Sunday, December 2, 2012

JLin is Back!

19pts
8 asts
3 rebs
1 stl
2 tos

This is the type of line that many including myself were expecting from JLin early on. However, as I even stated myself that JLin would take a least a month from the middle of pre-season to get close to 100% physically, it was not fair or realistic. This is not even mentioning the change in role with Harden coming in right before the start of the season.

Also, another big factor I failed to mention is that with JLin struggling early in pre-season, it was hard for the players and coaches to have full faith in his game. Now, as he is getting that explosiveness back, and as he's starting to relax, lower his arc, and hit shots, you can see him gaining trust with not just the coaches, but players as well. Harden is swinging it to him, did you see this earlier in the season? No. Late game situations, and Harden is giving it JLin and saying you take it. You can see they're getting it to JLin on the outlet more often. Earlier, it was a lot of Parsons and Harden bringing it up. Now, it's primarily JLin.

Ever since the Knicks game he has looked great to me in just his overall game. He is controlling tempo, taking care of the ball, making solid and spectacular passes, playing strong on ball defense, wrecking havoc with his help D.  How many times have you seen Jeremy come over to help and either deflect the ball for someone else to get a steal or cause the turnover or take the charge? These things don't show up in the PER, but they help your team win. JLin is helping his team win, just like at Palo Alto, just like at Harvard, just like in New York.

For those of you who were worried or stopped following Jeremy when things were not rosy, welcome back. Fans are fickle, the bandwagon got lighter after his first 13 games. However, I bet it'll start getting crowded again. Don't get me wrong, he'll still have some struggles as any young point guard will, from time to time. Then you'll see the same cast of characters come back to this site to rip him and us. He also still needs to get to the line more. He was getting there about 7 times per36min last season. If he can get that up to about 4, he'll be almost completely back.

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  1. Hear hear.

    I think we'll find that the NY game was the turning point. Despite the knee, I really think it was a mental/confidence/comfort thing; this is not a knock on Lin's mentality, but rather just letting a 24 year old work out what has got to be an incredible amount of stress.

    Confidence begets confidence... I for one am excited about the future.

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  2. Well said by the original poster.

    The Rockets are really coming together as a team. Asik is starting to hone his game. Parsons is getting better. Harden is realizing that there is often a better option yet he still keeps his aggressiveness. Patterson is now a legitimate offensive threat. I think this is a very good team. I've been noticing more high-five and better unity.

    As for Lin, the guy is playing great and it will get better. He is finally finishing at the rim now. If Lin becomes an 18-8 player this team is top 3 in the West.

    Also, if anyone is concerned about the chemistry of Harden-Lin watch the Q&A with Pablo Torres from ESPN the magazine on Youtube.

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  3. Jlin/Asian men haters...where you at now? FalseInBasketball, come back with your garbage...it's awesome. The rest of the mindless drones in the US might listen to your dribble, but real basketball fans on this site see through your crap. It's obvious by watching his games (and I'm sure FalseInBasketball hasn't watched his games) that Jeremy is a baller. I'm not sure how good he will be, but cmon, you can't deny the fact that Jeremy is at least a good NBA starting point guard. He has the potential to be a top 5 point guard or better, but he's still learning.

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    1. Gland..you are welcome to reply as well :).

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    2. Where's TVN?

      He's NOT a Lin hater. He's a Lin superfan!

      I'd like to see TVN write some good things about Lin here.

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    3. Hes using another screenname - I guess...

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  4. As JLin regains confidence, he will get to the line more often. There are times that I see a defender in the restricted area, and JLin not taking advantage of it. I would like to see him slam over someone because I'm sure he has the vertical to do it. As long as the defender is in the restricted area, he won't get called for a charge, instead he'll get to the line.

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    1. Jeremy is super fast and quick but he doesn't have a freak vertical. This has hurt him because his vertical isn't where it should be with the knee. Once he gets the knee back 100%, he'll have the same vertical as last year which will let him finish at the rim with general efficiency - but he'll never be John Wall or Derrick Rose in terms of finishing.

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    2. I sure as heck hope Lin NEVER finishes like John Wall shooting 7% from 3 point range and like under 40% from the field!!!

      What's scary is that I think Wall had Knicks shooting coach Dave Hopla coaching him to shoot that 7%! Plus Wall also has Sam Cassell coaching him!

