Friday, January 4, 2013

Rockets vs Bucks Game #33 Post Game Thread

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    1. [Oops, no tags.]

      ^ willydilly: Somebody needs to find a video where they show Lin licking his finger :)

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    2. How is that bump got so bloody??? from the video it seems not that serious..but the blood draining on his face is scary. And yes, he licking his own blood. lol.

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    3. Haha it's JLin who's awesome. ^^

      AN AWESOME, AWESOME MAN...

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    4. BTW:

      What the hell is this?

      https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A_0iKk7CUAA5Vgb.jpg

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    5. A 3-way secret Shaolin handshake...thingy...LOL

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    6. Maybe there's something JLin's not telling the world...

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    7. @via:

      Nice pic. How did you find that?

      BTW:

      Pic on the wall with silver frame -> IKEA. I got 3 of those. I think I have the same carpet too. And - hes got a pretty small flatscreen for a 25.000.000,00 Dollar man. Mine is bigger! MUAHAHAHAHA

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    8. [Pic's from one of the Chinese forums.]

      Lol, you must be the lost twin [!]

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    9. awesome finds , via.

      you're the man! (or is it woman?) :)

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    10. the woman, chan c, the nosy, nosy woman haha.

      Anyhow don't forget: HOU @ CLE -> we'll be watching JLin shut down Kyrie! :)
      [Don't be late!]

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    11. The pic you've all been waiting for.

      Tasting blood...

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    12. @via
      wow, you're woman? SALUTE!!!

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    13. lolwut...You thought I'm a guy?
      @Liv we need to go get some JLin coffee and you can tell me all about what made you think this haha...

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    14. everybody is kung fu fightiiinnn

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    15. @via, would be nice to chat with you over coffee... :)

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    16. Those cats were fast as lightniiinnn


      [@liv - I'd like that ^^]

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    17. Lets go!' JEREMY
      Lets go! Rockets

      Lets go! For the winning streak.....!!!

      Go Go Rockets

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    18. I wish JLIn would look a little meaner on the picture (licking blood). It would be great to scare NBA players off. Like "yeah Im bleeding and I love it. Im gonna kick your ass too! Muahahahaha!"

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  3. The Rockets boys seem to like killing their old teams.

    Jeremy and Toney - tarnished Knicks' home record and gave them their first home loss. killed Knicks twice.

    Asik - schooled Noah and made him irrelevant on defense last Christmas. slaughtered Bulls twice.

    Delfino - draw blood from Bucks with his 3s.I see him doing it again this February 27.

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  4. How can you not admire Jeremy after this game... always fighting with his WHOLE heart, would rather get a team win than pad stat, will do whatever it takes to help the team without a single negative comment against anybody or any circumstance but always the first to critic himself... a true athlete that every young people should learn from

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    1. That's because he is a WARRIOR.

      Bloodied yes, but he will come back FIGHTING!

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    2. Yes. I like that he always give credit to his team and Willing to blame on himself when losing the game. Unlike others. People always said basketball is a team thing but when talk about win and credits I see them tend to point to one person. What jlin does is the kind of true leadership I think should be.

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    3. Stat line tonight: 8 points, 7 assists, 6 TOs, 5 stitches, 4 steals, 3 fouls, 2 FTS, 1 rebound, 0 fear!
      [fr twitter]

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    4. Well said balintuna. This is the first time I would happily see lin remain on the bench . His fearlessness is admirable and makes him such an exciting player to watch. Adore the somewhat reckless way he plays but would rather see less of that if it is at the expense of his body.

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    5. @via,

      Awesome stat for Lin tonight. I like it.

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  5. Andrew Gruman ‏@AndrewGruman
    Jeremy Lin got five stiches in his head. Said they went through the concussion protocol on him but he had no signs of having one.
    8:37 PM - 4 Jan 13

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    1. I think it's Sanders who has to be checked for concussion:

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      Ugly head-on collision between @JLin7 and Larry Sanders. Jeremy headed to locker room for stitches. Sanders stays in game, but looked dazed.

      meanwhile, after getting 5 stitches, our boy got angry and played it out in the 4th Q...

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    2. Um, it IS protocol [in JLin's case] after all...

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    4. I think both has to be or were checked for concussion. Sanders looked badly hurt too and disoriented.

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  6. Guys how many wins should our Rockets get to move up to 5th seed?

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    1. we're still about 2.5 to 3.5 games behind

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    2. Thanks! I didn't expect that our Rockets can be part of top 8 this season.. well done!!"

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  7. Thank god we ended up winning. Bucks was basically self destruct @2nd half.

    I was already planning to spend the rest of the day crying on my bed after Lin got hit in the head, yet he came back in step his game up

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    1. Lol.haha. I bet jlin will use the ugly game term again. This game is truly an ugly game as hell.

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    2. How many airballs were there in 1Q? It was a brickfest there for a while, think it wasn't till almost 2mins into the game b4 the first points and it was FTs...6 brickes in a row.

      Ugly? Yeah...

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    3. call me crazy but i just didn't feel right this game even before tonight...i was worried to death that JLin might get hurt badly...Thank God he's alright now but that 5 stitches are worrisome to me...

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    4. Word is McHale roused the guys with a halftime speech ala Bill Fitch.

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  8. I wonder why Lin cannot play as great as he is usually capable of after every time the all star votes announced

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    1. @Rikki - Oh, there's a pattern..?

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    2. what separates the greats from the good players? consistency. Lin needs that.

