For the record - Isiah Thomas shot 1 for 5 against Lin most of the game. Lin sat most of the 4th quarter, he played 3 total minutes in the 4th quarter. Isiah Thomas scored 16 of his 23 points in the 4th quarter. As always, when Lin sits the opposing guard LIGHTS UP Harden, Chandler, and Beverly/Douglas.
Dick Bavetta was called out by Tim Donaghy as being one of the biggest serial ref cheaters in the NBA. We saw that firsthand tonight against Jeremy Lin getting no less than 2 fake calls against him.
First one was against the Washington Wizards in his second start with the Knicks. Second one was earlier this season, I forget against whom. Third one was tonight, and KHuang was right, this was the only one where he dunked it under defensive pressure. It was fucking awesome.
Yup, the dunk made me feel better even though the Rockets lost the game. Rockets had the game in hand but they couldn't get defensive stops and the refs were biased. Too bad.
Uh, I don't remember a dunk in the Mav's game, but, I'm not certain. If so, then that would make it four dunks.
I think he'll dunk more often, because he dunked it tonight when he normally would not have. Something in him changed and made him realize that he needs to be able to dunk the ball to avoid getting blocked on drives to the basket.
Jeremy Lin definitely dunked on the Mavericks last year. Remember his insane 28 point, 14 assist clutch game to beat them? In the 4th quarter he made a clutch steal and then dunked it before flexing his arms and screaming. God I miss Linsanity. He has all the skills, it will come back the moment he is allowed to be the #1 star again on a team.
Today Lin had a LINSANE game AGAIN, scoring at will and shutting down not just Isaiah Thomas but the ENTIRE Kings team that could not score when Lin was actively in their faces. The refs stopped Lin, but the Kings could not.
Why the heck are we lamenting the loss of Linsanity when Lin is playing GREAT in the minutes he's given???
Yes, I remember that. That game was one of my favorite Linsanty game, I often go back to watch it when I depressed. But I remember the announcer wasn't sure it was an obvious dunk or not.
Lin first dunk was last year against the Wizards with a cross over against John Wall. It took Tyson by surprised. It was very similar type of dunk like tonight.
@Roberlin , coz it was a 'soft' dunk and if i remember right,the announcers didn't even call it a dunk. 'wasn't as spectacular as this oria one which is causing euphoria amongst us now...hehe
here's the link to that dunk when they played against the mavs - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVAxhSkk9Ak
Harden is supremely gifted but he is not clutch. I've seen every game this yr, there have been a half dozen to a dozen games where the game was on the line and Harden almost failed to deliver almost every single time. Harden is an efficient offensive player, not clutch, and likes to pad his stats like crazy especially in blowouts. Great at driving and drawing fouls, good 3-pt shooter, very bad PG (1 turnover for every assist), and one of the worst defenders at SG among starters. Rockets won't start winning the tough ones until they realize their best 4th quarter assassin is Jeremy Lin, not Harden. It's a similar adjustment period that LeBron went through in Miami, he was too nice in the beginning letting Wade dominate but their team just wasn't as good. At some point Jeremy Lin has to take over and assert himself, like LeBron did to finally own the Heat as his team, and Harden will respect it when he sees the results.
He actually had about 60-70 points scored against him because the Kings targeted him. They knew he wasn't even bothering to guard his man or fight through screens, so the Kings went at him and scored the majority of their team's points against Harden.
Harden was an utter SCRUB tonight. But as bad as he was, Jeremy Lin saved him until the refs kicked him out of the game with fake fouls.
Clarification - he is supremely gifted offensively. He's like Kyrie Irving. Both are good on offense, tons of hype, and two of the WORST defenders by far in the entire league.
Mchale: "F you Haren and Alrich and Morris and Beverley. You guys don't deserve the letter D in your names!"
McHale: "Lin, you're alright. Thanks for trying to bail us out this game defensively. That's why I put your yellow ass back in the game despite 5 fouls!"
I don't know what it is but I feel like Lin's true potential is getting buried as the season progresses. I feel like he's holding himself back to compliment Harden/serve as the ultimate team-first, role player kind of guy or the coaching staff don't know how to tap into his potential, so they encourage him to play the way he's been playing.
Yea, I agree with KHuang, Lin was freakin' awesome tonight. And very aggressive. At the end of the second quarter, he blew off Harden to take the last shot. He got fouled, but, of course, there was no call.
That's what was so frustrating. He was playing an outstanding game in every respect and then some BS officiating decided to take matters into their own hands.
The only bright side, like I said, is that McHale saw for himself how crucial Jeremy was. Despite Harden's big stats and offensive brilliance, the team is totally lost without Lin.
When he got in foul trouble, the game was in jeopardy. When he fouled out, the game was over.
There are times when his teammates are sucking and he keeps passing the ball to them. He needs to realize that if he's shooting well, then he needs to score. He had opportunities to score and increase their lead.
ksmith, have to respectfully disagree there. I really didn't see any unnecessary deference on Lin's part this game. If he could have played the fourth quarter without having to sit with his fifth foul, I guarantee he would have gone linsanity on Sacramento, because when he's allowed to play point guard, he always elevates his game during crunch time in the fourth.
Right, and he was dominating the game. Until the foul trouble.
I only mention that he's had to play point guard to elevate his game, because people will bring up the Miami game and the airball three.
But, his game has developed since then, that, even if Harden becomes the primary ball handler, he can still go linsanity in the fourth with his shooting.
Had Lin gotten the opportunity to finish the game, he still would have only finished the game at 32 min. His norm. The coaches don't think he's capable of more than 32 minutes...even tonight, when they actually needed him.
ksmith, you forgetting that he got taken out in the third quarter after he had just gotten back in because of foul trouble. He would have gotten 38 minutes or so without the foul problem.
Had Lin not gotten into foul trouble and got calls offensively, he'd have BEAT DOWN the Kings singlehandedly in the 3rd quarter!
The Rockets were up 10 when Lin was hit with the fake 4th foul off Francisco Garcia making a baseline spin move after Lin cleanly forced him out of bounds.
A cleanly officiated Lin would've had the Rockets up by 15 at that point. Then Patrick Beverley could've come in and closed the game out in garbage time.
Trust me, I agree that had he not gotten in foul trouble, they would have won the game but that's what's annoying. He should have realized how the refs were calling the game and adjusted. Walt Frazier always says this. The player has to adjust his game according to how the refs are calling it.
Do you guys think he was slower/quicker to foul Thomas because of his ankle? After he picked up his 4th, he went to the bench for awhile and right when he was going to put some ice on his ankle, mchale summoned him back in.
ksmith, the refs were inconsistent. The first half, they didn't call anything, and my god, it was hack city by both teams. When players got body-slammed, no call. But, they called every single ticky-tack foul.
And I swear, Sacramento's center (forgetting his name) traveled all the way to Europe and no call by the refs. I think they actually called a foul on Asik.
Worst officiated game ever. And that ball went off of Asik, and yet after looking at the replay, they gave the ball back to Houston. Lol.
KHuang, you are right! I don't play basket ball,so I don't know about, if there is a lesson kind, like not to foul in the game. Forgive me, I just started enjoying nba a little over one year.
I don't think I've ever seen that play before, where a player blocks the shot, gets the steal, then runs a one-man fast break the full length of the court for a dunk. For one thing, not many players can do all of those things - it's a play that someone like LeBron, Durant, Wade, could do, but I don't ever recall seeing them do what Lin did tonight.
ksmith, no no, that's not right - it was BLOCKED SHOT, then steal, then one man fast break, then dunk. It's the blocked shot that makes the play one of the best individual plays I've ever seen in a basketball game.
i had this really weird dream last night that douglas was fouled twice and both from shooting 3's but he wasnt able to make those free throws and now Rockets lost by 6 points. Oh well
yup i hate prophetic dream lol. I also had one against the lakers where Lin shoot the winning goal. Not the same scenario but same result, we won. i really should dream about the rockets making it to the play-off.
It's better not to mess with Dick Bavetta. One of the dirtiest refs in the NBA, he totally rigs games. But he is vindictive. He has screwed the Spurs and Tim Duncan for Duncan's entire career.
U know, Lin always gives surprise Remember the first monster dunk against Wizards? Tyson Chandler said he didn't even know Lin can dunk at all. When Lin ran across John Wall, Tyson just think "lays it in, Jeremy" Jeremy seldom show off, but when he did, it makes my day. Haha
I'm usually pretty mellow about the racial rants but man tonight the bs pulled on Lin has gotten on my nerves. FKing refs got my boy out on a couple phantom calls, and don't call sh*t when my boy gets pushed/hacked. If that ain't racism I don't know what is.
I know what happened: Lin BLOCKED and DUNKED on NON ASIAN FOLKS. So they're like FK this get Lin outta here.
