"This is a winnable game as long as you protect the paint. If they can stop Paul and Al they can def win. I think Lin will have a good game tonight."
I guess I'm 3/3 in predictions :). HOWEVER, If you were going to tell me that Rockets would win by 45 I wouldn't have believed you. I almost typed that it was going to be an easy win if they stopped Al and Paul but I didn't want to be TOO optimistic. But wow. Incredible game by EVERYONE even the bench!
Lin did a terrible job in the defensive end. 5/5 from the field even though Asik took one out that was going in, and also gave Lin 1 of his 3 turnovers. Harden played great today, barely any ISOs and every played team ball. I just hope that this doesn't bring over-confidence to the team. There is still many things to improve on and get better at. I just hope we keep winning. I can't wait to see Lin in a playoff game!
:) It's the Asian tough love thing. Most of us are not trained to lavish praises in fear of Lin stopping to improve :)
It's absolutely great game to watch when all things just worked to perfection for Houston. Beyond the box score, Lin's confidence to direct offense and wreck havoc on defense was sky high after watching the last part of Linsanity movie last night! lol
From now on, he needs to watch his own Linsanity DVD before every game to remember what he could always perform!
Haha psalm234 I know right? The Asian tough love thing.
- if you did well you get a nod and no complaints - if you only did average you get razzed and compared to other Asian kids that are doing better than you - if you did bad, had an awful day etc., we make you wanna kill yourself
Jaja Well I'm not Asian but I can relate. lol... Chan and Psalms I was thinking the same thing. I think I put up a comment before the game hoping for Linsanity after he watched the end of the movie just hope he would have watched the same thing. I personally can't wait to watch it myself.
I don't play or encourage playing the lottery lol but I will definitively have my predictions for wednesday game. It's going to be a tough one lol
I'm in the process of breaking the cycles :) Found a good book on Words that Kids need to hear. So far I got to the first 2: 1. "I believe in you" 2. "You can count on me"
Both my kids' eyes just light up when I said that :)
Psalm234 , I'm guessing Jeremy heard those positive words a lot too from his parents. They were his foundation , so that when he went out there to battle all those racism , skepticism and unbelief , he stood his ground and did not waver.
And it's great of you relishing the same to your own kids. It's very important for kids to grow in a positive reinforcing environment. It's a breeding ground for success.
I read somewhere that a person absorbs about 2,000 negative messages in a day. On the other hand , the same person receives only about 20 positive messages in a day. Whoaa! That's a lot of difference. The sad part is , the negatives have become the "normal" and the positives have become the "natural" of life.
We have become so accustomed to the negatives that we do not even know how to react when showered with positives. We easily resort to false humility. (At least , for me , admittedly , I'm oftentimes guilty of that.)
In the real world , out there , people are quick to complain , criticize... but , so slow to appreciate.
In this site , at least , I see a balance of things. Posters with sound mind criticize Lin when they see things in his game that need to be improved. And yay! they also do not hold on to celebrate when Lin is pushing on all the right buttons in his game. Just like today... hahaha...
So , truth be told , I'm really enjoying this ride. :)
Very true, chan. For some reason, we're wired to easily criticize but it takes some effort to see positive things, even for ourselves. I've seen how damaging a guilt-driven thinking for people close to me.
"..whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is commendable, if there is any excellence, if there is anything worthy of praise, think about these things."
We ought to be constantly thinking of anything worthy to praise ourselves or our loved ones every day. You said it, positivity breeds success. It's not wrong to say, "We're good! Let's do more" ;>
I still can't believe idiot rockets fans from CF or realgm hou still say that lin has low bbiq. He's one of the smartest players on the team. Mcfail's even said he has a feel for the game, anticipates well, fundamentally sound o and d player. Even D'antoni's said this.
It's the one moron on RantSports. The dickless goons on CF are just recycling on delusional, limped up, internet troll-because-he-can't-get-attention-via-any-other-means' garbage.
Lin is such a team player who'll never get any credit from the Houston coaches, writers and stupid fans. For example, Lin sat after playing for 8 minutes in the 1st Q. At the time his stat line was something like 7 Pts, 5 Ast, 1 Reb, 1 TO. Then after Lin played 5 more minutes in the 2nd Q (for a total of 13 minutes PT at this point), the Rockets' lead increased by 9 more points. Lin didn't start the 2nd Q, but when he came out, during the 5 minutes stretch, Lin was was extremely active, playing D and hockey assisting. For all that, the ONLY THING that got added to Lin's stat was one(1) more TO !!! Meanwhile, his teammates' stats got fattened, especially Harden's.
When Lin rejoined the team after a few minutes in the 2nd Q, the Rockets lead by 6 points. They next 5 minutes with Lin, the Rockets had a 11-2 run. I had the boxscore page opened and was toggling back and forth watching on League Pass. After the five minutes, I wasn't curious anymore, so I closed the boxscore.... Right now I can't remember what Lin's exact stat line was after he played the first 8 minutes, but the point is, all his hard work in those 5 minutes NETTED him ONE turnover! It's almost funny. Hahahahaha. I'd just love to see Lin traded and help out another team big time! A lot of teams could use a good PG right now.
For anyone with enough patience/tolerance left to still give a rat's dick about Clutchfans, I am amused to report that in the "Jeremy Lin is a Joke" thread, Dei, Dudewah, and King1 are getting called out enough, and are witnessing the effects of what we've all been preaching in our own board enough that they're backtracking and pursuing a "chicken shit" strategy.
I remember from pages 50-200, King1, specifically, would just repeatedly make nonsensical remarks about Lin - not worth contract, not doing anything offensively, not doing anything defensively... blah blah blah, and really just throwing down statements like JLin is a bitch, fool, sucks, etc. Now he's going with a "I hate his fans more than him, blah blah blah, it's his fans (who are really there to just rebuke those who put undue blame on Jlin in the first place, cough King1, Dei, Dudewah, Nook, etc, cough) who make me do this, etc" and more of a "Jeremy is worth his contract, I would talk to other rational people, I'm not racist because I like Yao (which is literally the equivalent of Leonardo's character in Django Unchained claiming he's not racist because he likes Sam Jackson - his slave) so everyone else is an idiot despite me clearly singling out Lin and assigning all blame to him." Let's all relish in the Rox real win today, as well as us fans' much more silent win over dickbag trolls.
As of right now, it's really just Dudewah who can't lay off the random troll remarks; Dei's given up, despite claiming that he's fueled by "LOH"s as opposed to JLin's "average/subpar" play; King1 is back tracking like the world's biggest internet bitch - only because he was so irrationally arrogant any vocal before.
@JK, just ignore them. there are too many to count, there's some that pretend to like Lin but then all they do is lurk Lin threads and post s.hit, trying to put Lin fans in their place.
Bahahaha, Dudewah is pulling the same tail-behind-the-legs bs now too, talking about the legitimacy in Lin's play, and now saying it's okay to be his fan. I think we should be thankful of the Dec stretch, as it's apparently demonstrated something clearly enough for these monkeys - monkey because they've got lesser intellect, not making a racist jab.
LOL...thanks for the update. I actually don't know what they are saying due to the my huge ignore list...but someone usually quotes them later in response.
I think our JLin played solid, even though it was only fo rabout 25 min. Not sure if he was rested because he was limping; hopefully not too bad or it was just a rotation decision since we had the lead.
JLIN was aggressive on offensive end and defense as well. More often more aggressive on defense, which is also a good thing, since he always wants to helpout the team to win rather then personal stats.
If he had played, I think he could have easily had double-double or who knows triple as well.
The team as a whole did good in keeping the ball in move and JH had zero TO; and indeed that helped as well.
He completely destroyed the poor Jazz on both ends.
Lin tore their offense to shreds with his help defense, literally turning his back on nonscorers like Watson and Tinsley. He completely bottled up the Jazz passing lanes and forced the Jazz bigs into taking horrible shots.
Then on offense, Lin made the Rockets unstoppable. He set up all the other players for easy looks and got everybody involved. Even though the Jazz clearly were out to stop the secondary passes, they misjudged Lin's ability to penetrate and so he flew by guys all night. And for once, I was OK with Harden shooting as much as he did because the Jazz's insistence on closing out the shooters off Lin's passes meant that the court was wide open for Harden to attack whenever he wanted. Unfortunately, Harden was attacked repeatedly on defense. At least it didn't make a difference this game.
Watching Lin destroy the Jazz was like watching a Dream Team game, only it was an NBA team getting beaten on both ends by one guy instead of by five guys!
I agree 100%. From the very beginning of Q1, Lin took charge of the offense, didn't hesitate to shoot the long 2, asked for the ball from Harden when he saw opening, dominated on help defense suffocating the Utah bigs and daring Tinsley to make his 3PTs.
It's unreal how Utah's confidence just deteriorated when they can't get going with any offensive rhythm.
The announcers mentioned that other teams may also try to leave the Utah pgs unguarded in order to disrupt the post.
The problem with that is that it ONLY works with Jeremy Lin.
A guy like John Wall has athleticism equal to Lin's but not the court sense and anticipation. A guy like Chris Paul has the awareness but not the physicality to play that kind of defense.
Lin is a unique defensive talent at the pg position in today's NBA. I have been saying that he's the best defensive PG in all of basketball.
Well said, but his defense cant measure against some of the leagues best pg's. Like his strength cant match the speed of some pg's. Games against subpar .500 teams and below is expected for him to dominate. I really want him to excel against the top 4 seeds in each conference (ny is overrated). although his strength makes him more versatile in terms of who he can guard, I wouldnt say that makes him the best defensive PG.. thats a bit too much, but I would say he's a very special pg
don't worry, Rikki :) Lin can relate, he has an Asian dad after all ..haha, just kidding. I'm sure Lin's parents are full of encouragement after reading his book.
lol i see what you did there psalm234 but IMO McHale is worst than asian dad. What Lin did is more than enough to make any asian dad wept and sobbing in tears
Come to think about it, it has a good message for all dads not to be so "mean" to the kids and use Jeremy Lin's success as a measuring stick to love the kids. Poor KevJumba had to hit the wall and pushed down the lake for a good message.
Out of everything i could. Be excited of after this game is seeing Harden, Lin and teammates talking on tweeter. This game can have a big impact on chemistry and confidence on each other.
I think one reason Harden was able to co-exist with a fellow ball-hog like Russell Westbrook was that they're good friends off the court. There's a level of trust and cooperation between friends that's hard to come by when you're just "teammates."
All these guys are so young, too, so it's even more important to bond and develop chemistry both on and off the court. They play with their heart more than their head!
Jeremy Lin @JLin7 "@Ju_Smith4: Great win tonight. @JLin7 my brothers balled out" i dont acknowledge ppl who take creeper pics of me when i sleep on the plane
James Harden @JHarden13 @JLin7 @MookMorris2 haha yup. I don't have any either. You have to get jumped in. LoL
Chandler Parsons @ChandlerParsons “@Ju_Smith4: Great win tonight. @JHarden13 @JLin7 @MookMorris2 my brothers balled out” ouch...
Jeremy Lin @JLin7 "@JHarden13: @JLin7 lol sick goggles." Just tryin to fit in with you and @MookMorris2 lol. Does #teamfoe take new members without tattoos?
1h James Harden @JHarden13 @JLin7 lol sick goggles.
1h James Harden @JHarden13 #Schwaggggg RT @ChandlerParsons: Tonight shows what were capable of! Great team win. Holy @JHarden13 dunk. #vicious
1h James Harden @JHarden13 Great road win. Everyone played well. Now off to Denver! #Schwaggggg
1h Jeremy Lin @JLin7 AWESOME team win tonight...so fun to be a part of!! Dont ask me what im doin...haha. And @JHarden13 dunk?!? pic.twitter.com/WeeZuzSp
Have to read from bottom to top or you will get confuse lol. I love that part where Harden is replying to Lin's photo and the tattoo comment lol. I bet they were all hanging out and happy after the game.
Bec i didnt see the game live, i checked the scores and surprise!!blow out! Next i went to boxscore, jeremy 100% shooting! Terrific!then saw he only played 24mins?myBP started to go up but i went to the game thread and i calmed down.hahah.it was a blow out early in the game.the commander did his job early and deserves to rest (not bench). Reading the posts, it looked like most of the soldiers listened and obeyed the commander for the most part.thanks guys for your posts, you are like the commentaors but a million times better minus the sound and the hate against jeremy.now i know which part of the game i will watch later.
Nice to see the commander having fun last night.hopefully, his commanding duty continues from now on. This is how i want to see the commander play that makes me wanna watch him.Keep fighting the good fight, mr commander.
I just pledged $50 to the Linsanity movie project. Go J.Lin, it's your story that makes me proud to be Asian. My daughter is born in the year of the dragon just like you. I hope she will be inspired by your story as well when she grows up.
I think this game would have been closer if the Rockets didn't hit all those 3's.
But I love how Jlin is commanding the offense more and they've kind of gone back to what helped them get their winning streak back in December.
My question is what made them change back to their winning ways again? Also does this team ONLY have fun when they're winning? They seem like they have better chemistry when winning, what about when they're loosing? They need to build chemistry when they're loosing too, so that they continue to play at a high level even when things are not going their way.
I feel like if the game was close they would have resorted back to Harden ISO ball.
