JLIN HIGHLIGHTS VS CLIPPERS - 2/13/13[footwearfoot]
1:28 No foul? Am I watching hockey?
wilc, it's so frustrating.
Lin 2 points and no free throws in the second half. Hammered all night. And gets an earful of hate. Surprised he's not shell shocked. Strong kid.
Look at the vid below. He looks so flustered. look at how much KJ is consoling him. I am sick of McHale.
When the hell will Finch be taking over?!
LOL is that your voice? "I got you on tape, McHail."
Finch...oh another "yes" man hand selected by Morey.
You're ENJOYING watchig Lin get hit, Etane. You love seeing Asians get abused.
Come on KHuang...Etane is saying Jeremy is a man, the Die Hard John McClane type without the expletives. Or in another words, a throwback to the 80s and 90s superstars--the mental and physical toughness part without the jawboning, diva acts
You don't know Etane, Pierrot. For months, he's been trashing Lin and his fans. Etane LOVES IT when Asians get bashed by nonAsians. Over time Pierrot, you will see this with your own eyes.
http://www.telly.com/2PZ93WLooks at how McHale yell at Lin, and his reaction.
you guys tell me what LIn did in the first half of Sac game to deserve what is clearly a rebuke from McHale. Because he took the last shot when he was clearly fouled? You don't need to hear what was said. In the context of what has been happening all season, and the public admonishment of LIn on National TV tonight and how much KJ is consoling Lin after this talk... it's clear to me McHale has an agenda against him. This is B.S! It's one thing to coach a player but another to single a player out constantly. What do you think will happen? You think you will ever see LIn go off again?
Oh..wow! this video is truly heartbreaking. Never seen a coach (ever) tried so hard to break his own player... But this just proves Lin's mental, emotional, and spiritual strength. I may not be able to help him in the literal sense but i commit to pray and forever support a truly admirable kid like Jeremy! God bless!
thanks for sharing! wow! who's the guy talking to jlin? he looks like he's trying to encourage jlin and try to gave him some good words after get yelled or something from mchale!
@balintuna, I feel like lin really pissed in this video and don't even want to communicate with mchale. he also looks kinda depress in this video. hope my feeling is wrong though.
well spread the vid link around.. Let all LIn's fans see what he is going thru. Remember this was jsut 2 nights ago. And then that public rebuke tonight on national TV. I wasn't even going to post this vid but after McHale went off on lin when he was the only one playing well, when everyone else was making mistakes was the last straw. No one notices it except for us.
No way to treat a player or anybody else..If I am the management he should be fired...
@lydia .. no - he was clearly affected by it cause he wasn't smiling after this. In retrospect this is why he fouled out because he lost his concentration. After all the accolades in NY last season, this must feel like the exact opposite. I couldn't imagine what goes on behind the doors.
Thanks for the video, Solidz75, I didn't know it was yours. To be honest, I never really blame McHale before with his rotation. I always thought he has his own reason, and he get strict with Lin probably because he himself was a PG and only know how to coach a PG (from his own experience).But after seeing this video, I can see the truth. He really doesn't like Lin at all.
I was not able to watch the video. do I need a tally account to watch it?
that guy is ATHLETIC TRAINERKeith Jones!
@lydia yes he looks like he was about to cry or something... breaks my heart. I mean since day 1 Jeremy had to always face the same thing (disrespect, among others) over and over... good thing this kid is really tough! Don't mean to offend or anything but McHale is hailed by most as an exemplary father, but i guess he is good at compartmentalizing because it doesn't transcends to his coaching :(
Just wondering KHuang's take on this.
Morey will have his minions do some damage control after this.
You mean Kevin McHuang?
Poor guy. time to write my cussing email to Morey!
Its amazing how JLin manages to continue buying in to such a coach.
I'm spreading this to my Twitter and Tumblr accounts!
John Lee, I think I'm the wrong guy to be asked for this. I've been screamed at all my life, physically attacked for the first half of my life. Now that I'm in my 2nd stage, I usually end up screaming or fighting back. I am not in Lin's or McHale's shoes. I have no opinion good or bad on the matter.
You guys take it for what it is. Granted we are not privy their conversation and the clip starts late. But to describe what was going on... there was Lin, Mchale and KJ together right before the beginning of the second half. McHale wasn't yelling but clearly the conversation wasn't constructive by the way Lin was reacting afterwards with KJ trying his best to console him. There is another pic I have just after KJ left, where LIn has his head down on the scorers table, looking like he is trying to stretch. But I honestly think he was praying.
What's on your mind, Etane?Wanna piece of me again?
IsabeliJane,Save you strokes and email it to Les' office and New York media instead. Morey will delete it in a NY minute.
he looks.. disheartened to me,@KHuang.
Why would I want a piece of your no opinion ass, Kevin McHuang? HHAHA Waste of time.
Psychopath racist troll Etane, you are just here to hate on Lin and his fans. You really are a sick deranged EVIL person. Let's keep fighting, since you can't stip instigating hate here.
This Etane monster just has to flame Lin and his fans here. He can't just watch the game. He HAS to hate on people, especially the Asians that he keeps slandering with racial epithets. When you see Lin being bashed, think of Etane attacking Asians here. He LOVES it when Lin gets hit and abused.