      I like John Wall and think he'd be a fun teammate for Jeremy Lin one day. However, I just gotta say that the "worst" pick in the 2010 draft (Lin) has turned out WAY BETTER than the 1st pick in the same draft (Wall)

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    3. John Wall is not a good basketball player but you'd be hard pressed to find someone who is better at finishing at the rim. He has a huge wingspan and a freak vertical. Jeremy has elite quickness and speed, but not a large wingspan nor vertical.

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    4. @Will

      More like he doesn't have a good Basketball IQ (John Wall).

      But yes, I do agree with their difference.

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  5. The comments do swell when Jeremy is struggling! Struggles are part of a young point guard's game. Heck, even veteran point guards have strings of poor games. And Jeremy is coming back from injury no less. Keep doing what you're doing Jeremy; working hard, improving, and keep on playing with that competitive warrior mindset!

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  6. This coaching staff primary purpose is to inflate assets to be flipped at the trading deadline, with an option to either continue this inflation post deadline or switch to a gameplan more conducive to winning.

    I suspect Lin has a directive to be passive and look for other people to get their shots so the Rockets can accrue trade capital. The rationale was probably to get Jeremy some real time recuperation for the knee, save wear and tear, and the "vision" sold to Jeremy was for another big time player to join them for a championship. However, Jeremy's competitive instinct sometimes does not cooperate with this tacit agreement.

    I'm glad Lin is not doing the P n R all the time this season. He gets a chance to build up his other skills. In fact, I was more impressed in the Thunder game than this Utah "stats" game.

    Therefore, as for this season, discerning Jeremy fan will look for the superstar fundamentals OTHER than scoring to gauge his true progress. We all know he can score and pass. Can he stop a point guard from getting his points? Mo Williams had some comeback buckets that suggest Jeremy has alot to improve on that regards. Perhaps he was not Westbrook so Lin didn't take him that seriously. Can he make ordinary players and enhance their values? Look at Patterson, Parsons, Delfino, Asik, Cook, and Morris. Especially the big men who aren't adept at PnR. Can he run an offense that is not instinctual for him and run it better than it was designed? This wacky trade asset inflating offense messes with my head but I finally understand the purpose but at the same time I disagree with it. Jeremy probably has the same strong dislike as well.

    When people apply to the Ivies, a letter of recommendation that scores for high value is what they did to enhance the classroom. Either (1) the candidate was so exceptional that he can teach the class in replace of the teacher (parallel is running the offense) or (2) better than x and y students who are at your school (Jeremy has no peers who have graduated from Harvard playing at an All star level, let alone Harvard, so this wouldn't apply) or (3) enhances value of the discussion without arrogance or attitude with a leadership quality that his peers look up to (this is Jeremy helping other teammates stats and gaining respect)

    So please folks, use some of the smarts in discussing Jeremy Lin and his growth as a potential superstar player that has more value than his stat line. We already have second tier websites/message boards (ESPN, clutchwhatever, etc) that cater to that aspect and casual crowd. Just like we have community colleges and state schools that cater to a particular segment of students. We shouldn't be entirely dismissive of Jeremy's stat line of course, as it has its place in voting, media coverage, and awareness for the casual crowd. At the same time, let's not go overboard and reiterate their complaints from other sites.

    What I'm looking for in these couple of weeks is some of the glimpses of that Westbrook defense while doing everything else a superstar normally does and see how he can be more consistent in applying Gary Payton lessons with his own spin.

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    1. Inflating assets is what it looks like. Nicely said. You beat me to it.

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    2. yep agreed. the rest of the players should be fine with that as well, as it increases their next contracts.

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    3. INFLATE DEM ASSETS!!!

      badda boom, badda boom!!!

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  7. He can finally score more than Harden, that's definitely a good sign. I hope he can keep elevate or at least maintain this level of play.

    But one thing that sad to see is that Toyata Center is a freaking cemetery, hell, even my local cemetery have more ghost than Toyota Center's attendance.

    Big part of Linsanity earlier this year was the crowd getting fired up for every from every score, every assist, or every big defensive play. Players and especially Lin, feed of that energy, that excitement.

    Houstonian, y u no get excited!

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    1. Seriously, by being fired up, the crowd can really give Lin and the team confidence boost

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    2. "But one thing that sad to see is that Toyata Center is a freaking cemetery, hell, even my local cemetery have more ghost than Toyota Center's attendance."

      Ha! Best line yet.

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    3. Houston is not NY. They love football more than NBA. Even when Yao was there it's like this...

