Friday, January 25, 2013

Rockets @ Hornets Game #45 2nd Half Game Thread

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  1. James Harden with 7 TO and Lin with 2 TO and 4 steals. Way to go Lin. I wonder if McHale will pull Lin again this time?

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  2. McHale is starting TD over Beverly in this game. I wonder what he saw in the films to change his mind. Will this trend keep on or is McHale going back to his old ways again?

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    1. With mchale, there is no guessing. There is absolutely no rationale in his decisions. Just watch and be amazed.

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    2. Maybe McHale saw Ty Lawson blowing by Beverley at will last game.

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  3. Is it me or did Jeremy Lin lose muscle mass compared to when he was on the Knicks?

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    1. I think it's an illusion. Lin's lower body got bigger, so maybe he's "lighter" proportion wise up top.

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    2. during summer he worked out to lose muscle and around 10 pounds for his knees.

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    3. He lost some weight in the off season. He also looks more sculpted. I think JLin mentioned in the preseason that McHale had them practicing harder than he ever had.

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    4. He lost fat, which makes a person look skinnier. Not muscle lol. That's the last thing you want to lose.

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  4. Vasquez with only 2 points so far in this game and 2 TO. Houston guards must be playing subperb defense on him.

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    1. Both Gordon and Vasquesz average about 15ppg. You sure can't tell by the box score tonight. Difference? Harden gives up more points than Lin.

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  5. Lin is back on the positive for this game so far +12 and Harden is +6. Harden's assists is almost near Lin's assist number now. WTF?

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    1. He might have gotten 5asts and 5TOs playing PG in the 2nd Q

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  6. I loved how PPat had a fist pump when Parsons got an and-1!

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    1. Don't know. McHale may intend to let JLin play the entire 4th.

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    2. That's my question too.can someone give an answer? Is it time to rest base on mchale's time table?

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    3. It is earlier than in previous games, when JLin would be subbed out at around 3 minutes left in the 3rd.

      It might be McHale staggering JLin and Harden's minutes.

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  8. I am noticing that there is more spacing in this game now than in the previous games. The Rockets players are attacking the basket and kicking out to open defenders on the wings. This is the way the offense should run. Not Harden Ball. The Rockets players must have voiced their opinions during the film session and that is why McHale is willing to at least try and change the game plan for tonight.

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  9. Is Jeremy done for the night? You never know with this idiot team.

    They already tried taking the ball out of his hands TWICE in this game alone despite the offense looking brilliant with him at the helm.

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  10. Howard Chen:

    Ball swung around ALL OVER the place. Really seems like the team's just straight focusing tonight

    Running, running, get the ball to the open man... McHale's philosophies are being executed. And the Rockets r up 19.

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  11. Lin's played a solid all around game. Hopefully he gets time to rest and prepare for the Nets tomorrow.

    No point in playing him with a 20 point lead.

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    1. He doesn't need rest. He needs to play and gain confidence and boost his stats so McHale and Morey stop disrespecting him.

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    2. dude, they're gonna keep disrespecting lin regardless. Lin needs to have 30 30+ games in order for them to stop disrespecting him.

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    3. Heh, you're right.

      But at least if he plays, we get to enjoy fun-to-watch basketball instead of boring as hell Harden-ball.

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  12. I hope I am not saying this too prematurely. But, you know the saying put up or shut up? PPat didn't shut up and he's putting up. He's deserves his swagger more than anyone else.

    Houston's spiritual team leader?

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  13. Amazing they don't pass back to Lin, especially Harden. I think he can sense Jeremy is playing well. What an A hole.

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    1. Very true. It's clear he'd rather lose and put up "Kobe numbers" than win and put up "Eric Gordon numbers."

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  14. during this losing streak, lin disappears. I don't understand.

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  15. If Houston can preserve their lead, McHell should put the bench in for some garbage minutes. Anderson and Aldrich etc. needs more looks.

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    1. Don't count on it. Knowing McHale and his idiotic thinking, he is not going to sub anybody in until there is at least 1 minute left in the game.

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    2. Yup. If we had confidence in McHell's bench rotation ability, we wouldn't be talking about it right now.

