Friday, January 18, 2013

Rockets @ Pacers Game #41 Game Thread

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  1. i have league pass but does anyone have a stream where the video stays on the announcers during commercial breaks?

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  3. harden is the true pg. he's directing the offense, telling lin what to do....doesn't that bug you guys?

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  4. Asik needs to wake up and catch the freakin ball.

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  5. now that parson's is playing well, lin's going to play like crap.

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  6. Good, Hibbert sitting with two fouls already.

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    1. Your dynamic George is doing pretty good so far.

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  7. Damn, JLin got me looking at Parsons but the ball ended up with Harden. Mr. Magic Lin.

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    1. He had a mid range jumper before that steal, too. Would have been nice if that was an assist to cap it off.

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  8. What's up with the repeated carelessness.

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  9. Ah love that mid-range jumper. Do it mor Lin; just do it.

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  10. Three point D has to improve.

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  11. Nice look on the cut by Parsons

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  12. McHale looks gaunt. He's probably under tremendous pressure now.

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  13. JLin using more high passes instead of bounce passes to Asik this game.

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    1. Welcome Jason. Hope you enjoy posting and reading.

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    2. Thanks John, looking forward to sharing my frustrations :)

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    3. welcome jason! Expect a lot of knee jerk reactions during game threads (especially from me, ha!).

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    4. Thanks K, I'm sure to join in.

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  15. Asik still can't finish at the rim and Harden went greedy again and lost the ball.

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  16. But fek, Lin should have had at least 2 more assists!

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  17. it feels like the rockets are just waiting for harden to light it up. they're playing tentatively.

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    1. I would like to see Harden get benched before Lin does.

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    1. I told you that will be an interesting match up between George and Parsons.

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  19. Looks like the refs are calling in favor of Paces tonight. Lin got replaced by Beverly after committing the palming violation call.

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    1. Interesting that McHale chose to go with Beverly over TD who usually sub in during this time for Lin. Is he falling out of love with TD?

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  20. ugh lin...carrying your dribble??????

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  22. Wow Beverly ahead of Douglas...
    Douglas on the trading block?

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    1. I've said it from the start, that they were building Douglas's trade value by giving him Lins minutes. And now with Beverly in the game, playing more minutes than the rookies its making sense.

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    2. You've got the rookies which aren't much value, then you have only really Patterson, Douglas and Delfino that would be valuable trade assets, and I'm sure they would prefer to keep Patterson as back up PF, Delfino as the sixth man.

      If Douglas was to go it would be a PG in Douglas plus some other pieces and picks for a team that has a deep rotation at the 4 and lacking in the PG position...

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  23. Turnovers. Turnovers. Same 'ol story. When are they gonna cut it out.

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    1. McHale is signing this to TD, I'm all out of love I can't wait to forget you. Beverly is my guy and you're now long long gone.

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  24. Smith! The Pacers are not your teammates! Don't throw it to them!

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  25. Beverly with a nice steal, but couldn't finish on the other end. His first miss so far every since he got some minutes.

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  26. I hope rockets keep losing so that mcfail gets the boot.

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  27. Who said harden is not selfish?

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  28. Harden is continuing from 2 nights ago and keep on shooting and missing from 3 point land. Committed 2 TO's so far. Beverly is hustling all over the court. Almost attempted a save.

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  29. At this points, the Roxs can make any team look good.

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    1. Yeah its disappointing.
      Delfino and Harden don't play defense and are shooting bricks, get them off the floor.

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  30. Why is the beard jacking up contested shots?!

    He is really struggling. Be more aggressive and take it in the lane!

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    1. His trying to live up to the superstar status, and trying to make incredible plays for the highlight reel.

      His getting paid 4 times Lin and anyone else, he should be playing 4x better!

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    2. All Star Voting is done for so he shouldn't be padding his stats. For those who predicted that he is doing this to get into the ASG it doesn't seem that way.

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  31. Not a good 1st quarter for the Rockets. They are down by 13 again and playing catch up again. This is beginning to be a trend for the young Rockets. Teams are figuring them out or shall I say, putting more D on Harden and he is struggling deciding what to do when he is D up or not getting fouled.

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  32. If McHale get fired, Sampson will take over and it will be even more worst. Lol

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    1. Trade McHale and Sampson for D'Antoni? :)

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  33. Paul George scored as much as the entire Rox. Somebody gotta put some D on that guy. Parsons won't be able to do it.

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  34. This is become unbearable to watch.

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  35. Interesting lineup now. No Harden or Lin on the floor and McHale chose to go with Beverly and bench players except for Parsons who is still out there. Beverly hasn't missed from 3 point land.

