Saturday, December 8, 2012

Rockets vs Mavs Game #19 Game Thread

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  1. The Mavs are a below-average defensive team. No shot blockers. Lin outplayed Fisher and Collison last season. It's a good game for Lin to find his footing again.

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    1. Lin outplayed everyone last season.

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    2. Yeah hope He finds his rythm tonight! GOD Bless you Lin!

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  3. That blown Asik layup is hideous... Lin should have had an assist there

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    1. Rox lack inside game. Asik is ok on the defensive end, but is not a reliable scorer. That missed layup/dunk turned into 3pt for Dal and more importantly, the momentum.

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  4. Man this is bull, Lin got benched early again. Took the fall for Asik's shortcomings.

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    1. I find it hard to blame McHale. They went with a Lin-initiated offence and it didn't get the work done on the offensive end. Can't just blame Asik for that?

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    2. I really hate the Rockets' gameplan - either layups or threes offence though. So dull and predictable. The Mavs are hitting baskets from all over the court.

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    3. Lin got the ball to the open man...but they were missing layups/missing shots.

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    4. Why not? Hell yes you can. The passes are as good as it gets

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    5. Can't give Lin the credit when the team wins and say Lin is faultless when Lin is down, though. Parker would have gone for his own shot when he realised his teammates were cold, for example.

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    6. I understand what you're trying to say wiffle, but in this case, Lin was trying to get Asik going and it was not like he kept feeding him again and again numerous times. It was like only a couple of attempts or 3 at most, that certainly not too much. Short leash is short leash

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  5. Rockets turn to Harden to break a looooong Mavs run.

    Something seriously dysfunctional with the Rockets offence. They are bricking everything. Only Harden is hitting his shots regularly right now.

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    1. Harden is the only one in the rockets who have the benefit of superstar call. Hell I can't even remember how many minutes has it been since the last time Lin shoot free throw. Sad and wrong.

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    2. Harden's game plan when he didn't catch fire, eurostep to the rim then stick your arms out hoping to get fouled

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    3. That was Lin's game last year! He was killing teams with freethrows.

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    4. Has Lin ever gone out of the 1st qtr this early?

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    5. Harden taking over because everyone else sucks.

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    1. Delfino just did a good job on mayo but mayo's hot tonight, no one's stopping him.

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    1. Is parson's shoulder still bugging him? He hasn't been playing well.

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    2. Mavs shooting lights - 73% [11-15], Rox - 27% [3-11]

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    3. @k.smith they said at the beginning of the game that Parson hasn't been shooting weel since his shoulder.

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    4. @ k smith

      Looks like Parsons shoulder still a problem, struggled with jumper early...

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    5. oops
      *Mavs shooting lights out

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  9. lol, omg mavs making every shot.

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    1. it's absurd!! 15-20 from the field now for Mavs

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    2. Mavs show sign of cooling off at the end of 1Q, thank goodness

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    3. Highest-scoring Q1 for Mavs this season...

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  10. Someone needs to tell Lin that Asik isn't an offensive threat and stop passing to him.

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  11. Totally wasted 1st quarter. Come on Lin time to shine buddy.

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  12. Lin and Harden can't coexist right now. It's way worse than Melo and Lin.

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  13. Hey, Lin hasn't missed a shot yet!

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    1. well... never mind... I guess he did miss that free throw.

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  14. The Rockets coaches are hilarious. They made it like Lin should take the fall for his teammates' poor D, Asik's bad hands and Parsons' inability to shoot. Or maybe he is blamed for not deferring to Harden enough.

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    1. WTH is going on? Really...

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    2. I thought I'm the only one seeing that.

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    3. Gahhhd f.ucking damnit. I don't even know anymore.

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    4. Lin's hesitation to shoot caused a 3 second violation. Douglas isn't afraid to shoot.

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    5. I do think Lin could have gone to Harden a little earlier when nobody else was scoring, just to halt momentum. But the coach could have easily called that play so can't blame Lin for that! Rox have improved from 26% FG% when Li was on to 42.9% FG% with Toney D on the floor, and McHale will feel he made the right "call".

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  15. Still benched for 2nd quarter... Signs of mchale favoring Douglas?

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  16. interesting line up to start the 2nd qtr.

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    1. This lineup with no Lin and NO ASIK cutting the deficit...

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  17. Lin still benched at the start of 2nd quarter. Oh and Douglas also can't pass to our bigs, Lets keep him in the game a little longer

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  18. Not sure if Lin will get back into the game this half. Mchale thinks Douglas is the reason for the comeback.