@alc, sure then. will do my research on finding out how to contact Les.imho, Jeremy took the conversation AND GOT DISHARTEANED.whatever McHale said, it got to him it's not good, in any way. if it was good, there's no need to console him. since the team doctor is consoling him, it may be something destructive. TOO DESTRUCTIVE,imho. I don't think Jeremy is the soft, wishy-washy,emotional type... but he just looks disheartened.
come on now, Jlin is strong. Those who say he is about to cry--um, heck no, Jlin's visage is always stoic and calm, game face type of mentality.All that consoling is actually just for show--which I could do less with in that regards because it paints an image that Jeremy is some softie who never faced a harsh environment. That Keith Jones means well, but I hope that video DOES NOT SPREAD--it only paints the poor Asian boy needing help. Um, JEREMY DOES NOT NEED THAT KIND OF HELP--casual fans might mistake something that isn't Jeremy. It only emasculates him. Please, people, stop with this victim mentality!If the "coaching" staff really wants to "console" Jlin, how about harping on the referees for the ticky tack fouls. Or extend the rope longer for Jlin's minutes. That is more substance, not arms around shoulder show.Yao Ming always said "Jeremy is water strength."So Khuang, yes, he isn't fire strength like you kicking screaming which is not to say fire is pejorative. But water strength plays much better as a trailblazer and for his image.Water strength is using his energy when he messes up on the court and comes back at the player who scored on him/picked off his passes/that sort of thing.Water strength is not crying/lashing out/wasting energy/need consoling type.
*meant GOT DISHEARTENED
I'm all for berating someone when they royally screw up.Briking a closing shot isn't one of them.His body language and blank expression says it all. Whatever McHale said clearly affected him, from what I can see its either he felt unappreciated, or simply hurt.Constant mental lashing can do its damage. Its one thing being tough, its another thing singling someone out. Lin will either grow a flame retardant skin (like myself, and probably KHuang), or go into a depression.I hope Lin is the former, from what we observed he definitely seems the former.No wonder Lin just didn't seem all that motivated for the rest of the game.
I do appreciate how Lin took all this garbage and just kept on playing. I don't really play team sports, Pierrot, so my reactions are different from Lin's. I won't judge Lin other than to say that I also admire his strength. This game I didn't get to see, but Lin looked great in the highlights. Too bad Etane had to hijack this thread and turn it into another one of his flame wars.
If you want to see strength in action, watch me beat back this Etane troll. He absolutely LOVES to flame Asians, and he loves seeing Lin get yelled at and hit. He also loves to flame me because of my Asian screenname. Watch as I repeatedly call him out on his psychopathic troll behavior. He keeps attacking, and I keep retaliating. The way I fight back at Etane is how Asians should fight back against racism.
IsabeliJane,If you can find a way to burn what Solidz75 posted into a disk, then it's easy to send it to Les' office (hoping that Morey doesn't intercept and toss it out).
I cant see the vid :( Lin does not deserve this crap
If you think that Lin doesn't cry than you are wrong. It doesn't mean he is a cry baby, but everyone can get OVERWHELMED in a certain situation. He has shared before that even after the nets game he cried in the locker room. Some things are overwhelming and I'm pretty sure he is in an overwhelming situation. I'm not saying he was going to cry in the video, I really doubt it. But, this situation can be really overwhelming to him.
At least we might get SOME insight on why JLin seem hand-tied at times. He's indeed on a very short leash. And @Solidz is not the only fan to have seen this "special" treatment of JLin, @redking and @psu have too.
This game was terrible KHuang. It wasn't the CP3 vs Lin showdown. It was McHale's terrible multi-PG system vs itself.Lin was shuffling into the corner a lot. What got me was Morris laughing about it with another clipper after Hollins kicked Lin in the chest while Lin was down for stopping him earlier, RIGHT in front of the refs. No one on Rox backed Lin up. Did anyone even come to help him up?I don't know if you guys saw but Clippers starters just didn't play all that hard after the kick...The flashy dunks and alley-oops all but died out, I think some of them really didn't approve.
They all away games, does Lin got mentally abuse at home too? Someone in Houston or lives close to Houston, please go and report back to us.
crying after Nets game was because he probably doubted his faith in God and was happy in validation. You are conflating an act, possibly crying, into two different contexts.nobody here isn't saying Lin doesn't cry--he probably cries like any normal human being--if he marries and has a child, if he wins a championship, etc etc. What I'm saying is he isn't crying in the video. You are also attempting to see Lin's situation through your prism:|I'm pretty sure he is in an overwhelming situation|No one except himself knows what an overwhelming situation is.
Morris is very fortunate it's Lin in the locker room and not me.Right now, there would be a big screaming argument in the locker room for him laughing at Hollins kicking me. It's just like Etane flaming me here. Do I let his punk ass try to use me as a punching bag to flame Asians? HECK NO. I fight him right back and just keep going at him.
where are you @Stu? hope you got to see this too!
Ahh never mind Parsons was there right away to see if Lin was ok, so was Asik.But that cheap shot by Odom then the kick by Hollins...Yep KHuang I'd have more than words with Morris after that.
Thanks for the vid solidz75! I hate Lamar, Hollins, Mchale, damnit, everybody.
???@Solidz's VID - SAC GAME DURING HTMCHALE CHEWING OUT JLIN?psu February 13, 2013 at 8:45 PMI'm watching Mchale lecture Lin after every whistle. I think he just doesn't believe in Jeremy. Sadredking February 13, 2013 at 9:14 PMI'm waiting too. I saw something similar at the 76ers game last month.
LAST PIC from above link
watch the above video. really bad here, via. now, I definitely believe there's a problem between lin and mchale!
As there was with Lowry and Dragic. Coincidence?
Note several people saw JLin getting "special" treatment on multiple occasions. Not an isolated incident.
HOLLINS' KICK ON JLIN
What is hard to rationalize is why none of the coaching staff gets up and defend Jeremy? Get a technical for goodness sakes.Instead, we get whipping boy LinActions speak louder than words.
Wow! (again) Jeremy is being murdered physically, emotionally, mentally... poor kid couldn't get a break from anyone! But he is TOUGH!!! Hope he is ok, read on twitter that his wrist is still swollen :(
It's ridiculous. Have the coaches defended any of the other players?
Stu below had a good observationI concur with him after rewatching the video--Jeremy going full speed on the fast break and Odom's foul could have been more dangerous to Jeremy since it was knees--the backbone of an athlete.