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    3. Just speculating, but that is the impression I got. Something else that we don't know must be happening off the court

      No definitive proof thou

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  9. Love how Jenny only got 2 buckets off Lin all night and Lin blowing by Jennings in the 4th quarter!

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    1. Haha I think Lin is going to leave a permanent sense of dread for opposing PGs.

      "Aww fk we're playing rox, there goes my stat line >_<"

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    2. why are some people on clutch fans saying that Jennings had an easy time against Lin then?

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    3. k.smith, not sure, but Jennings was 2 for 7 off Lin all night. On two drives he had nothing and passed it out. Jennings scored off TD tonight... But Lin was getting to the bucket at will in the 4th after he came back in.

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    4. Seriously don't know what some of those guys are watching on Clutchfans.

      Jennings had no luck vs Lin all night like slash29 said.

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    5. I can hear the haters saying this line again and again even if it's already 2013,"Jeremy's no good PG. he got shut down by Chalmers"

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    6. .. even if Houston Rockets played against Milwaukee Bucks

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    7. @k.smith:

      Its just a few knuckleheads who think so. Some people on this site were not impressed by Lin too. Its always the same with those folks.

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    8. It's easy to discount what one does not want to know. We see what we believe [and not the other way around.]

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    9. even NBA game story shows no mercy for JLin's TOs:
      "Lin returned start the fourth quarter and finished with eight points, seven assists and six turnovers."(excerpt of GOOD MOVE). why can't they just leave out the turnovers?

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  10. I am just glad the Rockets got a win :)

    1) Lin showed grit after being hit and I admire him for that. However, do not expect everyone even rocket fans to appreciate him for that. At the end of the day, in the eyes of fans, numbers count. A perfect example if Jared Jeffries in NY. That guy sacrificed his body, taking charges and took care of Lin. But dude gets ridiculed and booed by ny fans. They would only praise Lin if he got injured and still scored well. His stat line was terrible so no one is going to care about that. AS fans, we know how Lin is like so I do salute him for that.

    2)The sad thing about Lin's situation is that so many things happened and he is unable to prove his "worth". By "worth" I mean what fans think (numbers game). Lin played poorly in the pre season and I honestly think it has to do with his injury. Then came all the criticisms. In my humble opinion, that was not warranted. After Harden came, he became THE man and Lin was put into a position to compliment Harden by being a spot up shooter and instead show cased Lin's weakness. Then again came the criticisms. While some of us were unhappy that Lin was being a spot up shooter, I on the other hand was thinking that it was Lin's opportunity to develop other offensive weapons. PGs like kyrie and Lillard are being put in the position to showcase their strengths and it gets them thier numbers so people compare them to Lin and think Lin is crap. Lin trying to fit in the team may lead to an indirect way of forcing Lin to exapnd his game. That is if, Lin takes the right attitude and manages to do it during the offseason. Unfortunately, no one is going to take into account that Lin is trying to fit into the team because Harden is another playmaker. To be honest, when Lin was killing it last season, many people contributed to the wins but no one talked about it. Let it be Harden's time to get the attention.
    3)It is good that Lin is discovering his weaknesses NOW than later. That is what happens to those top draft picks. Immediately, the coach plays to their Strengths and thus weaknesses are dimmed. Come playoffs time, Harden may not get the calls when he gets into the paint . That is when people would realise that he needs to develop his game as well.
    I have said this several times but despite Lin driving more to the basket, it is not an indication that his knee is 100%..if anything, it is ONLY better.
    In my opinion, Lin performing well against kyrie would be important BUT I am more concerned about progress and team wins.
    You shouldn't expect Lin to ALWAYS drive to the basket because it would not benefit Lin in the long run. Now is the time for him to IMPROVE on other aspects and as we know, Lin has improved on defense.

    4)If Lin does not make it to the All star game, you all shouldnt be upset at all .At the end of the day, I am sure Lin wants to EARN that vote. When Lin said it would be great to be in the All star game, I am sure that Lin would want his performance to back it up as well. Lin has been brutally honest before the Knick game that he was doing terrible. That is what I like about Lin. He is not afraid to confront his weakness and he is honest about it. Although I am not in for voting Lin to be in ASG.. I find it annoying that people who complain that Lin doesnt deserve it dont do anything about it . Is like a smart but lazy student complaining that the hard-working student has better grades. Anyhow, As fans, you might want to see Lin be in the All star game BUT I also want to let you all know that it is MORE important that Lin progresses so whether he is in it or not, I am sure Lin just wants to be the best that he can be integral in helping his team.



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    1. I liked everything you wrote except #4. Please don't try to tell me what Jeremy Lin thinks because no one knows. If you watched the original all-star press conference from the beginning of the season, Lin was interviewed and wants to be in the all star game. He didn't say, "i'll play when I deserve it". He wants to play and he wants the fans to vote.

      Yea, i'm going to keep voting for him.

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    2. I believe that too! He wants to be in too! Who don't want to be in? However, if lin didn't get to the ASG, at least his votes are close to chris paul and way higher than other players. That will be the only thing I feel happy about if lin didn't make it to ASG.

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    3. Ditto, ANYONE who has the ability to author Linsanity against all odds gets my vote. Aside from his jumpers not falling, there are plenty of other reasons beyond his control affecting his offense stats, such as knee surgery, new team, new system, youngling teammates, Harden, new role, usage rate, etc. etc.

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    6. So sick and tired of "blah blah blah Lin needs to earn his vote blah blah blah" or Lin "wants to earn his votes blah blah"

      Its a popularity contest, if its skill based you just pick the top whatever in whatever category and call it done.