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  19. Lin gonna be a Laker any day now!

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  20. Linsanity 2.0 in LA! Save the Lakers season.

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    1. That would be awesome. I actually didn't like the signing of Steve Nash, by now it should be obvious why he isn't a good signing.

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  21. Douglas have more minutes than Lin yet again

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  22. What the hell Mayo, he's hitting all kinds of BULLSHIT shots like that contested three

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  23. Man this is pissing me off..treating him like shit.

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  24. Lin looks way too comfortable on the bench. He doesn't think he'll be back in.

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    1. lol Lin didn't even smile when TD made that 3pts

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  25. The coaches can't say Lin is being benched because of his poor shooting or poor D, can they?

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  27. Toney Douglas is on the court because he is 6 pts 2/4 and his lack of playmaking is not too big a problem because Harden is playmaking.

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    2. yup unfortunately right now Douglas is more of an offensive threat than Lin.

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    3. Basically the problem with Douglas is that he's a 2 playing as a 1. Now he's a 1 playing as a 2. What a ridiculous world.

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  28. TD playing with all the f.ucking confidence in the world.

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  29. This is so frustrating that I may have to stop watching.

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  30. Cole Aldrich has more minutes than Lin

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    1. You know they are going to trade him.

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  31. Please trade Lin someplace else. Please. It's obvious he isn't in the Rockets' future plans.

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    1. I thought I hated the Knicks, but this is worst than the Knicks.

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    2. Why? So he can be a back up on another team? Oh wait, he's a back up on the rockets...

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    3. hey except for that Dolan not signing him and the non-existent rivalry with Melo, Lin is well loved by the NY fans.

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  32. Unfortunately, it's very obvious the Rox work better IN THIS GAME with Harden running the offence. Guys who couldn't hit a thing when Lin was on the court are now hitting their shots easily. Rox are now above 50% FG% 4mins left in 2Q. When Lin was on the court as primary ballhandler. it was around 26%.

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    1. No, it's not. It's called luck.

      Sometimes you miss open shots. Sometimes you hit contested shots.

      It evens out over he course of a game. Basketball is a game of runs.

      Jeremy is just being dissed. I can only hope this is some hardass McHale gambit -- "I'm gonna make you mad by benching you...so you start playing ANGRY again."

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    2. I don't know if those players are turning Lin out or not. When Lin passes to them, they usually miss even when wide open.

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    3. A huge part of the offence getting better was the ball going to Harden and Harden hitting his shots. Harden is not being well defended and so he is 7-9. That is not luck. The flurry of threes I concede to you because 3FG% has high variance,.

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    4. why doesn't Lin pass the ball to Harden more (i see a lot to parsons/asik/ppat)?

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    5. Padding PPat stats? [up for trade?]

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  33. I think Lin is getting benched for not passing to Harden.

    Can't say it's the wrong call since the Rockets are now closing the score.

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    1. stop it, no he was not benched for not passing to Harden.

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    2. If he is, it's very obvious that Harden works better as the primary ball handler, surrounded by 3 point shooters and defenders, not someone like Lin who takes the ball handling duties away from him.

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  34. Even though Lin is officially the starter (for marketing purposes and to keep the sponsors happy), he is effectively become Douglas' backup. Let's see if he plays with more energy coming off the "bench".

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    1. It's really hard to watch Lin like this.

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  35. We'll see who starts the 2nd half. Maybe Douglas.

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    1. Lin will start but will be yanked if they fall behind.

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  36. So much FAIL on this site for people thinking Mchale was going to be different from Sampson. Told ya'll he wasn't.

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  37. Slow, low jumping Carter makes me feel old.

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    1. Dude, you've been missed! Thoughts on Lin and playing the entire half without him?

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    2. My brother came over to visit my family a couple of weeks ago and we decided to fire up NBA 2K. He hadn't watched the NBA in a while. We decided to play 5 v 5 Blacktop. He saw Vince Carter on the list and said WOW CARTER IS STILL IN? I HAVE TO PICK HIM.

      I didn't have the heart to tell him Carter ain't a slam dunk maestro any more...