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  16. They need to get 20+ and just get NOH to quit.

    Gawd smith is fouling machine.

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    1. Smith got suckered. But, I'd like to see more Lin/Smith plays.

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  17. So they put JLin back in with under 1 minute left after the Pelicans, I mean Hornets, cut it down to 11. Is this recognition that JLin is a good D man?

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  18. LOL 2PAT PLAYING D!

    OMFG I AM SO HAPPY!

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  19. Lol, did everyone hear PPat say "Gimme that" right before he blocked Rivers?

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    1. Lol yep. That was hilarious.

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    2. Rivers looked like a kid in a man's game...LOLOLOLOL!

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  20. Patterson owns the PnR defense rotation.

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  21. Lin is put back to fix the mistake. Lead was coming down in the 2nd Lin fixes it. Lead going down on the third, Lin in and fixes it. I hope you are picking up what I'm trying to say!

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    1. Lin with 11 points and 5 steals.

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    2. Correction, 13 points after that steal and lay up.

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  22. WOW - I like how they closed the 3rd quarter! Intense D!

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  23. Lin leads the team with +14. Would be much higher had McHell do a better job staggering Lin and Harden's minutes.

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  24. I like how Toney is so supportive of Lin on the floor. I rarely see James run along with Lin on fast breaks.

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    1. I always say -> gimme more Lin/TD action!

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  25. that what we talking about man, lin all the way

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  26. Howard Chen
    In fact, 6 steals is his CAREER high. So JLin is 1 off of that with a quarter to go.

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  27. Lin just calms the Rockets down. Good defensive pairing with TD and JLin. Harden is instant offense. I am cool if JLin is defense, rebounds, and assists guy.

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  28. Austin Rivers. "And 1" You need to make it in for an and 1 lol

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    1. Typical cocky rook. Better not get Lin angry!

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  29. When lin was out, i thought it was time to sleep.When he came back even for a couple of mins. the game changed instantly. Lin does wonders to the game..Like a food, lln adds a lot of spice on it.

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  30. PPatt with a double double tonight. 16 points and 11 rebounds. No Asik sighting so far in the 4th.

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  31. Wow morris is just horrid on both ends today.

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  32. WATCH AND LEARN MCHALE. YOU TOO MOREY.

    Enough of this "we only have one star" crap. Jeremy isn't Lebron or CP3...but neither is Harden. Let J-Lin be the PG and enjoy.

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    2. JLin is JLin. Thats good enough :)

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    3. even LeBron has Wade, Bosh, and Battier who helped him give Miami their second ring.

      this sounds farfetched but I'll be impressed if James can convince Kevin Durant to come to Rockets

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  33. I think McHell should rotate some big men off the bench now to get them some minutes with Lin, the on court coach. It will only pay off in the long run.

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  34. Hey, Coach McHale shaved today. He fears the Beard no more :)

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    1. Oh - you mean that was an symbolic act? Shaving the beard of -> shaving Harem of?

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    2. You need to shave the hair off in order to show your balls.

      Actually, McHell was probably in a closed door meeting to save his job. So, he had to get himself cleaned up.

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  35. Jeremy isn't looking to score at all ever since he came in for the 4th quarter. I wonder what Coach was telling him while he was on the bench "Stop scoring points ... you're making our superstar Harden look bad with your superior playmaking."

    Marcus Morris defense is making Ryan Anderson look like Dirk Nowitzki.

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  36. Terribad pass :/ Tried to be fancy.

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  37. OMG ASIK DO NOT FREAKING BRING UP THE BALL PASS IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  38. Bad PnR defense right there... can't tell who Lin was rotating with.. Oh Haren is back in the game.

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  39. HAHAHA ASIK coast to coast not quite!

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  40. Comedy of errors. Asik stole the ball, ran the full length of the court and missed the lay up. Still scoreless for the game.

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  41. Wow, Asik running the fast break.

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  42. Sigh plz remove asik now plz plz plz

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  43. Lets go Lin. Finish with 20 pts

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  44. Rockets has 6 steals, 5 from jeremy; 17 TO's , 7 from harden....hhhmmmm

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  45. Man, Lin has to make those wide 3s. And Asik is a PG in a big man's body.

