Wednesday, December 12, 2012

Rockets vs Wiz Game #21 Game Thread

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  1. Good luck Jeremy Lin GOD Bless you and you team. Let's win this game...

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  2. Is he in the lineup for tonight ?

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  3. Man... what a barren wasteland Toyota Center is. Anyway so far still ok

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  4. disclosure: don't be mad, you'll be seeing some knee jerk reactions from me.

    interesting game so far?!

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  5. Jeremy start to have the ball more but still very patience (in a smart way)

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  6. Wooo G Smith is in, set a good screen for Lin PLEASE

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  7. so uninteresting when Lin's out.

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    1. Did Lin go out bc Washington's starter went out?

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  8. WTH early subs again! Is it because the ankle? Dammit man

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    1. They are trying to not further aggrevate his ankle sprain.

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  9. HOU announcers suck. Clyde, STFU.

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  10. i think the coaches want to play Harden and Lin in different group tonight just to see how that works.

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    1. Thats what im thinking too. Otherwise, i think they just want to rest Lin abit cuz i think Lin was complaining about the fatigue he was experiencing after the 40 mins play the other n ight

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    2. watch, they'll forget that Lin's on the bench and forget to bring him back in...kind of like the Dallas game, where Mchale forgot and thought he should have found a way to bring Lin back in.

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    3. Lin didn't complain about fatigue...that's not what I saw in today's post practice interview. He said that he was good to go for tonight's game.

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    4. they didnt forget him. They just though Douggy was playing "better" defensively that night. truth is, lin's defence isnt as good as his.

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    5. They are doing what you want them to do yet people still find ways to throw in some cheapshots at the coaches. Amazing.

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  11. Hardens going ham which is slowly deteriorating the team chemistry, since i do not see much ball movement.

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  12. They better put him back in like now...otherwise I want the crowd to start chanting his name..just saying,..

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    1. The crowd sucks. Low attendance and low energy in the building. These houston fans gave up after Hardsanity died.

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  13. It seems like back to before and James harden show again .

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    1. Ball movement is going to slow down right now since Harden is the one controlling it most of the time. Since this is happening, they will be accustom to this style where Harden is the primary shooter and when it comes to better teams they will lose miserably.

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  14. Wizards are a horrible team. Dont know how miami lost to them that day.

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  15. stop letting delfino run the point. Every once in a while yes but 3 straight possessions? No.

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  16. To me, it seems like Lin is hesitant to shoot at times. He needs to take risks like Harden.

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    1. In the plays that I saw, Harden wasn't getting double teamed in the paint like Lin was. Or maybe Harden's just faster at getting to the hoop...

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  17. Lin needs to relax on his passing.... second TO!

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    1. this is whats causing coaches to sub him for Douggy

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    2. the coaches do ruin Lin's rhythm when they do stupid sh&t like that esp. Harden just being on the floor. I really hope Lin/Harden will work soon, I'm just doubtful

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    3. His turnover rate is less compare to harden or other players on rockets so far in this season. So may not be that reason.

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  18. Man, this is a pretty awful quarter of basketball. As in, low skill and kind of boring, so far.

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    1. if it was a competitive team, Lin would be playing less...

      I'm kidding!

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  19. Asik is an awful ball-handling center. Lin and Harden will figure it out. Good thing is we know Lin can ball still. No question.

    I am psyched for the playoffs. Lin's will to win will be very very hard to stop.

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    1. Oh Stu, i love your optimism.

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    2. My favorite play was Lin outjumping Duncan to tip a ball. That level of intensity will be difficult to beat. But, during the regular season, that style is probably not sustainable and can lead to injury.

      Yes, it is better to be an optimist.

      Btw, I am a fan of Emeka Okafor now. 3.8gpa, honors in finance and college grad in 3 years

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  20. What does Harden have to do to get a foul??? Are the refs blind or paid off?

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  21. Harden let a guy drive right past him in transition. Lin is human today but Toney Douglas isn't playing well either.

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    1. Lin is human lol No HARDEN is on the floor! that's why there are many articles coming out saying they think Lin cannot play with Harden vice versa

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    2. Be honest, Lin is human today. He missed two open long range jumpers. He has 2 fouls already so it's a good idea for him to sit.