I don't think the game would've been any less of a blowout if the Rockets didn't hit 3s.
The Rockets with Lin in charge were simply way too quick for the slow Jazz on both ends of the court. Lin greyhounded the Jazz, and so did Harden to a much lesser extent.
The Rockets scored 120, which is a typical scoring night for them. What really knocked out the Jazz was Lin's defense. He singlehandedly destroyed the Jazz offense and knocked out all their rotation regulars with his help defense.
Some teams just match up poorly against others. The Rockets with specifically Lin are Utah's nightmare. It's just like how Lin's Rockets just can't seem to beat Portland because Nicholas Batum is too physically overwhelming for Houston's small forwards to deal with on both ends.
Rockets matched up well with utah because lin was free to help EVERY time the ball touches either millsap or jefferson. the bigs had to worry about omer's defense as well as pesky lin. that's a pretty irritating combo and the utah forwards never found their rhythm. lin was free to help because they don't have anyone that can shoot a jumper. so many time we saw tinsley wide open for three only to brick it. i thought the help defense decision making by lin was also tremendous - much better than earlier in the season. we saw that for the most part, lin's man is always on the weakside, more than 1 pass away, so he was free to help and when the ball leaves the hands of the big, get back to his man to prevent a 3. what utah should've done to adjust is to alway have lin's man one pass away on the strong side. that prevents lin from helping too aggressively. or at least make sure the bigs always knew where lin's man is.
rockets won't be able to do that with portland because portland has shooters, such as lillard. but then again, rockets are a bit more in-sync now on defense vs. earlier in the year, so as long as they know how to rotate on D when lin helps out on the bigs, then they should be okay.
What made them change back to their winning ways again?
Answer: Easy, Harden made the ASG reserves and Lin was left out, so no longer is there a need to downplay Lin to make Harden, the crown jewel defining Morey's GM career, shine.
Someone made a comment that McHale stopped shaving and couldn't look at the players in the eyes. Could it be that he was under Morey's directive to handicap Lin?
The idiocy of the whole thing is, Lin would've made Harden shine brighter.
@Khuang I agree about Lin's help defensive being a SIGNIFICANT reason why they blew out the Jazz but shutting down their All Star player Al Jefferson and sidekick Paul Millasap.
However, I think hitting all those 3 pointers was also a BIG impact on how the game was won. Which I believe was INFLUENCED by Jlin's taking control of the offense.
@fighton1999
Yes you're right that the Utah Jazz should have made that adjustment to make it tougher for the double team. I think they underestimated Jlin's EXCELLENT help defense skills, which reveals the stereotype and bias views they have on Jlin.
@John Lee
That's a probable hypothesis. I only hope they continue to see Lin's TRUE VALUE as a ALL-STAR CALIBER player.
I think it is as simple as the young Rockets learning that Lin really is there to facilitate them all.
The entire Rockets team is getting more shots and minutes than they have ever received in the NBA. Consequently, there have been many moments of distrust especially with the frontcourt not trusting Lin to feed them the ball. But I think that those issues are being worked out mainly to Lin's flexible leadership.
Those teammates are starting to realize that they can ALL succeed if they just let Lin lead them. Players like Lin who step onto an NBA court with the sole goal of winning games are very rare, and this minimum wage Houston team has realized who their leader is.
I see signs of Lin starting to wrest control of the team. Lin is a CHAMPION.
Starting to realize? Or forced to recognize by the staff's video viewing party 4 or 5 games ago. I've been reading and thinking more about this. I've been reading more about how Morey analyzes stuff. He doesn't use box scores. He hates them. His staff compiles their own stats. His technical comments about Lin's game in the past have been fully perceptive of what I (and many here) think Lin's strengths are. I would bet that Morey was behind the film breakdown and I don't think it's a coincidence that Lin's new demeanor on court, McHale's suddenly buddy-buddy attitude with him, and his teammate's willing deferring of the offensive to him have all happened since. I think this is a true watershed moment for the team and everyone understands perfectly Lin's value as the offense initiator.
This is all I wanted. Despite what CF thinks, most of us will be perfectly happy to have Lin run the offense and Rockets win games. As with Rondo, it may take a year or two to fully appreciate Lin, but it'll come. Everyone knows Jason Kidd controlled games despite not always putting up obvious stats, so there's precedent for recognizing this role. Some stretch Harden will be hurt and Lin will be forced to fill up the box score. They'll keep on winning. Winning gets attention and close analysis. Unexpectedly deep play-off runs do that too.
If I had to guess, I'd say the timeline and dynamics were:
1. Lin and Harden start out the year great and naturally. Lin took control of offense and things flowed. 2. McHale and Sampson interfered because of their biases and reigned in Lin, which reduced his mechanical effectiveness due to clear rules on how he was allowed to play, but also reduced his own confidence and undermined the respect his teammates had for him. 3. Lin got enough control to go on the winning streak. McHale and Sampson didn't really understand exactly why the winning streak was happening and reign in Lin again. 4. The team loses so much that they hit rock bottom. They are ready to hear the truth. Morey doesn't like to seem to be meddling, so until now he's only been offering subtle suggestsion. Maybe he analyazed his data in a new way or collected new data. Anyway, enough is enough, and he has his team cut up video. The team's watches, and it's impossible to ignore the difference when Lin is doing the majority of the playmaking.
Folks on CF are pretty dumb, so they can pretend all they want that it wasn't the staff's idea for Lin to cross half court and pass to Harden, but that's just not how it works. At any time, if Mchale didn't want that, he could have ordered it off. George Karl knew that. Calvin Murphy knew that. Everyone in the world knows that except a minority of Rockets "fans".
You know what strike me as weird? Seeing how HOU allowed Parsons, Patterson and Lin to take FOUR long 2PTs in the first 5 min of 1Q to take 13-6 lead (Harden made 1 layup and Lin and layup plus And-1. Utah only made 2 3PT-ers)
To me, it is a dramatic change for the old strategy of ONLY penetrate and find 3PT shooter. Often times, it caused HOU to trail by 10-15 pts behind in the 1st half.
If coaches are now willing to tweak their system to get open shots even if it means long 2PTs, it will only create more spacing to penetrate because the big men can no longer pack the paint to prevent only penetration.
Kudos to the coaches to finally do the right thing to incorporate long 2PTs to keep the defense honest by not packing the paint. Better late than never!
psalm234, I don't think it's weird because those shots are not forbidden just not preferred. It's inevitable during the course of a game long/mid 2s will be attempted. I think Patterson's baseline jumper is an effective one, especially when JLin penetrates and the defense collapses he has an outlet or kick out right there at his disposal. JLin made several baseline passes to Pat and he was able to make it with consistency--use it more.
I also noticed JLin wasn't forcing passes to Asik. There was a play where JLin and Asik ran PNR at the wing and JLin waved Asik off and didn't make the entry pass--good judgement. The spacing was tight and Asik was too far out for him to be effective anyways. So when Asik ran to the high block, Jlin attempted a baseball pass that was kinda high and wide which Asik couldn't catch. It resulted in a TO but I like JLin's decision in that possession and zipping that pass to Asik for a second and better attempt.
I noticed that too. I was wondering why Lin didnt have to go to the bench after shooting a two.
I understand that coaches want their players to shoot a lot of 3s. But - since there is only one Steve Novak and one Delfino (who is sometimes hot and sometimes cold) players tend to have lower 3pt percentages.
In the end its all simple math. I rather have the guys make a lot of 2s than miss a lot of 3s.
That TO pass to Asik wasn't really meant for Asik. That was meant for Parson for the open 3 pointer. But Asik reached out to try to grab it thinking it was his pass to catch.
Etymology, you're right. I just re-watched coffee's vid and noticed Parson was positioned at the 3 near Asik. Either way, if Asik caught the ball he had a mismatch in Milsap and could have taken him to the hole or get fouled in the process.
I read it too but I didnt bother to correct Racha. People see what they want to see. They see JLin fail to make a pass to Asik when he made a perfect pass to Parsons for a wide open 3.
Its been like that since Linsanity. Its been like that before Linsanity.
Some folks will always think of themselves as geniuses. They will think that you or I cant handle "the truth" about JLin when they are the ones who fail to recognise Lins talents! Dont argue with him. He will call you names and insult your mother.
"You know what strike me as weird? Seeing how HOU allowed Parsons, Patterson and Lin to take FOUR long 2PTs in the first 5 min of 1Q to take 13-6 lead"
Agreed. This was very much against recent pattern. As we've heard from people who've been to games in person, it appears that Lin has in the past gotten poor body language and benching for MAKING mid range jumpers.
Additional evidence is the fact that Houston has been very regimented in only taking lay-ups and three pointers and Lin complained during the losing streak that people were "reading their stuff". I doubt it's coincidence that the team suddenly became more successful when they relaxed that policy. Shooting high value shots should be an emphasis not an iron clad rule. I think Morey was responsible for fixing this.
yes @willy, no doubt that previously coaches (particularly Sampson) chided Lin or discouraged him to get going on making further 2PT jumpers even when the opposing big men packed the paint and daring the 3PT shooters to make them in their losing streak.
The funny thing is Lin knows how to beat this strategy by the opposing team with midrange jumpers. @michael, whether he managed to lobby the coaches or Morey convinced them, it's absolutely the right thing to do. Lin's decision-making as a PG was very good in knowing to make the safe plays. I agree, not a coincidence that HOU offense just exploded in the past 2 games.
@racha, I will watch again but I suspect those 4 made midrange jumpers made the big men came out more which gave more spacing for penetration.
Love to see how the happy group goof on the side lines. The Kung Fu salutes before the game are awesome too. A big part of Linsanity is to bring child-like passion and fun back into the sport. Happy to see the team enjoy what they're doing while getting paid millions.
Just read the gamethread on CF for fun. A lot of people pointed out that the team has been winning 3-0 since Lin was allowed to play PG.
Steal&Deal: "3 wins in a row since he's played PG. His stats last 3 games: PPG: 13 Assists 8 Steals 3.3 Rebounds 4 TO 4.3 Shooting 13-25 - 52% 3 pt shooting 4-8 - 50%"
ZDRAV "Jeremy Lin takes unto himself the sin of TOs, and his team shall benefit from his sacrifice."
People often say mean things about CF and some posters there but keep in mind - most of them are Rox fans, some of them are idiots but most of the people are really cool.
Lin played very well this game, and I don't mind at all Lin rested for half of the game. I also find most posters in the CF site to be reasonable to the same extent that this site is also biased for Lin -- it all goes with the territory.
Absolutely. You always have to keep in mind what kind of site you are on. CF is a site dedicated to Rox fans. They can like JLin - they dont have to. So - I have no problem if they dont like Lin. If you cant stand the heat - stay out of the kitchen.
Anyway - there are rules on CF. People are getting banned. And - there are Rox fans who arent Lin fans who still defend Lin against haters who nagg all the time. There are people (long time members with thousands of posts) who put statistics and data together to prove that Lin is a good player. So - its not that bad.
More and more people actually see Lin for what he is -> great player with potential to be even greater.
On the other hand - I hate it when people come here to nagg about Lin. I dont mind people criticising Lin but they dont have to point out every single TO like it would lead to the worlds ending and they defenitely dont have to insult Lin on a Lin fansite. Who do they think are?
BTW:
There are people on Twitter who say (to Jeremy) that he shoudlnt be an NBA player. There are people commenting on ALL JLin videos (coffeetime, geraldlin) just to insult Lin. Turnover machine, chink, whatever.
Whats wrong with those people? Do they even realise they are stalkers? They dont seem to know that what they do is considered illegal in some contries...
Lol, eb5, you can't really use that argument. This site is a Lin Fan site, therefore, by definition its participants should be biased in favour of Lin. Clutchfans is supposed to be a Rockets fan site, and by definition should be biased in favour of the Rockets.
You're essentially indirectly relabeling Clutchfans to LinHaters, or HardenFans in order for your justification of why Clutchfan posters are reasonable, if you choose to compare their bias and the "biases" of posters on this site.
More clearly put, no one here is under the delusion that they're not a LOF, where as in ClutchFans, some posters tend to take to the high horse under guise of objectivity, while unduly diminishing Lin's game, and the characters of "LOF"s. This guise gives them a sense of entitlement, and a false sense of justice that Lin fans, and Lin's game should be put down on a consistent basis. They are egregious to the point where many, MANY, non "LOF"s are now calling their shit out, and a great number of them have switched sides to "pro Lin".
JK, that is what I am saying. I understand what this site is for, namely for Lin fans, and that CF is for Rockets fans. I understand why long time CF posters get tired of Lin fans taking over their CF site. Nothing wrong with that. Do as Romans do when you are in Rome.
No, I think many CF posters understand Lin's strengths better, not because they have been called out. People rarely change their views over Internet discussions. If Lin keeps on playing well and Rockets win more often than not, they will love him. Most of them actually like Lin even when they criticize aspects of his game.
This argument between us, eb5attorney, has ZERO TO DO with Jeremy Lin.
Even with your previous post, you openly seek to degrade people on this forum. And every time you seek to trash people here for your own sport, you'll find me defending this place.
Your type, I know very well. Battled them all my life. I respect you.
Man KHuang, I don't understand why you have to view me as an opponent. I am someone who likes Lin differently from you. I do apologize if you disagreed with some of my posts, but I do respect everyone's views.