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  36. JLin not starting the second quarter?

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  37. 1. Kelvin Sampson is terrible, he is Keith Smart 2.0 with the prejudice. McHale should not leave if the next option is Sampson.
    2. Chandler Parsons is TERRIBLE on defense. In fact, among the Rockets starters Parsons has the worst adjusted +/- and it's not close.

    3. I like this new kid Patrick Beverly. He has very fast hands on defense, seems to play good D (as opposed to fake-looking good D by Tony Douglas).
    Beverly is not a ball hog, he looks to set up other players. You can also tell the kid is psyched to finally make it to the NBA, he looks like a team player, high energy guy, good defense and a good outside shot.

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  38. Lin will be harmed with this new team's rotation Houston
    because Harden will always be in court with Lin

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  39. Beverley is playing really well out there... I'm seriously worried about Jeremy Lin.

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    1. If Bev doesn't turn the ball over, he's gonna play even more.

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    2. Beverley is not playing any differently to Lin when he's on the court with Harden. He only looks good without Harden hogging the ball.

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    3. Anyone with eyes (well it means except McHale) can see Harden is the problem, not Lin.

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  40. This team affects our life to much..
    Because they are not playing good basketball

    The system now is not same than just the early weeks they struggled to much
    I think mchale should try lin to take 20 shots a game then we will see if lin can really
    dominate without harden

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  41. I think Houston lives too much by the 3 point ball. They just shot two back to back 3 pointers and is within 8 points again. The box score said Beverly has 2 steals.

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    1. I think the shooting is fine, the TOs are what's killing them. Carelesness.

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    2. And the no D on top of the TO are killing them. Also, Harden taking too many shots and not making them and not swinging the ball around to other teammates.

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    3. I'm sure there is some grand plan here,,, because what the coaches are doing is not making sense to me...
      Maybe McHale has conceded from the start that we aren't going to win this and resting the starters in prep for tomorrow?

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  42. Lance just turned the corner on Beverely quite easily.

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  43. Beverley too selfish going one on one.

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    1. Yeah his playing to prove something

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  44. Beverley trying to take the charge in open court. What was he thinking? Bad foul.

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  45. Lin's again blamed for Harden's problems. Somehow it's Lin's fault that Harden is not playing team ball.

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  46. Are they gonna trade Lin and let Beverley be the starter? Poor Lin! They sign u is just for marketing.

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    1. Highly doubt that Lin will be traded, I read somewhere that Les Alexander WANTED Lin. One of his only directives.

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    2. They going to trade TD because somehow he is not getting the minutes anymore.

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  47. Lin is back in with Asik, Delfino, Parsons and Morris.

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  48. Asik has no court awareness at all just like Delfino.

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  49. Asik's 360-spin ballet layup is the best in the NBA! :)

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    1. Next season he'll turn it to 360-spin dunk!

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    2. Second coming of Tony Parker!

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  50. Patterson can't finish, but Asik has been responsible for the last 6 points by getting offensive rebounds and putting it in the hole.

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    1. Beautiful ball movement by this starting lineup there. Lin-Patterson-Harden-Patterson-Asik!

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  51. Lin needs to start driving to the basket early.

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  52. I wish Lin plays more than 30 seconds without Harden. Anyone would look bad standing on the court watching Harden go one on one.

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    1. Thats true, Lin runs it up Harden plays ISO, and lately Harden misses. Boring and predictable.

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  53. 6 minutes into the second and JLin has one shot attempted? Am I reading this right?

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    1. One attempt for the whole game. Zero attempt for the second quarter.

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    2. But he is 100% shooting! :D

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    3. He is probing at this point. He wants to see what the defense is giving him and how to attack later on.

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  54. What was Parson's thinking, Harden was right there, but Harden would have missed it.

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  55. Wow.

    L6?

    Getting dominated by Paul George.

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  56. I'm going to stop threading now, watching this is making me want to hang myself! :)

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    1. Harden is going to record a 6-32 FGM-A...

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    2. Lin was cheated 2 assists. One from Asik and one from Parsons I believe.

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    3. And one from Harden, who missed the layup, but he did get a little push.

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  58. Finally...Do 20 more of those treys Lin!

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  59. McHale needs to let Lin stay in the game when he's heating up with 5 straight points.

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  60. Lin should have dunked that layup. Show some explosiveness.

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    1. I don't think his fully recovered. But a dunk from Lin would have get the team pumped!

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  61. Lin is trying to get 100% FG tonight lol

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  62. I think Jeremy Lin don't have the confidence to play his game
    he just try to let people see and those lovers of james harden and mchale system what would be without him.
    He don't even make a shot for himself.