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    4. @CJCA:

      Nope. Even when Houston was winning back to back NBA titles it was like this! Sorry, but I warned you guys about this when Lin first signed with the Rockets. Houston is a football (high school, college and pro) town first and a baseball town second. Among the Texas NBA teams, Dallas and San Antonio are much better NBA fans. The lack of local support costs players in exposure and endorsements, which is why a lot of big time free agents avoid Houston. And that is precisely why getting James Harden - and getting him for so little, a couple of draft picks that won't be very high, for a lesser player in Kevin Martin and for a guy who was just sent to D-League in Jeremy Lamb - was such a coup.

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    6. So...CJCA and Unknown agree that football in HOU is bigger than Rockets basketball. Okay.

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    7. Unknown, I don't consider Kevin Martin a "lesser" player than James Harden.

      Right now, Martin is TEARING IT UP in Harden's role as designated shooter. Actually, Martin is far more effective for OKC than Harden was.

      I would have been happy for the Rockets to have kept Kevin Martin. Despite the perceived chemistry problem between Martin and Lin, I'd have been very happy to have Martin beside Lin and Lamb coming off the bench behind both players. I even remain adamant that it's possible that Jeremy Lamb would've supplanted Kevin Martin as the starter late this season.

      I actually miss Kevin Martin. I am not shy about saying that I'd have never made the Harden trade if I were the Rockets.

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    8. Martin looks good because he's like the 3rd option.

      If he's on Houston, he'll be the first option. And I guarantee that he'll look bad when he's in a Rockets uniform.

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    9. Well neph, Martin was a solid player in Houston for the last few years.

      He's been scoring nearly 20 ppg and was absolutely tearing it up in preseason. Now on the Thunder, Martin is arguably the best shooter in the NBA.

      Kevin Martin is an unrestricted free agent after this season. I think he'd look FABULOUS in a Spurs uniform, right neph?

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    10. Put Battier, Tony Allen, or good defenders on him and he'll crumble under pressure.

      No Thanks!

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  8. I think we can all agree about Lin from last year is his defense right now has improve tremendously... I'm talking about Shane Battier type defense/ y'all feel me???

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    1. JLin, the 5th best isolation defender in the NBA. [Synergy.]

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  9. Sorry, but the idea that Lin needs to lower his arc is completely false. There are plenty of books and research papers that discuss the physics of the arc on a jump shot. I was a 90% free throw shooter in high school and college and I can assure putting MORE arc on the ball is almost always indicated. If Lin's arc is less than Nash's he's doing it wrong.

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    1. Don't misattribute Lin's recent success to the wrong factors, is the point.

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    2. Lin's arc was too high. Even his free throws looked like floaters in the beginning.

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    3. Michael.. Check out the new research by Noah Basketball... It might change your opinion. Plus compare his shooting from last years Laker game hi lites to his shooting now. It's pretty apparent. also check out 2 baseline 3's last nite... Arc on miss was too high causing a short miss.

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    4. I really wish we would just give the arc angle (heh) a rest. Like Michael stated, there is plenty of research done on this already, and some of you look foolish.

      Can we rephrase the question for those who insist on him changing his mechanics? What's more important, that he has the physically optimum trajectory, or that he is repeatable with what he has?

      Anyone who has spent any real time with golf (is there a sport with a greater fascination with technique?) knows the answer to that.

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    5. Nom, it's not that simple. Every player is an individual. Some can change their mechanics and lose their shot. Some can change it, and only suffer temporary issues which will lead to a much better overall shot. You simply can't over simplify this. Sometimes what one changes is subtle and has less to do with mechanics and as a result won't really hurt the shot, but will definitely help it.

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    6. @Bamboo Forest

      I'm not sure we're on the same page, so lemme clarify myself.

      I agree it's not simple, and I agree that every player is an individual. To wit, my understanding is that Lin has made a commitment to improve his shot which resulted in a coach and altering his mechanics. Presumably for the better. He worked on this before Linsanity, he's worked on this all summer (@via had all the links in some thread ages ago regarding his shooting).

      Like a golf swing change (really, any fine motor skill) it takes repetitions to ingrain. Neuroplasticity at its finest. The enemy, however, is stress (as a technical term, not as in "Hey I'm stressed out" although that works too). When you are stressed, and when you start thinking (not just overthinking), you jeopardize these changes. This is why "game speed" is always different than just shooting around in a gym. I know you probably know this already, I'm just laying it out for frame of reference.

      If you are saying that the changes that are being worked on are incorrect, then that's one thing, and not what I'm arguing.

      If you are saying that, based on the first few games, he needs to abandon the work that he's been doing and try something else (lower his arc in this example), then I'm saying that's the absolutely worst thing he can do. I argue that he's made the commitment, he has to trust it, and just stick with it until it's automatic.

