Saturday, January 26, 2013

Rockets vs Nets Game #46 2nd Half Game Thread

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  1. Love it. Lots of turnovers because Lin is playing winning, aggressive basketball. Lin's being allowed to play pg.

    On another note, folks who spend time criticizing individual turnovers really don't understand what winning basketball is about. Okc led the league in turnovers last year. Houston is dominating because Lin is being allowed to play aggressive basketball.

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    1. For some odd reasons, I agree with you because usually it's a win when Lin has high number of TOs. High risk = high return i guess.

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    2. This is true, but a few of Lin's passes were still poorly thrown. At least the team finally did talk about Lin controlling the ball more, it is very obvious. And Harden is trying to let Lin set the table passing it back to Lin.

      I like how Asik or some random big man still inbounds to Harden or whomever but the PG and Harden keeps passing it over to the PG...based on that, I bet Harden figured it out on his own to let Lin set the table or Mchale/Morey spoke to Harden and maybe Parsons directly about letting Lin set the table more and didn't have a team meeting about it.

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    3. Look at the +/-, Lin with 6 TOs gas +10 whereas Harden with 0 TO has +/- 0

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    4. Dam Lin sat down and Nets cut it down to 9. Wow

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    5. That is not unexpected.When harden plays, somehow the rest of the team gets confused and out of sync. They need to adjust to harden and in the process each loses his focus

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    6. Absolutely correct! TO is a good sign but only during transition. Means he's attempting to make plays without hesitating!!! You gotta play with the flow!!

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    7. It's easy to second guess turnovers. Some passes will always be bad. Some shots will miss too. Do we criticize every miss? No. Making Lin second guess his passing has a negative effect on the fluidity of his play.

      I've posted a spreadsheet before of Lin last year. The Knicks TOs did NOT increase with Lin at pg despite Lin having high TOs.

      Today Lin has tons of TOs but how many do the Rockets have? That's the important thing. You want Lin making the teams decisions every single day.

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  2. Lin with 6 TOs... Asik bouncing back nicely from yesterday's poor offensive outing.

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    1. nets with a total of 6 TOs and rox with 7 TOs

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    2. Yep, just like last year. When Lin leads teams to wins and accumulates tos, it's time to update your model of what winning basketball looks like.

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    3. I would say at least 4 TO's are on Lin. The other TOs he got cheated because of Asik.

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    4. scorekeepers seem to cheat JLin on his stats. it seems that he's short changed on his steals and assists a bit. overall a pretty clean game with low TOs overall.

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    5. One of them is from the shitty charge call. There have been 3 TOs from Lin.

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    6. I don't mind his TOs so much today since other than 2 that was just dumb passes there were like 3 thanks to Asik alone.

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  3. Jeremy a little sloppy but Rockets are up big. You can Deron is fired up. I think Deron will go hard at Lin for the rest of his career.

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    1. He isn't playing hard at all since 1st quarter.

      That ankle bothering him perhaps.

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    2. He had 20 in the first quarter. Perhaps he made his point???

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    3. Deron jacking up 3's and getting hot only works for so long. Lin's style wins more games...

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  4. TD drains a 3 in Lopez's face.

    Nice. I wish Lin can do that.

    Harden back to iso ball tho. I really hope he doesn't do this in 4Q, Brooklin has plenty of talent to close a mere 11pt lead, it was down to 9 just now.

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    1. Hey, you got your wish! Twice now!

      And we know Lin can do this. Remember his 3s over Marion and over Novitski in that Dallas game during Linsanity?

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  5. I will take a win with Lin controlling the ball but having TOs anytime. Obviously, one hopes that will improve and I'm a firm believer it will.


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    1. i agree, it means that JLin has the ball and pushing to make things happen.

      nice drive from dwill.

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    2. He just needs to slow it down for Asik.

      Asik is like mentally challenged when it comes to catching fast passes, you have to slow it down for him and give him plenty of room, none of this pin point between the legs bounce pass or no looks cause he isn't watching the ball half the time.