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Well...Rockets basically reverted back to McHale's multi-PG system. They are too reliant on Harden as the main scorer, and this is the result.I don't know why they keep reverting back to this...travesty. Its like the team does well when they have Lin play PG, then they revert back to this trash. Then they let Lin have the ball for a couple games, get some wins, then revert back to this garbage system.Lin played PG for all of a few minutes 1Q, then he was moved to the 2 because Delfino was stinking it up. Beverley and Anderson took turns playing the one, so did Parsons at times.Playing Mook at any position today was a huge mistake. Not only was he 4-11, he was terrible on defense and a fouling machine.McHale decides that people needs to double up on Griffin or Jordan so whoever is playing 2/3 needs to leave their man and play help defense. If DMo was starting this wouldn't have been a problem. But it keeps leaving clippers shooting lights out on the perimeter.Lin went back into the corner for majority of the game and didn't touch the ball all that much, except to bring it up and drop it off.Our big men (Asik/Aldritch, did Morris even set a pick for Lin?) are REALLY bad pick setters. Only person that is decent is DMo who has been on the bench until today. There was a spark in 4th, all but killed by McHale rotating Lin out then back in.McHale or rather Houston coaching is completely lost if Harden is not playing.BAD BAD choice of starters and even worse rotation. Even Clutchfans are hating McHale, no one is actually talking bad about Lin, except for a few long time haters that got put in their place by other long time posters who actually watched the game. I would personally have started:Asik - C, Ugh, give me Smith!!!DMo - PF, Patterson as backupLin - PG, Anderson as backupBeverley - SG, Delfino as backupParsons - SF, Morris as backupThis loss is entirely on McHale.
Nice post, thanks all for being here. I'm going to work on some spreadsheets to forget the bad coaching. Good on y'er, mate, to Solidz for tweeting and posting the vid. Not a happy locker room.I just don't get it - they get paid millions, their $80m player is hurt, and there is no game plan for a known tough game. Then you make excuses ... I mean, that amount of money changes lives in many parts of the world. Oh well, Rox is not my responsibility. Just hope JLin isn't beat up too badly.
Now we know why they recruited Beverley...Because they needed more guards for McHale's multi PG system.McHale...Well I am guessing he is too proud to admit his system doesn't work well with this team. But he tries to sneak it in time after time.After watching this game I have no idea why Sampson still have a job as defensive coordinator.
I was able to stay awake and watch this game. McHale was in Lin's face after one of the play and he has that disgusted face look during the game. I am sure he was wishing Harden was in there instead of Lin. Yes, I too saw that Lin was running to the corner and not facilitating. His jumper was off tonight, but his teammates really did a bad job of setting picks for him and moving around the court. It was one of those games that Clippers were hitting almost everything from the outside and Houston was not. Clippers were getting a bunch of BS star treatment foul calls and Lin was not getting the calls when he was driving in and getting hit. I believed he came up hobbling and shaken on a couple of occasion. That kick by the Clippers player was just dirty. I am surprised he didn't get ejected for that. It's evident that McHale and the coaching staff does not have Lin's back because nobody was screaming and checking to see Lin was okay besides Parsons after that foul and kick. Things I noticed about the game: 1) None of our PF's were going inside strong and resort to shooting from outside, especially Marcus Morris. 2)Delfino and several other players were playing the point instead of Lin. 3) McHale was determine not to give Lin the ball to have him make plays. 4) Parsons have some good moments but he also have some bad ones as well. 5)Lin's body language seem to indicate he wasn't too happy playing in this game and it shows. He wasn't as motivated. 6)Patrick Beverly for all his flashiness did not play a great game. 7) Delfino did not play a good game either. 8) Asik did not have a good game. 9) Anderson was playing solid. From this game I believe the Rockets cannot compete with the top teams such as the Clippers, OKC, Miami, Denver, etc. because they do not have the personnel who can defend and play inside ball. Our PFs are too soft and resort to shooting from the outside instead of driving and posting up people. You can see evident that Clippers were more athletics because Jordan, Griffen and couple of other players were playing above the rim. Houston got so scared of the lobs that they were leaving people open on the perimeter. It doesn't look positive for Houston if they have to contend with these teams in the playoffs.
Less noise~JLIN ORACLE ARENA Q&A - 2/12/13[taiwaneseamericanorg]
@ ORACLE ARENA WITH FAM AND COACH DIEPENBROCK.
:) We need a little bit of joy in the midst of this despair. JLin continues to play the game he loves. McHale too shall pass.
I love Law Bu (hope I got this right)/Mama Lin's taste in bags - Prada. I'm a Versace fan though.
ouch, Lin's got very sexy belly button :)
Thanks. Is that his former agent, Roger Montgomery, in the background with Coach Diepenbrock?
I'd love to see some guesswork on the 27 second sub out for Lin.
I probably don't watch enough NBA games; but Lin has been hit hard this game, at least 3 that is clear hard foul. I haven't seen any other players get fouled that badly on games that I have seen, well, not as many and hard fouls as Lin's.This is really weird? It is like no one like him?I guess People just get pissed off because of the Linsanity.He needs to tune it down a bit, so people will not hate him that much :P
Tune what down, and how? He's already the Batgirl of the team!
Boon, on that kick play, if you watch the replay from CF that @via posted, Lin just made a stop on Hollins, and he was getting revenge. It wasn't anything longer in terms of dislike.
McHale is already doing a fine job tuning him down.
revenge by kicking? Dude.......that's uncalled for.What I mean is, people probably should tune down the Linsanity thingy, so that he get to be in peace and get to do his thing.You know how it is, once you are so famous and everyone like you, there're haters out there to get you ;)
Nice game by Anderson and DMo
Jonathan Feigen @Jonathan_Feigen Lin getting x-rays on his right hand. It's a precaution, but still sore after hard fall on drive in first half.Hope Lin is okay...
Yikes. This can be disastrous. It's his shooting hand as well. I hope its nothing too serious.
wow this night couldn't get worse for LIn.
