you haven't noticed, jeremy has that stone-cold, stoic look. he'll drill a three in your face and still look like he's sleepy
I love talking to people with common sense like you. Some people just choose to be blind and still want to give McHale the credit. Lin is improving so he can still it to the coaching staff, Morey, and most of all Dolan. Lin will never go back to NY willingly.
Harden is a good person, but he has a huge ego which makes him very selfish. This is why he doesn't want Lin to shine. I can understand him wanting to prove that he is worth the contract Houston is giving him and he wants to make OKC looks bad for giving him up, but still I just can't see them co-exit.
He was definitely not as happy as when he was the primary PG. Per his radio interview, he felt it's easier to play second-string to Harden now compared to the earlier games.
But it's still hard for him to be aggressive to pick his spot when Harden was the primary PG.
Over time, it will benefit both Lin and Harden. Lin will learn to pick his spot and be aggressive when Harden is the primary PG and vice versa.
For now, it's not quite easy for either one of them. I haven't seen Lin and Harden consistently move without the ball to attack the basket when defense focus on the other. When that time arrives, these two will be unstopppable.
who says they can't co exist. I'm a huge Lin fan , but thank God , Lin is doing just fine right now , even with things that are out of his control. (i.e. playing with Harden).
alcsd, to put things in perspective consider how Harden let Lin shine with 28 pts against GSW while he only took 10 shots.
And Harden shined today with 35 pts with incredible shooting and scoring. Lin hit 2/3 3PT shooting (actually 3/4 if his foot was not on the line). They are learning to play together while not having the ball in their hands all the time.
I think Lin and Harden are both unselfish as they are proving in their games. They only played together for 3 months so give them some time.
who say that? who say jeremy look like that every game on the bench? nonono. look at the game with jazz. He was cheering high like he's on drug on the bench!
I hope the Rockets are not peaking too early. By the end of the regular season, I don't want the starters to run out of gas. Best to pace themselves, so hopefully the bench can get more playing time as long as they keep linning.
Rockets coaching staff don't want Lin to shine. It's Harden's team and not Lin's. If not for Lin's defense on Lillard, Rockets will not win tonite - and that's the game changer
You do know that Lin had a super efficient game in just 26 minutes on the floor. And that he DOMINATED GS and Stephen Curry just a couple of nights ago. I hope you do.
jp2123, I'm a huge Jeremy Lin fan. But I call out a ridiculous comment when I see one. Jeremy Lin is my favorite NBA player without any question. In fact, HE is the reason I watch the NBA. But sorry, I don't think the coaching staff doesn't want Lin to win. I think they want to WIN. Even if Mchale has done some very strange substituions, that's just his odd coaching. And while Lin played really good this game, I give the credit for the win to Harden above all other players. Just look at his stats.
Ah okay.. well I saw Harden and Parsons with 38 min.. actually I saw all the starters with more minutes and Beaverly of all people with 20... seems strange to me.
I know his ankle's been messed up, so maybe it's better not to aggregate it when they have such a big lead and Harden is in control of the ball/scoring.
The only problem I have is that, he's not seen as a core player like Parsons/Harden, his minutes aren't guaranteed like theirs. Lin's minutes depend on whether his back up completely sucks it up or not. If his back up sucks, he'll get more than 30 minutes. For awhile, he wasn't guaranteed to finish games/come back in the fourth...at least that's changing and the coaching staff is realizing that he might be an asset during crucial minutes.
'just caught the last 7 minutes of the game and no Lin in sight. At least when he was inserted back, I saw him hit his last 2 points in the game through that jumper.
@pete u need to get off lin's nuts. Lin had a good game, he got some well deserved rest. I rather see him rest then play when the game is in the bag. Your comment on hating rockets trusting harden and giving him minutes more than Lin , ummm Harden is much better and looks much more fitter than Lin so i don't see anything wrong with that.
Some "Lin fans" apparently wanted Lin to play garbage minutes and pad his stats. The Rockets blew out the opposing team and Lin played well. They still complained and complained. And somehow McHale "suck" for winning this game and Harden was "selfish" for dishing out 11 assists.