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  46. Lin with 6 steals and Harden with 8 TOs.

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    1. Numbers are piling up in opposite directions.

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    2. Lin steals, harden turns the ball. I guess harden us trying to even out the game for NOH's sake

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  47. Sigh.

    Close the game Harden don't iso plz.

    Fking lame.

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    1. I was expecting this... in the fourth, Harden wants to make the big plays and be the man.

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  48. Is it just me or is anyone else notice how bad it is when Harden stops the ball. Seriously. Stop it! Or you might lose this game!

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    1. EVERYONE HERE notices, man.

      Only the Harden, the coaches and idiot majority at Clutch Fans don't see it.

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  49. Those moments are the differences with Harden and Melo. Melo would have gotten off a decent shot.

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  50. BACK TO HARDEN HERO BALL.

    MY GOD THIS TEAM IS IDIOTIC.

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  51. REMOVE ASIK NOW!!! ITS A MIRACLE NOH DIDN'T SCORE OFF HIS TOS REMOVE HIM!!!!!!!!

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  52. They should sit Asik down for the remainder of the game. He is causing havoc, not scoring and committing turnovers.

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  53. Jesus Christ JLin stop passing it to Asik...

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  54. So, apparently, McHell isn't reading the forum and acting on my suggestion to use the bench instead he puts in Harden and Asik... elbow-fu.

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  55. Wow, that's 5 straight possessions, that resulted in either a turnover or a bad shot when the ball goes to Harden or Asik.

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    1. Its so maddening to watch thank god NOH only scored ONE basket during that time.

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  56. Asik ! 25 millions for 3 years . Lol

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    1. Houston's bargain during the off season. Yup.

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    2. We need Asik on D to clog up the paint, but just don't pass him the ball on O.

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  57. C'mon Harden. Be a team player. Also do not pass to Asik. He's causing your TO number to rocket too

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  58. Wth is this? TO after TO. Come on McHale, use the dam timeout to calm them down. Coach man coach. Do your job please.

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  59. what is Asik doing in the perimeter???

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  60. Right Asik! If you turn it over - at least make an opponent bleed :) 20 TOs a game - should be enough to KO all opponents.

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  61. Harden with the ball for 8 seconds and Lin on the corner again. Asik multiple TOs. This is craziness on infinite replay!

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  62. How to finish the game... Think about letting Lin control the offense. Tell the team McHale common. Harden's ISO is killing this game! BTW, I don't hate Harden, but he shouldn't hold the ball so much.

    I think this game is clear as water. If the staff doesn't see what's going on and the difference between Harden controlling and Lin controlling then nothing will make them see.

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    1. Agree. Rox coaches should watch this game again and again. Rox at their best and their worst -> in a nutshell...

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    1. with 3 minutes to go and a lead that can be easily brought down

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  64. Bad TO by Lin here. He has to be careful here.

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    1. When JLin is stopped on the penetration and double teamed, his teammates are just standing around looking at him. They need to cut or get open for the pass.

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    2. True, he looked uncomfortable there directing the offense after giving the ball to Harden for 2 quarters.

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    3. To me what wilc says is pretty much the heart of Linsanity vs this year. Teammates that move to the right place vs teammates who stand around and watch.

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  65. Why are the Rockets making Ryan Anderson look like a slow Larry Bird?

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  66. Lin doesn't look to score at all.

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  67. Harden does not move out of the top of the key without the ball.

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  68. Yeah, that was a good play by Harden. Pass and get it back.

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  70. Wait, how did Lin pick up his 4th turn over? The box score said he has 4 TO.

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    1. He had a bad pass, then got stripped from behind.

      Two easily avoidable TOs.

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    2. Aminu got the steal while Delfino was standing around looking at JLin getting trapped.

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  72. I wanna see harden get his beard shaved.might look weird !

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  73. Houton's reporter Jason Friedman is trying not to mention about Lin in his tweet......

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    1. Didnt he make fun of us LOFs?

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    2. I think they are angry with us.
      ClutchFans.net ‏@clutchfans
      Jeremy Lin tonight: 13 points, 7 assists, 6 steals, 5 boards, 1 block, 0 fan complaints.

      lol.