Is rockets thinkingto trade Lin?
Go ahead Rockets, trade Lin. See if they can win more without him.
I guess that depends on what PG they can get
Won't they want to showcase him before trading him?I want to see JLin develop with Harden, Parsons, Asik, and company. The back court duo is one of the best in the league if not the best. The core is showing more chemistry. It is only their first year together.But if they do trade him, it would be nice if it's a team on the east coast so that the time difference isn't so bad. :p
They should. McHale is a terrible coach, with bad decision making and bias towards Lin.
I have a question. During the game tonight, Mchale cussed out Lin at the timeout? Really? Why?
Probably Lin was going for a home run, but his teammate wasn't able to catch the ball so they lost the possession.
I heard the Clippers announcer say Mchale was really angry and was in Jeremy's face. He also said Jeremy's a real piece of work for fouling CP with 3 sec. remaining in the first half. Maybe that's why he was being yelled at?? Whatever. F. them both (the announcer and Mchale).
Yes he did.It is sad to see how he comes down so harshly on Lin for the little mistakes that he does. Moreover, how he overlooks his hardwork.I remember during their first game vs GS, Lin did absolutely amazing. The reports asked McHale, post game, about Lin's performance. McHale over looked the question and just started saying how the team was very aggressive etc etc chucking 3's. =\ horrible coach
Hey guys! New here well kind of. I've been reading for awhile, just never got around making a cmnt or anything, but heres my first, dont eat me alive? Jk. Ugh Im stilll pretty frustrated abt the game and idk y. I have to say i absolutely hate how McHale rotates Lin in and out of games, i feel like he purposely does it? Lin was hot first and after thay he went cold. Made 9 the first quarter and 14 the whole game. I honestly felt that he couldve gotten more points if he had stop passing to his teammates who bricks the shot. But then 2nite his shots werent falling either. And sadlh their 3s werent either. But then in the 4th when the lead was 11, i thought thag they couldve stolen this game but guess not. And Lin tonight i felt like Lin started to play like how he used to in the first half of the season, camping in the corner, i mean why is Bev bringing the ball up and him in the corner? Ugh just frustrating, 2nite they needed him and he just didnt show up. But im going to say, he got a lot of ugly hits tonight so it might've slowed him down, he was limping a few times. But w.e the game is lost. Everyone i guess played ok tonight, it was the Clippers abd back to back game, but w.e. also the thing abt this team is that everyone can be a point guard, this is probably the reason for sky high TO's. I guess so, but with this, i dont see them going far yet until everyone on the team knows their role, everyone is everywhere and opppnets are left open or mismatched, golly Rox need to establish the idea of whos playing what and what not. Oh and to add to the game, i felt that Lin was a bit all over the place, he wasnt really defending his man, most times his person got open shots b cuz no defender. I think Lin is overworking himself, his teammates dont even attempt to do what hes doing! But jesus this team needs to play defense like bad b cuz against Elite teams like the Clippers, OKC, Spurs they dont stand a chance. I just wish everyone knew their roles on this team better so things flow more smoothly.
MXMoua,just a nice piece of advice, could you break your long long paragraph into 3 or 4 or maybe 5. It's really hard to read.
Lin hurt his wrist during first half, which explains why he was briking shots and missing layups.Lin wasn't "all over the place". It seems like it if you don't realize they were ordered to double any of Clipper's forwards (Griffin and Jordan), taking a gamble on the perimeter...Lin wasn't the only person giving up perimeter, as he and others were forced to play off their man and well inevitably that man will either cut behind Lin or Lin would be too far away to contest anything. Problem is Clippers can shoot, this was a terrible strategy. They should have played DMo + Asik together...And fire Sampson, he is a terrible defensive coordinator.Welcome btw.
Lin is physically and mentally tough. Nothing will tear him down, in the end he will have the last laugh. One thing i remember from his story is that this dude always rise above adversity, pain is is just a process of growth for him. The more painful it is, the better he will become. Believe!!
Absolutely right, 777am. Lin is hardly the first Asian to stand strong in the face of overwhelming racism and WIN. His statline from the game was excellent. He played solid defense. He made plays. He kept his cool. That's what a CHAMPION does. Asian Americans stand strong and proud against adversity. Let's show Lin our support!
Yeah, stat line looks great. If he had not hurt his wrist he was looking at a 25+ or 30 point game. Lin continues to fight racism, stereotypes, everything. I am very proud for what he stands for.Great to see such a great person succeed and continue to overcome obstacles. I keep saying that hardly any of the players will be remembered in 50 years, but Jeremy Lin definitely will be.
agree with you both!
Ok. I went to the game tonight. This is what I saw. I sat really close to the court, approx 50 feet from the basket on the Clippers side.Lin hitting approximately 2/3 of his 3 point shots during practice. He was nailing certain spots and missing others. He is really much much faster in real life. He was easily getting to the basket before he was the first player removed in the 1st which was ridiculous because he was scoring well.Lin is fearless. He gets sprinter speed going to the basket but he was fouled hard several times. I wasn't able to see Hollins cheap shot because the basket was in the way. However, Odom put a cheap shot on Lin and nearly buckled his knee (much like a football play where guy gets an ACL tear) before the flagrant.Lin got to the basket easily but could not finish. He was holding his hand the entire time after it got injured. Kept holding it but it really did not affect his shot during warmups.Fortunately or unfortunately I was not near that moron McHale. With the exception of the early 1st quarter pull, I think the minutes were ok. I can see that he is enamored with Beverly.I still say that I wish Lin had other offers because you should never go back to a bully who cut you the first time. They still have the same opinion of you.In the end, I think my opinion of Lin is that he is even more amazing. He is truly fearless when he drives to the rim. If all people had that fearlessness in whatever they do, they would succeed beyond belief.
Thanks for the game insight, Stu. You observed players bounty hunting Lin. It's been going on all of Lin's career. I just hope that Lin's hand isn't too severely damaged by the Clippers' bounty hunting.