Rest of Rox suffered, Harden and wow when Beverley got elbowed by Thomas...OMG I was going to throw my chair at my TV when ref just stared Beverley down and did NOTHING.
The US media (hollywood movies, TV, news, society) is totally r.acist against Asian American males while loving Asian women (those who kiss up and play the stereotype).
Jeremy Lin is facing (and bringing out) a lot of public, ugly opinions in people that normally is always there under the surface. I hope he stays healthy and keeps a level head because it's a lot of attention, irrational hate, and pressure that he deals with every day. It doesn't help too when you have dumb haters from some Asian people themselves, usually those with self-loathing or think they are bananas and cater acceptance with white people by internalizing and supporting Asian r.acism.
Because Keith Smart unfairly benched Lin behind a total SCRUB in Acie Law in Golden State, then talked bad about Lin's game the following season when Linsanity broke out, that's why!
Lin and Smart being on good terms does not erase Smart's DUMBASS behavior.
I'm in an awful mood tonight, and I ain't apologizing for it either.
Dantoni also benched Lin behind total scrubs and even non-point guards. Every coach in the NBA would have made Lin 14th man on the team if they had him. It took utter desperation for the Knicks to put him in a meaningful game.
Kenoshi called it right. The refs were PISSED at Jeremy Lin dunking on them, so they kicked him out of the game with fake calls.
Normally I don't celebrate Chinese New Year, and I certainly don't follow Lin just because he's from Taiwan like me. But this time I am GLOATING. Jeremy Lin dunked on Keith Smart, the racist NBA refs, and that stupid racist announcer on NBA.com that said that Lin was slow. The dunk made it ALL WORTH IT.
Sorry, I don't buy into racist conspiracy theories. Unconscious racial bias and stereotypes distorting their view of reality, yes, but, not racist conspiracies. But, hey, if you want to believe in that, that's your right and opinion.
Ok, not everyone is racist. Some calls were horrible though. But imagine. Thomas is what 5-8? and then you got Lin a 6-2 200 lbs guy. So every single move Thomas makes that looks like a foul they counted it. I mean in all reality, that last foul and the "charge" where two of the most horrible calls I have seen. I hope he gets a call from the commissioner for that FLOP!
jp2123, the 4th foul call was when Francisco Garcia at 6'7" and 210 lbs drove the left baseline against Lin.
Lin cut him off completely, surprising Garcia. Garcia executed a clumsy spin move to avoid falling out of the baseline and bricked the layup. Garcia didn't flop, but the referees were hellbent on knocking Lin out of the game and so they handed Garcia the phantom foul.
Khuang, you misunderstand me. I said I dont believe in racist CONSPIRACIES - i.e., people getting together and deliberately agreeing to do bad things to Lin.
I do believe in, however, organic racial biases and stereotypes that don't require conspiracies in order to do racist harm. If you think about it, the organic racism I'm talking about is even more insidious than what you seem to be talking about, because the racism occurs as if it has a life of its own.
But, whatever, you want to hang on to conspiracy theories and the KKK/Jim Crow type of racism, you go ahead.
People HAVE gotten together and deliberately agreed to do bad things to Lin. Carmelo and gang in NY did that with their tanking bit and media hate. NBA scouts and analysts have all agreed that Lin is not an NBA caliber player. Those ARE racist conspiracies against Lin.
And NBA referees? They're known to be the most dishonest referees in pro sports. Judging from the consistent racial bias they've shown not just against Lin but statistically proven bias against black vs. white players, the NBA refs definitely fall under the CONSPIRACY category.
Your insidious racism is 100% true. But so are the conspiracies that unfold right before our eyes. I just happen to call them out as they take place, that's all. Nothing against you, really.
I think you need to look up the definition of conspiracy. For there to be a conspiracy among NBA scouts to say that Lin is not an NBA starter, they would have had to come together on a conference call, and agree to say that he is not a starter.
Btw, let's be clear, no one would say Lin is not an NBA caliber player. Every NBA scout and analyst would say he's an NBA caliber player. There's too much actual empirical data to say he belongs in the D-League. BUT - what they all say now is that he is not an NBA starter or an average starter at best.
Have you not forgotten all the anti-Lin BS fired at him in 2010 when he was not drafted?
When Lin was going off for 18 and 10 against the Pacers last year, a bunch of NBA scouts seated together at the game were saying in the media "Yup, he's not good enough to play in the NBA". That's actually better than a conference call because those scouts were discussing Lin amongst each other.
I don't know what NBA scouts are saying about Lin now, as they have been silent on the subject. But I know that the vast majority of them would have to EAT THEIR WORDS if they were asked about Lin's game now vs. then. I also wouldn't be surprised if many of them didn't think that Jeremy Lin is truly an NBA caliber player, actually.
Here's some good news guys. Houston fans are actually saying the refs cost the game by fouling Lin out. Folks are actually acknowledging we need Lin to win now!
Anybody who's been watching Lin knows that he's been necessary to win since PRESEASON.
Either those folks are dumber than I thought for being slow to recognize Lin's OBVIOUS important, or they're more RACIST than I thought to deliberately try to ignore Lin's dramatic on court contributions. Notice how it's still awful no matter which way it's spun?
LOL, Lin fouling out may actually turn out to be the best thing for him and the team. Cuz, the team, led by bearden and beverly, looked absolutely lost and incompetent without Lin during crunch time.
The frontcourt was overmatched today, but they weren't the real reason the Rockets got outrebounded.
The real reason is that Harden and Beverley got GREYHOUNDED by Salmons and Garcia and Thomas on screens. Since neither Harden nor Beverley bothered to help out on the boards because they were leaking out for fast break cherry picking, the Rockets got beat because Asik was all by himself rebounding against 3 or more Sacramento players.
I really hated the way Harden and Beverley played this game. If I were a coach, I'd be screaming at Harden threatening to make him a 6th man again until he starts at least PRETENDING to play defense. Beverley I would go easy on just because he doesn't have NBA ability and is fighting for a job despite his limited talent.
It's too bad that the block-steal-onemanfastbreak-dunk probably won't get much airplay because Houston lost the game. And because it wasn't Harden who did it.
Jeremy Lin's dunk number 3 in top 10 tonight! :D That was incredible to witness. Sadly refs cost us the game. It was a must but can't wait for tuesday's rematch! :D
Just got back from the game. Was one row behind the bench, so I got pretty close to the action. BTW, watching the game so close was really fun. Definitely something to do if you ever have the chance.
Few thoughts, we lost the game due to some horrible calls. Don't know how you can call that 6th foul on Lin as well as the foul on 3 pointer on harden. That was 5 gimme points for Sacramento right there. It wasn't Dick Bavetta that made the call. Both calls were made by referee #44, whoever the dick is. Just don't know how u can make those calls in such a close game. But having said that, Jeremy shouldn't have been in that situation in the first place. Disappointed I didn't get to see him finish a close game.
Overall, I thought Jeremy played okay - somewhat average. Kind of inconsistent throughout, (really inconsistency sums up his season thus far). He had few good moments but too many times, I see him drive the lane just to stop and bring it out. It almost seems like he should just take it to the basket, During Lisanity I think he would've taken to the basket - perhaps it's coaching, perhaps he's worried about getting hurt. But too many times I think he just ends up "wasting" the move. He really knows how to blow by his perimeter defender.
That dunk was awesome though. I saw the bench stand up going crazy..didn't do much for the momentum as the next score was a sacramento 3.
One thing I noticed is the coaching staff talks to him A LOT during the game. Constantly. I don't know if he's getting berated or coached - but I don't think I've ever seen so much conversation for anyone during the game.
One weird thing I noticed was in the beginning of second half, there was short talk between McHale and Jeremy, followed by some short black dude in butterfly tie almost consoling Lin. Don't know what was said. But really, it looked like the guy was consoling him.
Beverly played well. He deserved the minutes he got. But when he came back in after Jeremy fouled out, he had no idea what he was supposed to do. He looked pretty ineffective as was the rest of the team. It just became Harden ISO ball with people around him just watching. Kinda pathetic.
Another disappointing play was Parsons. He had a miserable game. He just couldn't buy a shot. It's hard for the team to win when Parsons plays that badly.
Overall, tough loss for the team. Jeremy will need to prove himself again with Beverly on his back -if he wants to get more minutes. The striking thin for me to see was again Jeremy not being aggressive enough to take the ball to the rim. Really it was a subdued offensive game for him.
Good observations. On that last point, I don't think Lin needs to prove anything anymore. He was going to get 36 minutes tonight if he wouldn't have been in foul trouble. I thought the rotation was a lot better tonight. Glad you got to see Lin, must have been fun! :D
solidz, weird, most of us had opposite take on Lin's play watching on t.v.