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  6. Well at least one of the ref went to apologize to Lin on that charge call

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  7. Well at least one of the ref went to apologize to Lin on that charge call

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  8. DWill is just good.

    But you can tell he slowed down a lot since that near sprain.

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  9. LOL I like how Morris looked off Harden at the end of the third and passed to Delfino. Then Delfino passes back to Morris for the jumper. Otherwise Harden would have 100% shot the last shot LOL.

    That's a freezeout on Harden if I ever saw one. TOo bad morris shot an airball....

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  10. What is harden telling the 2 rockets?Asik got interested but kinda joined in late.

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  11. Lin just owns open court.

    Nuff said.

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  12. Brooklyn commentators love Jeremy Lin.
    EFF u Clyde

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  13. Nice, drive those fouls!

    I think Lin needs to train with LeBron over the summer.

    He needs to learn to flop more :D

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  14. I really love thse 2 announcers. They keep giving nice compliments to jlin

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  15. BOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!

    DRAINS A TREY IN WILLIAMS FACE!!!!

    HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

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  16. Lead back to 13.Fir the record, lin is in, harden is out

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  17. Lol was that an assist or block on Lin that landed in Asik's hands?

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    1. On replay you can see it's totally a beautiful assist. :)

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  18. JLin gets the ball, notices how far out he was and takes a step in... and nails the 3!

    nice wraparound dish to asik for the slam.

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  19. LOL LIN IS ON BABEEEEEEEEE!!!!

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  20. LOL HArden looked so annoyed Lin made the 2nd 3 pointer....he must be thinking "crap I might get back in till late now..."

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    1. really? that's pretty weak if that's true. there's no i in team.

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    2. Harden didn't look happy...more like "great i don't look like I'm needed & when am I gonna get back in if Lin keep hitting his shots?"

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  21. And they still think of benching Mr. 4th Q JLin? Take notes Mr. Coach.

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  22. General Lin reporting in for duty

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  23. Why the fuck are they scoring those passes wrap around passes in the paint by Lin as missed layups?

    That last dunk by Asik looked he got fed by a pass by Lin and dunked it.

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    1. Lin lost the ball...it should have been nothing statistically since there was no TO...

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    2. You're right, I just saw the other camera angle replay.

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  24. Asik improved leagues in this game.

    Its the 5hr energy he drank b4 the game.

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  25. That 3 off the dribble was nice!

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  26. Their D is deteriorating tho.

    Lin is keeping their double digit lead.

    Rox need to protect perimeter better.

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  27. Ok just when I compliment him he shoots 0/2 ft :/

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  28. No it wasnt. Ball was deflected from lin and luckily landed on asik's hands and made the dunk

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  29. Just like that nice and easy.

    Go Lin/Asik!

    Now they need a defensive stop to stretch.

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  30. Nice Delfino too bad Parsons couldn't make the 3.

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  31. Lin can have 15pts and 8TO's AND help get a win. Harden can have 30pts and 6TO's and have not impact on the game. That's the difference.

    Even better...Lin is paid $25 mil compared to $80.

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  32. smart pass to asik with that mismatch. nice to see asik dunking rather than trying a reverse layup.

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  33. Wow what a sick pass that was. I screamed "Hell Yeah Asik, catch the dam ball please" and he did with a Jam followed. Very nice indeed.

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  34. I was surprised that asik could get the low pass from Lin lol

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  35. AMAZING PASS BY JEREMY to STONE-HANDS ASIK.

    Bounce pass too! That's why Jeremy is smarter than any idiot announcer.

    He knows Asik can't catch passes -- might as well go low so defenses won't get it either.

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    1. haha, but as according to Clyde, Jeremy shouldn't be making those low passes to Asik, because big guys can't be catchin' those.

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  36. I always get scared everytime i see harden on the floor. There is always this threat that the lead will just melt away.

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    1. it's better to let Lin control the ball because he is less selfish with the ball. Harden isn't looking to pass as a first option ever...

      however, it's lin's stupid TO's that hurt his own cause or when he drives and gets stripped or blocked..