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    3. I didnt kno articles that are written based on speculation = truth. In that case all those NY articles they wrote about lin going back and forth asking rockets for more money is true too then. It has nothing to do with them trying not to injure his ankle any further.

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  22. Now Parsons makes a basket after he goes 1-5 with Lin on the court?

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    1. He's trying to make lin look bad. It's all part of his master plan.

      /end sarcasm

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    2. Ha!

      Humor is good, it's too serious in here during games.

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    3. Haha ^_^ im glad some people have a sense of humor here

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  23. patient people. Lin usually play better on 3rd and 4th qtr.

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  24. LOL at that bullshit halfcourt three by TD. Basically the only entertaining game that happened this quarter.

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  25. I really hope Jeremy gets traded. No situation is "perfect," but I really the Harden-Lin situation improving for him. They're redundant and since Harden is the $80 million man, the coaches will side with him.

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    1. Edir: meant to say "don't see the Harden-Lin situation improving"

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    2. TVN, I agree with you on this. Lin needs to go to another team where he can develop and shine.

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    3. HOU isn't trading him this soon. Imagine if he got traded and then does awesome on his new team?! Morey/HOU would be the laughing stock of the NBA for letting Lin go twice.

      It's better to accept that Lin's going to have a s.hitty season. Next year he'll be better after he's had a summer of practicing catch and shoots/off the ball stuff.

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    4. Trading Lin to another team do not guarantee it is auto good fit. That is just wishful thinking. Just give him time to adjust and learn to play with who he is with now. Houston is still a young team. Enjoy and witness the process will be very rewarding.

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    5. Don't u think anything can be solve when you have the heart for it? ..maybe in this case the intelligent from the coach added. Maybe Its not an easy coaching job too. Isn't?! Either the players or the coach. Whatever it is need to get it done then. Or else it's either the player goes or the coach.

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  26. Jeremy need to develop so one on one moves... The ball does not go back to him. Looks like Dougie's getting more playing time with the last shot

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    1. Agree. If Lin's mentality is to be aggressive only when there is a danger of him getting benched, that's a problem. I have to say honestly that Lin is partly to blame for his passive play. He passed up several open shots. I cannot say in this game that Lin did not get touches; he had them but just is not aggressive.

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    2. Maybe to creat more opportunity for his teammates? I dont think that aggressiveness in him ever change. I don't think it's the mentality he has to just play aggressive when his starting role is in danergous. That's not a good mentality for any sport player, I sure jlin is smart enough to know that. I wonder too though. What Jeremy was thinking when passing these shots.

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  27. Bickerstaff, "Jeremy is healthy."

    So that means still not much set plays?

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  28. Per position, TD is playing closer in minutes to Lin than at any other position. Sorry, this bothers me. Lin is not fatigued.

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  29. JLin is getting benched 2nd half, cause you know that trey from half court proves Douglas is the better PG!

    That's right JLin off the bench!

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  30. All great teams have a mid range game if you think about it... Jordan, Kobe, Pearce, etc... so why the emphasis on threes and drives? I know the theory and math but it does not add up.

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    1. That's where Morey is too smart for his own good. I read a detailed article on the way he thinks and I could see why he could miss some importants stuff. At least Lin could do is improve his shooting and offensive moves by taking some open shots.

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  31. lol this game sucks. both team seems lost. the announcers sucks. even douglas' half-court shot didn't excite.

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  32. See look at TD. Hes not afraid, he will take shots. LIN STOP SAYING: YOU WILL BE MORE AGGRESIVE, you NEED TO BE BE MORE ASSERTIVE AND TAKE THOSE SHOTS!

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  33. I'm getting the feeling Jeremy Lin could drop 20 on this team in his sleep. It's Clark Kent again for the time being..

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  34. its amazing how boring this game is without Jeremy. Absolutely no energy on either end of the floor

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  35. Too much Harden, not enough Lin.
    Why is Jeremy sitting on the bench at the end of the Half...
    NO Jeremy, NO lead. Got it McHale?
    Everyday, the coaching staff is losing credibility with me.

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    1. Harden is shooting 60% from the field and has 19 points. The point is to win, not to showcase Lin's skills.