As for Beverly, there is absolutely nothing to prove. His play in the last three minutes was clear confirmation for anyone that Beverly is NOT a starting point guard, let alone better than Lin. Ask those idiots at Clutchfans, would they want Lin or Beverly in the last minutes of a close game after seeing what they saw tonight. They'd look like utter fools to choose Beverly.
He entered the game with a nice fat lead created by Lin's dominance. That lead was utterly lost with Beverley in the game getting exposed as a poor defensive player.
If the Rockets coaches are dumb enough to think that Patrick Beverley is a bona fide NBA point guard with bona fide NBA point guard reflexes, then they're going to experience lots more bona fide NBA losses especially if they're INSANE ENOUGH to cut Lin's minutes for Beverley to lose games with.
KHuang, to be fair. They didn't cut Lin's minutes at all tonight for Beverley. So at least tonight I saw a step forward. Better rotation, and Lin should have ended with 36 minutes. That foul trouble (refs) killed us.
Beverly is a good energy guy. And in spurts, he can play well and make some good plays. But, he's still a bench player, and someone who's not guaranteed to be in the NBA next year.
Thanks for the report. jp2123 wrote a report after the game he went to (i think it was against the 76ers?) and mentioned that Lin got chewed out by the coaches (more so from Sampson than McHale) and was consoled by J. B. Bickerstaff. I think the guy that consoled Lin was J. B. Bickerstaff. There is definitely a pattern.
I never said that Lin's minutes were cut this game for Beverley.
In fact, I don't see the Rockets cutting Lin's minutes for ANYBODY.
Lin often wins games by the 3rd quarter when the NBA refs aren't cheating him too much. Even Lin fans here sometimes mistakenly think that Lin is being prematurely pulled when in truth he's being pulled so that garbage time can begin!
Beverley did great against their 2nd team, but he is just no match against the first team.
I don't really fault him much for that, it isn't his job and well he couldn't handle the pressure.
Thanks for the report solidz, it was LOUD when he made the dunk, someone on Clutchfans said a ton of people wore Lin jerseys, did you see some of that?
I think Lin was doing what Lin does 1st half...Find people shots first, but he did do better attacking when it was obvious he caught defenders flat footed.
I bet that short talk was probably Lin getting berated for bricking the last shot of 2nd quarter...Even though he was fouled...
No, honestly, as much I love Lin, I think we need to give credit when due. From the courtside, it looked like he did a lot of good things. He made some timely passes and did produce spark off the bench. That is not a knock on Lin but a compliment for Beverly. The dude is trying hard to get more minutes - you can't hate him for that. And I don't know how he looked on TV, but he did look good during the game except for the last 3 minutes. Perhaps this is why it seems like McHale leaves Lin's replacement for too long sometimes. I have to admit it looked funny when Beverly looked at Mchale whenever he thought he was coming in.
The guy who looked like he was consoling him was not Bickerstaff. It was a guy I've never seen on TV before - Short, Black and roundish guy. He was in LIn's ear after McHale's talk with Lin - with his arms around him and saying stuff to his ear. It really looked like he was trying to cheer Jeremy up.
Having said that it didn't look like McHale was yelling at Lin. He does coach him A LOT though during the game. Sampson on the other hand looked like a buffoon - just sitting there looking stupid - definitely not a head coach material.
McHale is definitely intimidating in person. He likes to work to sidelines a lot.
I though Dick Bavetta called a good game. It was the other ref that was calling B.S. fouls
Another thing was we couldn't rebound for shit. Sacramento got a lot of offensive rebounds during the crucial juncture of the game - no one was boxing out. So frustrating. That and parson's
@KHuang I did see them try and trap lin a couple times to the right like they were doing with Harden to the left in the beginning...But was kind of surprised someone would come and bail him out. For some reason they abandoned that.
Only good thing this game I can say is Lin saw some minutes without Harden and the block/dunk :D
A lot of Asian fans. it was some asian promotion night - this was why Lin was introduced last (after Harden) to really loud cheers.
Without a doubt, Lin brings in a lot of asian fans. This is why NBA needs to make sure he suceeds and gets the calls he should get. You can't deny his popularity - he brings in a new demographics to the games. It is in their best interest for him to succeed.
I don't know how you can fault LIn for the last shot in the second quarter. HE was clearly fouled - but no calls. This really has to change. Freaking ridiculous.
@K. Smith. I thought he went by Thomas a lot. He really has no issue getting into the paint. It's when he gets there when it looks like he could just take it to the hoop - he sees a big man and just backs out. It looks so doable from the courtside - but I just saw it happening too much during the game.
One thing I did notice before LIn got fouled out was Thomas complaining to the ref that jeremy was fouling him. Maybe he just got a home town discount - but still a b.s call nonetheless.
I think what McHale said to LIn throughout the night was not necessarily negative - it just looked like he was getting coached like a rookie (I've never seen so much coaching like this).
The thing that was intersting was that talk prior to the 2nd half - I actually have a clip of it. He looks really pissed - looking at it again now - almost like NOW WHAT.
How do I post clips from my iphone to this site. You guys can see it and make your own judgement.
Three questions: 1. Did you notice Lin tried to do something different everytime after McHale talked to him? Was he more aggressive or did he try to give ball to Harden or 3PT shooter? Or did he try to help more on defense? 2. How was his body language throughout the game? Was he comfortable running the offense or he had a short leash on what he's supposed to do? 3. Did you see the coaches talk to Harden after his bad defense? i.e. not blocking his man for the dunk
Yeah, a lot more than 3 questions but you get the idea :D
1. Not sure - wasn't paying too much attention to how he was playing after the talk. It just looked like Jeremy was aggressive in just spurts throughout the game. Honestly, I felt like Jeremy was holding things back on offense - this may be my biased view. 2. Jeremy didn't look like he was having that much fun - compared to say, the Utah game or the GSW game. Just kinda expressionless. At times, deflated. 3. Harden rarely ever pays attention to Mchale. Its funny because he looks at somewhere else during timeouts. I think Harden knows he is untouchable.
@Via, Harden didn't really have a run in. It was more like Harden was yelling 3 seconds, which was the right call. Bavetta made that call but "berated" Harden for being so loud. Harden was laughing his ass off. It's not like he got a technical.
thanks, @solidz. Yeah, perhaps his frustraton is due to his limited PG role to find 3PT shooters or Harden and be occasional 3PT shooters. It really handcuffed Lin's strength and creativity as a playmaker.
Plus KHuang's assertion of McHale's preference for motion offense not to let the PG dribble the ball for too long.
I don't think you can post the iphone clip to this blog but you can post it to youtube if you have gmail account, or any site that let you upload videos for public to download.
Psalm I think you are right. Llooking at Jeremy;s reaction to Mchale's talk before the second half again, I really don't think Jeremy is playing the way he wants to. Being the team player he is, he is trying to fit in. But I don;t know if this is the right way to use lin.
I can't see Lin staying with the Rockets for the entire duration of his contract. He and his team will request a trade. Lin is super competitive and I just can't see him okay with being oppressed by the coaches.
Adam Turner @BardCoachTurner Other than Steve Nash I am taking J Lin as the second best passer in NBA when it comes to different angles an always on time on target 7:35 PM - 10 Feb 13
Hey, Jeremy this season got The assist of the night The block of the night The steal of the night The play of the night So, one more dunk of the night pls!!!!!l LOL!!
Hey guys: Nice post game discussion. I caught the last 2:17 or so from being out doing the Chinese NY thing. Torocan is trying to keep CF sane, but there are some sensitive peops over there today. Gonna read some more and then watch the game on LP.
Just to note, I loved Kenoshi and KHuang's bit about "Dunk on Smart, get kicked out of Sac." That was pretty cool, consider Lin has held back on dunks this year. And, without your conversations, it's hard to catch that moment just right. I'm forwarding the youtube to my buds with that subject line :-) Thanks, guys.
I can't wait for Tues! Too bad my camera lense is 3.25" (limit is 3"). Should I try to get it in?
But, I wonder what the rule is regarding blocked shots that leads to a turnover - whether the person that comes up with the ball after the block is credited with a steal.
When one player knocks the ball out of the opposing player's hands, but, his teammate picks up the ball, who gets credited with the steal, the one who knocked it out, or the one who ended up with the ball?
I'm not sure if this was posted but finally someone is calling out mchell on his rotations with lin. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1524348-jeremy-lins-inconsistent-fourth-quarter-minutes-continue-to-stunt-development
I know it's bleacher report but I completely agree with this: "Until his minutes hit a more consistent level, Lin will continue to come up short of reaching his potential."
No Shit! Look at fucking Parsons! Why doesn't Lin or even Patterson get the same opportunities?
The dude must have read our posts on this thread, lol. It's sad when we're happy when the "experts" finally point out something that's clearly obvious.