      So when you say "Some can change their mechanics and lose their shot. Some can change it, and only suffer temporary issues which will lead to a much better overall shot." I wholeheartedly agree. However (and this of course is the key) provided the changes were fundamentally correct, I'd argue that the ones who "lose their shot" are the ones who are unable to give it the proper commitment and time.

      Since people brought up Ray Allen (48+/-2 degree 3 point shooter btw) I'll mention him too. I wish I remember where I read/saw this, but he's apparently a little OCD in his practice habits, down to he has a guy watch him to make sure he is always jumping the same height on his jumpers. He gets the reps in.

      Or take Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf (I apologize for bring up a random dude from the past). He suffers from Tourette's Syndrome. He was a little OCD too, and someone I knew who went to high school with him said that it was legendary how late he might be in the gym because he refused to go home until he made 100 free throws in a row. That's getting your reps in. For kicks, you should look up this guy's free throw history.

      Bottom line: we know Lin works hard, the coaches were even concerned he works a little too hard. He is working on a skill that unfortunately has a random element to it and things didn't fall his way at the beginning of the season. But it appears to me he's stuck with it, and unless someone can demonstrate to me that he's gotten worse over time I fail to see why he has to change anything.

      I enjoy your posts, btw, thanks for your reply.

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    7. Nom, I think we agree then. I must have misunderstood your earlier post. My fault.

      Apparently Lin started working with Doc last season... so, he may not have even changed his shot from last season to this season. But certainly, shooting is not only about mechanics. It's also about confidence. The more confidence a shooter has the better he'll shoot.

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    8. @Bamboo Forest

      Nobody's fault. We're good.

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    9. All I'm allowed to say at this point is that I'm HAPPY for Jeremy Lin and Doc Sheppler for SHOT PUNKING me!

      I still cringe every time I look at Jeremy Lin shooting that curveball jumper. But if it goes in, I have no right to complain!

      Red Auerbach was a big advocate of funky looking jump shooting forms. So if Lin is somehow line driving that sideways spinning beach volleyball serve into the hoop, that's good enough for me.

      Sorry, I can't help poking fun at Lin's short release mini me Tyrannosaurus Rex spastic form that looks to me like a girl with attitude going "Whatever". So shoot me or bite me or flame me or something. I might even go "Ooh"!

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  10. Nom, wholeheartedly agree with a twist. Confidence begets confidence. The Rockets coaches have done a terrible job instilling confidence in him. When Sampson said that he will take Harden out and put Lin in with the starters, that's one of the most idiotic, ignorant thing to be said by a coach ( other than " we will will match any offer up to a billion" ) That comment has several layers of issues that needs to peeled away. I've been scratching my head so hard that I had go back and take a look at the first 2 games of the season. The best 2 game stretch of the whole season by far. Wetted my appetite and wanted more. With more games, the team got worse. What the hell? During those 2 games Lin's injury didn't seem to be an issue as he scored around 16 and 19, and Harden was going mad crazy with almost 40 point games. What gives? The coaches destroyed his confidence by not setting him up in situations/plays to succeed. What is your players strengths and weaknesses? You don't put him at his weakest and hope for him to succeed. Now that's all hunky dory if you want him to improve on his weakness. But I highly doubt that is what's happening. Know your personnel coaches. Know that Harden can get his shots and points anywhere, anytime. He's shown it in the past at OKC coming off the bench, and he showed it the first couple games without a clue to the playbook Stop catering to him. Know that Lin is best at pick and roll situations, running and setting up the offense, and trust his vision. Sampson's comments and actions are setting Lin up to fail. One, he's implying that Lin has already failed playing alongside Harden. The combo is not working. Two, if Lin doesn't do well with Harden on the bench then he's failed again. Thirdly, he's admitting that they need to build Lin's confidence back up by having him run the offense. Fail written all over!!!!!!!! Only this time, it's the coaches that's failed. They need to go back and watch the first two games of the season. The offense was humming, defense was good out of the gate. So the racehorse got off a great start. What do you do? you pull it back? Stupid. Lin and Harden should play together with Lin running the point with massive pick and rolls. Harden free roams. By playing them at separate times, you are averaging the team as in mediocrity. Man, i couldn't stand watching. I hope this is a sign of the turnaround.

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    1. @mt

      I'm not going to say the coaching shares no blame. And I don't think they get a free pass, however horrible the circumstances surrounding their instability.

      Nevertheless, this situation is new and untested for Sampson as well. Do you not think that the situation you describe above has improved each game over the past few (let's say 5) games?