      As in, the fan, ME, decides who I WANT TO BE IN THE ALL STAR GAME. If I want MACHADO, I would WRITE IN HIS VOTE.

      You know, in his starts since Linsanity, he has played with and/or against the best. And he's no worse for wear. Trust me, he'll be FINE in ASG, and you might see him excel because he won't be playing with SCRUBS that can't catch his passes, or can't screen/set picks if their lives depended on it.

      If Tony Parker thinks Lin is good, that's enough affirmation for me, not that I need it, I already know Lin is good.

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    7. Chill guys! I was just stating my opinion just like how you guys are. I am a fan like the rest of you guys here. I made no mention about how you should vote. I am just expressing what I feel and maybe you are right about Lin. I do not know him personally ..it was just a conjecture. As what you have said as a fan you have the right to vote . In no way did I suggest you should NOT vote for him.

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    9. personally, ASG is just that, a popularity contest. I don't need to see Lin in a popularity contest just for affirmation that he's good. I much prefer Lin rests during that weekend. bulk of games for playoff seeding starts after ASG. not that I think he is weak, but rest could help his banged up body refresh and be back with a vengeance for playoff contention.

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    10. I want to see a good number of votes for Lin. Votes mean popularity and popularity is good. JLin can cash in on it (sponsors, adds). It also shows how much people care about Lin. It shows that NBA people cant just treat JLin like crap and get away with it -> you hate on Lin -> people will hate on you.

      I would love to see JLin on ASG. JLin is a nice guy. Meeting all the top players means having lots of chances to make friends. The more friends you have in the NBA - the better.

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    11. ...There are people out there who are now voting for CP3 bcos they see him as the last stand against the flood of votes from the "Asian horde."

      As for his popularity, here's a silly article by Darren Rovell about JLin's supposedly declining marketability.
      And yet:
      He's packing road games.
      The league chose him to represent the Rox.
      He's the one selling tickets.

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    12. I've read that too @via. BS writing from ESPN. shame...

      on a lighter note, I don't troll at clutchfans, but I'm seriously LMAO at the responses over this thread:

      http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=230501

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  11. holy cow, anyone watching the lakers/clippers game? whoa.

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    1. Kobe makes a big MID-RANGE jumper. Just like Jeremy needs to shoot.

      They'll give you that shot, so if you can hit it at an unusually high rate (like Jeremy does), then you have to throw "moneyball" out the window and take it.

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  12. The key to offensive consistency is MID-RANGE.

    MID-RANGE. Again, look at TONY PARKER.

    The guy only shoots 1.5 3s per game and is 30% for his entire career (with several seasons in the 20%s). And he's STILL ELITE.

    You don't need 3s Jeremy! Only shoot 3s when you absolutely have to. And take that floater from 10ft. And that turnaround fadeaway from 18ft. You're MONEY on those.

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    1. JLin might have been trying to comply with what the coaching staff believes...
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    2. You read my mind. That's EXACTLY my concern.

      To be fair, I hear Jeremy is a great practice shooter, so I can see why they'd tell him to stop taking so many mid-range shots. Even Doc says he's money from deep in practice. But in a game situation with physical wear-and-tear, it's just not the same.

      Anyway, let's all remember that this is Jeremy's FIRST FULL SEASON. He's going to be trying some things that may or may not work out. At every level of b-ball, he's been a late bloomer...and then become elite. The NBA should be no different.

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    3. I dont get it either. JLin has such a good midrange shot - he should utilise it. There is this weird way of thinking -> either make easy layup or if you shoot - cash in by shooting 3.

      That sounds so nice but whoever thinks so does not have an eye on the teams shooting percentages. I would rather see Lin (and other guys) have good midrange percentage than low 3 pt percentage.

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    4. When you have wide open 3s, you have to shoot. You can't second guess.

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    5. Not saying Lin should pass up short or mid range jumpers. But if he is willing to shoot only 8 shots per game, he is not going to be influencing the game on the offensive end. Honestly, even though Lin made some good plays at the end (which doesn't explain why he cannot start like this), as I said, Lin got less points than Jennings who sucked (a lot of it due to Lin's D on him). When you have less points than the opposing player who sucked, something has to change.

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    6. You are open so you HAVE to shoot? Like Delfino who shot 3 of 12 earlier? Great OCD kind of way to loose games dude.

      People always talk of wide open looks as if noone is guarding JLin ever - but how many does JLin get each game? 3-5? This is pretty much the number of shots that he chucks up. For someone who is not a 3 pt specialist thats OK. For some reason people have been talking like JLin had to shoot like Novak. Anyone compared numbers yet? How many shots does Novak take? 5 a game?

      JLin needs to retweak his 3 pt shot but you cant do something like that midseason. We will have to wait for off-season for that.

      Meanwhile - JLin could simply position himself closer to the hoop. He can stop his drive and shoot instead of going in for layup.

      Lin often drives to pass the ball out. He can be more selfish and simply take a shot...

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  13. coffee time's highlights - he shows everything. even the looks lin gets his teammates that they miss. http://youtu.be/gYVNaKhgOIE

    @via, can you link it like you normally do?

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    1. k.smith and others interested in how to link, check out this tutorial. Really easy and you'll be linking pages like via in no time! Good luck.

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  14. Another sub par game for Jeremy, but he managed to turn it around when it really mattered down the stretch. Showed toughness coming back from that horrific injury.

    Tomorrow's mission ... SHUT DOWN Kyrie Irving !!!

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  15. it's just a joy and a blessing to see the kid play with all of his heart and might.