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  37. Great transition D by Lin, took that charge like a man :)

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  38. Maybe someone was listening to Calvin Murphy?

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  39. C'mon guys close this game out 5 possessions ahead don't get sloppy.

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  40. Smith is in...

    I don't know if this is good...Asik is hot atm, I know he needs rest but its crunchtime atm.

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  41. Man delfino is freaking ON today

    Who fed him the sausage?

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    1. McHale must have ordered alot of sausage because he has been eating Harden sausage.

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    1. when the team plays well and beardy trusts his teammates he seems more of a team player. well lets hope the rockets can keep this up.

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  43. If harden can play like this and allow Lin to setup plays, Harden will kill effectively.

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  44. wow... see harden hit turbocharge?! and 1!

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  45. Harden with a great reverse layup to put the lead back up to 13.

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  46. OOOOOH THAT WAS FKING AWESOME HARDEN!

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    1. nice seeing JLin's big smile after harden's reverse layup.

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  47. That is going into highlight reel lol Lopez so got pwned by Harden.

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  48. Look how much better when Lin initiates and harden is the assassin! Jesus Christ! Why is this so hard?

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    1. shhhh... don't want mchale to change his mind and go back to the losing ways.

      but you're right. makes one think of conspiracies against JLin.

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    2. i think balance is the key. harden wasn't isoing a lot and lin got his touches. 2 headed monster.

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  49. jlin initiating and being more aggressive. even though not putting a lot of stats, it's putting extra pressure on the defense to be honest.

    even commentators saying he needs to be like this every game

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    1. yes it makes the defense forget where HArden, Parsons, or Delfino are on the court. ANd allows Asik to get some weakside rebounds. The D is off kilter with Lin running in circles.

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  50. I don't know about you guys, but Asik got the game ball for this game. The man was on a mission tonight. 20 points and 16 rebounds.

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  51. Man this is how Harden should be used as well.. My goodness he looked great now finishing plays and the D can't key on him since they have to chase around Lin who's playing in turbo mode all around the court.

    My goodness, why do I feel like in 2 more games, Mchale will revert back to Hardenball though?

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  52. Nice show harden.rockets fans are livibg u to death.

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  53. less iso harden, more defense, and harden still gets his stats.

    this is the way to play.

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  54. Lol Lin is fired up he aws trying to defend everyone.

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  55. Harden on the left, jeremy in his right, delfino decided he'll give thr ball to harden.that shows who delfino thinks as the PG

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  56. Asik back in at 2mins.

    Harden is closing this game. Doing good today.

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  57. What's with the no call on Lin getting hammered that layup?!

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    1. It happens almost every night, man.

      Life as an Asian basketball player.

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  58. D. Williams the thug got Teed up and got ejected after cursing at the refs.

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  59. Lol DWill ejected...I missed it what did he do?

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    1. Haha see the grin on Lin's face? LOLOL.

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    2. deron is pissed about not getting a call on the (delfino?) steal.

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    3. Lin's been HACKED all night...no call.

      D-Will getting every damn call inside...and he still complains.

      I bet that's why D-Will got ejected.

      Deron: "Damn time, you gave me a call."
      Ref: "Lin ain't getting sh*t and he ain't whining like you."
      Deron: F*** you.
      Ref: TECH. EJECTED.
      Jeremy: Trolololol.

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    4. You don't want to assert that Lin's been receiving unfair treatment.

      Bamboo Forrest will ignore your arguments and go straight into insinuating that you're prejudiced towards the refs.

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  60. Wow.that's how star players behave when they lose. Reminds me of melo so much.

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    1. The real Knicks are showing their colors now. What a joke of a team...I love how the media pumps them up like they are real contenders...

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    2. Holiday got 35 points and 6 assists. He has the potential if he plays more under control.

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    3. If to compare the two teams now, Knicks is better, at least from the record. I think they do look like a Real contender this year, I won't surprise if they make to the final...