Lin is a very good point guard but Harden is a superior player overall. I realize the die hard Lin fans here will disagree with that but in the same breath they may say that nobody is better than Lin in the NBA and that's just not objective. Harden is elite, plain and simple. Lin isn't elite but he's very good. I hope one day Jeremy Lin is elite, that would be amazing.
but khuang, lin should be given a chance to shine too. if lin didn't play bad, coaches should just let him play. opponents always try to stop lin, so does that mean coaches have to take lin out of the game even when he is feeling it? might as well cut lin from the Rox? looking at the overall team perspective, yeah, it's ok to pull lin out when so and so has hot hands, but coaches subbing pattern is not helping lin to have better stats and i'm pretty sure coaches are aware of the criticism lin has been getting so far? don't want lin to play garbage mins but at least he should be getting more mins when the team is pushing the lead.
It's all good. It's a long season and a lot of these guys have never started before, so you don't want to burn them out. Great to have these blowout games to let some of the starters rest.
Nice move by Pppat for a layup. Houston up by 13 points.
ReplyDeleteCommentator said that's one of his best move of the season. That's a compliment?
DeleteAnd Sampson gleefully greeted him with "Good boy!"
DeleteI'm still waiting for his first attaboy for Lin.
It means they never seen him do that before. He seems to have On and OFF games.
DeleteLin is taking it strong to the hoop tonight. He did a nice high arcing finger roll. He has 14 points so far.
ReplyDeleteI don't know why some of you guys are hating on Harden. Damn the guy hasn't even missed a shot, he deserved the offense run through him and every word of praise from coaches or anyone.
ReplyDeleteI am not hating on him. I said he is playing exceptional tonight.
DeleteAnd stop complaining every time Lin gets some rest.
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Deleteand quit telling everyone what to say or think.
DeleteI wonder if his nuts have a beard like his face. Sorry Cara. It was a Freudian slip.
Deletequit telling others to quit telling others to quit it.
Deletewho the hell says we're hating on harden? God. The entire fucking world and pretty much everyone in here is praising him. Just bc i'm not on his nuts, it doesn't mean that i'm hating on him.
DeleteK Smith, you sound like angry and sensitive.
DeleteSo his big and small head have same hair style.
DeleteI think James' beard has SOMETHING LIKE THIS
DeleteCara, what are you insinuating about K. Smith? Does he have feminine qualities?
Delete@Cara, please get over yourself. You always sound pissy and emotional, so don't start with me.
DeleteNice visual Isabeli. WoMan down hands down to Isabeli.
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DeleteCara is feisty ^^
DeleteI think he's baldie.
Delete@etane, nice to see you back buddy. I guess public shaming does work.
Deletesmh after all
DeleteYes! Haters gotta hate.
DeleteIn New Guinea k. smith would be accused of witchcraft and burned at the tired heap. That's what they do to angry and sensitive people.
Delete@via, i'm sorry.
Delete@John Ly, you would have burned and killed already then.
DeleteIt happened already, I am reincarnated as a male this time.
Delete@k.smith~ What for?!
DeleteI'm smh @ this entire convo, NOT @ you.
@john Ly, I thought you were from hell. Didn't think the devil reincarnated people.
DeleteStop all this talk about death. Let's talk about sucking on Harden's bald nuts!
Delete@etane, you got me. alright.
DeleteStupid commentator. Of course you are not going to return from a hip pointer. Use some common sense. Aldridge again with a jump shot.
ReplyDeleteHarden with a double double already. 25 points and 10 assists.
ReplyDeleteOmer picking up his third foul. Haven't seen Aldrich in the 2nd half ever since he picked up 3 quick fouls.
ReplyDeleteAsik did a really good job defending Aldridge.
DeleteJust need to watch his fouls.
He's really limiting POR offensive rebounds. They need him to win this game.
Batum is heating up. He has 16 points. Pretty good foa guy playing hurt. Wonder how long McHale will leave his bench in and if he is going to play the bench for the 4th quarter when the Rockets have a 13 point lead now.
ReplyDeleteNice play by Beverly to hustle and come up with the loose ball. Looks like Sampson has a favorite PG now since TD is out.
ReplyDeleteJeremy?
Deleteprobably Ron Jeremy and not Lin.