Lin also hugged Hollins after the game. I am guessing Lin does this because he does not want to fight violence with violence or racism with racism. He is truly an enlightened man, who is really able to rise above everything.I for one probably woulda taken out his ACL in return.
interesting observation Stu--Based on your eyewitness account, Odom probably had the more malicious intent because Jeremy was going full speed--and knees are everything to an athlete.Hollins kick was toward his chest, abs, so hurtful but probably not career ending if the kick was stronger.
oh here you are. waiting for your insider report.thanks @Stu! with that video of Jeremy looking disheartened after that talk with McHale... makes me feel bad. can't wait for October 2013. I wanna see how McHale treats Jeremy in person
Stu did you stayed after the game? did u saw his "rumored gf" Arden Cho was at the game? she was tweeting about it. any interaction b/w the two?he hugged Hollins?? SMH
Wow...By being the bigger man I think he'll slowly win over players. Hollins probably feels guilty about it now, I would hope anyway.Classy JLin, very classy!
Arden Cho isn't Jeremy's girlfriend. It's widely known she only dates White guys.
Thank @Stu, for letting us know [esp the last part.] :)
So Arden Cho really isn't his gf?I can hear the collective sighs of relief from all of Lin's female fans.
ABC Baller how do u know she dates white guys?
I didn't see Arden. I was sitting closer to the Clips side unfortunately. It was probably close to 50% Asian in the arena tonight and Lin got a very loud ovation from the fans. This one group of girls behind me kept yelling Jeremy, one in particular in a very high pitch which I found really funny.I have lost all respect for Odom. He seemed like a good buy but no more. Yes, Lin makes friends with his enemies. He is really a great person...I wish he and Jackie Robinson could have sat together and talked - two of the greatest sportsmen the world has ever known.As someone pointed out, I also did notice that Lin walked right by McHale when he was going ballistic. Honestly, this was much easier to watch in person than on TV where I can see all the Lin hate from McHale. Some of Lin's drives to the hoop were truly amazing...his top speed and his accelerations to the hoop were better and faster than any player on the court...and it wasn't even close. I guess this is why we all love Lin and fans across the world love him...he's like a pitcher that has a 103mph fastball. Pure, raw speed.Hollins is totally lame. Lamar is worse perhaps. Both cheap shots. Plus there was also a time when Barnes held Lin and fouled him after a Lin block or steal.
Thanks for the observations. It really sounded like the Clippers were out to get JLin this game.
Or is it that NBA players are just not used to a guy as fast as JLin who can change direction so quickly, resulting in spectacular crashes, especially on drives?
Stu,As someone pointed out, I also did notice that Lin walked right by McHale when he was going ballistic. Are you implying that Lin tuned him out. Meaning Lin just walked away while he was screaming/yelling? I know that last season with the lockout, a lot of players came into camp out of shape, I think McHale had a shouting match with Lowry. I heard he also grabbed and dragged one of the players during a timeout. It wasw one of last year's game and fans were horrible, but unfortunately I don't know who. It could be Lowry. I must have missed it that Morris was laughing after Lin got hit by Hollis, did Morris really laugh at the incident?
thank you stu!
I saw the Clippers players trip and bump Jeremy all game long. They were clearly trying to hurt him and they were successful. I hope Karma truly works and they get what they deserve. Get well, Jeremy!
cali7,McHale had an interesting expression on his face, I can't seem to find the words for it, but McHale kinda threw his hands up. Maybe Lin has been tuning him out and he knows it. I know that when I tune someone out, I usually just walk away or just stare at him/her without saying a word. Maybe he is punishing Lin by not only cutting his minutes, but tampering with Lin's stats and development. Maybe this explains why he only brings Lin in at the 6 minutes mark (or sometimes 4 minutes mark) when the game is usually already decided.
Despite the fact that I don't like Melo, but during one of the few games they played together under Woodson. Melo elbowed one of the players that intentionally hurt Lin.
Melodrama sucked, but I don't think he ever harbored ill feelings towards Lin. He vouched for Lin in the first place.Melo wasn't going to take a backseat, but it doesn't mean he wouldn't buy into the program at some point.Which he did this year.The issue was more Melo playing with Amare. But it looks like Amare is coming off the bench now anyway.
JLin and Melo would've worked. Melo is not a robot, you can't expect him to switch to love-JLin mode at will, when NY media were constantly using JLin as a hammer to get at him. But JLin would have won him over sooner or later [esp with Linsanity no longer an ego threat.]
Tiny fact: D'Antoni denied Melo suggested to play JLin. <- Doesn't mean Melo HATED JLin though.
I agree and I don't think D'Antoni lied about this. At the time Melo already had a bad reputation as being a selfish player so he/his camp/Stephen ASS Smith put it out there to make Melo look bad. I think Lin was trying to lessen the media hate toward Melo so he mentioned that Melo was the one that told D'Antoni to play him (this was before they asked D'Anonti I think). The reason why Lin got playing time was Knicks GM was trying to give him some playing time before cutting him. They wanted to give him a chance. Knicks GM was about to sign a player on the D league from another team. I think it was a west conference team (Arizona, Dallas, San Antonio???). There was a huge debate over at realGM forum as to who was telling the truth and the verdict was about 50/50.
I meant to say to make Melo look GOOD and not "bad".