Now, though, here's where I become conspiracy theorist and suggest that it may not be incompetence, but, because Morey and McHale have agreed that Lin is not in the Rocket's future plans because they think he's an okay player, but dispensable now that they have Harden. So, screw Lin's development, if McHale thinks he needs to be benched in order to win the game.
I still think a trade this year is a possibility, if they can get the power-forward they want in a trade involving Lin.
Plus it clearly Lin and McHale are not fond of each (lets us put it in mildly term), it becomes toxic and someone has to go. But I don't think they will trade Lin by this Feb 21. I think it will be next year.
A few smart coaches (Carisle-he has to game plan against Lin) and George Karl-Lin is the motor of the team) will ask for Lin because they know his value.
Ironically it's because of Lin the Rockets are are having a decent record and yet the coaches don't even value him.
I got a feeling Les would veto Lin trade this year and if McHale failed to reach the playoff by insisting Harden to be the main PG and underutilized Lin, he will be let go at some point.
Unfortunately, the earliest could be the 2nd year because of his daughter's passing a few months ago.
Adam Turner @BardCoachTurner If you put two guys that love sharing the ball together on the floor it is real fun to watch and you overachieve- #linandparsons
well I want to requote his tweet - If you put a PG that loves sharing the ball together on the floor it is real fun to watch and you overachieve
BLOCK OF THE NIGHT
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DeleteDunk you very much and Happy New Year :)
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElLpN3UBwMk
Yeah! At least we saw this in this game... lol
DeleteThat was a fantastic play! Maybe McHail will tell him do not show off like this? lol
ReplyDeleteIt will only be bcos McHale wants to "protect" him from...whatever. lol
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ReplyDeleteIsiah Thomas shot 1 for 5 against Lin most of the game.
Lin sat most of the 4th quarter, he played 3 total minutes in the 4th quarter.
Isiah Thomas scored 16 of his 23 points in the 4th quarter.
As always, when Lin sits the opposing guard LIGHTS UP Harden, Chandler, and Beverly/Douglas.
That was terrible. Lin was usually very careful about his PF, I guess refs burnt him.
DeleteRefs totally cheated tonight.
DeleteAfter all, this was a Dick Bavetta game.
Dick Bavetta was called out by Tim Donaghy as being one of the biggest serial ref cheaters in the NBA. We saw that firsthand tonight against Jeremy Lin getting no less than 2 fake calls against him.
I remember that few years ago... That skeleton needs to go.
DeleteKINGS BEAT ROCKETS AT THEIR OWN GAME
DeleteSomeone please tweet Isiah Thomas's numbers against Lin to McFail, Morey, Homer Simpson, Les, and the Houston t.v. announcers. And Howard Chin.
DeleteBeautiful dunk! was this one the first for this season? JLin always gives us some present for holidays, such as V-day, Chinese New Year.
ReplyDeleteI think he dunked once when vs Raptors.
DeleteNot the 1st
DeleteThis is the first time Lin dunked OVER someone in the NBA.
DeleteLin has had three dunks.
DeleteFirst one was against the Washington Wizards in his second start with the Knicks. Second one was earlier this season, I forget against whom. Third one was tonight, and KHuang was right, this was the only one where he dunked it under defensive pressure. It was fucking awesome.
Lin dunked against the Mavs last year, and also against the Pistons this year.
DeleteI feel that Lin could dunk more if he wanted to.
Yup, the dunk made me feel better even though the Rockets lost the game. Rockets had the game in hand but they couldn't get defensive stops and the refs were biased. Too bad.
DeleteUh, I don't remember a dunk in the Mav's game, but, I'm not certain. If so, then that would make it four dunks.
DeleteI think he'll dunk more often, because he dunked it tonight when he normally would not have. Something in him changed and made him realize that he needs to be able to dunk the ball to avoid getting blocked on drives to the basket.
Jeremy Lin definitely dunked on the Mavericks last year. Remember his insane 28 point, 14 assist clutch game to beat them? In the 4th quarter he made a clutch steal and then dunked it before flexing his arms and screaming. God I miss Linsanity. He has all the skills, it will come back the moment he is allowed to be the #1 star again on a team.
DeleteYeah, I think Spike Lee and some guy were hugging each other, jumping up and down at that dunk.
DeleteI don't miss Linsanity.
DeleteToday Lin had a LINSANE game AGAIN, scoring at will and shutting down not just Isaiah Thomas but the ENTIRE Kings team that could not score when Lin was actively in their faces. The refs stopped Lin, but the Kings could not.
Why the heck are we lamenting the loss of Linsanity when Lin is playing GREAT in the minutes he's given???
Yes, I remember that. That game was one of my favorite Linsanty game, I often go back to watch it when I depressed. But I remember the announcer wasn't sure it was an obvious dunk or not.
DeleteLin first dunk was last year against the Wizards with a cross over against John Wall. It took Tyson by surprised. It was very similar type of dunk like tonight.
DeleteI totally remember the Dallas game, the 3 pointer over Dirk, but am hazy on the dunk, I don't know why.
DeleteI missed today's game :(
DeleteWHY didnt McHale switch someone to guard IT?
JL should have taken more shots.
The team just bricked too many 3pointers, one of the main reason to the lost! WHen your 3s are not going, whats the point keep bricking it? sigh!
From the highlights,JL looked aggressive, but just not enough shots.
Good mix of dunks including college
@Roberlin , coz it was a 'soft' dunk and if i remember right,the announcers didn't even call it a dunk. 'wasn't as spectacular as this oria one which is causing euphoria
Deleteamongst us now...hehe
here's the link to that dunk when they played against the mavs - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVAxhSkk9Ak
LOL *oria??? what did i just type? and why does my keyboard keep on skipping and typing letters wrongly? haissst
DeleteJeremy Lin highlights vs Kings || Feb 10, 2013 || HD || (by Geraldd Lin)
ReplyDeleteDidn't watch the game live. How can we lose this one!? smh
DeleteHarden is supremely gifted but he is not clutch. I've seen every game this yr, there have been a half dozen to a dozen games where the game was on the line and Harden almost failed to deliver almost every single time.
DeleteHarden is an efficient offensive player, not clutch, and likes to pad his stats like crazy especially in blowouts. Great at driving and drawing fouls, good 3-pt shooter, very bad PG (1 turnover for every assist), and one of the worst defenders at SG among starters.
Rockets won't start winning the tough ones until they realize their best 4th quarter assassin is Jeremy Lin, not Harden. It's a similar adjustment period that LeBron went through in Miami, he was too nice in the beginning letting Wade dominate but their team just wasn't as good. At some point Jeremy Lin has to take over and assert himself, like LeBron did to finally own the Heat as his team, and Harden will respect it when he sees the results.
Harden is NOT supremely gifted.
DeleteHe got ROASTED on defense tonight.
He actually had about 60-70 points scored against him because the Kings targeted him. They knew he wasn't even bothering to guard his man or fight through screens, so the Kings went at him and scored the majority of their team's points against Harden.
Harden was an utter SCRUB tonight. But as bad as he was, Jeremy Lin saved him until the refs kicked him out of the game with fake fouls.
Clarification - he is supremely gifted offensively. He's like Kyrie Irving. Both are good on offense, tons of hype, and two of the WORST defenders by far in the entire league.
DeleteI have little regard for Kyrie Irving who is nothing more than a selfish false superstar.
DeleteTo me, it doesn't matter how many points a guy scores on offense if he gives up two or three times that on defense!
Kings 55 % 3-point shooting set up by dribble penetration.
ReplyDeleteMcHale: "They broke us down, got us in the paint, threw it out and made it.”
Translation:
DeleteMchale: "F you Haren and Alrich and Morris and Beverley. You guys don't deserve the letter D in your names!"
McHale: "Lin, you're alright. Thanks for trying to bail us out this game defensively. That's why I put your yellow ass back in the game despite 5 fouls!"
Well, we know the opposite will happen...sigh
DeleteLin played 29 minutes.
DeleteHe'd have played more had the refs not hit him with fake fouls.
McHale plays Lin in order to get wins. When the game is out of reach, Lin sits. It's that simple.
I don't know what it is but I feel like Lin's true potential is getting buried as the season progresses. I feel like he's holding himself back to compliment Harden/serve as the ultimate team-first, role player kind of guy or the coaching staff don't know how to tap into his potential, so they encourage him to play the way he's been playing.
ReplyDeleteI don't know how to explain it. Whatever.
I don't feel that way at all, k.smith.
DeleteIf anything, I felt that Lin is played BRILLIANTLY.
Tonight the refs cheated Lin of fouls, minutes, and the win. Even with the bad Rockets defense, Lin would've won this game for the Rockets.
Yea, I agree with KHuang, Lin was freakin' awesome tonight. And very aggressive. At the end of the second quarter, he blew off Harden to take the last shot. He got fouled, but, of course, there was no call.
DeleteThat's what was so frustrating. He was playing an outstanding game in every respect and then some BS officiating decided to take matters into their own hands.