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    2. I do agree that coaches are taking Lin out too often and not allowing him to develop rhythm. They should take Harden out instead, but again, Lin is partly to blame by not taking open shots.

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    3. When everything is said and done, I do believe Harden is a better offensive player than Lin; but the way coaches are taking Lin out too often is really killing any rhythm.

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    4. The point is to become a good team in the long run. Not just a win here and there. They MUST develop Lin and limit harden's shots. End of story.

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    5. Lin had touches in this game compared to previous games, so you can't blame the coaches 100%.

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    6. It's not just touches eb. They don't call plays for him. Harden gets plays called for him, Parsons gets plays called for him. Other guys on the rockets, get passes but not plays. That's the difference. Lin has potential and McHale doesn't utilize it enough.

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  36. The whole coaching staff kinna irks me... Houston seem to have a history of great scorers but not leaders after Hakeem era. They have one in Lin but seem to suppress his leadership for one man scoring machine.

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    1. Whether people want to believe it or not, Harden is the leader of the Rockets. Mchale/Sampson/all of HOU has 100% faith in Harden's play and leadership ability. Everyone else is considered secondary role players.

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    2. Agree. At least Harden is playing like he's the leader every game.

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    3. by that definition, Steve Francis a leader... but a terrible one.

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    4. It's no problem if harden is the leader of the team if he can make his teammates and the team get better.

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  37. Time to send Asik to the dumpster to he can practice in there.

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    1. He's not going anywhere. The sooner Lin accepts that Asik isn't Tyson Chandler (TC's offensive game isn't even that good), he'll be in a better position to succeed.

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  38. If enough fans threatened to boycott going to the Rockets games for not playing Jeremy, Coaches and management will get Jeremy the ball FAST. Too bad everyone isn't smart enough to band together. After all, we all are paying for the whole charade.

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    1. The ticket buyers have the power to say "NO SOUP FOR YOU" to the morons, Morey and McHale.

      And without pay, they would end up on the streets.

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    2. I'm pretty sure that people who are already multi-millionaires won't end up on the streets when they lose their jobs lol

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  39. Also, I don't know why they don't let Lin get the ball on transition plays because he is good in transition. If Lin can indeed "drop 20 on this team in his sleep", he better do that, because the way he's playing, he and Rocket players are allowing Wizards back in the game.

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  40. Some of you are delusional with the constant naive, hopeful excuses for why Jeremy keeps getting put on the bench. The coaches are NOT looking out for him, it isn't to make him better or set him up for success. They are setting him up to fail. It's so much easier if you have a coach who will put you in situations to succeed, run plays and schemes at your strengths. The Rockets do the OPPOSITE of that with Jeremy. Jeremy is a great PG who needs the ball in pick and roll, driving, attacking, distributing, drawing fouls. Yet the Rockets constantly put him in the 3-pt corner to rot and watch.

    It is FACT that Jeremy Lin has faced and generally barely overcome prejudice at every level. Only Cal HS player of the year ever to receive ZERO D1 offers. This completely translates to now. Right now he has either prejudiced or idiot coaches who don't believe in him simply because of his appearance. He has a much shorter leash than anyone else. His great games or plays get downplayed. Stop trying to make excuses for it, he's facing prejudice. We saw it before when he played for Keith Smart. Some coaches are subtle racists or bigots and it's happening to Jeremy Lin again.

    One only has to look at the past 2 months. Jeremy Lin plays great, almost has a triple double, and sits the entire 4th quarter against the Blazers. He puts up 38 on the Spurs, they sit him a lot in the 4th. He keeps getting pulled in the 4th quarter and at end of halves for bogus reasons. He is a stud in clutch situations with the 2nd best 4th quarter PER in the entire league last year after Chris Paul.

    His defense is BETTER than Tony Douglas but he keeps getting pulled in the 4th quarter or end of half supposedly for defense. It's ABSURD. Stats show Jeremy is a top 50 defender by points-per-shot in the entire league, not just point guards. Much better than Tony Douglas on defense. But he doesn't pass the "eye test". His coaches, especially his two black assistant coaches, may share some of the idiot prejudice or just plain stupidity that we saw when Jeremy played under Keith Smart and was constantly overlooked for Acie Law, one of the worst players in the league.