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  63. Lin with a nice stretch there. Bringing the Rockets back!

    Parsons needs to read the scouting reports. You don't challenge Paul George one on one.

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    1. What I find is that Lin will get on a mini stretch then when they're close again, they revert back to Harden and of late Harden can't close.

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    2. That's what JLin fans here have observed for quite some time now. Unfortunately...

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  64. As I posted with the stats in the previous thread, Lin is still not playing efficiently as compared to CP3. He is spending too much energy running around and not taking enough shot attempts. His minutes played are piling up and it is not a good sign when you log that many minutes.

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    1. You have to look at how the team s playing JLin.

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    2. So you are saying they are playing CP3 differently than they are playing Lin or are they playing Kyrie Irving differently? Stats really don't lie. It tells me something when he has the most minutes played and not scoring at the same and also not attempting alot of FG's and FT's.

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    3. lol dude cp3 is the best point guard in the league....of course lin isn't playing as efficiently as cp3. that's not a knock on lin..

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  65. Wow Asik actually set a decent pick that time.

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  66. Good to have Beverley, is that now LIN for 30 min to do your best basketball

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    1. Would love to see then team not have to rely on Lin and Harden for 40mins per game, if Beverley decides to pass first then this should take the pressure of Lin-Harden.

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  67. Harden is beginning to heat up. Made a 3 pointer and a 2 pointer. Houston is down by 5 points.

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  68. Harden said" I don't give a shit win or lose
    ,I need to get my stats ,that's it!

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    1. Thats it, he wanted that 25pt streak and I'm happy he didn't get it, but now its going to be a 20pt streak...

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    2. And pretty soon the 15pt streak...

      Then the 10pt streak...

      Hahaha....

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  69. Paul George is out playing Parsons. It seems that at this rate it might be George's team and not Grainger. Pacers might look to trade Grainger.

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  70. They've got to keep the ball away from George.

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    1. HOU managed to slow down Pacers big men with team defense but unfortunately, PGeorge and Hill just hit their 3PTs. Hopefully they cooled down in the 2nd half.

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    2. So far Asik is not such a klutz this game. He has managed to deter and block some shots and got some offensive rebounds to help out.6 offensive and 6 defensive. He is even keel.

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    3. Unfortunately, 3 pt shooters are left open because the perimeter players have to help them out. The Pacers bigs are shooting ok percentage still so far. I think that's the inside out game that the Rocks tried to implement.

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  71. Phew...missed dunk by Pacers on the fast break right before the half.

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  72. harden and lin attacking the rim on occasion but not getting any calls!!

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  73. Harden is having a terrible first half at 4 for 13 and two turn overs.

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  74. 4/13 for Harden but it's Lin's fault that he doesn't space the floor enough for Harden, right? When will Harden learn to go iso less if he doesn't have it going? He's playing like Kobe in selfish mode.

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    1. To his credit, he decided to run down the clock but finally passed to Patterson who missed the 3PT. I thought he'll launch a 3 for sure!

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    2. me too. I was surprised he passed it up and gave it to PPat who was surprised himself and missed the shot.

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    3. 2Pat is just cold today.

      Well at least he is 4/13 so far, not 5/23 last game. I'd be happy if he does 10/22.

      Hoping JLin gets 8/15 today.

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    4. He is struggling, but I like that the Beard is taking it into the lane when his shots are no falling.

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  75. Rockets issues:
    1. Terrible 3-point defense. They always leave their man, run to double the inside paint player (which does nothing to help defensively) and there are multiple guys open to drain 3 pointers.

    2. On offense, Harden DOES NOT need to touch the ball every freaking time on a possession. Their game plan is Lin dribbles to half court, gives to Harden, almost never gets the ball back.

    3. Someone should do an analysis of Rocket's win/loss compared to Lin's usage% that game. Usage measures how much a player gets to do something with the ball as a percentage of possessions. I would bet the Rockets win most of their games when Lin has a high usage rate, and the Rockets lose when Lin has a usage below 20% or 25%.

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    1. Throw out the SAS game so the only other games you have are the Bulls game, the Knicks game and probably the Detroit game earlier in the season.

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    2. 1. Hahaha paul george killing parsons/patterson/anyone sent to defend him
      2. For 80m yes he does...Well according to Morey anyway
      3. Hrm I'll dig up something

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  77. This trend of falling behind during the 5 games losing streak is not a good trend vs the streak where the Rockets were winning. During those stretch of games, the Rockets were mostly leading and scoring at a high clip.