DeleteThe only bright side, like I said, is that McHale saw for himself how crucial Jeremy was. Despite Harden's big stats and offensive brilliance, the team is totally lost without Lin.
When he got in foul trouble, the game was in jeopardy. When he fouled out, the game was over.
I think one thing that was holding Lin back was his rehab form the surgery. You don get good shot percentage when your legs are not strong.
DeleteThere are times when his teammates are sucking and he keeps passing the ball to them. He needs to realize that if he's shooting well, then he needs to score. He had opportunities to score and increase their lead.
Deleteksmith, have to respectfully disagree there. I really didn't see any unnecessary deference on Lin's part this game. If he could have played the fourth quarter without having to sit with his fifth foul, I guarantee he would have gone linsanity on Sacramento, because when he's allowed to play point guard, he always elevates his game during crunch time in the fourth.
DeleteLin WAS playing point guard this game.
DeleteHe was destroying Sacramento singlehandedly despite several teammates playing awfully.
When the Rockets need to win, they know to turn to Lin. They even tried to do that when he had his 5th foul.
Right, and he was dominating the game. Until the foul trouble.
DeleteI only mention that he's had to play point guard to elevate his game, because people will bring up the Miami game and the airball three.
But, his game has developed since then, that, even if Harden becomes the primary ball handler, he can still go linsanity in the fourth with his shooting.
why the fuck was Lin given less mins? he was 1 from 1 from the 3 and 5/8 from the field.. not to mention he had 1 TO.. WTF CUNTS?
ReplyDeleteRelax, dude. Lin got into foul trouble. That's why the low minutes.
DeleteHad Lin gotten the opportunity to finish the game, he still would have only finished the game at 32 min. His norm. The coaches don't think he's capable of more than 32 minutes...even tonight, when they actually needed him.
Deleteksmith, you forgetting that he got taken out in the third quarter after he had just gotten back in because of foul trouble. He would have gotten 38 minutes or so without the foul problem.
DeleteHad Lin not gotten into foul trouble and got calls offensively, he'd have BEAT DOWN the Kings singlehandedly in the 3rd quarter!
DeleteThe Rockets were up 10 when Lin was hit with the fake 4th foul off Francisco Garcia making a baseline spin move after Lin cleanly forced him out of bounds.
A cleanly officiated Lin would've had the Rockets up by 15 at that point. Then Patrick Beverley could've come in and closed the game out in garbage time.
I'm ok with coaches playing him 33-35 minutes. I don't really wanna see him played like last year. That was bad.
DeleteTrust me, I agree that had he not gotten in foul trouble, they would have won the game but that's what's annoying. He should have realized how the refs were calling the game and adjusted. Walt Frazier always says this. The player has to adjust his game according to how the refs are calling it.
DeleteNO WAY, k.smith.
DeleteThe refs were truly out to get Lin this game.
He got hammered on offense, and he got nailed with no less than two zero contact fouls.
guess he will learn a lesson after this. I have never thought he would have foul trouble.
DeleteDo you guys think he was slower/quicker to foul Thomas because of his ankle? After he picked up his 4th, he went to the bench for awhile and right when he was going to put some ice on his ankle, mchale summoned him back in.
DeleteDoes anyone remember this?
There's no "lesson" to be learned from lying cheating referees.
Deleteksmith, the refs were inconsistent. The first half, they didn't call anything, and my god, it was hack city by both teams. When players got body-slammed, no call. But, they called every single ticky-tack foul.
DeleteAnd I swear, Sacramento's center (forgetting his name) traveled all the way to Europe and no call by the refs. I think they actually called a foul on Asik.
Worst officiated game ever. And that ball went off of Asik, and yet after looking at the replay, they gave the ball back to Houston. Lol.
KHuang, you are right! I don't play basket ball,so I don't know about, if there is a lesson kind, like not to foul in the game. Forgive me, I just started enjoying nba a little over one year.
DeleteYou're OK, LinFanOnly.
DeleteNo need to apologize. I wasn't trying to criticize you at all.
If Lin had a problem fouling, I'd criticize Lin for it. But he is the NBA's absolute best defensive guard and played most of the game without fouling.
Just keep watching Lin and learning the game. Enjoy the game!
I hope Solidz75 gives us his analysis since he was at the game!
ReplyDeleteI don't think I've ever seen that play before, where a player blocks the shot, gets the steal, then runs a one-man fast break the full length of the court for a dunk. For one thing, not many players can do all of those things - it's a play that someone like LeBron, Durant, Wade, could do, but I don't ever recall seeing them do what Lin did tonight.
ReplyDeleteYes, very very exciting to watch! And beautiful!
DeleteMJ LBJ and KOBE did that b4, not sure about others.
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Deleteksmith, no no, that's not right - it was BLOCKED SHOT, then steal, then one man fast break, then dunk. It's the blocked shot that makes the play one of the best individual plays I've ever seen in a basketball game.
DeleteRoberlin, sorry! I meant block and dunk of the night.
DeleteKsmith! C'mon man, now you forgot the STEAL!!
DeleteBLOCK, STEAL, going coast to coast for the dunk.
Block, steal, dunk.
Block, steal, dunk.
Block, steal, dunk.
Sorry! Kinda out of it tonight.
Deletelol, no problem.
DeleteBlock, steal, AND dunk. :)
I watched the replay of the last Lin foul, and that was such a bullshit call
ReplyDeleteNot to mention the 4th foul as well.
DeleteNot to mention the non-call on a first-quarter fastbreak.
Not to mention...you see where this is going.
4th foul was legit, all kinds of contact, Lin should have just let Thomas go.
DeleteBut the phantom call I think in 2nd or was it 3rd where it should have been jumpball at most...That pissed me off.
The last call was bogus but hey whatever Keith Smart paid me so let's get Lin out of the game.
Oh yeah I meant 5th sorry :/
Deletei had this really weird dream last night that douglas was fouled twice and both from shooting 3's but he wasnt able to make those free throws and now Rockets lost by 6 points. Oh well
ReplyDeleteDon't dream those kind of dreams again, @romz... :>
Deleteyup i hate prophetic dream lol. I also had one against the lakers where Lin shoot the winning goal. Not the same scenario but same result, we won. i really should dream about the rockets making it to the play-off.
DeleteWear your favorite pjs, have a glass of milk, do whatever you have to -> DREAM GOOD PLAYOFF DREAMS..!
DeleteC'mon , if you have that prophetic gift , then you should really dream about the Rox making it to the play-offs. :>
DeleteDuring the game~
ReplyDeleteHarden SCREAMING at Dick Bavetta for a 3sec violation, Bavetta screams back: "let me make the call" which shocked Harden.
Bavetta <- Known Rocket-hater.
Deletelol that's when you know the ref are fucking you up.
DeleteIt's better not to mess with Dick Bavetta. One of the dirtiest refs in the NBA, he totally rigs games. But he is vindictive. He has screwed the Spurs and Tim Duncan for Duncan's entire career.
DeleteHappy Chinese New Year to JLin! Love your dunk play tonight!
ReplyDeleteAll bench were cheering when he made the dunk
DeleteHis teammates support is really important
Yeah! I love that Parsons was all pumped up with that DUNK!
DeleteU know, Lin always gives surprise
DeleteRemember the first monster dunk against Wizards?
Tyson Chandler said he didn't even know Lin can dunk at all. When Lin ran
across John Wall, Tyson just think "lays it in, Jeremy"
Jeremy seldom show off, but when he did, it makes my day. Haha
I also have to point out the screaming RACISM on NBA.com's highlights.
ReplyDeleteThe old white announcer said that Lin "was not as fast as you'd like to see in a point guard".
PURE UTTER RACISM.
Say that shit about a slow player like Raymond Felton, not about a guy like Lin who tested out as one of the fastest PGs in the NBA.
yea, that shit's annoying as hell.
DeleteWhen I rail against embedded racism against Asian males in the US media, I'm just SCRATCHING THE SURFACE.
DeleteI'm in an unusually BAD MOOD tonight because the anti-Asian racism on and off the court is PISSING MY YELLOW ASS OFF.
You go KHuang!
DeleteI'm usually pretty mellow about the racial rants but man tonight the bs pulled on Lin has gotten on my nerves. FKing refs got my boy out on a couple phantom calls, and don't call sh*t when my boy gets pushed/hacked. If that ain't racism I don't know what is.
I know what happened: Lin BLOCKED and DUNKED on NON ASIAN FOLKS. So they're like FK this get Lin outta here.
Rest of Rox suffered, Harden and wow when Beverley got elbowed by Thomas...OMG I was going to throw my chair at my TV when ref just stared Beverley down and did NOTHING.
This was the most racist game I've seen Lin play in.
DeleteWhat's awesome is that Lin is SO DAMN GOOD that he totally dominated while he was in the game.