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    1. By the way, did anyone else see how downright GIDDY Kelvin Sampson was that Tony Douglas hit that desperation 3 to end the half? I am positive he's the driving force behind why Jeremy sits to end 4th quarters and 2nd halves. Kelvin Sampson IS KEITH SMART 2.0, another coach with a combination of prejudice and stupid who uses a biased "eye test" over any objective look at production, wins, or performance.

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  41. Can someone explain to me why the Rockets didn't sign Jerome Jordan after getting rights to him? He had awesome chemistry with Jeremy in the Knicks and their D-League stint. I think if they even gave him $1 million a year he would still outperform Asik if given the same amount of minutes. Unbelievable.

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  42. When you have so many people handling the ball, that shouldn't be, you have to expect TO's.

    STFU Clyde.

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  43. LMAO ugliest slam ever by Asik, but hey whatever Lin gets an assist its all good :)

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    1. Ugly Slams and Softest Layups. OMEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR ASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSIIIIIIIIIIIIKKKKKKKKKKK

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  44. Are the lanes more open for Harden than they are Lin? Or is Lin just too hesitant to get to the rim?

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    1. that is because everyone is drawing defender away for Harden while Harden only stand in one spot when Lin has the ball....

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  45. He needs to be selfish... That's what professional sports is about...

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  46. OMG STOP PASSING THE BALL AND SHOOT IT LIN...YOU HAD THAT DRIVE WHY DID YOU PASS IT BACK OUT TO PARSONS?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

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    1. So much for playing more aggressive. I guess aggressive means kicking the ball back out with force.

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    2. the whole team is hesitate bc Harden is on the floor, the Rockets play better with Lin ONLY

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    3. Lin is short on his jumper a lot this game. Something must be bothering him.

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  47. I don't understand why lin isn't more selfish and play like himself when harden is around. He can be so much more but he defers to harden and limits himself. Unless the coach tells him to do that I don't see why he keeps doing that.

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    1. A lot of the times it isn't really him deferring to Harden anyway. Why would Harden care whether Lin drives in into the lane or instead passes it to Delfino/Parsons on the perimeter instead?

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  48. Can someone do an analysis of the amount of iso plays gets vs. non iso?

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    1. Probably one of those weird games today where assisted shots are less efficient than isos too.

      Terrible game to watch all round

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  49. Lin trying too hard to be the ultimate team guy and ended up sacrificing himself.

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  50. It has nothing changed , just like before.

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  51. After Lin made the drive and finished with a pretty teardrop shot the commentators start saying Lin do that more.

    Like everyone else.

    On the planet.

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    1. It's not Harden's fault. He's actually playing within the flow of the offense...

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    2. If Douglas can give no craps about shooting with Harden on the floor, the main thing stopping Lin from attacking is Lin. One of the Rockets assistant coaches literally said they need to attack the basket more and stop shooting jumpers. You think they want to see Lin kicking it to Delfino for missed threes over and over again like in the 2Q?

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  52. We all wasted our night watching N*ggers bounce a ball, and a few token whites and asians running around with the intention to sell overpriced tickets and hotdogs. How productive! Hope all you Morons enjoyed it!

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    1. No, I didn't enjoy it but generally black people are really entertaining sportsmen so you might want to take off your racist lenses. If you don't like watching Jordan/Kobe/Bolt/Thierry Henry etc you are not human.

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    2. holy crap Nemo, you're losing it...

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    3. Nemo get two characters. One loving character and one crazy Nonsense character.

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    4. sometimes he loses himself. he's still finding himself...

      *finding nemo joke*

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  53. Greg Smith is a nice fit in with those guys.

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  54. I love Greg Smith's play. Much more athletic than Asik.

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    1. now we know why he doesn't play more...he picks up quick fouls.

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  55. Is the coaching staff learning? They took out the cold shooting dude (Parsons) instead of Lin when Toney Douglas came in.

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  56. you realized how young this team is when u see their parents being interviewed.

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  57. Ppat has as many rebounds as Lin...kinda funny.

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  58. I'm just glad Lin is getting more playing minutes after last game. Now just play..