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  79. God Harden is pissing me off.

    Fking ballhog Lin asks for the ball he ignores him. Parsons asks for the ball he ignores him run clock down and fking bricks.

    Suck ass.

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  80. Lin gifts Harden one and he stuffs it up.
    Starting to feel like Harden and Asik are purposely missing easy buckets to deny Lin the assist.

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  81. Just started watching in second half. First play I see is Harden ISO. Drive, shoots, ball bounces off the side of the glass.

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    1. Pretty much the whole game.

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    2. He runs down the clock and then dishes it out with 5secs left to leave the others to force up a bad shot.

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    3. Seriously, please do not put Asik in the game when Lin is on the floor. Asik is a retard under the rim. Can't catch, can't finish, can't box out, gives the other team so many 2nd and 3rd chances under the rim.. it's ridiculous.

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    4. I blame that on Ppat. He should have shot it or move in when the ball swung around. Instead he chose to stand at the same spot.

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    5. Harden coming alive during the last 5 seconds, a steal and a 4 pt play!

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  82. Sigh finally ball movement and Lin has to do his risky jump passes again. TO!

    BTW what happened to his "springiness training"? He was getting higher around december but now he is like flat.

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    1. TO is really because of Harden running down the shot clock and leaving Lin to make a play when there was no play to be made.

      If Lin was performing like Harden right now he would have been benched!

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    2. When there are two players under the rim, pull up would or floater would be a good option.

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  83. Would somebody alert Houston players to take the open shot instead of passing it around like the Harlem Globe Trotter. Also, Harden looks out of sync because he just committed another turn over.

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    1. No one wants to attack, scared shitless, until clock runs down and Lin drives and...Jump pass ugh :/

      L6 coming up.

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  84. I'm done with this game, so frustrating to watch, time to go swim a few laps and relax cya all in post game.

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  85. just wanted to bring this in about Jeremy's backup:
    Jonathan Feigen
    "Patrick Beverley expends more energy watching than some players do playing."

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  86. Lin needs to man up and take matters into his own hand. Stop passing to hopless asik and iso harden. Fuk'em coaches.

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    1. True, he should refuse to pass to Harden.

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  87. Jason Friedman
    As we've seen during this slump, Rox have rallied but been unable to get over hump. Got within 3 here in 3Q then TO bug returns, now down 10

    @foogaga_knicks Right, I forgot that Harden never passes to Asik. Jeremy is the only one.

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  88. Lol this team sucks...Ok really going to go swim this time.

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    1. Lol ballerina jump spin pass gets stripped...Go home Parsons :/

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  89. I like the way Rockets play. Fouls not called when they shoot but they still continue playing professionally.

    Asik is improving - before, he couldn't get the ball up, too slow but now he just throws the ball onto the glass hoping it'll drop in the ring. Once he tries to make sure the hail Marys turn into sure shots, he'll be awesome.

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  90. Finally something right from Harden but it was still a bad shot selection.

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  91. Lin just did a Harden. Dribbled away the shot clock and left Harden to pull up a last second 3.

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  92. Lin should've taken the jumper there. Stop being scared.

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  93. When will the owner start to fire people, when the losing streak is at least 10 or 15?

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    1. Not scared, just good help D by Hibbert.

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  94. Greg Smith 4 fouls in 10 minuets.. wow

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  95. Yeah! He is hot on shooting tonight !

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  96. Yes Harden's iso is bad. But sometimes you have to feel sorry for him and Lin, playing with such Rockets "big men" who manage to brick all of your assists even left unguarded.

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  98. Harden is really bad at defense. He has good straight line speed but looks like one of the worst at lateral movements while defending

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  99. You f'ing serious, Beverley in for Lin.
    Get Harden off!

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  100. Maybe the League is taking a look at Harden's drive and trickery and have told the referees to swallow their whistles when Harden does that move. He is not getting alot of foul called in his favor in this game.

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    1. i was thinking the same thing good

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    2. Harden is a one trick pony. Get to the top of the key and try to penetrate and draw a foul. Once you put a (big) body between the top of the key and the foul line, you take away Harden's penetration to the rim hence no foul calls.

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  101. Finally, Harden needs to be benched for the whole 4th quarter.

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  102. TO after TO, rockets offense are so predictable at this point. ISO harden to driving harden with traffic, to fumble asik layup. This really sucks, time to turn off the game and watch some Aussie open.

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  103. Rockets' big men- either bad hands (Asik), foul prone and bad at D (Greg Smith), soft at rebounding and couldn't make a shot (Patterson and Morris).

    If only you could combine all of them into one competent one...

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