    'couldn't ask for more coz i know , all that we expect from him , basketball and skills wise will eventually happen. he'll come around for sure.

    i'll be patient for now... and support him unconditionally.

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    1. I myself am learning to be patient. I trust he has his reasons for why he does things his way. It would be silly to think we have more insight into his situation than he does. I take it for granted that he's fearless, and capable, and always doing the best his circumstances permit. I'll be with him through this journey. :)

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    2. Thanks via for sharing same sentiments as mine. Jeremy is truly blessed to have supporters who love him unconditionally.

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  16. Lin has to play very well always and not when the team needs him
    Lin needs to improve their statistics

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  17. Jeremy needs something to protect himself from injuries. good thing James has a suggestion:

    http://fauxscandinavian.tumblr.com/post/39739797420/this-is-sooo-cute-source-tieba

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    1. Lol, funny! Wow, that fauxscandinavian person has a LOT of gifs. Love the ones with him rejecting shots.

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    2. No need for an iron mask, it's just JLin's Mark of the Dragon revealing its fierce self!

      [Lol that Iron-Lin's so cute...]

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    3. lol holysheet via I almost crap my pants. Internet will always have ways to amuse you

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    4. lol good one via, thank you very much. You've made my day

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    6. whoever came up with that "Mark of the Dragon" is really genius.

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    7. HAHAHA! Hey guys - the admin should put these pictures on a site for people to browse through :)

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    8. Now that JLin has a dragon on the left he needs a phoenix on the right.

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  18. Lin should play like he did in 4th without thinking too much. Gotta take more than 12 shots per game, or he's not helping himself.

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    1. He was in rage. The fact that he plays like that when hes in rage and plays different when he isnt suggests that somebody is asking Lin to play "passive".

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  19. Aww! That nasty cut and collision threw me at the edge of my seat!

    Actually, my # 1 prayer for JLin is to stay healthy and protected at all times {meaning , to be free from harm and injury).

    But , at the rate things are going , it seems I'm being teased. He seems to get hit hard at every game recently.

    I really hope this will be the last. I'll pray doubly hard.

    Stay safe , JLin!

    Me too , find joy in seeing you play the game you love to play.

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  20. My Thoughts After the Game:

    MAN O MAN THIS KID J.LIN HAS HEART :)

    I love how Jeremy Lin showed Character in the 4th Quarter. He really has a fighting spirit within him, as he always finds a way to bounce back one way or another... that's what I like about him.

    I've also noticed that Lin had the ball more in the 4th Quarter, but he really needs to change the way he approaches the game from the start. He tends to look for his team mates first and goes for the assist, rather than get his shots first. Perhaps it would be better if he gets his shots first and then look to create for others, once he establishes that he's a scoring threat on the court it would open up a lot of options wherein he can go for the assists and start creating for others.

    The Houston Bench did a FANTASTIC job getting into the game after a 2nd Quarter blow out.

    DELFINO & DOUGLAS & PATTERSON <----- THE BIG THREE of the bench

    James Harden... what can I say about him aside from the fact that he's a great scorer. I know some of you will think that I hate harden, but honestly I don't... He's a great scorer and a lousy defender.. he has 3 aspects in his game:

    #1- an offensive game wherein he gets his points from isolation
    #2- a facilitator game wherein he creates plays for others
    #3- an offensive game wherein he gets his points from the assists of others in the context of team basketball

    I like him when he's playing #2 and #3... but 50% of the time he's #1 and Hate his #1 game...

    Overall I find Houston Rockets Team to be a SUPER EXCITING TEAM... why? Because even if Lin plays shitty basketball from Q1 to Q3... they still beat the bucks and blew them out in the 4th... Imagine if the WHOLE TEAM is FIRING in ALL CYLINDERS... WOW! Can't wait for that game, and I'm hoping it would be in the Playoffs :)

    Good day everyone!

    gino

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    1. Good post. Lin has to look to score because he can always dish for good assists, not the other way around.

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    2. "shoot the ball. Catch and shot" Harden said. Read this in the NBA story. Harden's mentality is to get the ball and shot. Lin's mentality is get the ball and pass.

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  21. does anybody other than me realize that Lin is on a CRAZY winning streak that surpasses everything he did last season.

    Even when Lin is struggling with his health, he's finding ways to win games.

    It seems to me that when Lin plays well, the Rockets either win early or take their vastly overmatched opponent all the way to the end of the game. And when he plays poorly usually due to injuries caused by hard hits, he some how ekes out a win anyway.

    Jeremy Lin is the ULTIMATE WINNER.

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    1. Lin just linning

      I hope he can keep linning during the long road games stretch this month

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    3. Well said KHuang, I was worried for a while and when he came back, he was great trying to help his team win. Hope he does well against the Cavaliers.

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    4. I actually EXPECT Lin's Rockets to keep winning on the road.

      I keep repeating that unless Lin faces the Western teams with the rangy mid range shotblockers, there is no way anybody can truly shut Lin down and thus stop the Rockets.

      The Rockets have no business being anything other than the worst team in the NBA, yet they're now 19-14 (6th in the West) with their #30 (league last) payroll!

      I firmly believe that if Jeremy Lin were removed from the Rockets and any All Star PG like Westbrook or Paul or Williams or Rondo or Parker were to take Lin's place, this Rockets team would suddenly start losing like a #30 payroll team even if that player's max contract bumped the Rockets payroll up a few places.

      In all my decades of watching the NBA, I have seen only one other player than Lin step onto a league worst team and suddenly transform that team into a consistent winner. That player is Michael Jordan, of course!