CF fans have the "what have you done for the Rockets" glasses while we have the "what you have done for Lin" glasses. Most knowledgeable CF fans have their eyes opened recently when Lin is allowed to play PG and showcased his defense.
Don't let some CF trolls sway your opinions to be CF vs Lin. Lin is winning them over Lowry and Dragic with his plays. Lately I see 80% positive, 20% negative for Lin.
Pretty good, eb5attorney, playing the sob story. But utterly UNCONVINCING, as usual.
You are not fooling anyone, least of all ME. And nice try "apologizing" to me when I didn't ask for one and wouldn't want one from you anyway. So no, your apology to me is outright rejected because it's false and we both know it.
I appreciate your presence here. I know you fully understand that.
KHuang, you are the most unique poster I came across. Let's stop boring others with our personal posts. I commend Terry for what he said but you turn it for something else. Just leave it at that.
eb5 - Lin fans didn't take over CF though, lol, that's what so perplexing. If you go through the threads, it always begins with some dickbag unduly putting all the blame on Lin, or making retarded statements like John Wall is so much better than Lin, or Lin is a joke, or Lin isn't worth his contract, or get Lin out of the Rox. At which point, some more vocal LOFs jump in to his defense, and to put down the original, irrationally spiteful and ignorant poster who started the hatefest anyway. There aren't many threads that start with "JLin is the best, fuck all y'all", made by an LOF.
Like I said earlier. It's the sense of entitlement from having an earlier join date; total disregard for real ability demonstrated by Lin; total ignorance of the impact Lin has on the team's effectiveness; total blindness to all the unequal treatment Lin's received from Sampson, McHale, and the Refs, as well as his poor usage; and last of all, the ever present urge to put him down in comparison to other PGs that any SENSIBLE NBA fan knows isn't true. Because of these reasons, the more apathetic/rational, and in-the-beginning, Lin-Doubters (Nook, Agg, Roxxx, Hermanos, etc) have come around, and have started trolling the trolls, and really jumping in in defense of Lin, against dipshits like Rockets12, King1, Dei, Dudewah, Duluth, Shayan. These hateful, disappointed-in-life-so-turned-trolls may be the minority, but due to their determination and tenacity, they induce so much noise that the overwhelming impression is that CF supports singling out Lin. And as Lin fans, and NBA fans who follow games diligently, are well versed in what stats mean, understand the positional differences and expectations between roles, and are a lot harder to distract, we can only assume that they're doing so for one very obvious reason. This is only reaffirmed by the aforementioned trolls, as they don't carry on any intelligent conversations regarding Lin's skill, and if others try to do so, they resort to calling them idiots, or absurd for trying to compare Lin to "Much better guards".
I'm not bored by our personal war at all. Remember that I feed off positivity. I also know what you're trying to pull, as do many people here.
We both understand that a Jeremy Lin fansite is going to attract people as widely opposite as you and me. I totally appreciate what you contribute to this board.
And eb5, to put things in perspective, the reason (as perceived by me) why KHuang comes off as being so irrationally fervent and quick to rage is (according to his previous posts) that he's been subjected to his share of racially motivated acts of aggression and repression.
Naturally, having grown up in such an environment, he identifies with those who seem to be suffering similar torment. When some CF posters go on their hatefests, without immediately being reprimanded - in fact, out right supported at times - by others, it builds the impression that CF supports this kind of activity.
Now, when you come on this board, and you're defending the CF fans, without acknowledging in detail and in genuine sincerity that the problem of racist trolls exist, it seems like you're defending everyone on CF, and he naturally identifies you as being in the same bucket.
You really can't gloss over the bad by stating that the majority are good - it might be true, but you still need to make as much effort in acknowledging the unfairness in a situation, BEFORE going on to defend the good.
JK, what you say is true, but I can understand some long time CF posters resenting Lin only fans from posting too many Lin related stuff there, just as some people on this site might get upset if people posted too often how great is Harden or Parsons.
Psalm - I agree, the situation is getting much better. Nook is really changing my attitude towards the site with his campaign of calling out dipshits. However, it's hard to buy into the notion of "don't get the bad ones get to you", especially when (prior to now) it didn't seem like any non LOFs ever rose to Lin's defense.
In my view, letting the ignorant and abusive few go around bullying others without rising to the defense of those being bullied doesn't make it okay, even if the bullies are few, and the neutral many.
The best factor in this situation is that the neutral are now doing exactly what I said, and are helping maintain civility in CF. Having said that, I still get urges to punch King1 and Dudewah in his left nut every time he posts anything.
eb5 - What I'm saying is that those posts pale in comparison to the posts going the other way, and the support you see in pro-Lin posts is nothing compared to the support you see in anti-Lin posts, and that's the problem.
Again, all this is changing, and I love it. However, I just wanted to give you the perspective of someone who identifies with Lin (underdog, Ivy league background, intelligent play, perseverance), who hasn't suffered from racism but is avidly outspoken against true forms of it (not including non-repressive, non-malicious humour in moderation), and is a stickler for fairness, and the reasons why I hated CF prior to now, but have started slowly changing my mind.
@JK, what I noticed earlier in the season was some exuberant Lin fans had strong emotional posts in CF on asking why coaches/long-term fans did not have appreciation of Lin's game and misused him, ending with statements to trade him. This begot a strong emotional reaction from long-time CF fans upset thinking that Lin fans put Lin above Houston Rockets and they didn't understand what Lin can do as we know very well.
Of course there were trolls/provocateurs mocking Lin fans to make long-term CF fans hate LOFs even more. But fortunately it has changed with Lin's improved play due to strategy change by the coaches.
If I could, I would plead Lin supporters to refrain from making emotional posts especially with trade request because it has the opposite effect of convincing old Rocket fans that Lin has contributed much. I put myself in their shoes and I understand the strong reaction and suspicion.
Torocan, mike_lu and Nook as Rox fans have used stats and good analysis to make a good case of Lin's contribution so that's how we will get along.
In the meantime, there are deranged fans like King1 and others who enjoyed the pleasure of trolling and getting Lin fans upset. Why entertained fools to give them satisfaction? I've seen good members advising Lin fans to put them on ignore list since they're clearly insane beyond logic :D
Ive always liked the discussions on CF. Of course - there are idiots but read this:
"I think it's harder for Jeremy to be less turnover prone because of his shorter wingspan and small hands... if only he was Jerome Lin that would be beast."
Response:
"Why do you think he has small hands and short wingspan? he is 6'3" and has the 3rd longest wingspan of any PG his height, his wingspan is equal to someone that is 6'5". His athleticism and physical attributes are very underrated.
But oh yeah, I forgot, just because his eyes are a different shape that means he's scrawny, small, unathletic and has short arms (end sarcasm)"
LOL. I may not like all posts but I always find ones that are great and people do have humor.
Yah if Lin would open his eyes once in a while, he might make a decent pass instead of turning the ball over. His eye lids might be blocking his long range vision that's why his shots are so limited in range. And, his peripheral vision must be so limited by his small eyes, that's why he always steps on the 3pt line when shooting a 3.
@Willydilly - I saw that one too, the concluding statement was hilarious. Some posts on CF really do rally the heart.
@Psalm - Yeah, those three are my favourite posters. I like vanityhalfblack too, but mostly because of the humour.
My problem is I have a hard time standing idle while I perceive injustice, and I am perturbed by others doing so. I'm fanatically against the concept of "ignore the bully until he goes away," speaking of which, is a perfect segue to my analogy.
I compare CF, prior to Nook and others taking an active stance against the haters, to a classroom full of mostly normal, unoffensive children, but with 3-4 disgruntled, jeering, bullies. In this situation, I don't think it's okay for the rest of the kids to watch the bullies belittle a victim without objecting to the acts, and I would think negatively of the entire classroom as a result. In the specific case of CF, the spark that changed the atmosphere - aside from Lin being played properly - was in my mind largely owing to Nook. The under-the skin commentary prior to his/her speaking up irks me, no matter how hard I try to ignore it.
I don't find the argument that over-flattering a player is the equivalent of unduly insulting a player. In one case we have a abundance of positivity - and potentially delusion - whereas in the other case, we have a glut of negativity. Positivity doesn't diminish anyone, negativity does. That is, unless we were to take the argument that by being overly positive towards one player, we're robbing the thunder of other players; which, if taken by these CF posters, would be quite hypocritical, as one of the main arguments from these folks is that LOFs are over-sensitive.
Actually, I can't understand (the minority of) CF responses at all. As a fan of any pro sports team from my home town, I can't remotely imagine reacting to a new player like Lin in the way they have. Defending them comes across as kind of pompous and is the reason some folks here have a hard time trusting you. Giving the appearance of neutrality is no the same thing as being right.
@willydilly, I love that response :D The witty sarcastic response yet full of facts is necessary to cure any 'ignorant' and 'racist' comments by any posters, at CF or even here.
@JK, I don't doubt that some CF posters are racist, ignorant and simply can't see that Lin will become a great PG no matter evidence is presented of them. These people we can only ignore.
IMO We have to understand first that most CF members are die-hard Houston Rocket fans who did not watch Lin's game even during Linsanity. Lin's improved play and presenting convincing stats (i.e. 3rd steal leader) will help to open some of their eyes. I already saw someone pointed out that when Lin played PG and take at least 3 TOs with lower team TOs as the result, Rockets wins meaning that Lin made calculated risk to make plays rather than trusting Parsons/Delfino/Harden to make TOs to make plays. Most CF members are slowly getting to understand Lin's strength as a PG to orchestrate offense much better than Harden. Having Calvin Murphy speaking up to let Lin be the PG was definitely a big factor to shift their thinking.
@michale, there are definitely some thoughtless, racist, ignorant remarks in CF forum that are indefensible. But we can only cure ignorance and racism with healthy discussion and reeducation that unfortunately require our patience and logic. It's definitely easier to lash out on fools but then I remember the end goal is to persuade most logical and common sense people to open their eyes so I hold my tongue and choose my words wisely.
I'm sorry for being so mean the other day. I'm sure everyone agrees it's more fun to have more points of view. Downplaying Lin's athleticism is a hot button for me because it's such a perfect example of the gap between the truth and perception and how damaging that gap can be.
The very fact some people don't take you is because you misrepresent what people say. Don't take things so personally or think you are the protector of others because others can take care of themselves.
Like, KHuang, I find it hard to be nice to you. There are many types of Internet trolls in the world, and there's a particular type that repeats that they are a fan of some thing, but constantly make subtle snide comments about the supposed object of their interest.
I can never fully shake the idea that you are one of these. I also often suspect that you have sock puppets on this forum, perhaps even @racha.
The reason I apologized is because I don't like to take the chance that both of you are real people who actually believe the things you say. It annoys me that the dedicated trolls of the Internet make it hard to trust people and be kind, but then I remember that trolls' self-confidence is a brittle thing too and they go through a lot of pain probably to waste time uplifting themselves by tormenting others.
The main reason I have a hard time shaking the idea that you're a troll is that you don't seem to grasp the reasons that Lin is a good player and it seems like you hold on to your wrong-headed views no matter how much objective evidence is supplied to you.
And then I remember that humans evolved to be contrary for a reason. Even if it's just trolls, we are forced to revisit and re-hone our understanding and communication of problems and solutions until they're polished like a fine gem. And it seems like we're entertained by the polishing.
So while your reasoning is often not very sound and easy to refute, it's still useful. Even pro baseball players regularly hit off tees. I will try to treat you as if you believe what you say, but I can't say I don't chuckle when @KHuang acts like the devil on my shoulder.
Are we back on the fighting and flaming subject again. As a poster and as some one who reads this site, I tend to agree with some of Racha and ebattorney views. I can't say I can stand those other posters who call other people racists and post aggressive remarks because of the different views out there, compliments or critical comments towards Lin. He's just like any of us Asians out there. We all grew up with much racism and prejudice towards us. Some of us cope better than others. There's no reason to hate or get into tit tats over different views.
Michael, I don't have sock puppets. The only place I care to comment on JLin is here and defending JLin on bleacherreports and seldomly on ESPN and use the same scree name. Also, it has been a while since I've posted comments at BR. As for clutchfans, I don't even visit that site just to read and post stuff. Actually, the only time I've visited CF is when someone here post a link to CF. Anyways, I appreciate your openness.
perhaps @eb and @racha can come off as over-critical Lin fans to some people when they shared their perspective on what Lin should do to get better without preceding them with much acknowledgment (relative to positive criticism) on what he has done well so far. But I'm confident from reading the history of their postings that both have good intentions. Noone spends that much time to think and analyze things consistently without intending for Lin to do well. But they're no doubt better than some people who just showed up to bash Lin when he's not doing too well.
Perhaps KHuang and eb can bury the hatchet and smoke the peace pipe some day :D
John Ly, Jeremy Lin's story is filled with racism and hatred.
If you cannot handle that kind of discussion here, this is the WRONG PLACE for you. But I think you're more than capable of handling it.
Personally, I respect and even like everybody here. That includes everybody that I've battled with. I admire the tenacity and intelligence of the people I openly disagree with.
I post here, so I can take the heat. I'm not gonna whine about it like a pansy either.