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    4. Holiday, what a good name. Every day is a holiday, because I am holiday.

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  61. No guard gets as many uncalled fouls against him as Lin. It's just a fact.

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    1. so true, Lin rarely gets calls, why is that????

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    2. Because he doesn't look "athletic" (i.e. black) enough.

      Unless the contact is 100% obvious, most refs will chalk it up to Jeremy "missing" an easy layup. Meanwhile, Harden will flop and get a call ("No way Harden missed that! Must've been fouled").

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    3. lin is complaining more to the refs so they will pay attention.

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  62. Come on JLin! 1 more assist for a double-double :)

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    1. Aww man he is out :/

      Great game today putting up some all star numbers.

      14 shots not bad, couple of bs non-calls ugh but whatever not gunna care about his misses when game is won :)

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    2. I was really hoping for that 1 assist as well. Dang.

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    3. Yeah, it's too bad he doesn't get the calls. His shooting percentage dips from all those non-calls.

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    4. :O!! What do you mean, the refs are inept at making fair calls!? Oh my...

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  64. Delfino is on because he is not handling the ball and trying to make plays. Lin and his teammates are passing to him in his favorite spots for him to shoot the threes. When he handles the ball he tends to be too cute and end up spending more energy and thus not able to get push on his legs to shoot the shot great.

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    1. Like on that 3-on-1 fastbreak he had Lin streaking on his rightside for the easy layup but he ignored him and wasted that possession.

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  65. Lin should have had a double double had Asik finished those shots in the first quarter. Although Asik had a good game.

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    1. Lin would have 12+ assists 17+ points if:

      1. asik didn't mess up like 3 passes
      2. he got the call on the two non-calls
      3. morris would have finished a couple of dishes

      They did much better on rotation, Harden and Lin are getting time apart and closing together...Best of all looks like everyone is on board with the new game plan.

      Lin is playing PG and elevating the team.

      Basically, just follow what we've been bitching about for the past 2 months. I am convinced Rox FO has people trolling this site :)

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    2. I'm telling you, Rox FO very possibly could be trolling this site himself and maybe even POSTING from time to time!!!

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    3. Absolutely. This is why I have only minimal respect for Rondo.

      Jeremy -- even without handling the ball 70% of the time -- would average 10 assists on that team. On the Rockets, however, Jeremy had to deal with 7-footers who can't dunk or make layups consistently.

      Asik owes Jeremy half his paycheck. He'd be averaging 5ppg with a "star" PG like Deron or Rondo. The fact that Jeremy gets him shots that are point-blank layups 90% of the time is the only reason his offense looks respectable.

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    4. Asik should thank him because eventhough Asik messed up on Lin's passes earlier, Lin never gave up on Asik and still feeding the big whale. Lin's thinking is that if you keep feeding him sooner or later it will be automatic like muscle memory.

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    5. Nothing like learning while in the line of fire.

      Now, if only McHell would give some minutes to some bench players to have some minutes on the court with professor Lin.

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    6. no doubt you guys are right about the RoxFO trolling here.

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  66. Cant stand harden. Rockets win but game was not as fun the last one.

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  67. McHale is running up to Harden and trying to stroke Harden's ego about what a great game he has tonight and how the Rockets didn't win without him. He must definitely be on the Harden sausage. He's a kiss ass.

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    1. Harden kept walking and ignoring him. Hahahaha.

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  68. It's a good sign seeing McHale was still talking to Harden and Lin as they went to the locker room. What a great game! Funny ending with DWill getting ejected and Lin got a silly grin :)

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    1. D. Will probably told the ref, what the f*ck, why are you treating me like an Asian and not giving me any call. I got a bummed ankle.

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    2. I am a star goddam it. I made Linsanity, I should get the star treatment. I should I should I should.

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  69. wondering what mchale was saying to JLin in the tunnel?