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    3. well i'm still enjoying his highlight reel on YT

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    4. k.smith,

      My thoughts on Lin's 6 min in the 1st half? Marc Stein today in ESPN, quoting a scout on Pau Gasol: http://espn.go.com/nba/dailydime/_/page/dime-121207-08/nba-scouts-saying

      "Then the issue becomes, 'Do you tweak the system to bend to the talent?' The answer is probably not. That's his baby. I think we saw in New York that D'Antoni is not going to bend the system. When I've watched the Lakers lately, it's almost like they'll run a post play or two (for Gasol) at the beginning to try to get him going, but then it's 'let's go back to what we really want to do.'

      Substitute Lin for Gasol, Houston for NY, and Sampson/McHale for D'Antoni, and the statement applies to Lin's situation. There's an unflattering statement on Lin in Stein's article, too.

      I didn't see Lin do anything wrong in his 6 min except that when he's in control of the ball, Harden isn't. It looks like the way Lin wants to play PG is not the way the coaches want the position played. Lin is intuitive, and one of the worst things a coach can do to an intuitive player is instill doubt and block off the player from his intuition.

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  38. Ok, it's clear Lin will be traded soon. I would be very happy with that. The perfect storm is set up for Lin to play for Lakers and backup Steve Nash with D'Antoni running the team. Steve Blake will be traded to Houston. Houston will have Toney Douglas start and Blake backing him up. Maybe they are trying to trade right now.

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    1. I hope he does, even to a rebuilding team. I want to see him basketball.

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    2. watch, Lin gets traded to some random place like Sacramento.

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    3. Kobe hogs the ball more than anyone. Lin would be better suited playing else where.

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    4. he'll be closer to home and the anonymity will up his game...

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    5. This is so annoying. They clearly do not value Lin. He needs to get traded. Man, I really wish NY Knicks wanted him and he was still playing there. McHale never liked him. You guys were totally right. He cut him for a reason on Christmas day last year. Plus he drains his 3 and they still pull him. Awful

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  39. I paid my league pass to watch jeremy lin play, not sit on the bench or stand in a corner. This is it, I am cancelling my league pass.

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    1. lol He's he reason I paid for league pass too.

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    2. You're a one dimensional basketball fan. Many here seem to be. Nothing wrong with that... but I'm going to call it for what it is. I realize that Jeremy will have future opportunities to prove himself. And this game doesn't necessarily paint a picture of how JL will be used in future games.

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    3. One dimensional? You don't know sh!t about me but you act like you do. Now I wonder who is one dimensional here.
      I'm a Lakers fan and my cable plan don't have a lot of Rockets games. I still watch Lakers games, just not going to spend extra money on boring Rockets games.

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    4. @Bamboo Forest

      I agree with you. I see an opportunity for Lin to prove himself. If he's not mentally tough enough to deal with this adversity then he doesn't deserve to play a lot of minutes.

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    5. Lin's going to be fine, he'll find his way back and fight through the adversity...it's us fans that can't deal with it.

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  40. It's obvious. Rockets offense is iso-Harden with three long range shooters and one big to rebound. Unfortunately, Jeremy Lin's three point shooting is the weakest part of his game.

    Unfortunately his large salary makes a trade to the Lakers VERY difficult.

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  41. When the entire team can't make shots, Lin gets all the blame. He's sitting out the rest of the game, because the team has no confidence in him. He isn't willing to shoot, because if he misses he will be benched.

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  42. Jlin is starting to look like a pansy, he needs to find his way to put his big boy pants back on.

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    1. oh god, stop. I hate these kinds of posts blaming someone for not being tough enough. Lin's a man, of course he's tough/competitive/wants to win/be on the court.

      When you don't elevate other players on the court and when you aren't a consistent scorer, you get benched because your role could easily be filled by someone like TD. Lin's role is so minimal that someone like TD could replace him...think about that.

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    2. I honestly think that's what Mchale is doing. He's embarrassing Jeremy to get him playing angry and aggressive. He's old school, remember.

      McHale's letting him know: "You better play with fire or your ass is on the bench." Maybe it'll be a good thing in the long term. Jeremy has lost his fire. He's playing "not to lose" instead of to win.

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    3. I meant I hope that's what McHale's really doing.

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  43. If JL gets traded to Lakers or anywhere else, I have a feeling you guys will still complain, complain complain.

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    1. Getting traded to the Lakers will be horrible. Kobe bitches on even players like Howard... Lin wouldn't have a chance

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    2. People thought Melo was bad, Kobe's even worse. Lin in LA with a bunch aging players is not going to make him hit his jumpers.

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  44. Shouldn't Douglas be getting tired by now?

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    1. No. He's like f.uck yeah, i'm taking over Lin's minutes/role.