DeleteDid he play college ball?
DeleteYeah, I am sure he play more than one type of ball. Back to commentating about the game.
DeleteNo time to rest! Let's close the deal! Let's go it's 4th quarter Linsanity time!
ReplyDeleteWhat did Lin do to get more rest than other starters? Huh? Harden is playing 10 mins than Lin?
ReplyDeleteTo pad Harden stats. What else? Because he wanted a triple double.
DeleteI'd like to see Rockets rest Harden for the first 3 min of 4Q and let Lin be the PG to get the feel of the ball and be more aggressive but I guess Beverley got the call.
ReplyDeletePerhaps the coaches want to see Harden and Lin play together at the end of 4Q.
Its their pattern lately, both to close 4th together.
DeleteI can see the positive for the long term that they'll learn to play off each other against playoff contenders.
DeleteThe easy way out would be to play them separately to be the PG.
Beverley doing really well so far.
ReplyDeletePrediction: Lin not coming back till 5min mark.
Beverly is a nice pick up for the Rockets. He can sure play and he is scrappy. He is a nice back up to Lin and TD and makes the most of his opportunities when he is given the chance.
ReplyDeletelin will be in at the 4 minute mark. This coaching staff don't really want him.
ReplyDeleteShooting match.
ReplyDeleteWow Beverley is aggressive.
ReplyDeleteGet some of that aggressiveness Lin!
Score too far apart to be interesting...
ReplyDeleteKorean or Thai food tonight... my wife wants to eat.
DeleteThey are both hot. You should tell her that, but they can't be hotter than me. That's right, it's all me.
DeleteYes I wish my wife is as hot as you.
DeleteDon't you wish your gf was hot like me. Don't ya...don't ya...
DeleteI am really liking Parson's game tonight also. He has ratch it up a notch. Somebody on Houston need to stop Batum.
ReplyDeleteThey need to not leave Batum open all day.
ReplyDeleteThey can't leave Aldridge and Batum open. Need I say Lillard as well.
DeleteYou have to scratch your head sometimes with McHales rotations though.... First 5 minutes in the 4th and now Lin and Harden!? wow...
ReplyDeleteHis bench is deep. Wanna see Greg and Donatas.
Deletenice pic of Rockets in NBA Cares commercial talking about camaraderie
ReplyDeleteAnd you are leaving LIN OUT!!!???
ReplyDeletescrew mchale
DeleteSo basically Harden is Rocket's new PG now, not Lin.
ReplyDeletePeople are just realizing this now? This is a serious question.
DeleteHey don't hate cause I'm slow :/
Deletenot hating on you or anyone else. From the very beginning of the year, the coaching staff have been grooming Harden into this role. They just needed Lin to hit his outside shot.
DeleteReally now, we are back to the Beverly experiment again. When are you bringing back your PG who has done a superb job on Lillard. SMH @ McHale and Sampson. Nice reward for Lin working his butt off.
ReplyDeleteLin at 23 minutes. He can't even sniff 30 when he's playing well. I don't even know what to think anymore.
DeleteHarden is back again? WHERE IS LIN?
ReplyDeleteHe is picking the splinter from his butt from riding the pine so hard in the 2nd half.
Deletego blazers! time to beat the rockets. f*ck you Mchale!
ReplyDeleteI wouldn't go that far, but Idk, just BAD rotation even though we are winning.
DeleteJLin not coming back..
ReplyDeleteLet's have a pool of when Lurch will sub Lin back in. Do I have any takers for 5 minutes, 4 minutes, 3 minutes, 2 minutes and 1 minute?
ReplyDeleteI'd go for 4 minutes, with him expecting Jeremy come up with a miracle..
DeleteX to Isabeli. It's a good thing you are not a gambler. You would have lost the house.
Deletehaha I'm not really a gambler. not even interested in playing poker or any card games
DeleteMchale, dumbest nba coach!
ReplyDeletewho say it? dead wrong. he's the smartest!
DeleteWith less than 7 minutes left in the 4th quarter and still no sight of Lin. With the way things are going now right now I doubt they will put Lin back in the game. Even if they do put Lin back, won't be enough time to even get to 30 minutes of playing time.