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    5. @KHuang,

      What do you think is the reason Jeremy usually has slow start in almost every game? Does he over-analyse the game flow/opponents?

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    6. KHuang forgot to take his medication again: "Lin is on a CRAZY winning streak" It's not Lin, it's the Rockets. The Rockets would have won if Lin did not return in the fourth quarter.

      Need to double up on the delusional pills: "And when he plays poorly usually due to injuries caused by hard hits, he some how ekes out a win anyway." Lin played poorly because he played poorly. Lin didn't eke out the win, the team did.

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    7. Sure Asa, Lin with blood streaming down the side of his head was "delusional"

      Sure Asa, Lin racking up the assists and points when it counted was "delusional".

      Sure Asa, Lin starting for this Rockets team and getting the win was "delusional".

      Sure Asa, Lin playing on a bum knee that forced him out of practice before this game was "delusional."

      Sure Asa, Lin having ANY sort of effect on the Rockets winning this game was "delusional."

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    8. He had 6 points and 4 assists to which 3 assists where 3 pointers and hen the game was still close so yes he did help the team win in 4th quarter. He played poorly in the 1st half.

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    9. Janelin7, I think that Lin starts out slow because teams are constantly shifting their traps on him.

      It takes a few probing passes (often turnovers) and a few missed shots for Lin to determine what kind of scheme opponents are defending him with.

      But once the 2nd half rolls around, Lin and the Rockets coaching staff start dissecting those opponents. By the 4th quarter, Lin attacks because he knows where the traps are coming from.

      Against teams that Lin has already played earlier this season, Lin attacks early and hard even if the traps come. And against teams that don't trap him in the midrange, Lin attacks early and usually has the Rockets out of harm's reach by halftime.

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    10. Instead of giving me gobbledygook, go rewatch the game and repost with a timeline showing where Lin's assists and points were a game changer. The Rockets were already leading in the fourth without Lin. He came back, went crazy, but it was meaningless. What about the blood streaming down his head? You must have forgotten he played like a high schooler and and turned leads into deficits. What about his knee? So his knee was a problem when he played poorly in the first three quarters and all of a sudden his knee is fine in the fourth quarter. Lin's effect on this game was minimal to none. You serious need psychiatric attention. Medications are not doing you any good.

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    11. Asa. haters like you hate Lin and his fans.

      I'd suggest medication for you, but no medication can cure you of hate for Lin and his fans.

      I'll do what Magic Johnson used to do when haters like you criticized players like him and Lin: point to the SCORBOARD.

      The Rockets ALL played great because they WON. You are not happy with that because you hate Lin and his fans. That must hirt you badly.

      I'll also rub salt in your wound by saying that with every game that Lin keeps winning, it's another positive step for Asian American success in society.

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    12. Who are you to speak for Lin's fans. You're just one of many fans that happens to be excessively delusional. Who you think you are, the messiah. You're the only douchebag here. Now you say the "Rockets ALL played great because they WON." Why a sudden change in tone? Now you're not attributing the Rockets win to just Lin anymore but ALL Rockets player? You make Asians look bad fool. Stop representing dickwad.

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    13. @Asa Bojangles,

      I agree with you, but the folks here will take everything and put a positive spin on it. And when things aren't going well, they'll lash out by blaming everyone (mostly James Harden, Kevin McHale, and Kelvin Sampson, and even Lin's good buddy Parsons) but Lin himself. Trying to make sense of any of it is an exercise in futility.

      Point blank, Lin hasn't played well the past couple of games. Period. I don't care what anyone says. And no, he wasn't being "double and triple teamed." LOL.

      Luckily, the great thing about the NBA is that there's another game tonight and let's hope he plays well for an entire game.

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    14. Shut up, RACIST.

      You condemn the actions of an entire race of Asians because I alone am pissing you off. That clearly indicates you are a RACIST.

      I don't know what ethnicity you are, but you have no need to hate Asians. No race's success is an affront to any other's. You need to ask yourself why you hate Lin so much and especially his fans.

      And as far as the Rockets go, I only care about who actually won the game. You can't handle that, that's YOUR problem.

      NonAsian racists like you love to come here and flame Asians. But you must understand that there are very few of you here because we Asians will EMBARRASSS racists like you, just like I am doing right now.

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    15. TVN,I am SO GLAD to see you!!!

      I knew you'd come back to indulge in racial self hate of Asians by siding with the racists against other Asians like yourself!

      Self hating Asians like you love to agree with racists like Asa who condemn Asians. You have proved my point BEAUTIFULLY.

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    16. BUTTHURT. I'm Asian and I just owned you fool. You don't represent Asians cause you're a damn wacko so GTFOH. And as far as the Rockets go, the team won the game, GOT THAT. Give credit where credit is due. IT'S COMMON SENSE. No ifs ands or buts.

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    17. Question. What did Asa or TVN do or say to be labeled a racist? I re-read what he posted and that's just their opinion on Lin's play. I don't see evidence to label them hater or racist. Both Asa and TVN appreciate Lin's play. I also think while Lin's 4th quarter play was impressive on many levels those plays were not "crucial" plays having direct impact on Rockets' win. I would say Lin's plays during 4th quarter helped to pad Rockets' lead, but in all likelihood, Rockets would have won anyway. Perhaps Lin's injury inspired other Rockets to kick ass -- that, I don't know. All I know is Lin has to be more consistent in his offense. Jeremy, just go ahead and take 15 shots per game (open 3s, short and mid jumpers and driving layups -- you are good enough.