No sock puppet for me either. When I post on CF, I post as "webattorney". I personally also find Terry and KHuang hard to like no matter what they say because they engage in criticizing persons rather than positions. I rarely tend to do that because if we do, we would all end up calling each other idiots.
Most of all, I don't like internet warriors. I admit even posters I don't like have good analysis of NBA and Lin's game. I am not a NBA follower, although I would say I am a follower of human drama and great sports competition.
I watched 3-4 minutes of youtube clips before this Linsanity thing started and the most startling skill Lin possessed in my opinion was his ability to read passes and steal the ball, and/or knock the ball away from bigs in particular from the weakside creating loose balls and turnovers that teammates can often pick up.
He looks so much quicker in his reaction times/coordination in stealing the ball and getting a hand on it that it just jumped off the screen - this was at the college level too...How no expert could see that is simply beyond me.
I still believe Lin can average 3 steals per game but that was back when I expected him to play 35-40 min on a Rockets team where he'd be the man, at least being the lead guard on the team. However, Lin is a legit top 5 steals guy no matter what situation he is placed under.
I think Lin is a "B" grade defender athletically and has some issues man to man/on ball at times, but his steals ability/ball knocking skills make him a B+, A- overall defender all things considered. Lin is also physically tough, a blue collar type defender who takes contact and charges. He shatters the Asian/Euro stereotype of the non-physical, finesse player. One thing no NBA media guy is tried to pull is call Lin "soft." At least they give him that much.
@Etane: Thanks. I cant help but think that the best jokes are those that need explaining :)
@swingline: "stereotype of the non-physical"
I dont think thats the stereotype. The stereotype is that asians arent AS phsycial AS... and I dont even blame the people who think so that much.
Even asians in asia have that perception. It is said that asians arent as tall, as strong, even as hairy as white or black folks. My opinion is -> its a half-truth.
People in south east asia tend to be smaller. That however doesnt mean that they are genetically programmed to be smaller. I am 100% asian and I grew up in europe among europeans. My food intake therefor was all european. Bread, lots of meat, cheese and potatoes. Im 6 feet tall - I have wide shoulders and wide hips. I am also a foot taller than my father. I have hair on my belly and chest (which Id rather not have).
Same goes for my cousins in europe and USA. They are all at least a foot taller than their parents (some taller than me) - even the girls. Look at JLin. His father used to give him milk and steaks so he would grow tall - look at him now.
I grew up fighting and playing basketball with white folks so I wouldnt say Im not physical.
Being physical or not, being tall or not is therefor a question of envirement, upbringing and food intake. It is ignorance that make people think that asians are "inferior" because of genetics.
Now - I do hate stereotypes, I hate haters and I hate racists. But I do partly blame the asians in the USA to not prove them critics wrong.
Asians all over the world have proven themselves to be equal. Im not talking ping-pong or badminton. Im talking marathon runners, weightlifters, baseball players, martial arts, tenis players, swimmers, soccer players (some are worth millions $$$) and even male adult entertainment stars (with big ones!).
Where are all the asian-american basketball players? Why arent there any famous asian football players?
What was that comment by Bill Warrell the other night when Lin was playing against the Hornets? Lin steals so much on Bourbon street that they should call the cops on him. Was that the quote. Somebody help me out on this.
I don't just consider Lin an "A++" defender, I also consider him the best defensive guard I've ever seen in the NBA . . . and I've seen A LOT of truly great defensive guards like Michael Jordan, Dennis Johnson, Michael Cooper, Joe Dumars, Alvin Robertson, Maurice Cheeks, and Jason Kidd.
At the NBA level, the best defensive guards get scored on A LOT. Yet they contribute mightily to their team's overall defense. Lin contributes so much to this weak Houston team.
Lin is nasty defensively in two ways:
1) He completely stops dribble penetration, especially in isolations where opponents are finally realizing that Lin is a horrible isolation target who'll often get the stop. That means no foul trouble for the big men or easy handoff points for opposing big men.
2) Lin plays the passing lanes as good as any player I've ever seen. Not only that, he sees plays developing and is constantly talking on defense. This allows the Rockets to intercept the ball and race down the court for easy fast break scores.
I cannot say enough about how great a defender I think Lin is.
Thanks for sharing. Please take a moment and listen to the answers.. the guy should write a book one day and no doubt it will be a best seller !
Jlin may never reach the Hall of Famer status when his playing career is over but gee whizz his legacy will last forever when his contemporaries will be forgotten in years to come.. he is truly Linspirational !!
Oh god - Im just realising that JLin is kind of "slow".
A woman said that the ladies would want to know if hes still single. JLin dodged the question and she was like "so whats the answer?". She was pretty agressive :)
I think she was hitting on him and he didnt realise it :)
I dont think jeremy is slow but in an awkward situation where you dont feel like discussing the topic, one tends to ignore or pretends to ignore the question.As you have said, the woman might be hitting on him and im sure jer is aware and to stop her from getting delusional, he just avoided to answer the question.
Well - he dodged the question by saying that people usually ask him that when hes in asia. She then asked again and he said he was single.
JLin is a little naive/dorky at times. Like when journalists asks him whether he thinks that Kobe now knew who JLin was. It was a rhetorical question that was supposed to be funny - no answer needed - everbody laughed - but JLin did answer the question and everybody stopped laughing 8)
Jeremy is definitely not "slow." He's diplomatic and humble in his answers. How do you think he was suppose to answer the Kobe question? "F**K yeah Kobe knows who I am now I just dropped 38 on his ass!" Even a non-answer would seem arrogant. Instead he plays it completely humble. That's not being "slow."
Ok I'll give you dorky, that's part of his angle. Definitely not naive though. He's answered thousands of questions. If he was naive we be seeing a lot more clueless answers.
A smile would have been enough to answer the Kobe-question. The journalist pretty much passed him an alley oop. All ne needed to do is dunk to look good!
To answer the question with words ruined the joke :) Dont you get it?
Again - Im not saying hes dumb or anything. He cant be. Hes an asian, a Harvard grad, made it to the NBA, a multi-millinaire age 24...
But - at times he is like a little kid... a little dorky and a little naive :)
Dont take it too serious. Naive is not bad. In fact - naive can have different meanings. Dont know which one you are focused on. I just looked it up in my dictionary (cause english is not my first langauge - not even my second) and it has 13 different meanings - some are a little condescending but most arent...
Honestly, I think Lin is more in charge of his PR packaging than meets the eyes.
Remember that story about him being too egotistical while in high school? I think he not only became humble from the experience but also learned about how not to come across as egotistical.
@willydilly It's cool, I know naive and innocent is not a bad thing. It's just that I know that type of people, and I really don't Jeremy is. He's gone the total humble route, maybe even gone overboard with it, but that's what he's doing when the reporter passed him the alley oop. Instead of a flashy dunk he caught it, came down, then did a basic humble layup. Just my opinion though, it's cool if we differ. :)
Lakers: Kobe stops hogging the ball, does a great job dishing along side Nash and plays as unselfish as I've ever seen him. Lakers wins last 3 games and Kobe's assist numbers skyrocket.
Rockets: Harden stops hogging the ball, leaves majority of play making in Lin's hands and is just an assassin on court thanks to gaps created by Lin's offense. Rockets wins last 3 games, and Harden's TO drops by an order of magnitude and his ppg goes back up.
Before the game.
ReplyDelete"This is a winnable game as long as you protect the paint. If they can stop Paul and Al they can def win. I think Lin will have a good game tonight."
I guess I'm 3/3 in predictions :). HOWEVER, If you were going to tell me that Rockets would win by 45 I wouldn't have believed you. I almost typed that it was going to be an easy win if they stopped Al and Paul but I didn't want to be TOO optimistic. But wow. Incredible game by EVERYONE even the bench!
Lin did a terrible job in the defensive end. 5/5 from the field even though Asik took one out that was going in, and also gave Lin 1 of his 3 turnovers. Harden played great today, barely any ISOs and every played team ball. I just hope that this doesn't bring over-confidence to the team. There is still many things to improve on and get better at. I just hope we keep winning. I can't wait to see Lin in a playoff game!
I meant Terrific* lol sorry if that causes any confusion.
Deletehaha... "terrible"??? i was wondering too. i also thought you might have meant - terrific or incredible...
Deletewell , i know , we're all just so excited for the terrific win!
i'm happy , there are no negative vibes around here :)
because JLin keeps on winning!
:) It's the Asian tough love thing. Most of us are not trained to lavish praises in fear of Lin stopping to improve :)
DeleteIt's absolutely great game to watch when all things just worked to perfection for Houston. Beyond the box score, Lin's confidence to direct offense and wreck havoc on defense was sky high after watching the last part of Linsanity movie last night! lol
From now on, he needs to watch his own Linsanity DVD before every game to remember what he could always perform!
imagine what more could have happened if JLin watched the entire movie and not just the tail end part ? :>
Deletetwitter will blow up, @chan :}
Deletejp2123, you're on a roll. Lay out your prediction for Denver plus some lottery numbers ;)
Haha psalm234 I know right? The Asian tough love thing.
Delete- if you did well you get a nod and no complaints
- if you only did average you get razzed and compared to other Asian kids that are doing better than you
- if you did bad, had an awful day etc., we make you wanna kill yourself
Ahh Asian tough love...
Jaja Well I'm not Asian but I can relate. lol... Chan and Psalms I was thinking the same thing. I think I put up a comment before the game hoping for Linsanity after he watched the end of the movie just hope he would have watched the same thing. I personally can't wait to watch it myself.
DeleteI don't play or encourage playing the lottery lol but I will definitively have my predictions for wednesday game. It's going to be a tough one lol
@Kenoshi, yeah..so sad :{
DeleteI'm in the process of breaking the cycles :) Found a good book on Words that Kids need to hear. So far I got to the first 2:
1. "I believe in you"
2. "You can count on me"
Both my kids' eyes just light up when I said that :)
Psalm234 , I'm guessing Jeremy heard those positive words a lot too from his parents. They were his foundation , so that when he went out there to battle all those racism , skepticism and unbelief , he stood his ground and did not waver.
DeleteAnd it's great of you relishing the same to your own kids. It's very important for kids to grow in a positive reinforcing environment. It's a breeding ground for success.
I read somewhere that a person absorbs about 2,000 negative messages in a day. On the other hand , the same person receives only about 20 positive messages in a day. Whoaa! That's a lot of difference. The sad part is , the negatives have become the "normal" and the positives have become the "natural" of life.
We have become so accustomed to the negatives that we do not even know how to react when showered with positives. We easily resort to false humility. (At least , for me , admittedly , I'm oftentimes guilty of that.)
In the real world , out there , people are quick to complain , criticize... but , so slow to appreciate.
In this site , at least , I see a balance of things. Posters with sound mind criticize Lin when they see things in his game that need to be improved. And yay! they also do not hold on to celebrate when Lin is pushing on all the right buttons in his game. Just like today... hahaha...
So , truth be told , I'm really enjoying this ride. :)
Very true, chan. For some reason, we're wired to easily criticize but it takes some effort to see positive things, even for ourselves. I've seen how damaging a guilt-driven thinking for people close to me.
Delete"..whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is commendable, if there is any excellence, if there is anything worthy of praise, think about these things."
We ought to be constantly thinking of anything worthy to praise ourselves or our loved ones every day. You said it, positivity breeds success. It's not wrong to say, "We're good! Let's do more" ;>
Amen. :) nice meeting you , Psalm.
DeleteThis is great, I'm going to copy what you have both said and put it in my unborn son's journal that I'm writing for him.
DeleteWay to go , Bong! :)
DeleteGreat to hear that, @Bong :)
DeleteHere is the Amazon link to the book if you are interested:
Words Kids Need to Hear: To Help Them Be Who God Made Them to Be
nice to meeting you too, @chan :D
first to congra Lin!
ReplyDeleteoops, computer too slow! robbed my score.
DeleteBTW Check this out. LOL at Lin.
ReplyDeletehttps://twitter.com/htown747/status/296118290009432065/photo/1/large
he is a really funny kid.
Deletegreat game.
ReplyDeleteI still can't believe idiot rockets fans from CF or realgm hou still say that lin has low bbiq. He's one of the smartest players on the team. Mcfail's even said he has a feel for the game, anticipates well, fundamentally sound o and d player. Even D'antoni's said this.
Hope they win the Denver game.
It's the one moron on RantSports. The dickless goons on CF are just recycling on delusional, limped up, internet troll-because-he-can't-get-attention-via-any-other-means' garbage.
Deleterecycling one*
Delete@JK, LOL! I'll stay away from RantSports.
DeleteLin is such a team player who'll never get any credit from the Houston coaches, writers and stupid fans. For example, Lin sat after playing for 8 minutes in the 1st Q. At the time his stat line was something like 7 Pts, 5 Ast, 1 Reb, 1 TO. Then after Lin played 5 more minutes in the 2nd Q (for a total of 13 minutes PT at this point), the Rockets' lead increased by 9 more points. Lin didn't start the 2nd Q, but when he came out, during the 5 minutes stretch, Lin was was extremely active, playing D and hockey assisting. For all that, the ONLY THING that got added to Lin's stat was one(1) more TO !!! Meanwhile, his teammates' stats got fattened, especially Harden's.