Let's call this what it is .... Ugly and hateful treatment toward JLin because of disrespect and discrimination. We need to send clips of fouls by DeAndre Jordan (downward chop into JLin's face and eyes) and Ryan ( kick into chest of a falling JLin) with a formal written complaint and petition to the NBA Comissioner, the owner of the Houston Rockets, to all the corporate sponsors of the Rockets and the N B A, and an Asian-American Civil Liberties group.The referees will not protect Jeremy, the tv announcers cover it up, and truly forget about his teammates and especially his coaches having Jeremy's back."Rickey was dead-on about the racism. As Sports Illustrated's Bill Nack wrote: "Robinson was the target of racial epithets and flying cleats, of hate letters and death threats, of pitchers throwing at his head and legs, and catchers spitting on his shoes."Robinson learned how to exercise self-control -- to answer insults, violence and injustice with silence. A model of unselfish team play, he earned the respect of his teammates and, eventually, the opposition."Jeremy is like a "Jackie Robinson" for Asian-Americans in today's "tolerant" and so "enlightened" mainstream American sports culture. We are seeing the intolerance, hate, and ugliness with our own eyes. Below is excerpt from ESPN website: http://espn.go.com/sportscentury/features/00016431.htmlIf we see something and we don't say something ... Nothing will change.God bless Jeremy Lin. He shows courage and grit. But it's time we stand up for him.
It looked like Jeremy injured his wrist early in the 1st half. I hope it's not fractured, that will take a very long time to heal and recover from ... and his jumpshot may never be the same (Just look at Kevin Love).
Okay, I'm pissed. Jeremy Lin nor anyone else deserves this kind of barbaric treatment. The NBA is a PROFESSIONAL LEAGUE. There is no room for Bobby Knight tirades in this league. Only problem is, no one gives a shit except us Lin fans. Lin won't say anything about it, so, unless we just accept that Lin is going to be abused by his coaches for the rest of this season, someone needs to bring light to this situation, in an effective way, where our complaints won't just be dismissed as whining by crazy biased Lin fans.So, I'm going to give this more thought, but, I am thinking of starting a strategic attempt to bring light to Lin's situation. For example, I'm thinking what might be effective is an organized email/tweet/phone call campaign asking tough journalistic questions about McShithead's unprofessional behavior and treatment of Lin.For example, I'm thinking of a coordinated email campaign bombarding Rocket front office, announcers, coaching staff, rocket blogs/reporters, ESPN, NBA TV, etc., with emails/tweets/ asking empirical questions that force them to confront McHale's incompetence.For example, emails could say something like, "I watched the game and the Clippers announcers were surprised to see Coach McHale verbally criticize Jeremy Lin after a turnover. Is it normal for Coach McHale to "chew out" anyone of his players if he made a mistake like Lin had made?"Of course, the answer is no, he doesn't do this to anyone except Lin, and he'd never do it to Harden. But, the point is to (1) let the rockets and media know this is going on; (2) that fans are upset about it; (3) force them to have to either justify it or condemn it. Preferably the latter.The video solidz has is immmensely important, because the questions should always include the video. The video needs to go viral and national. Because it's more than just about Jeremy Lin. It's about professionalism in sports; it's an issue right along the lines of the bounty scandal in football, steroids in baseball, Lance Armstrong, etc. Thoughts? Or am I just overreacting and this is no big deal and we should just let things run their course and let Jeremy Lin deal with it, and just complain about it amongst ourselves when it happens again as soon the season starts up again.
All of those are excellent thoughts, RoberLin. At this point, Jeremy Lin is breaking new ground with each game. But he's actually winning the war overall by being a terrific NBA player and even better person. You simply posting here is having a positive impact, Roberlin. You are doing your part.
Agree! See my comment above .... "Let's call this what it is .... Ugly and hateful treatment toward JLin because of disrespect and discrimination. We need to send clips of fouls by DeAndre Jordan (downward chop into JLin's face and eyes) and Ryan ( kick into chest of a falling JLin) with a formal written complaint and petition to the NBA Comissioner, the owner of the Houston Rockets, to all the corporate sponsors of the Rockets and the N B A, and an Asian-American Civil Liberties group."
Thanks, I should remember your words when tomorrow morning I feel like I need to do more, to get this out beyond just Lin fans, but to truly bring it out into the light for the national media and audience to see, confront, and respond, hopefully with right action. Influential people that need to know what's beeen going on with Lin all season are those two Asian American mayors of SF and Oakland, and any Asian American sports media members who cares about these issues.
TkWong, exactly what I had in mind. Although I think the most powerful video/story is McHale and Sampson's disrespectful/discriminatory treatment of Lin, because you can't just write it off as stuff that happens during the course of the game.But, that kick - that was awful, even if Hollins seemed apologetic after he had done it. Although not as painful, it's on the level of Metta World Peace's elbow to Harden's head, and worse because it wasn't some crazy guy doing the kicking, it was a guy not known to be vicious, yet, he reacted instinctively and kicked Lin when he was down (literally and figuratively). And only a technical was called, no flagrant. Ugly, real ugly.
Roberlin,It was changed to a flagrant 1 because Lin got awarded with 2 free throws. Look on NBA.com.
ok, thanks for the info.Now i'm gonna complain it should been a flagrant-2, lol.
Ryan Hollins has several years of history with weird conflicts with other players. "The Kick" is the weirdest move he's had. I didn't even think he kicked Lin that hard. At least he sought out Lin after the game to apologize. I feel that opposing players are trying to see if they can foul Lin hard enough to injure him.
Ok, now i'm going all conspiracy theory here and suggest that some point guards in the league have talked together about putting Lin in his place, and that has resulted in some cheap shots and hard fouls. We know that some, not all, guards have been jealous of Lin's success and fame, believing it all to be undeserved, and that Lin truly sucks. If somehow we could get a hold of some text messages or emails saying to the effect things like, "Ha, ha, I got that [racist expletive] good today in the head and I didn't even get called for a foul."
Donatas Motiejunas @DonatasMotJLin gift ;-p he is my valentine?;-pppppppppp thanks Jeremy !gift
Lol, i thought the gift was Lin's neat pass to DMO for an easy 2.
Uh oh, Parsons gunna get jealous.I see DMo getting career highs night after night thanks to Lin after this game...
they must love music a lot.J Harden hands them one headphone now another from J Lin.Hint from the backcourt?