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    18. Asa, better not to argue. Just keep on posting because some people do appreciate your posting your independent thoughts. We can appreciate Lin's play without thinking he played well all the time or he is a Michael Jordan. He is the Lin with his weaknesses and strengths. I think he knows the improvements he has to make to get to the next level.

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    19. Finally someone (TVN) here talking some sense. For crying out loud I'm about to find where that Huang mental midget lives and lasso his sorry ass to the psychiatric hospital.

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    20. eb5attorney you nailed it man.
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      Question. What did Asa or TVN do or say to be labeled a racist? I re-read what he posted and that's just their opinion on Lin's play. I don't see evidence to label them hater or racist. Both Asa and TVN appreciate Lin's play. I also think while Lin's 4th quarter play was impressive on many levels those plays were not "crucial" plays having direct impact on Rockets' win. I would say Lin's plays during 4th quarter helped to pad Rockets' lead, but in all likelihood, Rockets would have won anyway. Perhaps Lin's injury inspired other Rockets to kick ass -- that, I don't know. All I know is Lin has to be more consistent in his offense. Jeremy, just go ahead and take 15 shots per game (open 3s, short and mid jumpers and driving layups -- you are good enough.

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    21. I am happy that Mac at least doesn't bench Lin for having had an awful 3 quarters of offense. Yes, Lin did play good D on Jennings and played good 4th quarter which helped -- but was not crucial -- to Rockets' win.

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    22. Oh. so you are another SELF HATING RACIST ASIAN who hates on your own race because of what I did.

      Jeremy Lin has been PUNKING YOU, winning all those games and driving you mad with anger.

      Bud, you don't have to like Lin or his game. Nobody here has a problem with that.

      Lots of you self hating Asians, Asa and TVN, just cannot stand the fact that people of ALL color see good in Lin's game especially in a win like this. This is the NBA and winning can be UGLY, especially when thw Rockets face a GOOD team like the Bucks.

      Of course,neither of you give a hoot about Lin and his undeniable winning ways dating back to last season. You are here just to flame Lin and especially his Asian fans.

      Self haters like you and TVN are the ones who are truly giving Asians a bad name.

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    23. Huang just shut the hell up. You don't make sense even if you tried. You are a deranged individual who's probably locked up in the basement somewhere by your parents and has access to jeremylin.net and kukluxklan.com. You fantasize about Lin all day and night. You masterbate with Lin's bobblehead in your hands. You're only clothing is a number 7 rockets jersey and trunks. You steal Lin's feces and eat for breakfast and dinner. What else...more to come.

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    24. Asa, it's better not to argue with anyone. There are many types of Lin fans. Labeling someone a hater and racists is a very unwise thing to do and is unnecessary. The fact that Lin brought many types of posters to post on him should be used as a positive thing to understand and respect each other, not to damn people. If everyone thought the same, we would not need this forum.

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    25. eb5 I thought Mac would bench Lin too, but he's definitely turning heads in the way he treats Lin now. More respect to Mac.

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    26. eb5 ok man. I'll stop just for you. I'm tired too arguing with that dimwit.

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    27. It was "Enter the Lin" instead of "Enter the Dragon". He showed that Harvard skull is tougher than others. I think other players probably respect Lin more for his toughness.

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    28. Enter the Lin, LOL. That dragon looked pretty tight. I Lin is a pretty boy but he's tough as nails. No agruing there.

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    29. OK. this Asa guy would be SCARY if I weren't USED to dealing like people like him.

      I post an innocuous comment targeting NO ONE, and this Asa guy starts calling me "delusional" and hating on Asians. Now he wants to hunt me down and lock me up.

      Uh huh.

      TONS OF FOOLS have threatened me like that before. It's all a bunch of insane keyboard warrior garbage. And make no mistake, I'm nothing more than a keyboard warrior too. I'm no better than anyone else here.

      So I don't know what Asa's agenda is. All I originally posted was that I'm happy for Lin's winning ways and it sets all these Lin haters ON FIRE??

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    30. By the way, I enjoy willywilly's postings also. His summaries show that he considered many items and arrived at a very reasonable summary.

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    31. OK eb5attorney.

      When you and Asa come down to hunt me down and "lock me up", I'll have some food waiting for you guys.

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    32. Ha, ha, I don't know about Lin being a pretty boy (he certainly seems to be a mama's boy), but he is definitely a good guy who is tough mentally. Tremendous respect to Lin for even having made this far.

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    33. even on internet no need to call ppl 'delusional' in their face no matter how right you think you are. it is just plain rude. try doing that in your real life and see how well it goes.

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    34. Linsanity was about winning, so this is what I expected a JLin co-lead team to achieve.

      JLin helps run a system to its potential. I think any coach can benefit from a PG like JLin who can execute the game plan and lead teammates to do the same.

      The pace of improvement in team chemistry is what has surprised me. I felt that it would take at least until the end of the season or maybe two seasons for Mr Beard and JLin to become familiar and comfortable playing off of each other. The way the are playing off of each other right now is certainly a pleasant surprise.

      I have especially noticed the pick and roll game with Harden setting the pick for JLin. JLin has been able to blow by his man with the help of the pick. Other times their man would switch and JLin delivers the pass to JlLin for the mismatch. In the MIL game I think I saw the first time Harden actually rolling to the basket. JLin of course delivered him the ball. Beard easily drew the foul on the roll. This backcourt pick and roll can be devastating, especially when JLin's shot improves and JLin start learning to set picks.