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    2. People need to be as patient with the coaches and the teammates as they are with JLin. Basketball is not played in a vacuum.

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    3. Do you know what stupid is?

      A) Wanting Lin to go back to the pick and roll game, which puts significant wear and tear on your body, while he is recovering from knee surgery.

      B) Wanting Lin to go back to the pick and roll game when there are no other players on the Rockets that are actually good at the pick and roll for him to do it with. (KHuang keeps hammering this point again and again, and no one listens to him).

      C) Wanting Harden to be the guy who roams while Lin does the pick and roll, which reduces Harden to being a complementary offensive player when Harden is one of the best pure scorers in the NBA and is great with the ball in his hands.

      D) Thinking that the Rockets are under some obligation to run the team and organization in a way that maximizes Lin's stats and spotlight.

      E) Thinking that Sampson is going to have this thing figured out by now despite this being his first season with the Rockets and the Rockets having an entirely new roster from last year. Samson doesn't know Lin or any of these other players - except Harden of course - from the man in the moon.

      F) Conveniently forgetting that McHale wasn't using Lin any better.

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      I agree with everything except for D). What's wrong with you?

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    5. @Nom:

      The Rockets are trying to win games, not promote a particular player. And the Rockets aren't going to run D'Antoni's system. Even if they wanted to - and they don't - the Rockets don't have the frontcourt personnel to do so. The Rockets will feature Lin more and more when Lin proves to them that doing so is the way to win games. Until that happens, the Rockets will not feature Lin, and will have no reason to.

      I understand that this is a Jeremy Lin fan site. It is why I am here. I am a Jeremy Lin fan. But Jeremy Lin plays in the NBA. The Rockets as an NBA franchise are trying to win as many games as they can, not maximize Lin's ppg regardless of whether they win or lose. And I say that for all the criticism of the coaches, their approach is working. The Rockets are a .500 basketball team. They are among the leading NBA teams in scoring and assists. They are actually playing greater than the sum of their parts, and Jeremy Lin is a huge part of that. But were the Rockets trying to feature Lin instead of win games, they wouldn't be as successful. Of course, they have done some bone-headed stuff along the way like benching Lin during overtime against Portland, which almost certainly cost them that win. But it has been more good than bad, more positive than negative.

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    6. @Unknown

      My [sarcasm][/sarcasm] is off for the weekend. I sincerely thank you for your reply, and my apologies to you for having you take the time it took to write your post.

      On a positive note, I agree with everything you wrote. Every.Single.Word.

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    7. Lin could PNR with Greg Smith.

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    8. @unknown, READ before you call out my post as stupid. You don't think that the plan to play Lin and Harden separately is stupid? If so then you need not read further.

      It is stupid because you are essentially catering to Lin and Harden, instead of having both learn to play with each other.
      a) You don't want Lin to go back to the PNR? Heh? Harden is essentially doing that in place of Lin. What would you rather him Lin do? Shooting three's all day? If you're not playing him with the PNR, you don't know your personnel. Now I'm not saying all out d'antoni, but come on.
      b) The most important person on the PNR is the point guard. You are lucky to have a PG who can run the PNR. Many teams don't have that. The guy with the Roll is not that important, granted he has to make the shot. It's not mad scientist to Roll. What does Tyson Chandler have in his arsenal except the dunk and the roll? I'm pretty sure Asik or Greg Smith or Patterson can develop that with enough repitition and determination. Melo could've been good at with his skillset, but he wasn't because he was lazy.
      c)The last i checked Harden is still listed as a SG. Harden will get his shots and points, rest assured. Harden will make sure of that himself. So don't you worry.
      d)the rockets are under obligation to maximize Lin's skillsets. The owner demands it, the fans demands it. Even his teammates demands it. When you put him in a position to fail, what are all these vested interests gonna think if he doesn't perform well? I never said cater to Lin.
      e) i give you that one. Sampson needs time to reverse the roles with Lin and Harden. It just doesn't make sense for him to want Lin to play the lead PG and then not when Harden is in. That's why I think there is an agenda here. Like Pierrot wrote (he beat me to the punch). The Rockets are inflating their assets. Giving the other Rox more scoring chances with Lin running the show without Harden and at the same time reboosting Lin's confidence.
      f) I said coaches, Mchale included

      Bottome line is go back to Lin being PG and Harden being SG, just like game 1 and 2.

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    9. @unknown, most of us agree with you. The only issue I have with you is when you make statements like, "Meanwhile, comments by Lin fans trashing Harden - which Rockets fans do read - will only cause them to like Lin less, and I don't blame them".