DMo might get frozen out by teammates if he keeps up with this Jeremy Lin adoration.
no, the real danger is Dmo might get sent back to the d-league because he goads Lin into trying to hit homeruns and because he would hit many playing with Dmo. McHale cannot have that happpen.
Jonathan Feigen @Jonathan_FeigenX-rays on Jeremy Lin's sore right hand were negative. Not unexpected but good to know before long flight.
That's great news, thanks @via.Fellow fans, stay cool a bit.The Odom, Hollis foul were nothing and it's good Lin got 2 shots for it. If you play or watch soccer or rugby, these are not hard contacts to absorb, especially if you are in shape. It's more showy, so sure on acting really hurt like all the pros do. Like KHuang says. Parson's picked Lin up. If Morris laughed, bad on him. Bad on McHale for not yelling at the refs.The big dangerous foul was the full speed one where he fell on his back, and maybe that's where he landed on his hand. To KHuang's point, heat hunting might have been done there, because it's easy to not contest that play if 2 guys are already in position to block or foul him. He got submarined by the guy chasing him who knocked the guy attempting the block. The chaser had no play - he should have backed off.If you, Roberlin, want to do anything, stay cool as you said to Solidz and think through a movement kind of thing that has some easy buy in for all the online fans. People will click social media, but they aren't going to sign petitions or write Les. Maybe a facebook page with some good explanation of intents, and then people can click for you in support. If you get 1 million, I'd say you have a voice. I'd click it to give you a voice, but I think Lin will do fine without this. The best bet maybe is not to try to change management from doing what it wants, because money is involved. Maybe the best tact is to ask NBA players not to head hunt Lin, and ask refs to stop the headhunts. If you can shift sentiment, and it doesn't cost these people money, then management will be influenced. My 2 cents, fwiw.Let's support our good man Lin. As long as his hand is ok, he's going to do great after the ASG.
One more thing, these days, it's easy to do mashups from youtube, but I don't have the tools. It'll be easy to compare how Lin is fouled and where he's not supported by refs or his coach. 5 mins max and you're set. Kev Jumba is JLin's friend, so you young and cool guys might be able to get him to help you do a nice vid to spread virally. Those guys have views, and if they want, they can get millions of hits on content they help to create. Only, you might not get the ok from them because they are close to JLin, and he might not want to be involved in that voice. The beauty of indie web production is it gives you a voice. Go for it!
JoeTeam, thanks for your input, especially about Kev Jumba.However, the video that disturbs me the most is the one of McHale verbally abusing Lin in front of his teammates after one lousy turnover. That, and the ridiculous comments about Lin shouldn't try to be a homerun hitter, he's only a singles hitter; i.e., he should realize he's not that good, and play within his many limitations.
melo (last year) and deron williams (this year) had "sore/bruised" wrists and they shot terribly until their wrists healed.I pray to God this isn't Lin's case.
Excellent observations! I did not see this game, but I see no problem in Jeremy Lin guarding a taller role player in Matt Barnes in order to spare him from further foul trouble.
Chris Paul could have just took the night off and Clippers still win by 10+ points.Paul basically didn't score a single point in the 2nd half. He didn't have to.
Thanks for the report. It seemed like Jeremy was on Barnes because he was the SG in that lineup. I guess McHale wanted more guys on the floor who can handle the ball. JLin usually does well against even bigger players though.
Faked out by @cali7. Lol
Sorry about that.
thanks for the live reporting, @cali7.At least we know McHale is an equal opportunity yeller to all PGs.Lin is the Rockets 2nd best defender after Asik so that's why they put him on Barnes, Bledsoe was not doing much so it's safe to put Beverley on him. Besides, Barnes is the taller guard.I thought the two biggest mistakes were:1. to take Lin out for this regular rotation with 3 min left in the 1Q which killed his momentum, especially after making his first 3PT shot. They should run plays to get him going.2. not trust Lin to be the main PG. When Lin made his high risk, high reward play, he got chewed up by McHale who doesn't like homerun/big plays. But they were behind so they needed big plays to get back in the game!I'm torn between wanting Lin to take over or watching him get hammered and injured like tonight.
cali7 broke our ankles with a mad crossover :/
Sorry, I was just joking. Really nothing to be sorry about. One question: What was your impression of the interaction between JLin and the teammates? Second question: did you get any pics/vids which you could perhaps share with us?
I don't think you can post them directly here. Tumblr or Twitter? I often see pictures hosted on those sites.
I'm glad there is some measure of camaraderie! Unfortunately it was over an injured wrist. argh
Cool, much appreciated. It seems like you were there early!Harden was actually shooting, too. I am glad he didn't play. He needs to get some rest for the knee and ankle, especially since has the ASG. I just hope JLin and Harden has enough time to recover so that they are ready for the race to the playoffs.
"McHale yelled at Beverly too"I feel better now!
Whew, at least it means McHale's hate for Lin isn't about race, it's about being an undrafted D-leaguer trying to act like he belongs among basketball royalty like Harden, himself, and Larry Bird.
Roberlin,McHale doesn't like to be proven wrong. He cut Lin the first time. He took his anger out on Lin because Morey and Les didn't give Dragic the 4th year player option.
I hope that he's angry enough to find coaching job elsewhere. Oh wait, no one else would take him, no wonder he's still here.
Thank you this was a good read. Helps a lot.
Thank you for the update! - I hate Hollins. Dirty player. Needs to get his face kicked in.- You are correct. Too many PG's. Parsons thinks he's the white Lebron. Watching the game from my laptop, Bev is very chaotic, there's no flow. he's a great spark and that's it.- When Lin/Bev were on the court, Bev was playing PG. that's why he was on bledsoe.
Thanks for the report @cali7 :)
Long time lurker here on site, but a big thanks to the people who saw the game! I look forward to these types of feedback compared to the regular loudmouth on this site (whom I desperately wish would go away *groan*).