      We already know JLin is an elite athlete with elite leadership, a rare combination for superstars especially those at such a young age. Chemistry is a two way street and with that in mind I have been similarly impressed with Harden. What I have been impressed with is that Harden has exerted the effort to control and limit that (young) superstar tendency to try to win games by himself.

      I have seen Harden falling into that trap and in the process failing to trust and leverage his teammates' skillsets. It is understandable in light of the fact that he is a young player trying to establish himelf. He may also be concerned with aiming to meet the performance objectives which when met will result in bonus pay. He is also a heck of an offensive threat and I am sure he knows that. Fortunately, he also seems to be turning the corner and has in the past few weeks shown the maturity to be willing to work with JLin and play more team oriented basketball.

      The exciting thing is that (one of) the best backcourt(s) in the NBA is doing this despite JLin's weak areas like shooting and Harden's issues with traps and defensive effort. Give them a year or two to gel with teammates, for teammates to synch with their games, and for Asik to develope his offensive game (he has thrown some alley-oops down recently) watch out!

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    35. Harden's weaknesses are Lin's strengths, and Lin's strengths are Harden's weaknesses.

      Les Alexander is one SMART basketball man, having put these two NBA studs together.

      Together, the Hardliners are an incredible duo.

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    36. Questions: you guys can criticize, we can't criticize others? For example hrden, for example Mchale? When we do that, we are blaming them? We bashing them? When you do that to Lin you are being objective and point out the truth? What is this double standard you are creating? It's not just one side that callIing the name. You who saying others calling you named also end up calling other names. Look how many names calling giving to Lin fans on this site. You think delusional, fanatic is better than call racist and hater? You think Being called blind is better than racist and hater? Don't do the same if you don't like it this way too. Just remember while you think you are right, other thinks the same.

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    37. I meant to say Criticize Lin*.

      I Also want to point out, there are people who are really good at pointing out lin's flaws in the game and people on this site have no problem with that and they agree. Wonder why? Because they know how to talk, how to put words down. Though they also crictize Lin in his game, but no one will think they are bashing Lin or think he is a hater because people feel the sincerity lies underneath the words. We all need to do self-criticism sometimes. Btw. This is not preach to you, just my observation and thoughts on this site.

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    38. *scratches his head*

      You guys make it sound like Rockets were 30pts ahead of Bucks coming into 4th. They were ahead by 5 points, wtf is this baseball? With a full quarter ahead it was anyone's game.

      If you think Lin's 6 points and 3 steals which two converted taking away potential points for Bucks, as well as key dishes to Delfino (5pts), Patterson (3pts), Harden (3pts) didn't disrupt Bucks offense and help put the game away, y'all must be watching a different game than I am. Its one thing to be critical, but to blatantly say Lin did not contribute to the win in 4th is complete bullshit.

      Also, be only critical of Lin and not point out the fact that THE WHOLE TEAM played like garbage, scoring 11pts in 2Q until the last 2 minutes, yeah that was entirely Lin's fault, its not because Bucks got their shit together and played great offense and defense at the time, let's give credit where its due. Ask Harden how well he was being defended, and he'll tell you about his 0 points 1 assist during that period.

      And if you guys don't think Lin was instrumental to Rockets winning streaks, feel free to go follow CP3 where you can drool over CP3 all day.

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    39. And yes this people are going to look at positives, or "look at anything and put a positive spin" when its about Lin. We KNOW he isn't perfect, but we know he has potential, so we look for signs of improving, what's wrong with that?

      Its ok to be critical, Lord knows I talk smack about Lin when he isn't doing well, I'm sure Willy can tell you how much he loves me nitpicking on JLin's TOs :)

      But hey we're all Lin fans, let's just agree to disagree sometimes :)

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    40. Meanwhile Jeremy is obviously changing attitudes over at CF

      http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=231697

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    42. BTW:

      If Lin was not playing for the Rockets - would Rockets have won so many games? Again - it is my oppinion that Asa Bojangles is yet another hater in disguise! One of those retards who keep comming here using different screennames to bash on Lin. Probably just a loser who wishes he was an asian with a college degree.

      You guys notice that these people usually have brand new accounts that says nothing at all?

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    43. saying you are Asians didn't do any better, even worst. I seen even some nonasians sound more logic and reasonable than the self-claim asians do. Can some of you get the problem straight ? Positive fans like us totally have no problem with you criticize Lin. It's a matter of how you did it. Btw, Asa, please take those nasty words you said toward Khuang somewhere else. I never seen anyone like you talk to anyone here in that form of words. You making this site really low class and dirty.

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  22. It would be good for this forum to have an "ignore" button so people who don't like each other don't have to read their posts. :)

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    1. You are one guy I WOULD NOT use the "ignore" button, eb5attorney.

      I respect you and your basketball knowledge. This forum would not be as good for me if I couldn't read and ADMIRE your posts.

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    2. Your posts would be more enjoyable to read if you stopped calling people racists and haters. My tendency is to try to sympathize and understand. Perhaps due to your own experience, you tend to jump to conclusions, but I really do not see Asa or TVN as racists or haters. They actually appear to appreciate Lin's qualities. I would even go as far to say no one who is a true hater or racist will follow this forum for very long time. I also look forward to the day when more Asian-American NBA players will make this kind of Lincentric forum unnecessary.

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    3. I also know that you HATE MY GUTS and think you're BETTER THAN ME.

      I also know that you don't respect ANY of my views and will take every opportunity to flame me.

      We will never agree on anything because you feel superior to me. But I still like and respect you anyway.

      You'll keep coming at me, and I'll keep retaliating.