Sacramento could not beat Lin. They could beat the Rockets, but they could not beat Lin.
Morey brags about Harden. He knows the facts of Lin's athleticism. I'd like to see him brag about Lin a little. And see McHale defend Lin to the refs!
Deleteisn't it obvious? same thing happened to Yao, even Van Gundy called out the referees for specially targeting Yao.
DeleteIt'll mean a lot [to JLin] to see that McHale's got his back...
DeleteThe US media (hollywood movies, TV, news, society) is totally r.acist against Asian American males while loving Asian women (those who kiss up and play the stereotype).
ReplyDeleteJeremy Lin is facing (and bringing out) a lot of public, ugly opinions in people that normally is always there under the surface. I hope he stays healthy and keeps a level head because it's a lot of attention, irrational hate, and pressure that he deals with every day. It doesn't help too when you have dumb haters from some Asian people themselves, usually those with self-loathing or think they are bananas and cater acceptance with white people by internalizing and supporting Asian r.acism.
Jeremy Lin needs to start SHOWBOATING these racists.
DeleteI liked how he was like "You gotta be kidding me" with those fake fouls. That's good showboating.
Lin dunked on Keith Smart!!!
Why are you hating on Keith Smart? He and Lin are on good terms.
DeleteBecause Keith Smart unfairly benched Lin behind a total SCRUB in Acie Law in Golden State, then talked bad about Lin's game the following season when Linsanity broke out, that's why!
DeleteLin and Smart being on good terms does not erase Smart's DUMBASS behavior.
I'm in an awful mood tonight, and I ain't apologizing for it either.
Dantoni also benched Lin behind total scrubs and even non-point guards. Every coach in the NBA would have made Lin 14th man on the team if they had him. It took utter desperation for the Knicks to put him in a meaningful game.
DeleteSo, Smart wasn't worse than everyone else in the NBA and the world.
DeleteHELL NO Roberlin, racism by many racists does not make racism more acceptable.
DeleteDantoni, Smart - they're ancient history largely because of Lin.
Lin is COACH KILLAH!
I call today "The Dunk Game".
ReplyDeleteKenoshi called it right. The refs were PISSED at Jeremy Lin dunking on them, so they kicked him out of the game with fake calls.
Normally I don't celebrate Chinese New Year, and I certainly don't follow Lin just because he's from Taiwan like me. But this time I am GLOATING. Jeremy Lin dunked on Keith Smart, the racist NBA refs, and that stupid racist announcer on
NBA.com that said that Lin was slow. The dunk made it ALL WORTH IT.
Happy New Year, racist byatches.
Why would refs be pissed at Lin's dunk?
DeleteBecause, like Kenoshi said, Lin dunked on a bunch of NONASIAN folks.
DeleteToo much racist ref cheating.
I HATE HATE HATE NBA refs.
Sorry, I don't buy into racist conspiracy theories. Unconscious racial bias and stereotypes distorting their view of reality, yes, but, not racist conspiracies.
DeleteBut, hey, if you want to believe in that, that's your right and opinion.
Ok, not everyone is racist. Some calls were horrible though. But imagine. Thomas is what 5-8? and then you got Lin a 6-2 200 lbs guy. So every single move Thomas makes that looks like a foul they counted it. I mean in all reality, that last foul and the "charge" where two of the most horrible calls I have seen. I hope he gets a call from the commissioner for that FLOP!
DeleteKeep your head in the racist sand then, Roberlin.
DeleteYou've bought into the anti-Asian media bullshit that poisons our culture. Defending it is UNCONSCIONABLE.
That's MY right and opinion of racist conspiracy theories.
jp2123, the 4th foul call was when Francisco Garcia at 6'7" and 210 lbs drove the left baseline against Lin.
DeleteLin cut him off completely, surprising Garcia. Garcia executed a clumsy spin move to avoid falling out of the baseline and bricked the layup. Garcia didn't flop, but the referees were hellbent on knocking Lin out of the game and so they handed Garcia the phantom foul.
Khuang, you misunderstand me. I said I dont believe in racist CONSPIRACIES - i.e., people getting together and deliberately agreeing to do bad things to Lin.
DeleteI do believe in, however, organic racial biases and stereotypes that don't require conspiracies in order to do racist harm. If you think about it, the organic racism I'm talking about is even more insidious than what you seem to be talking about, because the racism occurs as if it has a life of its own.
But, whatever, you want to hang on to conspiracy theories and the KKK/Jim Crow type of racism, you go ahead.
okaaaayyyy, Roberlin.
DeletePeople HAVE gotten together and deliberately agreed to do bad things to Lin. Carmelo and gang in NY did that with their tanking bit and media hate. NBA scouts and analysts have all agreed that Lin is not an NBA caliber player. Those ARE racist conspiracies against Lin.
And NBA referees? They're known to be the most dishonest referees in pro sports. Judging from the consistent racial bias they've shown not just against Lin but statistically proven bias against black vs. white players, the NBA refs definitely fall under the CONSPIRACY category.
Your insidious racism is 100% true. But so are the conspiracies that unfold right before our eyes. I just happen to call them out as they take place, that's all. Nothing against you, really.
I think you need to look up the definition of conspiracy. For there to be a conspiracy among NBA scouts to say that Lin is not an NBA starter, they would have had to come together on a conference call, and agree to say that he is not a starter.
DeleteBtw, let's be clear, no one would say Lin is not an NBA caliber player. Every NBA scout and analyst would say he's an NBA caliber player. There's too much actual empirical data to say he belongs in the D-League. BUT - what they all say now is that he is not an NBA starter or an average starter at best.
????
DeleteHave you not forgotten all the anti-Lin BS fired at him in 2010 when he was not drafted?
When Lin was going off for 18 and 10 against the Pacers last year, a bunch of NBA scouts seated together at the game were saying in the media "Yup, he's not good enough to play in the NBA". That's actually better than a conference call because those scouts were discussing Lin amongst each other.
I don't know what NBA scouts are saying about Lin now, as they have been silent on the subject. But I know that the vast majority of them would have to EAT THEIR WORDS if they were asked about Lin's game now vs. then. I also wouldn't be surprised if many of them didn't think that Jeremy Lin is truly an NBA caliber player, actually.
The 6th call was absolutely confussing!
ReplyDeleteWtf!!! The ref took him out on purpose
@# 1 j~ There'll be graphics of that dunk prolly tomorrow, some you can print out.
ReplyDelete---
DUNKSANITY
Here's some good news guys. Houston fans are actually saying the refs cost the game by fouling Lin out. Folks are actually acknowledging we need Lin to win now!
ReplyDeletewow! that's awesome... LIN is wining them over... :>
DeleteThose folks are SLOW, then.
DeleteAnybody who's been watching Lin knows that he's been necessary to win since PRESEASON.
Either those folks are dumber than I thought for being slow to recognize Lin's OBVIOUS important, or they're more RACIST than I thought to deliberately try to ignore Lin's dramatic on court contributions. Notice how it's still awful no matter which way it's spun?
Ah well. Better some progress than no progress.
Yeah there were a lot of uproar on the phantom calls on Clutchfans.
DeleteThat Block and coast to coast dunk really fired everyone up.
And the blame fell squarely on the front court for getting out rebounded badly on defense, and well for their defense in general.
LOL, Lin fouling out may actually turn out to be the best thing for him and the team. Cuz, the team, led by bearden and beverly, looked absolutely lost and incompetent without Lin during crunch time.
DeleteOh, yes, they are dumb and, uh, racist in a loose sense of the word. :)
DeleteThe frontcourt was overmatched today, but they weren't the real reason the Rockets got outrebounded.
DeleteThe real reason is that Harden and Beverley got GREYHOUNDED by Salmons and Garcia and Thomas on screens. Since neither Harden nor Beverley bothered to help out on the boards because they were leaking out for fast break cherry picking, the Rockets got beat because Asik was all by himself rebounding against 3 or more Sacramento players.
I really hated the way Harden and Beverley played this game. If I were a coach, I'd be screaming at Harden threatening to make him a 6th man again until he starts at least PRETENDING to play defense. Beverley I would go easy on just because he doesn't have NBA ability and is fighting for a job despite his limited talent.
Roberlin,
DeleteFools like Mchale and Sampson never learned
Well install saw comments like he does not have the good lateral speed so he can not stay in front of his man BS
DeleteI didn't see any problem with the way McHale and Sampson used Lin in the game today.
DeleteNow McHale chewing out Lin for a blown shot at the end of the half that was a full on foul, THAT is BS. But that's one play.
alscd, what would you as coach have done differently in handling Lin today?
I give Harden a pass during the last few minutes tho.
DeleteHe looked like he was hurt from that fall...Didn't he hurt his wrist?