Please stop posting things from this site to clutch fans!!!!! It makes you look ridiculous and it's not helping the situation. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, STOP.
k.smith~ What was posted?
cali7 and stu's comments about attending the game...specifically the parts about Lin walking past Mchale.
k.Smith,I concur with you. This will give them more reasons to hate the fans and Lin.The day that I sign up for an account over there is when the day I sell my soul to the DEVIL.
Stopped going to Crutch fans a while ago, too much vitriol and too little ball IQ.
Just wondering, did you cut and paste the "at the game observations" from members here to the Crutch fan site? Hopefully it does not attract more haters and trolls to this site, @KHuang will have his hands full. This particular game has generated so much anger and hate from both the LOH and LOFs. Thank god we have a week off to cool down.
Whoever is doing it, please STOP. You're making things worse.
I deleted my posts bc it seems things are getting blown out of proportion. I don't even know why ppl would copy and paste other ppl's comments. That's too bad.
Can anyone explain to me the concepts behind Mchale's offensive scheme, assuming there is some basis for it. Is it kind of like a Bobby knight movement scheme? Was Parsons tonight suppose to fill Harden's role as primary scorer? I was expecting to see Lin play the PG position but it appears that it was not the case. Who was running the offense? Does Mchale even have a quarterback role in his scheme or is it just 3 shooting guards taking perimeter shots.
An offensive scheme that produces the highest scoring team in the nba is not good enough?
Bob C F Chan, I'll try to answer your question. Kevin McHale runs an equal opportunity offense where anybody can make plays and score. However, McHale wants players to make quick decisive moves without overdribbling or taking bad shots. My guess is that he dislikes Lin for dribbling too much and shooting what McHale thinks are wild contested shots. What McHale doesn't seem to understand is that NBA defenses are loading up on Lin so much that he cannot make those quick decisive moves without attacking the rim off the dribble and probing defenses. James Harden, when playing with Lin, is a secondary option because Lin siphons so much defense toward him even without the ball. Thus McHale is irritated with Lin's game even though Lin is called the Rocket's "catalyst" by opposing coaches. Opponents know that if Lin catches the ball, he'll make good things happen for himself or his teammates. McHale just thinks Lin is a selfish ballhog.
While we fans thought there is problem abt McHale's coaching, I wonder if James Hardennotice it when sit on the bench for this game.If Jeremy can't or won't fight with the Coach, I wish James, the so called leader of rocketscan speak it loud.
KanI was actually thinking last night what you just wrote.since harden is watching the whole time, was he happy abt the way things turned out last night?was he happy that the team sucked without him and mchale didnt adjust to his loss?did he see the disrespect mchale gave lin during the game?if he wasnt happy with this, would he open his mouth?he looks like he is someone who would speak his mind and he looks like he can intimidate mchale...however, i wished jeremy would speak up for himself bec that is the right thing to do.
Have you thought the idea that Harden wants to play point guard? He demanded the balls a lot in the beginning of the season, but when they were losing he gave Lin more responsibility. This is the NBA and if Deron Williams and Kobe can get their coach or coaches fired, I am sure Harden knows he has that power.I think that was why I was ranting a few games back about Harden having a big ego and being selfish.
Don't have the feeling Harden is bothered so much by the lack of offensive scheme. After all, he's hailed as Superstar, excellent playmaker; having the privilege to not play defense, forcing shots, hogging the ball, though he's been sharing the ball lately. Besides, Harden has had experience playing for OKC, a team went deep to playoffs last season, he at least knows some if not many good offensive schemes. Had he bothered to speak up, he wouldn't have waited till now, unless he's also completely clueless or he's still adjusting to this new team?
LESLIE ALEXANDER: When the team doesn’t play well, he isn’t shy about letting his charges know he is unhappy. Morey has those conversations regularly. Rookie coach Kevin McHale got a taste of it after the Rockets’ season-opening loss at Orlando.-alright Mr. Alexander.let's talk, fan to fan....
Thanks for posting this. I remember reading somewhere that Les won't let Morey tank in order to get the lottery pick, but didn't know which article it was. He said that tanking is not an option. I am glad you found this because it confirms with my memory. It also confirms that Les is not a hand-on owner. If Rockets miss the playoff, McHale is gone? I wonder if Les know that McHale is oppressing Lin and it's hurting his development? I hope he understands the game of basketball and see through McHale's incompeteny. If not, I am hoping and praying that he asks Calvin Murphy advice and opinion.
The evil monster from hell is sucking the life out of Lin. I can't believe I am saying this, but I hate this bastard more than I hate Dolan.
I don't think Les Alexander fires coaches in midseason. I do know that Les will eject any player or coach who he feels is not buying into his vision of how basketball should be played. Lin is Les's handpicked star and pet project. Les knows how good Lin is. McHale better watch his back because if he doesn't use Lin properly, McHale will be out of coaching next season.
Lin was so much quicker than any Clipper. It was like watch Pete Sampras serve his trademark tennis aces, only it was Lin himself flying over the nets and not the ball!Lin totally greyhounded the Clippers last night. The Rockets should've plowed the ball through him in the 2nd half - they actually could have wom this game. Kenoshi said that the Clippers themselves recoiled and went easy on the Rockets after Hollins kicked Lin. Did anybody else see that?
After rewatching some of the highlights, I will also give some benefit of the doubt to the Clippers as far as headhunting Lin goes. Lin was a one man fast break against this max contract Clippers team. Every time he caught the ball and attacked, nobody could keep up with him or even jump against him. The Clippers could do nothing but clumsily foul Lin, and Lin's All NBA momentum made the fouls seem even worse than they were. This game more than any other, Lin's matchless speed and body control really showed. The way he dominated the Clippers athletically was like watching a young Michael Jordan with fresh legs greyhounding an old tired Celtics team for 63 points in 1986. Lin just ROASTED the Clippers offensively. I didn't really see Chris Paul or any other guard easily beating Lin off the dribble either.
I think Lin is great on the on ball D, but he lose point when his man cut without the ball.