      You made that comment because I said Harden needed to play better D. That's not considered trashing a player. He does need to play better D. It rubs people the wrong way when you make that kind of threat, warning us that Rockets fans are going to like Lin less because of some comments you read on here. This doesn't really sound like it's about supporting the Rockets/players, but rather putting Lin fans in their place because they don't support the rockets/players the same way you do. I see a lot of this on clutch fans, threatening to like Lin less b/c of his fans (when in reality, if you're a real fan of basketball or the Rockets, you wouldn't be that easily swayed) categorizing people (lof) to minimize their input - "i can't take your comment seriously, bc you're an lof". The reality of the situation is, some or a lot of us only follow the Rockets now, because of Lin. Ultimately, we want the Rockets to excel and do well because it means that Lin is also doing well.

      The majority of people on here talk about Lin, his role (sharing the PG duty with Harden) and all that comes with it, the coaching staff and his shooting. People don't have ill-will against Harden and most recognize that Harden is the best player/scorer on the team. The majority of us have never said that Lin was better than Harden, or that Harden was trash, or that he's ruining the team and we wish he played somewhere else. That's what I consider trashing a player. Every site has extreme fans, but they don't represent everyone. Clutchfans has extreme members but i'm sure they don't represent all Rockets fans... You have to remember that this is a Jeremy Lin fan site. Not a basketball site or Rockets site, where other players/issues get discussed. When the focus is on one person, you're going to see extreme/personal comments; people should be able to show their support and say whatever they want because again, this is a Jeremy Lin fan site. If I wanted to talk about other players on the Rockets or the team, i'd got to realgm HOU or clutch fans. I don't appreciate someone telling me how I should be discussing Jeremy Lin on a Jeremy Lin fan site.

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    10. Good one k.smith. I agree.

      BTW - to ask Lins fans to be more nice and respectful is just ridiculous... just saying.

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    11. You know what's stupid, going to a J Lin fan site and calling people stupid for wanting him to get his numbers AND win at the same time.

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    12. You know what else is stupid?

      Thinking people here want Harden to just sit in the corner and not handle the ball at all.

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      We would like Lin to be the primary ball handler, not the only ball handler. We recognize Harden's abilities, and Parsons, and whoever else, we just want everyone else including the Rox to recognize the 1) importance of ball movement, 2) good things happen when the ball touches Lin more than once in an trip down on offense.

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    13. Unknown, you know I truly understand you.

      It would be "stupid" if the Rockets did ONLY thise things that you said were't going to work. In that sense, I agree with you.

      But I also agree with the other guys here that say that having a one dimensional Harden iso approach is not going to work. That's just as "stupid" as making Lin the sole primary focus, and you have agreed with that in the past.

      This is the NBA where all good teams must have MULTIPLE approaches due to the sophistication and quality of opponents. Thus there are no stupid ideas floating back and forth not just here, but on the Rockets coaching staff that I am so utterly IMPRESSED with.

      Liin AND Harden AND Parsons AND Asik AND AND AND!!!

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    14. All this talk is makes me appreciate McHale/Sampson more and more...They've been dealt Harden and Lin, now how do you maximize their potential, as they have considerable overlap?

      Personally I don't mind coaches exposing their player's weakness and forcing them to work on it. What doesn't kill them makes them stronger. Lin is made of the right stuff, I have total faith that regardless of what position he's put in he'll excel in it, not out of any need to prove anything, but its because that's how Lin is...Takes a lickin' and keeps on tickin'...Sure he has his low moments, but his faith seems to carry him through, he comes back fighting.

      Loves the way he does that.

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    15. Kenoshi, Mchale/Sampson have been dealt good cards, not bad cards. It's a luxury they are afforded. They can enjoy that luxury or they can just waste it. I have no problem with Lin working on his weaknesses. Any coach who doesn't allow me to work at my optimum, I'll start to work on other parts of my game. I got no choice. Pretty sure Lin will come out fighting, but the credit doesn't necessarily go to the coaches in this case.

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    16. JLin will always turn limitations into opportunities.

      On the coaching staff:
      Bickerstaff & Finch [who works closely with JLin] - Offense
      Sampson - Defense
      McHale - Final say
      [Cooper & Buckner - Unspecified]

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    17. Despite Sampson's specialty on defense, they have been bad defensively in the past few games. But they have been one of the best in the league when it comes to scoring.

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    18. No such thing as "bad" defense when games are being WON.