ReplyDeleteI know we get the win and I'm happy with it but I just want Lin to pad his stats a little bit more. Oh well I'm just gonna lay on my bed and start crying, a lot
coach hate harden, he let all other starters rest but harden. We should happy. coach loves lin.
DeleteHeh
DeleteHarden makes it look so easy.
ReplyDeleteBlazers gonna be put in their place if this keeps up.
Maybe McHale is saving Lin for Chinese New Year celebration. Speaking of which, he is being subbed in at 6 minutes left in the game.
ReplyDeleteLin is back but he won't reach 30 minutes
ReplyDeleteSee? Told y'all, he's back in 5-6 mins left.
ReplyDeleteHickson's like:
ReplyDelete"Really? Defensive foul? I'll take that"
wow.. what are these REFS calling?a fol for a steal?
ReplyDeletemeant *foul for a steal
DeleteThey can't let up tho, Portland has this weird ability to "regenerate" like wolverine...
ReplyDeleteThey might be wounded but they can heal those points in 4q.
Lol when they gunna learn no bounce passes to Asik.
ReplyDeleteHe is just too big according to Warrell.
DeleteLin first score in the 4th quarter. He hits a mid range shot.
ReplyDeleteI love that that he has that shot
DeleteHe needs to take that shot a lot more often.
DeleteLin looks sleepy.
ReplyDeleteLol Harden scoring over everyone.
ReplyDeleteNice game for Harden tonight. He is sure playing with purpose tonight. He knows the importance of this game. Once you are on a roll then the basket looks like a big hula hoop.
ReplyDeleteHarden going Lebron on the Blazers!
ReplyDeletebill worrell and drexler giving lin props this game
ReplyDeletePeople don't change their tune overnight, I am sure it was an order from their boss.
DeletePortland looks lost.
ReplyDeleteBasically Rockets are all doing ok on treys even Lin 2/3, so they can't afford to trap anyone.
And leaving Harden with just one defender is just a huge mistake.
Portland pulls out their starters. Perhaps the Rockets should do the same.
ReplyDeleteGarbage time.
ReplyDeleteNice no look but asik spoils it, of course.
ReplyDelete*sigh* .. I'm not even surprised anymore.
DeleteHopefully he'll get better next season
Lin just accepted the harsh reality and just go straight to the bench. Somebody please kill me
ReplyDeleteLin plays 3 minutes in the 4th. Wow.
ReplyDeleteThe Houston Rockets just hustled Yao Ming. Yao came to watch Lin and only saw 26 minutes of Lin
DeleteIt's called Kung Fu hustle
DeleteBy then it was a blowout game. Lin had open shots from behind the arc, but he didn't take the shot and instead chose to drive and pass it out.
DeleteGTH mcfail!!!
ReplyDeleteTell that to some posters here who still love McHale.
DeleteMcHale presided over this big win.
DeleteHe gets the blame AND the credit.
Lin is playing GREAT.
Spanked.
ReplyDeleteNow they know, they can't hang with Rox when Rox backcourt is doing well. Switching Asik on Aldridge stopped the bleeding 2nd half.
Not bad, 6/10 by Lin 2/3 treys only 4 assists tho. Harden was just heartbreaking.
Not bad? LOL. He was outstanding. Only played 26 minutes, mostly off-the-ball with bigs who can't dunk and refs who won't call any non-punches to the face.
DeleteLOL Asik. Costs Lin 3 assists per game.
ReplyDeleteAnother great game for Jeremy despite McHale dissing him.
16 pts and 4 assists in 26 minutes. Super efficient.
McHale truly hates the living hell out of Jeremy as a player, but Jeremy is so frickin' good he manages to have a nice game anyway.
Seriously...
DeleteI don't know what other young PG could put up quality games under the conditions Jeremy has -- crazy rotations, rampant misusage, constant undermining and underestimation by coaches and teammates.
Marathon, not a sprint. Jeremy's PER goes up. His knee gets a rest. He's forced to become a better 3pt shooter (we're already seeing progress).
And yet some people on this board still giving McHale the credit for being tough on Lin. Some people on this board just don't have common sense. That is the one thing I can't stand. The way Lin is being treated like trash, most players would just lose faith, but because he is so tough mentally he will take his game to the next level just to stick to this shit head.