DeleteWhen Lin rejoined the team after a few minutes in the 2nd Q, the Rockets lead by 6 points. They next 5 minutes with Lin, the Rockets had a 11-2 run. I had the boxscore page opened and was toggling back and forth watching on League Pass. After the five minutes, I wasn't curious anymore, so I closed the boxscore.... Right now I can't remember what Lin's exact stat line was after he played the first 8 minutes, but the point is, all his hard work in those 5 minutes NETTED him ONE turnover! It's almost funny. Hahahahaha. I'd just love to see Lin traded and help out another team big time! A lot of teams could use a good PG right now.
For anyone with enough patience/tolerance left to still give a rat's dick about Clutchfans, I am amused to report that in the "Jeremy Lin is a Joke" thread, Dei, Dudewah, and King1 are getting called out enough, and are witnessing the effects of what we've all been preaching in our own board enough that they're backtracking and pursuing a "chicken shit" strategy.
ReplyDeleteI remember from pages 50-200, King1, specifically, would just repeatedly make nonsensical remarks about Lin - not worth contract, not doing anything offensively, not doing anything defensively... blah blah blah, and really just throwing down statements like JLin is a bitch, fool, sucks, etc. Now he's going with a "I hate his fans more than him, blah blah blah, it's his fans (who are really there to just rebuke those who put undue blame on Jlin in the first place, cough King1, Dei, Dudewah, Nook, etc, cough) who make me do this, etc" and more of a "Jeremy is worth his contract, I would talk to other rational people, I'm not racist because I like Yao (which is literally the equivalent of Leonardo's character in Django Unchained claiming he's not racist because he likes Sam Jackson - his slave) so everyone else is an idiot despite me clearly singling out Lin and assigning all blame to him." Let's all relish in the Rox real win today, as well as us fans' much more silent win over dickbag trolls.
As of right now, it's really just Dudewah who can't lay off the random troll remarks; Dei's given up, despite claiming that he's fueled by "LOH"s as opposed to JLin's "average/subpar" play; King1 is back tracking like the world's biggest internet bitch - only because he was so irrationally arrogant any vocal before.
@JK, just ignore them. there are too many to count, there's some that pretend to like Lin but then all they do is lurk Lin threads and post s.hit, trying to put Lin fans in their place.
DeleteHOU fans make it hard to like HOU.
Bahahaha, Dudewah is pulling the same tail-behind-the-legs bs now too, talking about the legitimacy in Lin's play, and now saying it's okay to be his fan. I think we should be thankful of the Dec stretch, as it's apparently demonstrated something clearly enough for these monkeys - monkey because they've got lesser intellect, not making a racist jab.
Deletewow. you must be so patient putting up with those trash talks.
Deletei've never been to CF and i don't think i will ever go to that site.
Good to visit CF from time to time to notice the trend that most knowledgeable CF old-timers have come around to appreciate Lin's contribution.
DeleteDefinitely need to put some illogical trolls on the ignore list. There are fewer and fewer of them by the day.
i'm glad , the trolls are diminishing out there.
Deletebut , i guess , they won't be completely wiped out. they have a role to play in this Jeremy Lin saga.
they are a factor for Lin to work , work and work... improve , improve and improve....
@Psalm - exactly, Roxxxy, Nook come to the top of my mind. They're legitimately shutting down haters now.
Deletetrue, @JK. With more wins, they'll grow to appreciate Lin more. Just wait until the playoff for true domination :)
DeleteLOL...thanks for the update. I actually don't know what they are saying due to the my huge ignore list...but someone usually quotes them later in response.
DeleteI think our JLin played solid, even though it was only fo rabout 25 min. Not sure if he was rested because he was limping; hopefully not too bad or it was just a rotation decision since we had the lead.
ReplyDeleteJLIN was aggressive on offensive end and defense as well. More often more aggressive on defense, which is also a good thing, since he always wants to helpout the team to win rather then personal stats.
If he had played, I think he could have easily had double-double or who knows triple as well.
The team as a whole did good in keeping the ball in move and JH had zero TO; and indeed that helped as well.
This was one of Lin's most dominating games.
ReplyDeleteHe completely destroyed the poor Jazz on both ends.
Lin tore their offense to shreds with his help defense, literally turning his back on nonscorers like Watson and Tinsley. He completely bottled up the Jazz passing lanes and forced the Jazz bigs into taking horrible shots.
Then on offense, Lin made the Rockets unstoppable. He set up all the other players for easy looks and got everybody involved. Even though the Jazz clearly were out to stop the secondary passes, they misjudged Lin's ability to penetrate and so he flew by guys all night. And for once, I was OK with Harden shooting as much as he did because the Jazz's insistence on closing out the shooters off Lin's passes meant that the court was wide open for Harden to attack whenever he wanted. Unfortunately, Harden was attacked repeatedly on defense. At least it didn't make a difference this game.
Watching Lin destroy the Jazz was like watching a Dream Team game, only it was an NBA team getting beaten on both ends by one guy instead of by five guys!
I agree 100%. From the very beginning of Q1, Lin took charge of the offense, didn't hesitate to shoot the long 2, asked for the ball from Harden when he saw opening, dominated on help defense suffocating the Utah bigs and daring Tinsley to make his 3PTs.
DeleteIt's unreal how Utah's confidence just deteriorated when they can't get going with any offensive rhythm.
I did get the sense of total domination on defense by Lin. Utah radio team echoed the same sentiment on Lin's domination.
Simply marvelous to watch while kicking back with my son :)
The announcers mentioned that other teams may also try to leave the Utah pgs unguarded in order to disrupt the post.
DeleteThe problem with that is that it ONLY works with Jeremy Lin.
A guy like John Wall has athleticism equal to Lin's but not the court sense and anticipation. A guy like Chris Paul has the awareness but not the physicality to play that kind of defense.
Lin is a unique defensive talent at the pg position in today's NBA. I have been saying that he's the best defensive PG in all of basketball.
Well said, but his defense cant measure against some of the leagues best pg's. Like his strength cant match the speed of some pg's. Games against subpar .500 teams and below is expected for him to dominate. I really want him to excel against the top 4 seeds in each conference (ny is overrated). although his strength makes him more versatile in terms of who he can guard, I wouldnt say that makes him the best defensive PG.. thats a bit too much, but I would say he's a very special pg
DeleteWho are these "league best pgs" that defend better than Lin who was ranked #2 in pg defense among all guards last year, J?
DeleteSimilarly, who are these guards that are faster than Lin? After all, Lin tested faster than just about anybody other than John Wall.
Howard Chen @ho_chenCSN
ReplyDeleteMcHale shared his love, unprompted, for Jeremy Lin's defense on Monday night http://www.csnhouston.com/basketball-houston-rockets/talk/lin-rockets-get-some-defensive-props … #RedNation #Linsanity #林來瘋 #林書豪
Wow, this must be the first praise for the season?
DeleteI think it is. Great to hear that though.
Deletewow
Deletethe compliment is short and ok, not much enthusiasm in it but hey at least its a start no matter how small
don't worry, Rikki :) Lin can relate, he has an Asian dad after all ..haha, just kidding. I'm sure Lin's parents are full of encouragement after reading his book.
Deletelol i see what you did there psalm234 but IMO McHale is worst than asian dad. What Lin did is more than enough to make any asian dad wept and sobbing in tears
Deletepapa jumba is crazy for Lin
Deleteyup :) I love the scene where Papa Jumba just shoved KevJumba to the wall when Lin arrived at the door :)
DeleteCome to think about it, it has a good message for all dads not to be so "mean" to the kids and use Jeremy Lin's success as a measuring stick to love the kids. Poor KevJumba had to hit the wall and pushed down the lake for a good message.
Out of everything i could. Be excited of after this game is seeing Harden, Lin and teammates talking on tweeter. This game can have a big impact on chemistry and confidence on each other.
ReplyDeleteGood point.
DeleteI think one reason Harden was able to co-exist with a fellow ball-hog like Russell Westbrook was that they're good friends off the court. There's a level of trust and cooperation between friends that's hard to come by when you're just "teammates."
All these guys are so young, too, so it's even more important to bond and develop chemistry both on and off the court. They play with their heart more than their head!
So much fun on the twitter feed :)
Deletehttps://twitter.com/HoustonRockets/rocketspersonnel
Jeremy Lin @JLin7
"@Ju_Smith4: Great win tonight. @JLin7 my brothers balled out" i dont acknowledge ppl who take creeper pics of me when i sleep on the plane
James Harden @JHarden13
@JLin7 @MookMorris2 haha yup. I don't have any either. You have to get jumped in. LoL
Chandler Parsons @ChandlerParsons
“@Ju_Smith4: Great win tonight. @JHarden13 @JLin7 @MookMorris2 my brothers balled out” ouch...
Jeremy Lin @JLin7
"@JHarden13: @JLin7 lol sick goggles." Just tryin to fit in with you and @MookMorris2 lol. Does #teamfoe take new members without tattoos?
1h James Harden @JHarden13
@JLin7 lol sick goggles.
1h James Harden @JHarden13
#Schwaggggg RT @ChandlerParsons: Tonight shows what were capable of! Great team win. Holy @JHarden13 dunk. #vicious
1h James Harden @JHarden13
Great road win. Everyone played well. Now off to Denver! #Schwaggggg
1h Jeremy Lin @JLin7
AWESOME team win tonight...so fun to be a part of!! Dont ask me what im doin...haha. And @JHarden13 dunk?!? pic.twitter.com/WeeZuzSp
Have to read from bottom to top or you will get confuse lol. I love that part where Harden is replying to Lin's photo and the tattoo comment lol. I bet they were all hanging out and happy after the game.
DeleteWell, like what I have said before. My boy J.Lin isn't just a Star Player, he's also an IMPACT player... and you can't say that to all NBA Stars :)
ReplyDeleteWay to go J.Lin!
Geraldd Lin: Jeremy Lin highlights vs Jazz || Jan 28, 2013 || HD
ReplyDeleteLin had 12 points , 7 assists and 3 steals in only 25min.
blayain's Lin highlights were a little better this game.
Deletehttp://youtu.be/1yTL8M3ks7k
thanks, k.smith! That was entertaining too watch with 3PTs raining down, Lin dissection, Lin helping Al Jefferson up.
DeleteIt only missed the spectacular Lin layup canceled by Asik's goaltending but still great!
Jazz announcer stuttered, "There ..there..uhm.. Jeremy Lin gambling" as Lin got a steal LOL
DeleteAt 0:11 on blayain's highlights, Lin again uses opposing big man as a screen as he gets the layup +1. I love it!
DeleteQuestion: Who's that coach clapping on the Rockets bench? Seems like he's the only one clapping even if it's ONE clap only.
Delete@Etymology:
DeleteIm pretty sure its McHale. He does clap for all his players. Lin included. The other guys do clap - but not that often.
Good news for Rockets:
ReplyDeleteMcGee might be out Wednesday
Rockets Hit All The Right Notes In Romp Over Jazz
ReplyDeleteBec i didnt see the game live, i checked the scores and surprise!!blow out! Next i went to boxscore, jeremy 100% shooting! Terrific!then saw he only played 24mins?myBP started to go up but i went to the game thread and i calmed down.hahah.it was a blow out early in the game.the commander did his job early and deserves to rest (not bench). Reading the posts, it looked like most of the soldiers listened and obeyed the commander for the most part.thanks guys for your posts, you are like the commentaors but a million times better minus the sound and the hate against jeremy.now i know which part of the game i will watch later.
ReplyDeleteguys, some clips from Linsanity movie. had this in my Twitter account:
ReplyDeleteJeremy's Lion King blanket (aww I also love Lion King, Garfield, and Sesame Street... he got the blanket, I'm probably worse because I got the toys lol)
Racist Slurs against Jeremy
run in with MSG security
thanks. more clips plsss... he he :)
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DeleteThe blanket thing is hilarious. I also like the fact that they are talking about racism - something that some people say is not true.
DeleteThanks for the clips. Can't wait to see the movie!
DeleteNice to see the commander having fun last night.hopefully, his commanding duty continues from now on. This is how i want to see the commander play that makes me wanna watch him.Keep fighting the good fight, mr commander.
ReplyDeleteI just pledged $50 to the Linsanity movie project. Go J.Lin, it's your story that makes me proud to be Asian. My daughter is born in the year of the dragon just like you. I hope she will be inspired by your story as well when she grows up.
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ReplyDeleteJeremy Lin - Sundance Q&A after Linsanity (21 min long)
ReplyDeletelucky peeps
Delete(Mark 8:54) On advice on breaking the stereotypes for generations:
DeleteLin:" My only advice is pretty much the same thing that my parents taught me growing up:
1. Love God with all heart,
2. Chase your dreams,
3. Have fun along the way,
4. Give your best efforts,
5. Be okay with the results
It's very different for everybody but for me it's basketball"
What a gem! That's what made Lin tick.
I have a newfound respect for Mr. and Mrs. Lin!
I think this game would have been closer if the Rockets didn't hit all those 3's.
ReplyDeleteBut I love how Jlin is commanding the offense more and they've kind of gone back to what helped them get their winning streak back in December.
My question is what made them change back to their winning ways again? Also does this team ONLY have fun when they're winning? They seem like they have better chemistry when winning, what about when they're loosing? They need to build chemistry when they're loosing too, so that they continue to play at a high level even when things are not going their way.