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    2. the point is, unless Lin can play with confidence, he can not be on the court because he will cause his team to collapse. the role of the point guard is that important.

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  45. ABC Baller, the blame is on Lin. His lack of confidence on the court spreads, just the same as his confidence* while he was in NY spread. as much as he dislike being int he spotlight, he has to make a decision to man up.

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    1. that's because nobody is giving him a chance to man up, maybe no encouragement from team mates too, that's why confidence is low

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  46. Jeremy is being singled out for the poor start...even though he was the only starter playing well.

    This is really infuriating. This could be a "lost season" for Jeremy.

    Let him be the point guard for god's sake. Don't turn him into Derek Fisher and then complain about his output.

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  47. its not about him being singled out, he's playing the ball like he's scared to attack and that influences everyone else on his team. notice how rockets got the confidence back and caught up on the scoreboard since Lin's been benched?

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    1. Dude, that comeback has nothing to do with him being out.

      This is NBA basketball. Teams go on big runs and then go cold all the time.

      Mayo was hitting insane shots. That's why Mavs were up. Then he went cold and the Rockets got hot.

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    2. You have valid points. He needs to stop distributing and start shooting more.

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    3. they D,ed up, dude. basketball has everything to do with confidence. why do you think NY beat every team while Lin was there and their starters were out? because everyone believed in him being their leader.

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    4. @neph, his shooting sucks though, that's the issue.

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    5. the leader of a pack can not stumble and crumble.

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    6. The infuriating thing is, during the Knicks era, if the opponent was on a 11-0 run or whatever it was, Lin wouldn't be making safe pass after safe pass. He'd put his head down, run into the paint, hit a contested layup. Sometimes he'd get a plus one. Sometimes it turns into a turnover. But these drives never fail to liven up the whole arena and our living rooms, and inspire teammates to do better.

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    7. Lin - your lay up % is still pretty good so just go for it dude

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    8. Well of course he's scared man, he is on short leash. Every little mistakes will put him on the bench in a hurry. When people close to you kept telling you're no good, that can really mess up your head. How do you expect him to enjoy playing basketball like that?

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    9. distributing the ball is okay, but there is a difference between distributing the ball with confidence or with fear.

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    10. I don't know. I don't think coaches are against Lin driving into the paint. Sampson even praised him for it indirectly (I feel) that game against Utah.

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    11. Rikki, i think he has to be confident and attack, the same way he attacked while he was in NY. It shows the coach he can be on the court, but if he's on the court and cause his team to collapse 20+ points behind, of course he's going to be benched.

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  48. I was going to buy a Rockets #7 Lin jersey for my nephew ... but I don't think I'll do that just yet. No point in supporting a team who does this to their starting point guard who they took from the Knicks.

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    1. true that, why is harden not the play maker, why the blame is on lin? totally ridiculous benching decision !, to look at the bright side, lin can rest and get paid

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    2. This is what I’ve been standing by...it’s going to be hard for Lin to play with confidence when the coaching staff doesn’t trust him. Mike D’antoni made Linsanity because he actually believes in Lin. As a fan we should not question Lin's potential to play ball because we know he can.

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  49. Jeremy was providing needed points early on and then he was benched after 6 min of play... seriously i was psyched when McHale returns but goodness it is so heart breaking that Lin is not even given the CHANCE to get his groove back! For crying out loud Rockets pay the man millions just for sitting on the bench! I could just imagine what Lin feels... What's happening is much worst than when Melo came back after the 7-win stretch :(

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    1. Nah, letting Lin get back his groove is not as important as letting Harden put on his 30 point show.

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    2. Douglas is playing with more energy and less hesitation to shoot the open jumper than Lin is at this point.

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    3. Douglas has more confidence to shoot because he is given more opportunity to play... even if he makes tons of errors he is not pulled out

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    4. Come on Cara - Harden is 30 points on 10 shots! That is incredibly efficient. You go to a guy with that kind of production every time.

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    5. I am not knocking on Harden. That's why I said letting Harden be the main ballhandler is the right call for this game. I can't argue with 30 points and 5 assists and the lead.

      The thing is that imo Rockets coaches have this ridiculous thinking that Lin being on the court together with Harden would prevent Harden going off even though Lin has already deferred to Harden a lot this season.

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    6. Fair enough! I apologise - misread your statement. :)

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    7. @ Cara

      Advanced stats #s...