Now for the rest of the game...He was basically this:
Matador Defense
Wow! The 'look' of The Beard from behind.. That's just EPIC! 'gotta make that my wallpaper.. :>
ReplyDeleteIt's too bad that the block-steal-onemanfastbreak-dunk probably won't get much airplay because Houston lost the game. And because it wasn't Harden who did it.
ReplyDeleteJeremy Lin's dunk number 3 in top 10 tonight! :D That was incredible to witness. Sadly refs cost us the game. It was a must but can't wait for tuesday's rematch! :D
ReplyDeleteAnd its the block of the night.
DeleteLol so good.
AND THE STEAL!!! Why does everyone forget the steal?????
DeleteBLOCK STEAL onemancoasttocoastfastbreak and then DUNK, people!!
lol.
3 in 1 (block , steal , monster DUNK). sounds like my fave instant coffee... hmmmm... so goooood!!!
Deletehey @ jp , where's the link to the top 10 where Jlin's dunk made it to top 3?
Delete@jc~ Upthread, first 2 posts.
Deletethanks , ever dependable @via. :>
DeleteJust got back from the game. Was one row behind the bench, so I got pretty close to the action. BTW, watching the game so close was really fun. Definitely something to do if you ever have the chance.
ReplyDeleteFew thoughts, we lost the game due to some horrible calls. Don't know how you can call that 6th foul on Lin as well as the foul on 3 pointer on harden. That was 5 gimme points for Sacramento right there. It wasn't Dick Bavetta that made the call. Both calls were made by referee #44, whoever the dick is. Just don't know how u can make those calls in such a close game. But having said that, Jeremy shouldn't have been in that situation in the first place. Disappointed I didn't get to see him finish a close game.
Overall, I thought Jeremy played okay - somewhat average. Kind of inconsistent throughout, (really inconsistency sums up his season thus far). He had few good moments but too many times, I see him drive the lane just to stop and bring it out. It almost seems like he should just take it to the basket, During Lisanity I think he would've taken to the basket - perhaps it's coaching, perhaps he's worried about getting hurt. But too many times I think he just ends up "wasting" the move. He really knows how to blow by his perimeter defender.
That dunk was awesome though. I saw the bench stand up going crazy..didn't do much for the momentum as the next score was a sacramento 3.
One thing I noticed is the coaching staff talks to him A LOT during the game. Constantly. I don't know if he's getting berated or coached - but I don't think I've ever seen so much conversation for anyone during the game.
One weird thing I noticed was in the beginning of second half, there was short talk between McHale and Jeremy, followed by some short black dude in butterfly tie almost consoling Lin. Don't know what was said. But really, it looked like the guy was consoling him.
Beverly played well. He deserved the minutes he got. But when he came back in after Jeremy fouled out, he had no idea what he was supposed to do. He looked pretty ineffective as was the rest of the team. It just became Harden ISO ball with people around him just watching. Kinda pathetic.
Another disappointing play was Parsons. He had a miserable game. He just couldn't buy a shot. It's hard for the team to win when Parsons plays that badly.
Overall, tough loss for the team. Jeremy will need to prove himself again with Beverly on his back -if he wants to get more minutes. The striking thin for me to see was again Jeremy not being aggressive enough to take the ball to the rim. Really it was a subdued offensive game for him.
Good observations. On that last point, I don't think Lin needs to prove anything anymore. He was going to get 36 minutes tonight if he wouldn't have been in foul trouble. I thought the rotation was a lot better tonight. Glad you got to see Lin, must have been fun! :D
Deletesolidz, weird, most of us had opposite take on Lin's play watching on t.v.
DeleteAs for Beverly, there is absolutely nothing to prove. His play in the last three minutes was clear confirmation for anyone that Beverly is NOT a starting point guard, let alone better than Lin. Ask those idiots at Clutchfans, would they want Lin or Beverly in the last minutes of a close game after seeing what they saw tonight. They'd look like utter fools to choose Beverly.
I completely disagree about Patrick Beverley.
DeleteHe entered the game with a nice fat lead created by Lin's dominance. That lead was utterly lost with Beverley in the game getting exposed as a poor defensive player.
If the Rockets coaches are dumb enough to think that Patrick Beverley is a bona fide NBA point guard with bona fide NBA point guard reflexes, then they're going to experience lots more bona fide NBA losses especially if they're INSANE ENOUGH to cut Lin's minutes for Beverley to lose games with.
KHuang, to be fair. They didn't cut Lin's minutes at all tonight for Beverley. So at least tonight I saw a step forward. Better rotation, and Lin should have ended with 36 minutes. That foul trouble (refs) killed us.
DeleteBeverly is a good energy guy. And in spurts, he can play well and make some good plays. But, he's still a bench player, and someone who's not guaranteed to be in the NBA next year.
DeleteThanks for the report. jp2123 wrote a report after the game he went to (i think it was against the 76ers?) and mentioned that Lin got chewed out by the coaches (more so from Sampson than McHale) and was consoled by J. B. Bickerstaff. I think the guy that consoled Lin was J. B. Bickerstaff. There is definitely a pattern.
DeleteI never said that Lin's minutes were cut this game for Beverley.
DeleteIn fact, I don't see the Rockets cutting Lin's minutes for ANYBODY.
Lin often wins games by the 3rd quarter when the NBA refs aren't cheating him too much. Even Lin fans here sometimes mistakenly think that Lin is being prematurely pulled when in truth he's being pulled so that garbage time can begin!
Thanks for the update, was waiting for it.
DeleteHe didn't take it to the hoop often bc midget Thomas did a good job of staying in front of him, don't you think?
I was at the Denver game on 1/30 and the coaching staff didn't talk to Lin as much. Wish I knew what Mchale was saying to Lin tonight.
k.smith, did you watch the game or not?
DeleteJeremy Lin didn't have to take the ball to the hoop because he didn't have to.
The porous Sacramento defense allowed the Rockets to score at will when Lin was on the court. Scoring was not the problem, DEFENSE was.
Lin fought like a lion to cover up his teammates' bad defense. He nearly succeeded before the refs knocked him out.
Beverley did great against their 2nd team, but he is just no match against the first team.
DeleteI don't really fault him much for that, it isn't his job and well he couldn't handle the pressure.
Thanks for the report solidz, it was LOUD when he made the dunk, someone on Clutchfans said a ton of people wore Lin jerseys, did you see some of that?
I think Lin was doing what Lin does 1st half...Find people shots first, but he did do better attacking when it was obvious he caught defenders flat footed.
I bet that short talk was probably Lin getting berated for bricking the last shot of 2nd quarter...Even though he was fouled...
For once, Lin WASN'T being doubled or tripled.
DeleteSo Lin went out and played Mchale motion ball. He penetrated by his man, then found open guys for easy shots once the help sagged onto him.
If Lin got berated for the last shot, that's some BS from McHale about breaking McHale's motion scheme again.
No, honestly, as much I love Lin, I think we need to give credit when due. From the courtside, it looked like he did a lot of good things. He made some timely passes and did produce spark off the bench. That is not a knock on Lin but a compliment for Beverly. The dude is trying hard to get more minutes - you can't hate him for that. And I don't know how he looked on TV, but he did look good during the game except for the last 3 minutes. Perhaps this is why it seems like McHale leaves Lin's replacement for too long sometimes. I have to admit it looked funny when Beverly looked at Mchale whenever he thought he was coming in.
DeleteThe guy who looked like he was consoling him was not Bickerstaff. It was a guy I've never seen on TV before - Short, Black and roundish guy. He was in LIn's ear after McHale's talk with Lin - with his arms around him and saying stuff to his ear. It really looked like he was trying to cheer Jeremy up.
Having said that it didn't look like McHale was yelling at Lin. He does coach him A LOT though during the game. Sampson on the other hand looked like a buffoon - just sitting there looking stupid - definitely not a head coach material.
McHale is definitely intimidating in person. He likes to work to sidelines a lot.
I though Dick Bavetta called a good game. It was the other ref that was calling B.S. fouls
Another thing was we couldn't rebound for shit. Sacramento got a lot of offensive rebounds during the crucial juncture of the game - no one was boxing out. So frustrating. That and parson's
DeleteThanks for this, Solidz75 ... it's nice to read a man on the street report.
Delete@KHuang I did see them try and trap lin a couple times to the right like they were doing with Harden to the left in the beginning...But was kind of surprised someone would come and bail him out. For some reason they abandoned that.
DeleteOnly good thing this game I can say is Lin saw some minutes without Harden and the block/dunk :D
A lot of Asian fans. it was some asian promotion night - this was why Lin was introduced last (after Harden) to really loud cheers.
DeleteWithout a doubt, Lin brings in a lot of asian fans. This is why NBA needs to make sure he suceeds and gets the calls he should get. You can't deny his popularity - he brings in a new demographics to the games. It is in their best interest for him to succeed.