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  11. I noticed several things from JLin's game vs the Jazz that I liked. Obviously, JLin is starting to handle the ball more, which is how things should be from the start anyways. JLin has been making sound decisions as usual and passing with precision. If JLin wasn't a bball player he could be a quarterback. His long passes are sweet, like throwing a touchdown pass. JLin's shot selections in this game were different. JLin's first two shots were jumpers inside the 3. Also, he drove to his left several times--one of them was a tough semi-floater over Mo. This will definitely open things up for him and make it harder to guard. However, I would like to see JLin practice driving to his left hard down the lane and spin/pivot to his right and finish--Tony Parker does this well and I think JLin can definitely do it too. I also would like to see JLin drive hard, stop near the free throw line area, and take a pull up jumper like Westbrook. I think JLin can do it and it's a high percentage shot.

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  12. The best part of this game is that Lin was in control of the 4th quarter. Very interesting.

    It will be a couple years before Lin gets to the line a lot again. First of all, there's the new rule emphasis this year. Second, Lin just isn't getting the respect of the officials, probably due to the media backlash that started after Linsanity. I think we can all see the double standard on contact against Lin.

    Incidentally, I haven't been posting here as much lately because I decided to limit my sports watching to one weekend every week or two, when I catch up on League Pass. It was interfering with my real life. Has nothing to do with Lin's performance. :)

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    1. Yeah, i have not seen your comments lately. Always love to read what you (and Khuang) are gonna say after every Lin's games.

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    3. For all my complaints about bad NBA refereeing of Lin, I will give them this:

      Lin has not been in foul trouble.

      When Lin entered the NBA, I sincerely thought that he'd be in foul trouble every game. I expected him to average 4-5 fouls a game as a low usage defensive stopper who would play 15-20 minutes a game off the bench. I figured that Lin would be limited not by any deficiency in his game, but the amount of phantom foul calls he's rack up (like on John Wall in Summer League).

      Instead, I'm happy to see that the refs are letting Lin play his game.

      Lin's so blindingly quick that the referees are literally not quick enough to blow the whistle on him. By the time the refs even recover to change directions after a Lin steal, he's flying up the court for a fast break or layup. NBA refs let Lin go because the NBA rewards fast paced play even at the expense of fouls!

      Of course, what infuriates me is the amount of uncalled fouling Lin gets hit by. No player I've ever seen in my decades of watching the NBA has been hit more illegally than Lin. It's so extreme that I have one set of referee standards for Lin bashing, a far more lenient set of standards for journeymen and role players, and the exalted "superstar" level reserved for the so called "elite" players!

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  13. You know what's really warped? How some Houston fan websites are still finding things to nitpick about Lin even in this solid performance.

    The basketball "analysts" at DreamShake have listed Lin in their "Three Down" category (in addition to the Three Up category) for this game because he didn't use his left-hand when finishing at the hoop!

    Instead of mention Harden's porous defence against Randy Foye or his 5 TOs in this Three Down category, they focus on Lin's lack of a left hand.

    Talk about contrived nitpicking.

    Pathetic.

    http://www.thedreamshake.com/2012/12/1/3716246/recap-houston-rockets-even-series-with-utah-jazz

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    1. I actually don't mind the "nitpicking" by fans. I mean if they really hate Lin and don't have high hope on him to begin with, they wouldn't over analyze his weaknesses. Something a lot of us are also doing a lot here.

      Lin does switch to his right hand and does the reverse layup a lot. It led to him not being able to draw many foul shots than if he just finishes strong with the original hand and makes contact with defender.

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    2. Agree with Cara!
      and Ixy,I don't get it too and I don't want to get it too. to me, I just believe as long as there are people who support lin, there are people who just love to pick on it on whatever circumstances. I believe you must see some good comments about lin there too. I used to go sb nation when lin's a knicks, because i think the posting there is fair,funny and manner, I enjoy it. I only go to dreamshake couple times at the beginning of lin's contract. I would say at that time the comments i read there is ok and so far not really bad though, not sure how it turn out now.

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    3. Yeah, the biggest loss for me when Lin moved from Knicks to Rockets was the terrible quality of Dream Shake compared to Posting and Toasting. For the latter, even when they were critical of players (including Lin), they were freakin' hilarious about it.

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    4. @wifflewiffle, I agree. Knicks fan/forum sites>>>>>Rockets fan/forum sites.

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    5. Knicks fan >>>>>>> Rockets fans

      In terms of support and numbers.

      The last place Kings may even have higher attendance than the Rockets.

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    6. Knicks fans bbiq>>>>Rockets fans bbiq

      Some of the things I read on Rockets forums just blow my mind.