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    1. Lol actually only 6 minutes and 5 seconds which is almost exactly half of the first quarter

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    2. Fun facts : up to the first half of the game, Lin is the 2nd least minutes of all Rockets player playing in the first half

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    3. I think Lin died already... Rockets coaching staff killed him! Oh please... send him to a team who would actually let him play.. I waited months after his injury to see him play and not just sit on the bench!

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  51. jlin to the spurs would be nice. Pop will make use of him and spurs are fun to watch.

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  52. we all have to be patient, lin's time will come

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    1. yeah, his time will come next season after he's improved on his shooting during the off season.

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  53. if this benching goes on, lakers is also another option

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    1. If you want Lin to avoid dysfunction, favouritism and ballhogs, LA is the last place he should be at...

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  54. Rockets games are now boring to watch -- not a team sport anymore, just harden et al...

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  55. i don't understand mchale's decision to bench j for all but 5 min of the first half. dal was shooting 73% up to that point with mayo on fire. lin did nothing to get benched.

    man would love to hear lin traded to the lakers. the fit there can't get any better for both sides. morey would look pretty silly but the rockets do need a 4, and gasol would fit. can't find any rumors anywhere but maybe it's in the works? lakers struggling, no nash, and d'antoni in the house. lin/howard/d'antoni would keep showtime going after kobe retires into the sunset in 3 years. love it

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    1. koby would crush his existence the same way melo did.

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    2. Gasol doesn't want to play at the 4, he wants to play center, where he's been most efficient.

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    3. kobe is leaving soon and d'antoni BELIEVES in lin, its been done before, it can work out again

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  56. OJ Mayo was killing them early and often. They needed someone to stick guard him, and Douglas is the perceived best perimeter defender. I don't think Lin is being singled out. He actually played decent - came out aggressive today.

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    1. exactly, look at it from the coache's perspective. if your team is catching up on the scoreboard, why change it? just because he's JLin? common, now you're the one with the issue if you think that way lol

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    2. C Dub, I agree. Let's face it: TD is a good NBA defender. Jeremy Lin isn't a defensive liability, but I think TD is a better stopper. Way above average in this regard.

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  57. I think the question is will other teams get him?

    Anyway, still hoping that JLin will not be benched after the 2nd half.

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  58. Since a bunch of guys are fantasising about where Lin could be traded, my contribution is that I would LOVE to see Lin on the Denver Nuggets. What a fun team! Also I would get to see Javale McGee regularly, and who doesn't love a guy who is posterising folks in one possession and doing ultimate boneheaded stuff in the next?

    Would be awesome.

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  59. I stoped watching the Rockets. I will wait until they either:

    1.) Trade lin to a new team since they dont want him

    2.) boot the coaches and get someone who wants to develop a young promising point guard.

    Hang in there jeremy things always work out for the best to good people.

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  60. Lin playing non-impact minutes. Let's see what happens at the end of the 4th to see if he's still in the game.

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  61. Lin will be benched with his next missed 3 or turnover.

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  62. Mother fudgin finally the 1st assist for Lin! Seriously how hard is it ASIK?!

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  63. teams that might need lin's services are lakers, nuggets, spurs, and etc.

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    1. Spurs?? The team with Parker and De Colo?

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  64. i'm kinda pissed that he's playing now, it's like they only want him to play when they're winning or when they know that he won't be a liability on the court.

    Sorry for all the knee jerk reactions.

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  65. LOL at everybody with their excuses. The kid deserved this and if I was coaching he would have been benched already.

    See...that's what happens you you dick around like a naive idiot. This is the NBA, son. If you don't produce, your ass is getting replaced. Get it together or you'll get out of the league faster than Adam Morrison.

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  66. Have to admit, big difference between asik and tyson chandler

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    1. it took you this long to figure that out? Chandler is 100x better than Asik.

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    2. tyson totally gets lin chemistry wise

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    3. Asik needs to be able to alley oop. ALLEY OOP!

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  67. with 100% shooting from 2 and 3, lin should be allowed to find his groove and play all the way to final seconds of 4th period

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  68. I am just really upset about this type of disrespect for jlin. Are they all jealous of the attention he gets 60 minutes , gq...etc? Because I can't figure this out? Which starting pg from the best to the worst gets disrespected like this? I will bet u won't find one who gets subbed out at the 6 min mark in first qtr n not get back in before half unless he is injured. If they don't believe in him and pleassssssss "TRADE HIM".

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  69. Lin should have taken that shot instead of passing to ppat (even though he made the basket)

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  70. btw, i pieced together this video clip of JLin, check it out guys:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fCX--BdRNg

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