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    1. "What do you mean you gave Delfino some Chinese sausage?" :)

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    2. He is saying, jeremy you are a nice kd, you will be fine, you have your ups and downs coz u are a young player, but u will be fine, you are doing ok. BUT, harden , oh my harden, he is just great.

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    3. LMAO u guys are too much :D

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    4. McHale doesn't look like a guy who likes Lap Chong. He likes some Andouille sausage. It has more soul.

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    5. What McHale should have said: "You were our all-around MVP today. Even with the TOs, you got hammered with no whistles, still hit big shots and made winning defensive plays. Not to mention, you had 20 great passes that Asik and others couldn't finish. I'm proud of you...keep it up."

      What McHale probably said: "You shot 5-14 with 6TOs. That's why you're not playing PG. Harden won us this game...you're just lucky to be here."

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    6. What he should have said is, thanks for saving my job.

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    7. Mchale has nothing else to say abt lin except you are fine, you are doing ok and you are a nice kid.maybe jeremy thinks he is listening to his mom minus the concern.

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    8. He said, thanks Jeremy, for that bag of pop corn that help me get through the night rewatching ur games and finally realize I been misuse you for so many times.

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    9. That was a bag of popcorn? I thought that was Lin's gf.

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    10. Etane, if anyone didn't know any better, calling that popcorn his gf can be considered racist :)

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    11. "l told you, hang in there. Beard got his ASG contact milestone, so we ease back to playing for the win now. Keep it on the quiet, don't make it too obvious."

      "Yeah, alright. Can you have a word with Sampson I'm in on it? And give TD some PT too while your at it?"

      "No prob ... remember be still and quiet."

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    12. Sorry... I meant that was Curry's popcorn. More PC?

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    13. haha yes, even popcorn needs some affirmative action these days :)

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    14. McHale: Did you see how Harden won that game for us? Finally I have the guard I've looking for.

      Lin: ...

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    15. another one

      "ok, you got to play in 4Q for 2 straight games now. What about calling Les to call off the daily meetings? I really hate to shave my beard in the morning"

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    16. @jTeamW1 haha..

      McHale: "Be Still and know that I am God"
      JLin: "..."

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  70. he was saying you have 6 to ha ha

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    1. LOL... probably... but then he said, you'll be fine.

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  72. Harden played well. I don't mind Harden taking it to the rim when he gets the ball, as long as he doesn't try to go ISO. Also, ISO is not a bad idea when Rockets is winning by a decent margin near the end and need to use up the clock. Lin for the first time took 15 shots. Even the commentators said if Lin could hit long jumpers, he would be unguardable. Lin did well enough. He hit two 3s in a row.

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    1. Yeah, if he can hit 3s from spot-shooting consistently, he'd be retarded.

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    2. Harden actually gave the ball up a couple times toward the end!

      But he had a +/- of ZERO despite 29 points. LOL. What a "star"!

      Jeremy missed two shots at the end though -- hacked hard but no call -- so I'm worried James won't do it again ("Dude, you missed the shots when I gave you the ball! See?").

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    3. Well, let's also give credit to Harden as a super-efficient scoring machine. His +/- clearly showed deficiency in defense and he can learn a lot from Lin but Lin can also learn much about effortless shooting and strong moves to draw fouls.

      Both are not perfect but together I can see they're slowly becoming the best backcourt duo in the NBA.

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    4. Harden did play well and got his points within a half-court offensive structure instead of just iso-ball. But really, I thought the bigs were the difference in the game with Lin, Parsons, and even Harden feeding them the ball in spots where they could get high percentage shots..

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  73. Lin 14 points -> +14
    Harden 29 points -> -1

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    1. Same as last night. 30 pts +4.

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    2. Those are all star #s. You know, all offense and no D.

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  74. Damn I benched Lin and Manu today in fantasy, both have decent stats.

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    1. keep taking one for the team, cara.

      better yet, waive lin.

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    2. Don't break the streak, Cara! :)

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    3. I thought someone told u do not do it yesterday? lol

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  75. I guess Im getting good at predicting these games. Decent game from and Asik and patterson played well in the post = a good win. Lin 4th quarter was great to watch. That pass from Lin to Harden to Delfino fun basketball!