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  59. Alright Lin Harden is off now can you take some shots, plz score more than 10pts, thx :)

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  60. 2mins left in 3rd quarter. Best time to rest lin for the 4th let's see what the McHale does.

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    1. Good sub by McHale. but overall very boring game. Esp compared to game against spurs.
      Lin passes better when he scores. I hope he takes it to the rim more in this quarter, if the coaches will set some plays for him...

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    2. K about 10 min in the 4th, they should sub the starters back in.

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  61. miss two free throws? shit your a.ss down.

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    1. moron HARDEN is on the floor which takes away from Lin's flow of the game, they cannot co exist

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    2. NO PROFESSIONAL BASKETBALL PLAYER SHOULD BE MISSING BOTH FREE THROWS.

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    3. Dwight Howard? Shaq? Rondo?

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  62. God, clyde drexler is annoying me.

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    1. It's not even that, he doesn't add anything to the game. Why the h.ell is he a commentator?!

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    2. He ain't Clyde Frazier as a color commentator, that's for sure.

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  63. A Lin weakness is that he tends to get bored against obviously worse teams and gears down. I saw it in person in college when Lin came to Columbia and played at half speed (and still won by 20). He did the same thing at times as a Knick, even during Linsanity.

    I'm guessing that's what we're seeing from Lin tonight against the Wizards. I'm not going to take much out of this game and wait to judge Lin against the Celtics, instead.

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    1. Add: That said, the Rockets coaching patterns are still worth tracking.

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    2. @eric, c'mon now. That's a lame excuse. If anything, he should try to be more aggressive/creative against these scrubs since he's fighting TD for minutes.

      He's not playing like he was in college/NY. He's fighting for impact minutes now.

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    3. in the world of competitive sports, that's more of a criticism than an excuse

      it's true though... lin doesn't look competitive today

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    4. k.smith,

      I agree with you, but it's just a look on his face and in his body language, and looseness in his play where you can tell Lin is playing down to the opponent.

      When he's dominating the ball as the PG, Lin can still build up his stat line even when he's spacing out in the game, but that's not the case with this team.

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      It's like the flip side of Lin's ability to gear up against top teams.

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  64. harden coming back but not Lin.

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    1. Lin's for sure not coming back now.

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    2. TD played great, but now it's time for Lin to come back. Let the Kid play for god's sake...

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    3. UGHHHHHHHHHH. Just bc your bench guy is on fire, it doesn't mean he should keep playing in a scrub game.

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    4. TD 10 shots vs Lin 9 shots.
      this is just one night after Lin's 38 point game.
      McShit and Samshit are pissing on Lin right now.

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    5. Read on Clutchfans that the coaches rarely if ever call plays. Lin's not getting shots because Lin is not shooting, not because the coaches are running plays for TD.

      Nobody runs plays for TD lol

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  66. This would have been an easy game if it was ran differently...

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  67. This is a shame that Lin not coming in.

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  68. Lin has the long top on. Have the coaches told him he is done for the night??

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  69. if you want to develop your young player, wouldn't it be good to let him play in the fourth to gain that experience, see what you have in him?

    Unless they already know what they have and they're making a statement, that TD gives them the best chance to win.

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    1. Did they bring Lin back in bc they're up by 8 (and harden/parsons are hott) or did they bring Lin in the game because they actually want him on the court to finish the game?

      Sorry, i'm doubting every decision they make, i can't help it.

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  70. TD has more shots than Lin even though he has (at the time of typing) fewer minutes.

    I know Lin has it in his head to be a pass first PG but honestly it is horribly boring to watch...

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  71. I hope the rocket lose. I have nothing against Harden but I want to see them fail with him at the helm. no lin on the 4th quarter.
    F U Rockets. It's not about the win. This is just personal. This is Racism rearing its ugly head.

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  72. Lol he gives up another drive just so he can force a miss on a bad floater. Seriously...At least he drew fouls and got 2 finally.

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  73. SWEET GOD LIN YOU HAD AN OPEN PATH TO THE BASKET WHY DID YOU TOSS IT OUT TO THE PERIMETER

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    1. BTW If you think the coaches are telling Lin to pass up on lay-ups you are a dumb person, it's true.

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  74. I wish he can hear the announcers that are telling him to take the freaking shot...

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