DeleteHe IS MENTALLY TOUGH, no question.
DeleteI want to see JLin on the court more too (I really lose interest in the game whenever he's not on the court lol) but I'm not that mad about it today because the Rockets were in control and ahead in the entire game. JHarden was hot today, so the ball eventually ended up in his hands more. I'm happy that JLin was aggressive to the basket and looking to score his points. He seems more confident in his shooting now. The next 3 games will be on the road and against tough teams, so on the positive side I'm glad that JLin gets some more rest in this game.
DeleteOverall, Lin has a decent game with 16 points, 4 assists and 2 TO's. Lillard has 18 points but I think the majority of the points he scored on Beverly and other players. I think he scored 7 on Lin.
ReplyDeleteHe has a great game until Lin was made a scarified for Harden to pad his stats. Harden wanted a triple double going into this game. It's sicking to see such a talented player being wasted with a dumb and dumber.
DeleteHe was excellent tonight. No question about it.
DeleteHe played only 26 minutes! And he put up 16/4 with horrendous PnR bigs and biased officiating.
The only sore spot was Lilliard getting by him a couple times -- but so what? Lilliard and Lin and all the fast PGs in the league can blow by anyone one-on-one.
Dear Mchale, Jeremy is your STARTING PG, Douglas and Beverly are the backups. Give Lin the minutes he deserves.
ReplyDeleteYou are talking to a shit head with a 2 digit iq.
DeleteSo Lin got the Cinderella treatment again :(
ReplyDeleteStory of his pro life..
DeleteRox needed this win.
ReplyDeleteAwesome.
I hope this keeps up. Lin has good nights, Harden has good nights. Keep averaging 50+ pts, awesome!
Well, glad we won. Still hate McHale's rotation. Lin had a good game. He looks a lot more confident. Either way, McHale needs to realize that having Harden and Lin out at the same time is not smart. I wonder how long that's going to take him.
ReplyDeleteNever as long as dumb and dumber are in charge.
DeleteI HATE MCHELL. I can't believe that, in a great team win, and Lin playing extremely well, I feel utterly confused and depressed, because of the fucked up substitution patterns regarding Lin.
DeleteBringing in Lin with 6 minutes in a game that was already pretty much at garbage time status means either you let him play his six minutes in garbage time like a sub, or, you take him out when you bring in the subs. Which is what McHell did, meaning Beverly played 9 minutes in the fourth and Lin played only 3.
What the hell is Lin to do? Play well, get subbed out. Play poorly, get subbed out. They treat Lin more like a sub than a starter. Fucking bullshit.
It's not a big deal that Lin didn't play much in 4Q.
ReplyDeleteHe actually was quite effective with 16pts/4asts in 26 min.
Harden got the hot hands and he should get the ball, just like Lin did against GSW.
HOU needed this win badly and it's quite amazing that the game was not even close.
The only thing that I don't like is how Lin got a short leash getting pulled after making 1 bad TO.
I agreed. Harden should definitely get the minutes since he was hot, but McHale should pull him also when he is playing crappy. Would have prefer McHale to play Lin more in the 4th quarter instead of leaving Beverly in. Starting PG should have starting minutes. Lin was playing sound tonight and coaching staff screwed his stat.
DeleteBeverley was very active at the end of 3Q so I don't mind coaches letting him play in 4Q.
DeleteBy pulling Lin after 1 bad TO, the coaches didn't help Lin's confidence to make plays and be aggressive. I gave them the benefit of the doubt this time because it was a careless TO more than "trying to make play" TO.
Lin was really productive with his hot 3PT shots. I'm pleased to see that.
I agree but I don't think he was pulled "because" of the turn over. I think it was just the rotation. He did shot 60% with 16 points. He had a really good and efficient game. Which in a 35 minutes would probably translate to 20+ with 8 assists. But, I still don't like McHale's rotations. Glad we won. It was a really important win.
DeleteI disagree, I think it's a HUGE deal that Lin didn't play much in the fourth, because it shows us that McHell still does not value Lin as a legitimate starting point guard, and this game just feeds McHell's belief that Lin is NOT that important to the team, and justify his disrespectful treatment of Lin.