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    3. I remember when I first came on this board, you LOFs were really funny. When Lin scored 20 points, everyone was saying Lin should've scored 30 points... haha.. oh how we matured.

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  74. This is what Chick Hearn will be saying by now:

    "This game's in the refrigerator! The door's closed, the lights are out, the eggs are cooling, the butter's getting hard, and the Jell-O is jiggling...."

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    1. And, still no bench rotation...

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    2. Still plenty of time to lose this game.

      With Rox you never know.

      Delfino keeping them out of reach.

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    3. Maybe the losing streak got him nervous and trembling at that thought.

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    4. I told you, McHale will never put in his bench even with a 20 point lead. He's not that smart.

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    5. Had McHell inserted Anderson and Aldrich instead of Harden and Asik... same difference but young guys get more experience and old guys get more rest.

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    6. LOL finally Aldrich is in.

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    7. I miss Chick Hearn. Wasn't Joel Myers with the Lakers?

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  75. And Lin goes to the corner again.

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    1. 4th quarter is Harden PG time.

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    2. Same old McHale. Harden ball is boring as hell.

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  76. I see jeremy smiling. He seems to be happy tonight.

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    1. Lin got to play PG - at least for a hand full of minutes. Harden ISO looked bad - so bad that a blind man would see it. Harden (during 4th) passed to Lin and set two screens for him. Im not really happy but I see a some improvement :)

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  77. And this is probably game.

    Finally.

    But man Lin take some shots in 4th plz...Just because you have 50% shooting tonight with 3/6 you still need moar shots.

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  78. Ok put the bench in McHale. What did I tell you guys? That Lin would have a good game and that the Rockets will win. Was I right or what? I hope this shows McHale what was happening in that losing streak.

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    1. They didn't learn jack.

      They disrespected and Derek Fishered him AGAIN in the 4th...and 3rd...and 2nd.

      Nothing changed. Jeremy was the game's MVP and no one will ever notice.

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    2. ok zxcvb you are exaggerating a bit. I'm a Lin's fan but let's be honest. This was a good step forward. There is still a lot to improve but is a step. I just really don't think McHale has the ability as a coach to get the best out of Harden and Lin together.

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    3. No, it's not. He's had plenty of games as good or way better than this...and it changed nothing.

      Dude, don't celebrate a Harden Hero Ball win against a sub-par team on a cold-shooting night. This game could easily have been lost against a better or hotter team.

      Notice how the better Lin played...the less they used him.

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  79. Lol Aldrich moves like the jolly green giant.

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  80. A Beverly and Aldrich siting. Harden was still in the game and now he is subbed out.

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  81. This team can go to hell.

    The MVP of the game being disrespected and not allowed to touch the ball in the 2nd half.

    He makes a TO and he's punished for the entire 4th...yeah, it's hard to find your rhythm when you don't touch the ball for ten minutes at a time.

    Harden must've held the ball for 90% of the final eight minutes.

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    1. They had a 12-15 point lead, it is like putting the prevent defense on Madden. Just give the ball to Harden and play ISO ball.

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    2. Let's hope they will at least let JLin help the Rockets win the game in the first half.

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    3. What are you talking about I'm completely confuse. Lin saved the Rockets at the end of the third quarter and started the fourth. How did Lin gets punish?

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    4. Cover 2, prevent defense on Madden is never a sure thing. You have to blitz once in a while. Meaning you can't always do hero ball to win a game even it is for prevent defense.

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  82. The game was fun when Harden was on the bench. After he came back, ehhhhh....

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    1. They were doing fine when Harden was on the floor in the 1st. There seems like there is a mutual understanding that Harden becomes the PG in the 4th. Not fun to watch.

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  83. 3/6 13pts 5rebs 8 assists, 1BS, SIx GLORIOUS STEALS and 4 TOs, one was careless one he was trying to show off.

    Yes he is all star material. Anyone say he isn't can kiss my ass.

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    1. What I liked the best was he was attacking and drawing easy fouls...Go LIN GO!

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    2. I wont kiss your ass, but he's not all-star material right now. Blame it on coaching, teammates, etc... but he's not.
      I'll give him 2 years.