I feel like if the game was close they would have resorted back to Harden ISO ball.
I don't think the game would've been any less of a blowout if the Rockets didn't hit 3s.
DeleteThe Rockets with Lin in charge were simply way too quick for the slow Jazz on both ends of the court. Lin greyhounded the Jazz, and so did Harden to a much lesser extent.
The Rockets scored 120, which is a typical scoring night for them. What really knocked out the Jazz was Lin's defense. He singlehandedly destroyed the Jazz offense and knocked out all their rotation regulars with his help defense.
Some teams just match up poorly against others. The Rockets with specifically Lin are Utah's nightmare. It's just like how Lin's Rockets just can't seem to beat Portland because Nicholas Batum is too physically overwhelming for Houston's small forwards to deal with on both ends.
Rockets matched up well with utah because lin was free to help EVERY time the ball touches either millsap or jefferson. the bigs had to worry about omer's defense as well as pesky lin. that's a pretty irritating combo and the utah forwards never found their rhythm. lin was free to help because they don't have anyone that can shoot a jumper. so many time we saw tinsley wide open for three only to brick it. i thought the help defense decision making by lin was also tremendous - much better than earlier in the season. we saw that for the most part, lin's man is always on the weakside, more than 1 pass away, so he was free to help and when the ball leaves the hands of the big, get back to his man to prevent a 3. what utah should've done to adjust is to alway have lin's man one pass away on the strong side. that prevents lin from helping too aggressively. or at least make sure the bigs always knew where lin's man is.
Deleterockets won't be able to do that with portland because portland has shooters, such as lillard. but then again, rockets are a bit more in-sync now on defense vs. earlier in the year, so as long as they know how to rotate on D when lin helps out on the bigs, then they should be okay.
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DeleteWhat made them change back to their winning ways again?
DeleteAnswer: Easy, Harden made the ASG reserves and Lin was left out, so no longer is there a need to downplay Lin to make Harden, the crown jewel defining Morey's GM career, shine.
Someone made a comment that McHale stopped shaving and couldn't look at the players in the eyes. Could it be that he was under Morey's directive to handicap Lin?
The idiocy of the whole thing is, Lin would've made Harden shine brighter.
@Khuang I agree about Lin's help defensive being a SIGNIFICANT reason why they blew out the Jazz but shutting down their All Star player Al Jefferson and sidekick Paul Millasap.
DeleteHowever, I think hitting all those 3 pointers was also a BIG impact on how the game was won. Which I believe was INFLUENCED by Jlin's taking control of the offense.
@fighton1999
Yes you're right that the Utah Jazz should have made that adjustment to make it tougher for the double team. I think they underestimated Jlin's EXCELLENT help defense skills, which reveals the stereotype and bias views they have on Jlin.
@John Lee
That's a probable hypothesis. I only hope they continue to see Lin's TRUE VALUE as a ALL-STAR CALIBER player.
Tinsley guy definitely is worse 3 points shooter than Lin for sure. Compared to Tinsley, Lin's 3 points shooting is awesome.
DeleteI think it is as simple as the young Rockets learning that Lin really is there to facilitate them all.
DeleteThe entire Rockets team is getting more shots and minutes than they have ever received in the NBA. Consequently, there have been many moments of distrust especially with the frontcourt not trusting Lin to feed them the ball. But I think that those issues are being worked out mainly to Lin's flexible leadership.
Those teammates are starting to realize that they can ALL succeed if they just let Lin lead them. Players like Lin who step onto an NBA court with the sole goal of winning games are very rare, and this minimum wage Houston team has realized who their leader is.
I see signs of Lin starting to wrest control of the team. Lin is a CHAMPION.
Starting to realize? Or forced to recognize by the staff's video viewing party 4 or 5 games ago. I've been reading and thinking more about this. I've been reading more about how Morey analyzes stuff. He doesn't use box scores. He hates them. His staff compiles their own stats. His technical comments about Lin's game in the past have been fully perceptive of what I (and many here) think Lin's strengths are. I would bet that Morey was behind the film breakdown and I don't think it's a coincidence that Lin's new demeanor on court, McHale's suddenly buddy-buddy attitude with him, and his teammate's willing deferring of the offensive to him have all happened since. I think this is a true watershed moment for the team and everyone understands perfectly Lin's value as the offense initiator.
DeleteThis is all I wanted. Despite what CF thinks, most of us will be perfectly happy to have Lin run the offense and Rockets win games. As with Rondo, it may take a year or two to fully appreciate Lin, but it'll come. Everyone knows Jason Kidd controlled games despite not always putting up obvious stats, so there's precedent for recognizing this role. Some stretch Harden will be hurt and Lin will be forced to fill up the box score. They'll keep on winning. Winning gets attention and close analysis. Unexpectedly deep play-off runs do that too.
If I had to guess, I'd say the timeline and dynamics were:
1. Lin and Harden start out the year great and naturally. Lin took control of offense and things flowed.
2. McHale and Sampson interfered because of their biases and reigned in Lin, which reduced his mechanical effectiveness due to clear rules on how he was allowed to play, but also reduced his own confidence and undermined the respect his teammates had for him.
3. Lin got enough control to go on the winning streak. McHale and Sampson didn't really understand exactly why the winning streak was happening and reign in Lin again.
4. The team loses so much that they hit rock bottom. They are ready to hear the truth. Morey doesn't like to seem to be meddling, so until now he's only been offering subtle suggestsion. Maybe he analyazed his data in a new way or collected new data. Anyway, enough is enough, and he has his team cut up video. The team's watches, and it's impossible to ignore the difference when Lin is doing the majority of the playmaking.
Folks on CF are pretty dumb, so they can pretend all they want that it wasn't the staff's idea for Lin to cross half court and pass to Harden, but that's just not how it works. At any time, if Mchale didn't want that, he could have ordered it off. George Karl knew that. Calvin Murphy knew that. Everyone in the world knows that except a minority of Rockets "fans".
extended highlights from coffee:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OSjwD8nZoQ
lin claps at harden and asik to pass the ball, nice.
never seen lin clap at harden before. keep it up lin so harden doesn't hold the ball too long.
Deletecoffetime's back! woohoo!!!
Deletecoffetime's vid is always well-made.
DeleteYou know what strike me as weird? Seeing how HOU allowed Parsons, Patterson and Lin to take FOUR long 2PTs in the first 5 min of 1Q to take 13-6 lead (Harden made 1 layup and Lin and layup plus And-1. Utah only made 2 3PT-ers)
To me, it is a dramatic change for the old strategy of ONLY penetrate and find 3PT shooter. Often times, it caused HOU to trail by 10-15 pts behind in the 1st half.
If coaches are now willing to tweak their system to get open shots even if it means long 2PTs, it will only create more spacing to penetrate because the big men can no longer pack the paint to prevent only penetration.
Kudos to the coaches to finally do the right thing to incorporate long 2PTs to keep the defense honest by not packing the paint. Better late than never!
psalm234, I don't think it's weird because those shots are not forbidden just not preferred. It's inevitable during the course of a game long/mid 2s will be attempted. I think Patterson's baseline jumper is an effective one, especially when JLin penetrates and the defense collapses he has an outlet or kick out right there at his disposal. JLin made several baseline passes to Pat and he was able to make it with consistency--use it more.
DeleteI also noticed JLin wasn't forcing passes to Asik. There was a play where JLin and Asik ran PNR at the wing and JLin waved Asik off and didn't make the entry pass--good judgement. The spacing was tight and Asik was too far out for him to be effective anyways. So when Asik ran to the high block, Jlin attempted a baseball pass that was kinda high and wide which Asik couldn't catch. It resulted in a TO but I like JLin's decision in that possession and zipping that pass to Asik for a second and better attempt.
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Delete@psalm:
DeleteI noticed that too. I was wondering why Lin didnt have to go to the bench after shooting a two.
I understand that coaches want their players to shoot a lot of 3s. But - since there is only one Steve Novak and one Delfino (who is sometimes hot and sometimes cold) players tend to have lower 3pt percentages.
In the end its all simple math. I rather have the guys make a lot of 2s than miss a lot of 3s.
@Racha
DeleteThat TO pass to Asik wasn't really meant for Asik. That was meant for Parson for the open 3 pointer. But Asik reached out to try to grab it thinking it was his pass to catch.
Etymology, you're right. I just re-watched coffee's vid and noticed Parson was positioned at the 3 near Asik. Either way, if Asik caught the ball he had a mismatch in Milsap and could have taken him to the hole or get fouled in the process.
Delete@Etymology:
DeleteI read it too but I didnt bother to correct Racha. People see what they want to see. They see JLin fail to make a pass to Asik when he made a perfect pass to Parsons for a wide open 3.
Its been like that since Linsanity. Its been like that before Linsanity.
Some folks will always think of themselves as geniuses. They will think that you or I cant handle "the truth" about JLin when they are the ones who fail to recognise Lins talents! Dont argue with him. He will call you names and insult your mother.
"You know what strike me as weird? Seeing how HOU allowed Parsons, Patterson and Lin to take FOUR long 2PTs in the first 5 min of 1Q to take 13-6 lead"
DeleteAgreed. This was very much against recent pattern. As we've heard from people who've been to games in person, it appears that Lin has in the past gotten poor body language and benching for MAKING mid range jumpers.
Additional evidence is the fact that Houston has been very regimented in only taking lay-ups and three pointers and Lin complained during the losing streak that people were "reading their stuff". I doubt it's coincidence that the team suddenly became more successful when they relaxed that policy. Shooting high value shots should be an emphasis not an iron clad rule. I think Morey was responsible for fixing this.
yes @willy, no doubt that previously coaches (particularly Sampson) chided Lin or discouraged him to get going on making further 2PT jumpers even when the opposing big men packed the paint and daring the 3PT shooters to make them in their losing streak.
DeleteThe funny thing is Lin knows how to beat this strategy by the opposing team with midrange jumpers. @michael, whether he managed to lobby the coaches or Morey convinced them, it's absolutely the right thing to do. Lin's decision-making as a PG was very good in knowing to make the safe plays. I agree, not a coincidence that HOU offense just exploded in the past 2 games.
@racha, I will watch again but I suspect those 4 made midrange jumpers made the big men came out more which gave more spacing for penetration.
Linsanity Movie:
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DeleteLove to see how the happy group goof on the side lines. The Kung Fu salutes before the game are awesome too. A big part of Linsanity is to bring child-like passion and fun back into the sport. Happy to see the team enjoy what they're doing while getting paid millions.
ReplyDeletefunny that some people find that celebratory mood a little over the top... hehe
DeleteJust read the gamethread on CF for fun. A lot of people pointed out that the team has been winning 3-0 since Lin was allowed to play PG.
ReplyDeleteSteal&Deal:
"3 wins in a row since he's played PG. His stats last 3 games:
PPG: 13
Assists 8
Steals 3.3
Rebounds 4
TO 4.3
Shooting 13-25 - 52%
3 pt shooting 4-8 - 50%"
ZDRAV
"Jeremy Lin takes unto himself the sin of TOs, and his team shall benefit from his sacrifice."
People often say mean things about CF and some posters there but keep in mind - most of them are Rox fans, some of them are idiots but most of the people are really cool.
Lin played very well this game, and I don't mind at all Lin rested for half of the game. I also find most posters in the CF site to be reasonable to the same extent that this site is also biased for Lin -- it all goes with the territory.
DeleteAbsolutely. You always have to keep in mind what kind of site you are on. CF is a site dedicated to Rox fans. They can like JLin - they dont have to. So - I have no problem if they dont like Lin. If you cant stand the heat - stay out of the kitchen.
DeleteAnyway - there are rules on CF. People are getting banned. And - there are Rox fans who arent Lin fans who still defend Lin against haters who nagg all the time. There are people (long time members with thousands of posts) who put statistics and data together to prove that Lin is a good player. So - its not that bad.
More and more people actually see Lin for what he is -> great player with potential to be even greater.
On the other hand - I hate it when people come here to nagg about Lin. I dont mind people criticising Lin but they dont have to point out every single TO like it would lead to the worlds ending and they defenitely dont have to insult Lin on a Lin fansite. Who do they think are?
BTW:
There are people on Twitter who say (to Jeremy) that he shoudlnt be an NBA player. There are people commenting on ALL JLin videos (coffeetime, geraldlin) just to insult Lin. Turnover machine, chink, whatever.
Whats wrong with those people? Do they even realise they are stalkers? They dont seem to know that what they do is considered illegal in some contries...
Lol, eb5, you can't really use that argument. This site is a Lin Fan site, therefore, by definition its participants should be biased in favour of Lin. Clutchfans is supposed to be a Rockets fan site, and by definition should be biased in favour of the Rockets.
DeleteYou're essentially indirectly relabeling Clutchfans to LinHaters, or HardenFans in order for your justification of why Clutchfan posters are reasonable, if you choose to compare their bias and the "biases" of posters on this site.
racism at its best -.- jealousy at its worst
DeleteMore clearly put, no one here is under the delusion that they're not a LOF, where as in ClutchFans, some posters tend to take to the high horse under guise of objectivity, while unduly diminishing Lin's game, and the characters of "LOF"s. This guise gives them a sense of entitlement, and a false sense of justice that Lin fans, and Lin's game should be put down on a consistent basis. They are egregious to the point where many, MANY, non "LOF"s are now calling their shit out, and a great number of them have switched sides to "pro Lin".