DeleteIn this game, a blow-out, it didn't affect the game. But, McHell's substitution decisions regarding Lin in the game against Denver and Miami basically lost the Rockets those games, as he kept playing TD longer than he should have.
It was a good and important win for the playoffs.
DeleteJLin again played an effective game on offense and defense. The Rockets look different with JLin on the floor and conducting the defense. I was disappointed that McHale pulled JLin after that turnover and that didn't insert JLin in until 6 minutes into the 4th (even though he could have inserted him one stoppage before). I was ok with it since Beverley made some solid plays during that time.
Asik made some eye opening blocks and has another double digit rebound game. He still can't catch bounce passes very well, but the teammates have learned to get the ball to him up above his waist. Asik did a good job of challenging LMA's jumpers, but LMA was just on tonight.
PPat was hitting his jumpers and had a few entertaining power dunks. For a while at the end of the third while playing with the bench, Parsons showed signs that he is capable of being that main offensive option on the floor. Harden played a good game. He made the win seem easy.
I'm just worried about nights when he isn't hot or when he is hot teams double team him to force the ball out of his hands instead of clearing out one side of the floor and letting him play iso. I guess that's a worry for another game. For now, it was a good and important win against another team fighting for a playoff spot!
I meant conducting the *offense. But he is also an instrumental player on defense.
DeleteRoberlin,
DeleteWhich is why Lin will be traded before next year's trade deadline. Morey's dream is to have Harden plays along side Llull.
@Roberlin~ I guess we'll have to see how it goes next games. It's hard to see what might be the problem when everybody's rather satisfied/ relieved over this impt win.
DeleteRockets = Harden's team. Lin = nobody This is the philosophy of Mcfail and co. So dumb and short sighted.
ReplyDeletePatterson only got one more minute than Lin this game and he's also a starter. Lin was allowed to play point guard this game. I'm satisfied.
ReplyDeleteJLIN TO ASIK FOR THE SLAM VS POR
ReplyDeleteLin only played 26 minutes this game. To put it in context, Beverley played 20 minutes. And this was with Lin playing pretty well on both defense and offense. What the hell.
ReplyDeleteAlso, Lin would have gotten more minutes if it wasn't such a heavy win.
ReplyDeleteMaybe he wants to save Lin for the road trip. This game was in control and Beverly had good energy so I think it was okay to give Jeremy a break. They will need him on the road trip, especially with TD out.
ReplyDeleteThat too can be true. We won, Lin had a super efficient game in just 26 minutes. We have some tough matchups ahead. Specially that back to back with GS and Clippers next week. People think that the soreness and tiredness is ok with one day of rest. But trust me it's not. I want a good win in Sacramento with a good rest for the starters. And for Lin to kill it vs GS and Clippers.
DeleteYou guys don't get it. There's a huge problem with letting Beverly play starter minutes basically in this game. You aren't thinking LONG TERM. It's important to let Lin play with the starters as much as possible to continue to develop team cohesion and more clearly figure out how to play with each other, especially because this team is so young and still learning how to play as individuals, and as a team.
DeleteBut, you can't do that if you minimize the minutes the starting core plays together during the regular season.
You also prevent Lin from working on his own game, not letting him get into a flow. And by dramatically limiting his limits, it prevented him from getting even better numbers, which is important for his confidence and helpful in shutting down haters.
I'd also add he's averaging 32.9 minutes a game this season. There's nothing wrong with that. I rather Lin play 33 minutes a game than 38 minutes a game: It's healthier.
ReplyDeleteyou guys are nuts
ReplyDeletethey dominated this game. lin played an all-round good game.
be thankful he got rest! why do you need to log more minutes for lin and give him more punishment when the game is in hand?
Lin was not happy. If he was happy I wouldn't have been fine, but look at his face. He is not happy.
DeleteAgree with you alcsd, Jeremy wasn't happy. Come on Jeremy fans, Jeremy didn't look happy and what does that tell us?
Deleteif you haven't noticed, he looks like that every single game on the bench: sleepy, disinterested :)
DeleteYou guys don't know whether Jeremy is happy or not by looking at his face. come on!