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    3. @J shut the hell up ! I see where you coming from now! from your previous thread and this thread, you try to put up something! but it's not working!

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    4. It took JLin only two quarters playing his natural position to get those stats. If he were allowed to play PG the whole game, I won't bet against him putting up elite numbers this season.

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    5. How old are you seriously? First you get butt hurt, because I don't praise J-Lin as a God like you do. Then days ago you make an immature post saying that you quit this forum. If you can't take honest/constructive criticism, then do everyone a favor--don't comment at all. Grow the hell up.

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    6. Lin didn't even HAVE to play in the 4th if he didn't have to come into the game to save McHell from himself.

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  84. Mchale saying sorry to the NOH coach bec he has to let jeremy play PG tonight, otherwise he wil lose his job.

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    1. NOH coach said "I can dig it, hey how about Gordon for Lin straight up?"

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    2. LOL you guys are hilarious!

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  85. Did Patterson even play in the second half?

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    1. ?

      He replaced Asik when McHale benched him right?

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    2. Nobody played in the 4th quarter. It was Harden playing by himself. That's why everyone seemed to be invisible.

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    3. And I don't mean that Harden carried the team in the 4th.

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    4. Yah Patterson had 11 FGA at half time but it's still 11 FGA at the end of the game. So, kinda confused. Why didn't their hottest shooter have another FGA in the second half?

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  86. LOL Aldrich, Bev and Anderson each got 1min play time.

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  87. Dang JLin's stats are quite yummy across the board and he only took 6 shots. Just an awesome night for a great all around game. People are either blind or just straight up racist if they don't see Lin's a great baller.

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  88. Man, Harden NEVER SHARES THE BALL at the end of the game.

    He doesn't give a sh*t about rewarding his teammates. He just wants to shoot the FTs to pad his scoring stats. His EIGHT turnovers, seven in the first half, single-handedly put the Rockets in deep trouble.

    And the guys who saved the game? Jeremy and Patterson? Harden told them to go to hell and let him get his. What a cancer...I feel for Jeremy and the entire Rockets team. Harden Hero Ball remains the law of the land. Go to hell, James. Take McHale with you.

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  89. Omer Asik going to coast to coast!!! Now that's something I thought I would never see. Haha. But the missed layup is something I've seen a lot.

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    1. It was a good try...Though I think he was desperate to put up some points, great steal tho lol.

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  90. Damn. Lin schooled them. Played like Chris Paul on a good Chris Paul night.

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  91. The reason harden didn't turn he ball over he second have is because he stop passing the ball...

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  92. OK this might be a historical stat.

    Winning team beats losing team by 18 points.

    Winning team's leading scorer has 30 points.

    Winning team's leading scorer has +/- of only +4, lowest on the entire team excluding the scrubs (including Morris).

    Only possible in McHell's world.

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    1. this is McHells world...
      this is McHells world...
      but he would be nothing
      nothing... without Jeremy Lin...

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  93. I'm glad HOU won but they still made Harden be the PG from 2Q to 4Q except when he got benched after getting 7 TOs.

    I don't see things have changed a lot. Only in the 1Q, Lin looked very confident to set up the offense.

    Then Lin was back looking to defer to Harden to make plays. There was one play in 4Q when Harden looked at Lin and gave the ball back, possibly thinking "Oh yeah, you're the PG, here is the ball".

    I don't know if Lin and Harden have figured out who should get the ball 70%-30% or 60%-40%. This is definitely a long process for them to play together. They still look like two PGs trying to play together.

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    1. I think they have figured out that Harden will be PG most of the game. This hasn't really changed this game. Letting JLin play PG and the Rockets play team ball is just to "get everyone going" to start off the game. Once everyone feels involved, they will put the ball back into Harden's hands.

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  94. Jeremy Lin has a very good game on both ends of the floor in a Rockets win. The Bulls manhandle a good Golden State team behind some great shooting from Kirk Hinrich. Good NBA night for me.

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  95. Waiting for highlights from blaiyan and geraldlin:)

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  96. Waiting for highlights from blaiyan and geraldlin:)

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