DeleteJK, that is what I am saying. I understand what this site is for, namely for Lin fans, and that CF is for Rockets fans. I understand why long time CF posters get tired of Lin fans taking over their CF site. Nothing wrong with that. Do as Romans do when you are in Rome.
DeleteYou think you're fooling people here, eb5attorney, but you're NOT.
DeleteI know exactly why you are here and what your goal is here.
It's a good thing we do not know each other in real life. And with that, I respectfully salute you as a worthy opponent.
No, I think many CF posters understand Lin's strengths better, not because they have been called out. People rarely change their views over Internet discussions. If Lin keeps on playing well and Rockets win more often than not, they will love him. Most of them actually like Lin even when they criticize aspects of his game.
DeleteThis argument between us, eb5attorney, has ZERO TO DO with Jeremy Lin.
DeleteEven with your previous post, you openly seek to degrade people on this forum. And every time you seek to trash people here for your own sport, you'll find me defending this place.
Your type, I know very well. Battled them all my life. I respect you.
Man KHuang, I don't understand why you have to view me as an opponent. I am someone who likes Lin differently from you. I do apologize if you disagreed with some of my posts, but I do respect everyone's views.
DeleteI understand what @eb tried to say.
DeleteCF fans have the "what have you done for the Rockets" glasses while we have the "what you have done for Lin" glasses. Most knowledgeable CF fans have their eyes opened recently when Lin is allowed to play PG and showcased his defense.
Don't let some CF trolls sway your opinions to be CF vs Lin. Lin is winning them over Lowry and Dragic with his plays. Lately I see 80% positive, 20% negative for Lin.
Pretty good, eb5attorney, playing the sob story. But utterly UNCONVINCING, as usual.
DeleteYou are not fooling anyone, least of all ME. And nice try "apologizing" to me when I didn't ask for one and wouldn't want one from you anyway. So no, your apology to me is outright rejected because it's false and we both know it.
I appreciate your presence here. I know you fully understand that.
KHuang, you are the most unique poster I came across. Let's stop boring others with our personal posts. I commend Terry for what he said but you turn it for something else. Just leave it at that.
Deleteeb5 - Lin fans didn't take over CF though, lol, that's what so perplexing. If you go through the threads, it always begins with some dickbag unduly putting all the blame on Lin, or making retarded statements like John Wall is so much better than Lin, or Lin is a joke, or Lin isn't worth his contract, or get Lin out of the Rox. At which point, some more vocal LOFs jump in to his defense, and to put down the original, irrationally spiteful and ignorant poster who started the hatefest anyway. There aren't many threads that start with "JLin is the best, fuck all y'all", made by an LOF.
DeleteLike I said earlier. It's the sense of entitlement from having an earlier join date; total disregard for real ability demonstrated by Lin; total ignorance of the impact Lin has on the team's effectiveness; total blindness to all the unequal treatment Lin's received from Sampson, McHale, and the Refs, as well as his poor usage; and last of all, the ever present urge to put him down in comparison to other PGs that any SENSIBLE NBA fan knows isn't true. Because of these reasons, the more apathetic/rational, and in-the-beginning, Lin-Doubters (Nook, Agg, Roxxx, Hermanos, etc) have come around, and have started trolling the trolls, and really jumping in in defense of Lin, against dipshits like Rockets12, King1, Dei, Dudewah, Duluth, Shayan. These hateful, disappointed-in-life-so-turned-trolls may be the minority, but due to their determination and tenacity, they induce so much noise that the overwhelming impression is that CF supports singling out Lin. And as Lin fans, and NBA fans who follow games diligently, are well versed in what stats mean, understand the positional differences and expectations between roles, and are a lot harder to distract, we can only assume that they're doing so for one very obvious reason. This is only reaffirmed by the aforementioned trolls, as they don't carry on any intelligent conversations regarding Lin's skill, and if others try to do so, they resort to calling them idiots, or absurd for trying to compare Lin to "Much better guards".
Psalm, that's what I tried to say. Perhaps you said it better.
DeleteI'll take that as a COMPLIMENT.
DeleteI'm not bored by our personal war at all. Remember that I feed off positivity. I also know what you're trying to pull, as do many people here.
We both understand that a Jeremy Lin fansite is going to attract people as widely opposite as you and me. I totally appreciate what you contribute to this board.
And eb5, to put things in perspective, the reason (as perceived by me) why KHuang comes off as being so irrationally fervent and quick to rage is (according to his previous posts) that he's been subjected to his share of racially motivated acts of aggression and repression.
DeleteNaturally, having grown up in such an environment, he identifies with those who seem to be suffering similar torment. When some CF posters go on their hatefests, without immediately being reprimanded - in fact, out right supported at times - by others, it builds the impression that CF supports this kind of activity.
Now, when you come on this board, and you're defending the CF fans, without acknowledging in detail and in genuine sincerity that the problem of racist trolls exist, it seems like you're defending everyone on CF, and he naturally identifies you as being in the same bucket.
You really can't gloss over the bad by stating that the majority are good - it might be true, but you still need to make as much effort in acknowledging the unfairness in a situation, BEFORE going on to defend the good.
JK, what you say is true, but I can understand some long time CF posters resenting Lin only fans from posting too many Lin related stuff there, just as some people on this site might get upset if people posted too often how great is Harden or Parsons.
DeletePsalm - I agree, the situation is getting much better. Nook is really changing my attitude towards the site with his campaign of calling out dipshits. However, it's hard to buy into the notion of "don't get the bad ones get to you", especially when (prior to now) it didn't seem like any non LOFs ever rose to Lin's defense.
DeleteIn my view, letting the ignorant and abusive few go around bullying others without rising to the defense of those being bullied doesn't make it okay, even if the bullies are few, and the neutral many.
The best factor in this situation is that the neutral are now doing exactly what I said, and are helping maintain civility in CF. Having said that, I still get urges to punch King1 and Dudewah in his left nut every time he posts anything.
eb5 - What I'm saying is that those posts pale in comparison to the posts going the other way, and the support you see in pro-Lin posts is nothing compared to the support you see in anti-Lin posts, and that's the problem.
DeleteAgain, all this is changing, and I love it. However, I just wanted to give you the perspective of someone who identifies with Lin (underdog, Ivy league background, intelligent play, perseverance), who hasn't suffered from racism but is avidly outspoken against true forms of it (not including non-repressive, non-malicious humour in moderation), and is a stickler for fairness, and the reasons why I hated CF prior to now, but have started slowly changing my mind.
Jk, you're being PLAYED by eb5attorney.
DeleteYou know that.
And who are these people here that would "get upset" Harden and Parsons posts here, eb5atttorney?
DeleteYou talk big, but you run fast. I dare you to out up some names.
You're so PREDICTABLE!
@JK, what I noticed earlier in the season was some exuberant Lin fans had strong emotional posts in CF on asking why coaches/long-term fans did not have appreciation of Lin's game and misused him, ending with statements to trade him. This begot a strong emotional reaction from long-time CF fans upset thinking that Lin fans put Lin above Houston Rockets and they didn't understand what Lin can do as we know very well.
DeleteOf course there were trolls/provocateurs mocking Lin fans to make long-term CF fans hate LOFs even more.
But fortunately it has changed with Lin's improved play due to strategy change by the coaches.
If I could, I would plead Lin supporters to refrain from making emotional posts especially with trade request because it has the opposite effect of convincing old Rocket fans that Lin has contributed much. I put myself in their shoes and I understand the strong reaction and suspicion.
Torocan, mike_lu and Nook as Rox fans have used stats and good analysis to make a good case of Lin's contribution so that's how we will get along.
In the meantime, there are deranged fans like King1 and others who enjoyed the pleasure of trolling and getting Lin fans upset. Why entertained fools to give them satisfaction? I've seen good members advising Lin fans to put them on ignore list since they're clearly insane beyond logic :D
@psalm:
DeleteIve always liked the discussions on CF. Of course - there are idiots but read this:
"I think it's harder for Jeremy to be less turnover prone because of his shorter wingspan and small hands... if only he was Jerome Lin that would be beast."
Response:
"Why do you think he has small hands and short wingspan? he is 6'3" and has the 3rd longest wingspan of any PG his height, his wingspan is equal to someone that is 6'5". His athleticism and physical attributes are very underrated.
But oh yeah, I forgot, just because his eyes are a different shape that means he's scrawny, small, unathletic and has short arms (end sarcasm)"
LOL. I may not like all posts but I always find ones that are great and people do have humor.
Yah if Lin would open his eyes once in a while, he might make a decent pass instead of turning the ball over. His eye lids might be blocking his long range vision that's why his shots are so limited in range. And, his peripheral vision must be so limited by his small eyes, that's why he always steps on the 3pt line when shooting a 3.
Delete@Willydilly - I saw that one too, the concluding statement was hilarious. Some posts on CF really do rally the heart.
Delete@Psalm - Yeah, those three are my favourite posters. I like vanityhalfblack too, but mostly because of the humour.
My problem is I have a hard time standing idle while I perceive injustice, and I am perturbed by others doing so. I'm fanatically against the concept of "ignore the bully until he goes away," speaking of which, is a perfect segue to my analogy.
I compare CF, prior to Nook and others taking an active stance against the haters, to a classroom full of mostly normal, unoffensive children, but with 3-4 disgruntled, jeering, bullies. In this situation, I don't think it's okay for the rest of the kids to watch the bullies belittle a victim without objecting to the acts, and I would think negatively of the entire classroom as a result. In the specific case of CF, the spark that changed the atmosphere - aside from Lin being played properly - was in my mind largely owing to Nook. The under-the skin commentary prior to his/her speaking up irks me, no matter how hard I try to ignore it.
I don't find the argument that over-flattering a player is the equivalent of unduly insulting a player. In one case we have a abundance of positivity - and potentially delusion - whereas in the other case, we have a glut of negativity. Positivity doesn't diminish anyone, negativity does. That is, unless we were to take the argument that by being overly positive towards one player, we're robbing the thunder of other players; which, if taken by these CF posters, would be quite hypocritical, as one of the main arguments from these folks is that LOFs are over-sensitive.
@eb5attorney,
DeleteActually, I can't understand (the minority of) CF responses at all. As a fan of any pro sports team from my home town, I can't remotely imagine reacting to a new player like Lin in the way they have. Defending them comes across as kind of pompous and is the reason some folks here have a hard time trusting you. Giving the appearance of neutrality is no the same thing as being right.
@willydilly, I love that response :D
DeleteThe witty sarcastic response yet full of facts is necessary to cure any 'ignorant' and 'racist' comments by any posters, at CF or even here.
@JK, I don't doubt that some CF posters are racist, ignorant and simply can't see that Lin will become a great PG no matter evidence is presented of them. These people we can only ignore.
IMO We have to understand first that most CF members are die-hard Houston Rocket fans who did not watch Lin's game even during Linsanity. Lin's improved play and presenting convincing stats (i.e. 3rd steal leader) will help to open some of their eyes. I already saw someone pointed out that when Lin played PG and take at least 3 TOs with lower team TOs as the result, Rockets wins meaning that Lin made calculated risk to make plays rather than trusting Parsons/Delfino/Harden to make TOs to make plays. Most CF members are slowly getting to understand Lin's strength as a PG to orchestrate offense much better than Harden. Having Calvin Murphy speaking up to let Lin be the PG was definitely a big factor to shift their thinking.
@michale, there are definitely some thoughtless, racist, ignorant remarks in CF forum that are indefensible. But we can only cure ignorance and racism with healthy discussion and reeducation that unfortunately require our patience and logic. It's definitely easier to lash out on fools but then I remember the end goal is to persuade most logical and common sense people to open their eyes so I hold my tongue and choose my words wisely.
sorry *@michael*, not @mchale :)
Delete@Racha,
ReplyDeleteI'm sorry for being so mean the other day. I'm sure everyone agrees it's more fun to have more points of view. Downplaying Lin's athleticism is a hot button for me because it's such a perfect example of the gap between the truth and perception and how damaging that gap can be.
Michael, takes a big man to apologize. I do hope Rockets will make it to playoffs though.
DeleteWhat a champ.
DeleteIt's cool man. We all get a little feisty at times.
Deletepfft.
Deleteeb5attorney would NEVER apologize to any ody here.
How HYPOCRITICAL!!!!!
Kudos all around!
DeleteKHuang, that's because I never called anyone unnecessary names, unlike you. Can't apologize for disagreeing with some views.
DeleteYou?
DeleteYou are the BIGGEST HATER here.
You feed off negativity. You want to see people grovel. That's what you're here for.
I'm the opposite of you because I am an EMPATH. That's why you keep running headfirst into me every time you seek to kick people down the stairs.
I know what you are, eb5attorney.
The very fact some people don't take you is because you misrepresent what people say. Don't take things so personally or think you are the protector of others because others can take care of themselves.
DeleteYou just can't FLAMING people, eb5attorney, and I can't stop defending them.
DeleteThat's just how you and I are constructed. It's all good.
We can agree to dislike each other. I still respect you.
I never flamed anyone; don't even know what the word means.
DeleteThat's a typical and predictable response coming from your type, eb5attorney.