Delete@bamboo forest is right...if you haven't noticed, jeremy has that stone-cold, stoic look. he'll drill a three in your face and still look like he's sleepy
DeleteI love talking to people with common sense like you. Some people just choose to be blind and still want to give McHale the credit. Lin is improving so he can still it to the coaching staff, Morey, and most of all Dolan. Lin will never go back to NY willingly.
DeleteHarden is a good person, but he has a huge ego which makes him very selfish. This is why he doesn't want Lin to shine. I can understand him wanting to prove that he is worth the contract Houston is giving him and he wants to make OKC looks bad for giving him up, but still I just can't see them co-exit.
Lin has a very laid back demeanor. It's just part of his personality. And you know what: I like it.
DeleteI meant to say he can stick it to the coaching staff, Morey, and most of all Dolan.
DeleteHe was definitely not as happy as when he was the primary PG.
DeletePer his radio interview, he felt it's easier to play second-string to Harden now compared to the earlier games.
But it's still hard for him to be aggressive to pick his spot when Harden was the primary PG.
Over time, it will benefit both Lin and Harden. Lin will learn to pick his spot and be aggressive when Harden is the primary PG and vice versa.
For now, it's not quite easy for either one of them. I haven't seen Lin and Harden consistently move without the ball to attack the basket when defense focus on the other. When that time arrives, these two will be unstopppable.
Why shouldn't McHale get the credit, alscd?
DeleteThe Rockets won by nearly 20 against a much more talented Blazers team.
So Jeremy Lin didn't play 30 minutes. It's not as if he HAD TO play more minutes.
As long as Lin plays aggressively and efficiently to get the win, I'm good.
who says they can't co exist. I'm a huge Lin fan , but thank God , Lin is doing just fine right now , even with things that are out of his control. (i.e. playing with Harden).
Delete@khuang is right. lin played efficiently. he shot his jumpers with confidence, and without hesitation. he picked his spots to attack.
Deletenba regular season is a grind. be thankful he rested. in his minutes he already got nailed in the head and hit in the rib cage today
Khuang,
DeleteI am tired of talking to you about McHale. You just don't make sense. Why don't we agree to disagree and save each time and energy.
alcsd, to put things in perspective consider how Harden let Lin shine with 28 pts against GSW while he only took 10 shots.
DeleteAnd Harden shined today with 35 pts with incredible shooting and scoring. Lin hit 2/3 3PT shooting (actually 3/4 if his foot was not on the line). They are learning to play together while not having the ball in their hands all the time.
I think Lin and Harden are both unselfish as they are proving in their games. They only played together for 3 months so give them some time.
BTW, I think McHale/Sampson are not perfect in handling Lin with the short leash but Lin is a big boy and he can handle it.
DeleteI give credit to them in letting Harden and Lin finish the 4Q together as starters.
Come on, people. See the positives along with the negatives so we don't go bonkers.
who say that? who say jeremy look like that every game on the bench? nonono. look at the game with jazz. He was cheering high like he's on drug on the bench!
DeleteRox shot 59% overall and 12-for-26 from 3-pt range. [Won 6 of 8 overall.]
ReplyDeleteI hope the Rockets are not peaking too early. By the end of the regular season, I don't want the starters to run out of gas. Best to pace themselves, so hopefully the bench can get more playing time as long as they keep linning.
ReplyDeleteRockets coaching staff don't want Lin to shine. It's Harden's team and not Lin's. If not for Lin's defense on Lillard, Rockets will not win tonite - and that's the game changer
ReplyDeleteRidiculous. Ridiculous. Ridiculous.
DeleteYou do know that Lin had a super efficient game in just 26 minutes on the floor. And that he DOMINATED GS and Stephen Curry just a couple of nights ago. I hope you do.
Deletejp2123, I'm a huge Jeremy Lin fan. But I call out a ridiculous comment when I see one. Jeremy Lin is my favorite NBA player without any question. In fact, HE is the reason I watch the NBA. But sorry, I don't think the coaching staff doesn't want Lin to win. I think they want to WIN. Even if Mchale has done some very strange substituions, that's just his odd coaching. And while Lin played really good this game, I give the credit for the win to Harden above all other players. Just look at his stats.