I don't know how you can fault LIn for the last shot in the second quarter. HE was clearly fouled - but no calls. This really has to change. Freaking ridiculous.
@Solidz~ Harden had a run-in with Bavetta during the game.
DeleteShort black dude in butterfly tie?
Khuang, of course I watched the game. I agree with some of your points but I just didn't see exactly what you saw tonight.
DeleteSolidz75, god I wish we knew what Mchale said to Lin. I'm assuming Lin was fine afterwards?
@K. Smith. I thought he went by Thomas a lot. He really has no issue getting into the paint. It's when he gets there when it looks like he could just take it to the hoop - he sees a big man and just backs out. It looks so doable from the courtside - but I just saw it happening too much during the game.
DeleteOne thing I did notice before LIn got fouled out was Thomas complaining to the ref that jeremy was fouling him. Maybe he just got a home town discount - but still a b.s call nonetheless.
I think what McHale said to LIn throughout the night was not necessarily negative - it just looked like he was getting coached like a rookie (I've never seen so much coaching like this).
DeleteThe thing that was intersting was that talk prior to the 2nd half - I actually have a clip of it. He looks really pissed - looking at it again now - almost like NOW WHAT.
How do I post clips from my iphone to this site. You guys can see it and make your own judgement.
Thanks for the great sideline reporting, @solidz!
DeleteThree questions:
1. Did you notice Lin tried to do something different everytime after McHale talked to him? Was he more aggressive or did he try to give ball to Harden or 3PT shooter? Or did he try to help more on defense?
2. How was his body language throughout the game? Was he comfortable running the offense or he had a short leash on what he's supposed to do?
3. Did you see the coaches talk to Harden after his bad defense? i.e. not blocking his man for the dunk
Yeah, a lot more than 3 questions but you get the idea :D
Oh and thanks for the 1st-hand info, @Solidz :)
Deleteman, we just need to have a lip-reader to decipher what McHale said to Lin.
DeleteMaybe we should ask Lin fans to zoom in to video McHale talk to Lin every game :) That would make a great documentary, then send it to Les!
1. Not sure - wasn't paying too much attention to how he was playing after the talk. It just looked like Jeremy was aggressive in just spurts throughout the game. Honestly, I felt like Jeremy was holding things back on offense - this may be my biased view.
Delete2. Jeremy didn't look like he was having that much fun - compared to say, the Utah game or the GSW game. Just kinda expressionless. At times, deflated.
3. Harden rarely ever pays attention to Mchale. Its funny because he looks at somewhere else during timeouts. I think Harden knows he is untouchable.
no problem, k.smith.
DeleteYou know that I usually agree with you more than I disagree.
I still think Lin had Thomas handcuffed, at least until after Lin dunked on the refs.
How do I post the "controversial" iphone clip to this website. I think you guys will enjoy it.
Delete@Via, Harden didn't really have a run in. It was more like Harden was yelling 3 seconds, which was the right call. Bavetta made that call but "berated" Harden for being so loud. Harden was laughing his ass off. It's not like he got a technical.
Deletethanks, @solidz. Yeah, perhaps his frustraton is due to his limited PG role to find 3PT shooters or Harden and be occasional 3PT shooters.
DeleteIt really handcuffed Lin's strength and creativity as a playmaker.
Plus KHuang's assertion of McHale's preference for motion offense not to let the PG dribble the ball for too long.
I don't think you can post the iphone clip to this blog but you can post it to youtube if you have gmail account, or any site that let you upload videos for public to download.
DeleteI don't know if you can post video clips on here...
DeleteMaybe Lin's dunk was a big Fuck You to Mchale...
Earlier I said that it looked like Lin was holding back on offense too.
Psalm I think you are right. Llooking at Jeremy;s reaction to Mchale's talk before the second half again, I really don't think Jeremy is playing the way he wants to. Being the team player he is, he is trying to fit in. But I don;t know if this is the right way to use lin.
DeleteThanks for clearing that up, @Solidz. The tweet made it sound like there was a thing [and Harden was shocked by the whole thing.]
DeleteKeith Jones, the trainer?
DeleteSolidz75,
DeleteI can't see Lin staying with the Rockets for the entire duration of his contract. He and his team will request a trade. Lin is super competitive and I just can't see him okay with being oppressed by the coaches.
Adam Turner @BardCoachTurner
ReplyDeleteOther than Steve Nash I am taking J Lin as the second best passer in NBA when it comes to different angles an always on time on target
7:35 PM - 10 Feb 13
Now, these kinds of tweets are awesome!
DeleteWho is Adam Turner, btw?
holy cow, that's nice of him to say. Hope this guy knows basketball.
DeleteAdam Turner - Head Men's Basketball Coach, Bard College
Deletewow! he's a coach. he should know what he's saying...
DeleteI love it!
DeleteOnly problem is:
If only they have more street cred
Bard College? I thought that was an all woman's college?
DeleteCoed? There have Men's and Women's Athletics Dept.
Delete*They have
DeleteHey, Jeremy this season got
ReplyDeleteThe assist of the night
The block of the night
The steal of the night
The play of the night
So, one more dunk of the night pls!!!!!l LOL!!
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ReplyDeleteHey guys: Nice post game discussion. I caught the last 2:17 or so from being out doing the Chinese NY thing. Torocan is trying to keep CF sane, but there are some sensitive peops over there today. Gonna read some more and then watch the game on LP.
ReplyDeleteJust to note, I loved Kenoshi and KHuang's bit about "Dunk on Smart, get kicked out of Sac." That was pretty cool, consider Lin has held back on dunks this year. And, without your conversations, it's hard to catch that moment just right. I'm forwarding the youtube to my buds with that subject line :-) Thanks, guys.
I can't wait for Tues! Too bad my camera lense is 3.25" (limit is 3"). Should I try to get it in?
Oh, and of course Roberlin's "Block, Steal, Coast-to-Coast, aaand a Dunk!"
DeleteTorocan's awesome but he can only do so much. Too much ignorance there.
DeleteThe Steal was stolen from Lin. Lin's given only one Steal tonight.
DeleteLiv ... we can give it to him :-)
DeleteYeah, we can. lol.
DeleteBut, I wonder what the rule is regarding blocked shots that leads to a turnover - whether the person that comes up with the ball after the block is credited with a steal.
When one player knocks the ball out of the opposing player's hands, but, his teammate picks up the ball, who gets credited with the steal, the one who knocked it out, or the one who ended up with the ball?
One of Lin's steal was credited to Parson because Parson picked up the ball.
Deletealcsd, then that means the one steal was the one that came off his blocked shot. Did he have any other steals?
DeleteI'm not sure if this was posted but finally someone is calling out mchell on his rotations with lin. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1524348-jeremy-lins-inconsistent-fourth-quarter-minutes-continue-to-stunt-development
ReplyDeleteI like Ogden, he tends to write more balanced articles than blatant lies/misinformation about Lin.
DeleteHe points out the bad and the good.
I know it's bleacher report but I completely agree with this: "Until his minutes hit a more consistent level, Lin will continue to come up short of reaching his potential."
DeleteNo Shit! Look at fucking Parsons! Why doesn't Lin or even Patterson get the same opportunities?
The dude must have read our posts on this thread, lol. It's sad when we're happy when the "experts" finally point out something that's clearly obvious.
DeleteNow, though, here's where I become conspiracy theorist and suggest that it may not be incompetence, but, because Morey and McHale have agreed that Lin is not in the Rocket's future plans because they think he's an okay player, but dispensable now that they have Harden.
So, screw Lin's development, if McHale thinks he needs to be benched in order to win the game.
I still think a trade this year is a possibility, if they can get the power-forward they want in a trade involving Lin.
Roberlin,
DeletePlus it clearly Lin and McHale are not fond of each (lets us put it in mildly term), it becomes toxic and someone has to go. But I don't think they will trade Lin by this Feb 21. I think it will be next year.
A few smart coaches (Carisle-he has to game plan against Lin) and George Karl-Lin is the motor of the team) will ask for Lin because they know his value.
Ironically it's because of Lin the Rockets are are having a decent record and yet the coaches don't even value him.
I got a feeling Les would veto Lin trade this year and if McHale failed to reach the playoff by insisting Harden to be the main PG and underutilized Lin, he will be let go at some point.
DeleteUnfortunately, the earliest could be the 2nd year because of his daughter's passing a few months ago.
go to http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/jeremy-lin, you can see quite some pics / vids of Lin's dunk.
ReplyDeleteMCHALE POST GAME VS KINGS
ReplyDeleteAdam Turner @BardCoachTurner
ReplyDeleteIf you put two guys that love sharing the ball together on the floor it is real fun to watch and you overachieve- #linandparsons
well I want to requote his tweet - If you put a PG that loves sharing the ball together on the floor it is real fun to watch and you overachieve