DeleteWe'll just continue sparring as we always have and always will.
eb5: You MUST apologize to Khuang for all your racist remarks.
Delete@ michael, if you don't see racha recently, probably means lin is having a good game!
DeleteEtane, eb5attorney doesn't have to apologize to me for anything.
DeleteI admire him, in a way.
@eb5attorney,
DeleteLike, KHuang, I find it hard to be nice to you. There are many types of Internet trolls in the world, and there's a particular type that repeats that they are a fan of some thing, but constantly make subtle snide comments about the supposed object of their interest.
I can never fully shake the idea that you are one of these. I also often suspect that you have sock puppets on this forum, perhaps even @racha.
The reason I apologized is because I don't like to take the chance that both of you are real people who actually believe the things you say. It annoys me that the dedicated trolls of the Internet make it hard to trust people and be kind, but then I remember that trolls' self-confidence is a brittle thing too and they go through a lot of pain probably to waste time uplifting themselves by tormenting others.
The main reason I have a hard time shaking the idea that you're a troll is that you don't seem to grasp the reasons that Lin is a good player and it seems like you hold on to your wrong-headed views no matter how much objective evidence is supplied to you.
And then I remember that humans evolved to be contrary for a reason. Even if it's just trolls, we are forced to revisit and re-hone our understanding and communication of problems and solutions until they're polished like a fine gem. And it seems like we're entertained by the polishing.
So while your reasoning is often not very sound and easy to refute, it's still useful. Even pro baseball players regularly hit off tees. I will try to treat you as if you believe what you say, but I can't say I don't chuckle when @KHuang acts like the devil on my shoulder.
Are we back on the fighting and flaming subject again. As a poster and as some one who reads this site, I tend to agree with some of Racha and ebattorney views. I can't say I can stand those other posters who call other people racists and post aggressive remarks because of the different views out there, compliments or critical comments towards Lin. He's just like any of us Asians out there. We all grew up with much racism and prejudice towards us. Some of us cope better than others. There's no reason to hate or get into tit tats over different views.
DeleteMichael, I don't have sock puppets. The only place I care to comment on JLin is here and defending JLin on bleacherreports and seldomly on ESPN and use the same scree name. Also, it has been a while since I've posted comments at BR. As for clutchfans, I don't even visit that site just to read and post stuff. Actually, the only time I've visited CF is when someone here post a link to CF. Anyways, I appreciate your openness.
Deletelet me chime in my 2cents
Deleteperhaps @eb and @racha can come off as over-critical Lin fans to some people when they shared their perspective on what Lin should do to get better without preceding them with much acknowledgment (relative to positive criticism) on what he has done well so far. But I'm confident from reading the history of their postings that both have good intentions. Noone spends that much time to think and analyze things consistently without intending for Lin to do well. But they're no doubt better than some people who just showed up to bash Lin when he's not doing too well.
Perhaps KHuang and eb can bury the hatchet and smoke the peace pipe some day :D
No peace pipe for me and eb5attorney, psalm234.
DeleteI respect him too much for that.
John Ly, Jeremy Lin's story is filled with racism and hatred.
DeleteIf you cannot handle that kind of discussion here, this is the WRONG PLACE for you. But I think you're more than capable of handling it.
Personally, I respect and even like everybody here. That includes everybody that I've battled with. I admire the tenacity and intelligence of the people I openly disagree with.
I post here, so I can take the heat. I'm not gonna whine about it like a pansy either.
No sock puppet for me either. When I post on CF, I post as "webattorney". I personally also find Terry and KHuang hard to like no matter what they say because they engage in criticizing persons rather than positions. I rarely tend to do that because if we do, we would all end up calling each other idiots.
DeleteWhat I like about you, eb5attorney, is that you don't try to hide who you are or what your intentions are.
DeleteI totally respect and admire that.
Most of all, I don't like internet warriors. I admit even posters I don't like have good analysis of NBA and Lin's game. I am not a NBA follower, although I would say I am a follower of human drama and great sports competition.
DeleteCheck The Ticker
ReplyDelete#Rockets Jeremy Lin has recorded an NBA-high 38 steals in the month of January. #Lincriminating
Another Lin statistic where he LEADS THE NBA in some category.
DeleteLike Michael Terry said, Lin is an AMAZING NBA athlete who does amazing NBA things like this.
Wow - where can I find that ticker? I wanna see for myself!
Delete2nd-ranked Ball Thieves at 96 for the season tied with Conley, only 4 behind Chris Paul. #Lincriminating LOL
DeleteLin is absolutely criminal :) Whenever he goes to town people should better hold on to their wallets :)
DeleteHe would lead the statistics if they hadnt benched him so often :)
JLin's stealing is one of the fun part of his game I like to watch, he is really a naughty boy had to get rid of.
DeleteHis stealing indicates that he has a sixth sense that tells him what his opponents are going to do -> pure talent!
DeleteHe is Linpan the 3rd. Woohoo I created a funny Lin pun.
DeleteWho is Linpan? Or - what is Linpan?
DeleteI watched 3-4 minutes of youtube clips before this Linsanity thing started and the most startling skill Lin possessed in my opinion was his ability to read passes and steal the ball, and/or knock the ball away from bigs in particular from the weakside creating loose balls and turnovers that teammates can often pick up.
DeleteHe looks so much quicker in his reaction times/coordination in stealing the ball and getting a hand on it that it just jumped off the screen - this was at the college level too...How no expert could see that is simply beyond me.
I still believe Lin can average 3 steals per game but that was back when I expected him to play 35-40 min on a Rockets team where he'd be the man, at least being the lead guard on the team. However, Lin is a legit top 5 steals guy no matter what situation he is placed under.
I think Lin is a "B" grade defender athletically and has some issues man to man/on ball at times, but his steals ability/ball knocking skills make him a B+, A- overall defender all things considered. Lin is also physically tough, a blue collar type defender who takes contact and charges. He shatters the Asian/Euro stereotype of the non-physical, finesse player. One thing no NBA media guy is tried to pull is call Lin "soft." At least they give him that much.
A spin on Lupin the third... the gentleman master theif...
Deletehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lupin_III
@Etane:
DeleteThanks. I cant help but think that the best jokes are those that need explaining :)
@swingline:
"stereotype of the non-physical"
I dont think thats the stereotype. The stereotype is that asians arent AS phsycial AS... and I dont even blame the people who think so that much.
Even asians in asia have that perception. It is said that asians arent as tall, as strong, even as hairy as white or black folks. My opinion is -> its a half-truth.
People in south east asia tend to be smaller. That however doesnt mean that they are genetically programmed to be smaller. I am 100% asian and I grew up in europe among europeans. My food intake therefor was all european. Bread, lots of meat, cheese and potatoes. Im 6 feet tall - I have wide shoulders and wide hips. I am also a foot taller than my father. I have hair on my belly and chest (which Id rather not have).
Same goes for my cousins in europe and USA. They are all at least a foot taller than their parents (some taller than me) - even the girls. Look at JLin. His father used to give him milk and steaks so he would grow tall - look at him now.
I grew up fighting and playing basketball with white folks so I wouldnt say Im not physical.
Being physical or not, being tall or not is therefor a question of envirement, upbringing and food intake. It is ignorance that make people think that asians are "inferior" because of genetics.
Now - I do hate stereotypes, I hate haters and I hate racists. But I do partly blame the asians in the USA to not prove them critics wrong.
Asians all over the world have proven themselves to be equal. Im not talking ping-pong or badminton. Im talking marathon runners, weightlifters, baseball players, martial arts, tenis players, swimmers, soccer players (some are worth millions $$$) and even male adult entertainment stars (with big ones!).
Where are all the asian-american basketball players? Why arent there any famous asian football players?
What was that comment by Bill Warrell the other night when Lin was playing against the Hornets? Lin steals so much on Bourbon street that they should call the cops on him. Was that the quote. Somebody help me out on this.
Deletehaha, this is so funny
DeleteI don't just consider Lin an "A++" defender, I also consider him the best defensive guard I've ever seen in the NBA . . . and I've seen A LOT of truly great defensive guards like Michael Jordan, Dennis Johnson, Michael Cooper, Joe Dumars, Alvin Robertson, Maurice Cheeks, and Jason Kidd.
DeleteAt the NBA level, the best defensive guards get scored on A LOT. Yet they contribute mightily to their team's overall defense. Lin contributes so much to this weak Houston team.
Lin is nasty defensively in two ways:
1) He completely stops dribble penetration, especially in isolations where opponents are finally realizing that Lin is a horrible isolation target who'll often get the stop. That means no foul trouble for the big men or easy handoff points for opposing big men.
2) Lin plays the passing lanes as good as any player I've ever seen. Not only that, he sees plays developing and is constantly talking on defense. This allows the Rockets to intercept the ball and race down the court for easy fast break scores.
I cannot say enough about how great a defender I think Lin is.
@willydilly - got it from Twitter, had to forward it because it's good stat lol. I shared this on all Jeremy Lin websites I subscribe too
DeleteLinsanity Movie Q&A:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=UdFXbKpydhQ
Thanks for sharing. Please take a moment and listen to the answers.. the guy should write a book one day and no doubt it will be a best seller !
DeleteJlin may never reach the Hall of Famer status when his playing career is over but gee whizz his legacy will last forever when his contemporaries will be forgotten in years to come.. he is truly Linspirational !!
"may never reach the Hall of Famers"
DeleteSeriously?
I did say may never not never ever.. gee sounds like a taylor swift song .. ha ! ha!
DeleteOh god - Im just realising that JLin is kind of "slow".
DeleteA woman said that the ladies would want to know if hes still single. JLin dodged the question and she was like "so whats the answer?". She was pretty agressive :)
I think she was hitting on him and he didnt realise it :)
dodge the question maybe imply he is not single any more? He got that question pretty often!
DeleteI dont think jeremy is slow but in an awkward situation where you dont feel like discussing the topic, one tends to ignore or pretends to ignore the question.As you have said, the woman might be hitting on him and im sure jer is aware and to stop her from getting delusional, he just avoided to answer the question.
DeleteWell - he dodged the question by saying that people usually ask him that when hes in asia. She then asked again and he said he was single.
DeleteJLin is a little naive/dorky at times. Like when journalists asks him whether he thinks that Kobe now knew who JLin was. It was a rhetorical question that was supposed to be funny - no answer needed - everbody laughed - but JLin did answer the question and everybody stopped laughing 8)
Jeremy is definitely not "slow." He's diplomatic and humble in his answers. How do you think he was suppose to answer the Kobe question? "F**K yeah Kobe knows who I am now I just dropped 38 on his ass!" Even a non-answer would seem arrogant. Instead he plays it completely humble. That's not being "slow."
DeleteOk I'll give you dorky, that's part of his angle. Definitely not naive though. He's answered thousands of questions. If he was naive we be seeing a lot more clueless answers.
Delete@Dave T:
DeleteA smile would have been enough to answer the Kobe-question. The journalist pretty much passed him an alley oop. All ne needed to do is dunk to look good!
To answer the question with words ruined the joke :) Dont you get it?
Again - Im not saying hes dumb or anything. He cant be. Hes an asian, a Harvard grad, made it to the NBA, a multi-millinaire age 24...
But - at times he is like a little kid... a little dorky and a little naive :)
BTW:
DeleteDont take it too serious. Naive is not bad. In fact - naive can have different meanings. Dont know which one you are focused on. I just looked it up in my dictionary (cause english is not my first langauge - not even my second) and it has 13 different meanings - some are a little condescending but most arent...
Honestly, I think Lin is more in charge of his PR packaging than meets the eyes.
DeleteRemember that story about him being too egotistical while in high school? I think he not only became humble from the experience but also learned about how not to come across as egotistical.
@willydilly It's cool, I know naive and innocent is not a bad thing. It's just that I know that type of people, and I really don't Jeremy is. He's gone the total humble route, maybe even gone overboard with it, but that's what he's doing when the reporter passed him the alley oop. Instead of a flashy dunk he caught it, came down, then did a basic humble layup. Just my opinion though, it's cool if we differ. :)
DeleteWow mavs with 8pt lead now tied with blazers.
ReplyDeleteMavs falling apart in 4th...Bad bad TO by Vince Carter after a 3pt from Price.
How is this significant? Want blazers to lose so Rox gets more breathing room :)
Its painful watching them play tho both teams sooo slow...
DeleteLOL Batum hits a 3 at 24secs to tie and Nowitzki hits one at 11 secs now 104 - 101 and Aldridge hits a 3 now tied 104/104
DeleteMan I hate Blazers.
Omg Aldridge hits one at 1.5 secs and win by 2pts.
DeleteOk I hate Blazers, seriously, those guys are like zombies, they just don't die no matter how far behind they are.
I hope Rox blows them out next time :/
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ReplyDeleteLakers: Kobe stops hogging the ball, does a great job dishing along side Nash and plays as unselfish as I've ever seen him. Lakers wins last 3 games and Kobe's assist numbers skyrocket.
ReplyDeleteRockets: Harden stops hogging the ball, leaves majority of play making in Lin's hands and is just an assassin on court thanks to gaps created by Lin's offense. Rockets wins last 3 games, and Harden's TO drops by an order of magnitude and his ppg goes back up.
Hmm...
even Kobe said he felt relaxed and game's easier when he's one of the facilitators..
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