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    4. When fools like Asa say that I am making "all Asians" look bad, that's RACISM to condemn an entire group of people based on one person's action.

      You agree with Asa on that.

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    5. Ha, ha. No, you are superior to me in NBA basketball knowledge, as are many other posters here. But I do think I know who has what it takes to make it to the top in any sports. I believe Lin has the mental fortitude to do it. I try to focus on what improvements Lin has to make it to the top; this is why I am often critical of him, because I do believe that he has what it takes. However, I am not 100% sure how fast he can improve certain aspects of his game.

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    6. Correction. Not in "any sports", just in some sports I follow.

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    7. I don't know where Asa said that you are making "all Asians" look bad? Cut and paste his comments please.

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    8. You are TOTALLY WRONG that people will not follow this forum if they are anti Asian.

      Lots of people are personally invested in seeing Lin fail, for various reasons. This forum serves as a place where they can vent their anger against Asians in a public anonymous setting.

      And as far as having more Asian American pro athletes go, I don't see why that would eliminate the need for this forum. There are plenty of basketball fans like me who follow Lin because of his game, not his color. I'd be following Lin if he were any other color, just like I followed Jimmy Jackson and Omar Samhan because of their game and not their race.

      I like Lin because I think he's a truly dominant basketball player in the NBA as far as winning goes. If that makes me "delusional" as you and Asa and TVN say, SO BE IT.

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    9. I DO NOT agree with your assessment that I have more basketball knowledge than you do, eb5attorney.

      I don't lnow what it takes to get to the top of the NBA either, eb5attorney. In fact, I have openly wrotten that I am not sure that I could even truly say who the "top" players in the NBA really are, and that includes my idol Tim Duncan.

      All I know is that when it comes to winning games, Jeremy Lin is doing everything he can in the limited context of his team and role. I'm NOT expecting him to play like some sort of "superstar" (whatever that is), I'm simply appreciating him as he is, faults and all.

      I don't really care what Lin does in the future. I don't truly care what stats Lin gets. I REALLY don't care what people think of him. I don't even care what I myself think of Lin!

      I like Lin because he seems to play the game right. That's all for me.

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    10. "You make all Asians look bad, fool".

      Go read that yourself, eb5attorney.

      And if you agree with that, that speaks volumes about YOU.

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    11. I think Asa said the below content in response to your calling him a hater and racist of all Asians. I think what he meant was that your calling everyone who does not love Lin 100% a racist and hater makes you IN HIS OPINION look bad for all Asians. That's my take on this thing. This is what happens when you resort to name calling -- it just leads to inflammatory stuff.

      "Who are you to speak for Lin's fans. You're just one of many fans that happens to be excessively delusional. Who you think you are, the messiah. You're the only douchebag here. Now you say the "Rockets ALL played great because they WON." Why a sudden change in tone? Now you're not attributing the Rockets win to just Lin anymore but ALL Rockets player? You make Asians look bad fool. Stop representing dickwad."

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    12. For myself, I wish Lin plays well and reaches the All-star level, because when he plays badly, it's boring. Anyway, I really wish Rockets get to the playoff this year, so we can watch Lin play under the playoff setting.

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    13. Also, I said during the pre-season, that Lakers looked really disjointed and did not impress me at all. Many posters laughed at me saying that preseason games did not matter, but what I saw during their preseason game against Utah was that they did not show any fire and other players were not really in tune with Kobe. I also do not see a very tightly-knit atmosphere with Rockets akin to OKC. Not sure about other teams.

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    14. Well, I don't agree with his opinion.

      You can agree with his opinion if you want. I'm not your judge, jury, executioner, or gatekeeper.

      I am here to talk basketball. But race cannot be left out of the basketball equation when it comes to Lin and the social response people have for Lin.

      Had Asa kept his trap shut, there would have been no race fighting on this thread. HE started it, and you added to it.

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    15. You can argue that preseason does matter, eb5attorney.

      And if that were the case, Kevin Martin is having a brilliant season for the Rockets!

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    16. Heh this isn't a forum, its a blog being used like one because of the sheer amount of attention it gets.

      With that said, huge props to JLinFan#1/via for keeping us spoiled brats going :)

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    17. Funny how certain party poopers always asume that the world of Lin fans is just waiting for their 3000 word assessment of Lins game.

      OH WAIT - EB5ATTORNEY hasnt spoken yet. We may not yet cheer for our boy. Lets wait and look up to the sky. eb5attorney is comming to bless us with his basketball knowledge!

      They act like people here are dumb and need to be enlightened for some reason. That says alot about their mental status already. Why dont they assess their life and mental health instead of acting like people need to be entlightened?

      FIY: eb5attorney you symphatize with Asa Bojangles who claimed JLin was meaningless and useless in yesterdays game. You claimed to enjoy his posts...

      He is clearly a racist and a hater who seeks to annoy fans here...

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    18. Willydilly,

      Asa Bojangles and Edison Varejo are the same person. Both with Spanish names. Both claimed to be Asian (Bullshit). They are trolls.

      Khuang,

      Next time don't fall for these lowlifes.

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    19. There is a pattern here, as soon as someone called a hater or racism, their defense was I am Asian or half Asian. Bullshit! Don't fall for that shit!

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    20. I really do try to ignore the lowlife, alcsd, but they TARGET ME.

      I have an Asian screenname. That brings out the worst in anybody who hates Asians.

      However, I'll stand up to anybody. Doesn't matter how big they pretend to be. I'm Asian and PROUD OF IT.

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  23. He will be back with the 3rd Spanish name and someone claims to be Asian will do his darnest to fuel fire.

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