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  76. Lin has a nice line with +14 scoring 14pts/9asts/1blk/1stl/1reb.

    His passes were shaky before 4Q but his defense picked up in 4Q and made Nets uncomfortable. His help defense prevented DWill getting a clean reverse layup at one point.

    I'm impressed with his confidence in making back-to-back 3PTs that stretched the lead back to 13.

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    1. solid effort by lin again tonight. he probably could have been physical with dwill in the first 1/2 to slow his momentum.

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    2. By the way, 5-14 shooting isn't bad at all considering:

      -Jeremy made TWO threes and 2-2 FTs. So his TS% is still 50%.
      -Jeremy was hacked HARD three times with no call. I'm not even counting two or three other hacks that were 50/50 calls.

      He was the clear MVP of the game -- his help defense was Linsane. No guard in the NBA plays better help defense than Jeremy.

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    3. @pacapunch

      Jeremy was benched early on. D-Will got 11pts in four minutes on Toney Douglas.

      Also, D-Will is a jump shooter who gets superstar calls. When he's "hot," there's nothing you can do.

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    4. Yeah zxcvb, I think Jeremy forgot to put up his arm and look up the sky so he can get the Harden foul call from the refs.

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    5. Not according to Clyde the Glide. Apparently in the games Clyde's been watching, Douglas is a much faster, stronger guard, and can fill the gap where JLin wasn't covering his PGs at all.

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  77. 76ers spanked the knickerbockers 97-80.

    melo 25 pts on 9-28 shooting. amare 8-13 with 20 pts.

    jrue with 35 pts on 16-25 shooting.

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  78. You can't stop passing to Asik just because he can't catch.

    Houston needs that interior presence in order to spread the defense.

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    1. i think greg smith inspired asik to play better after a troubling 1st quarter.

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    2. If you can only combine those two into one player...

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    3. give smith's hands to asik. that's all he needs :)

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    4. Or, if you have Lin's brain and Harden's body...

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    5. Or McHale's body plus Greg Smith's ankle...

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    6. I would just have a healthy Lin playing with confidence.

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  79. Jeremy Lin is going to have turnovers from teammates not coming to the ball.

    This young Rockets team is still learning how to play. Plus they've had some tanking issues of their own that are being solved, hopefully.

    When Lin sets up to pass, his teammates need to cut toward him HARD. Enough of this loosey goosey strolling that makes it difficult for Lin to tell if the player is actually really ready to receive passes.

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    1. Chandler usually does a good job of helping Lin when he's picked up his dribble and has nobody to pass to. He had a couple good cuts to the basket tonight.

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  80. Wow, who would have guessed both Asik AND Parsons would get a double double. tonight.

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    1. I know, especially the way they've been playing last couple games. Good for them, they need this!

      5 Rox players in double digit points (Harden, Asik 20+), TD getting his minutes back. Parsons with career high 11 assists, Morris with career high 10 rebounds.

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  81. Guys, can someone tell me if your post was removed/ deleted for whatever reason, would the poster see that the comment was deleted or you would not just see your post?jcoz i see a lot of deleted cooments but i wonder if those people see that their comments were removed.pls let me know of the answer. Thnks in advance to whoever will reply

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    1. I don't post very often so I don't know if this will help but because there is no way to edit posts, I will often delete my post and repost it with the corrections, or put it in the right place if I happened to reply to the wrong person. Yes I can see that my posts have been deleted by myself. I have never had posts deleted by administrator.

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    2. They see it as "This comment has been removed by the author."

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    3. Ok.that's what i wanna know.coz i feel like there are some posts that i made that didnt show up.Thnks to both of u 888( glad that u chose not 666) andJK(jeremy kin, as in a jeremy relative).

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    4. Sometimes what happens is that you want to click into "reply", but what you actually did was "Add Comment". I've done that before; I would post something new that's completely nonsensical because it was a response to another post.

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