Deleteso if anyone is going to get the 'game changer' credit this game it's going to be Harden. That said, it is a *team win*.
Delete@ via or john ly, are you guys going to start a post game thread? Just wondering.
ReplyDelete@JLinfan#1's discretion. :)
DeleteI am not the moderator.
DeleteI did not get to see the game... why did lin only get 26 min looks like he was shooting well?
ReplyDeleteask Mcfail, he is the only one capable of answer your question.
DeleteThey had a big lead. I am sure if they were beginning to lose the lead, Jeremy would have been put back in.
Deletegame was in control. no need to him to log more minutes. lin played well.
Deleteeven bill worrell and drexler were saying how well he controlled the tempo of the game
Ah okay.. well I saw Harden and Parsons with 38 min.. actually I saw all the starters with more minutes and Beaverly of all people with 20... seems strange to me.
DeleteI know his ankle's been messed up, so maybe it's better not to aggregate it when they have such a big lead and Harden is in control of the ball/scoring.
DeleteThe only problem I have is that, he's not seen as a core player like Parsons/Harden, his minutes aren't guaranteed like theirs. Lin's minutes depend on whether his back up completely sucks it up or not. If his back up sucks, he'll get more than 30 minutes. For awhile, he wasn't guaranteed to finish games/come back in the fourth...at least that's changing and the coaching staff is realizing that he might be an asset during crucial minutes.
Harden was going mental on the Blazers so they just let him have fun tonight. Not sure why Parsons was in so long though.
DeleteBecause Parsons' backup didn't play well today while Lin's backup played well and deserved more minutes?
DeleteLast game people complained McHale benched Parsons, this game Parsons should not be in so long? You guys are funny.
'just caught the last 7 minutes of the game and no Lin in sight.
ReplyDeleteAt least when he was inserted back, I saw him hit his last 2 points in the game through that jumper.
16 pts , 4 assts.
I'm good. :>
@pete u need to get off lin's nuts. Lin had a good game, he got some well deserved rest. I rather see him rest then play when the game is in the bag. Your comment on hating rockets trusting harden and giving him minutes more than Lin , ummm Harden is much better and looks much more fitter than Lin so i don't see anything wrong with that.
ReplyDeleteI as a basketball purist cannot agree with the assessment that Lin is worse than Harden.
DeleteLin is the guy that opponents seek to stop, because of his ability to get the entire team going. Opponents let Harden just go.
Some "Lin fans" apparently wanted Lin to play garbage minutes and pad his stats. The Rockets blew out the opposing team and Lin played well. They still complained and complained. And somehow McHale "suck" for winning this game and Harden was "selfish" for dishing out 11 assists.
DeleteLin is a very good point guard but Harden is a superior player overall. I realize the die hard Lin fans here will disagree with that but in the same breath they may say that nobody is better than Lin in the NBA and that's just not objective. Harden is elite, plain and simple. Lin isn't elite but he's very good. I hope one day Jeremy Lin is elite, that would be amazing.
Deletebut khuang, lin should be given a chance to shine too. if lin didn't play bad, coaches should just let him play. opponents always try to stop lin, so does that mean coaches have to take lin out of the game even when he is feeling it? might as well cut lin from the Rox?
Deletelooking at the overall team perspective, yeah, it's ok to pull lin out when so and so has hot hands, but coaches subbing pattern is not helping lin to have better stats and i'm pretty sure coaches are aware of the criticism lin has been getting so far?
don't want lin to play garbage mins but at least he should be getting more mins when the team is pushing the lead.
McHale was just sticking with the group who turned a close game into a blowout. I saw nothing wrong with that.
DeleteWhy should the coach's sub pattern have to help Lin to have better stats? The coach's job is to win games, not to help out any individual's stats.
TROLLS ARE COMING OUT FULL FORCE. DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME AND ENERGY WITH TIME. IGNORE THEM AND THEY WILL GO AWAY.
ReplyDeleteIt's all good. It's a long season and a lot of these guys have never started before, so you don't want to burn them out. Great to have these blowout games to let some of the starters rest.
ReplyDeleteHow do you create the hyperlinks?
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