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  14. Anyone have Jeremy Lin highlights of yesterday's game?

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    1. Here is the highlights..

      http://www.lincredibles.com/2012/12/02/jeremy-lin-highlights-rockets-v-jazz-12-01-2012-video/

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    2. What sort of shots did he miss in the game?

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    3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9Kkie-Vyw4&list=UL

      This guy's got the best Lin highlights. Still love Geraldd39lin too.

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    4. ok thanks for the links =) Much Appreciated!!!

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  15. Jeremy Lin is back alright! - but with increasingly decreasing "rookie" mistakes!! Go Jeremy!!!

    BTW, I continue to enjoy reading this forum. Don't stop posting you all. It's the best forum!

    ..... but I'm posting less until Spring because I have to take advantage of the bad weather here and the worse weather in the sub-alpine region (for skyscape and mountainscape photography - for a wider range of light and dark).

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      "skyscape and mountainscape photography - for a wider range of light and dark"

      Now here is another topic we could really get into. Are you into HDR at all?

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  16. Really happy with Lin's game. I don't see him taking 14 shots a game though. Yeah, he'll play based on what the opposing team's defense gives him but considering his role and the offense the other guys are producing, at this point, i'd be happy if he could be as efficient as Mike Conley. I'm not lowering my expectations, i'm being realistic about the situation in HOU. I hope i'm wrong and Lin's role continues to reflect yesterday's game rather than the other 12 games (prior to NY).

    During the last 3-4min of the game, it felt like he was a little tentative, trying to defer the ball to Harden. He only kept the ball bc Harden motioned for him to keep it, thus the two layups. Lin shouldn't be looking over at Harden like that, nor should he be using him as a crutch. Lin needs to be confident in his decision making. As Lin plays more games and gains more confidence, hopefully we'll see less of this.

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    1. "I don't see him taking 14 shots a game though."

      I can. I think that it will average out. He will have to take more shots during the many games that his frontcourt will be overmatched.

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    2. You know what's stupid?

      Thinking that the Rockets are under obligation to maximize Lin's touches and points.

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    3. Day to day, thread to thread, post to post. All over the place.

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    4. When did I say that HOU had to maximize Lin's touches and points? Mike Conley has played really well, all season and he's extremely efficient.

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    5. This is all directed at Unknown.

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    6. k.smith, I agree with you but in a twisted way.

      I can eventually see Lin taking less than 14 shots - in BLOWOUT VICTORIES.

      As Lin goes, so do the Rockets. He's been electing to feel his way into games right now, which is good in that Lin can find his rhythm but bad that the Rockets can't knock out the opponents early. I do think that Lin will get to the stage where he comes out firing right away and wins the game early.

      The only teams that can stop Lin from taking more than 10 shots a game are squads like San Antonio and LA and Portland that have max contract shotblockers that shut down the lane and thus allow perimeter defenders to squeeze Lin off the 3 point line into the midrange. Even so, Lin has proven adept at finding his big man teammates for layups and open jumpers. Before the season started, most of us here predicted that would happen.

      The other thing that could cause Lin to take tons of shots is if the Rockets big men continue to learn from Kevin McHale how to shoot the midrange J and finish inside. As the big men become more adept at creating for themselves, Lin would be single covered more just because opposing shotblockers could not cheat off their men as easily. Single coverage on Lin means LINSANITY style scoring, even if it's Lebron or Iguodala guarding Lin!!!

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  17. I don't know if this has been posted yet, but Oklahoma City sent Jeremy Lamb to D-League. That Harden trade keeps looking better and better.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/oklahoma-city-sends-jeremy-lamb-211118808--nba.html

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    1. There's nothing wrong with that. Lamb needs it, he wasn't getting hardly any time on the court.

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    2. wonder whether there is a James Harden fan site...if there is one, unknown is an ideal "KHuang" or "Michael Terry" double on that forum. if there isn't any yet, unknown should be the first-mover to set up a fan site and champion the Bearded one. many fans'll definitely be very grateful to unknown.

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    3. Unknown is a HUGE Jeremy Lin fan.

      He's even more of a Jeremy Lin fan than a Harden fan. That sounds crazy, but go ask him.

      I'm STILL following Jeremy Lamb. I think he's a wonderful talent and a potential All Star one day. I expect him to post solid numbers in the D league, though once again his 19 year old body isn't quite ready for pro ball even though his brain and skills are 100% ready!!!

      Jeremy Lamb was my favorite rookie in the 2012 draft, over even Anthony Davis. I hated seeing him get traded to the Thunder, though I agreed with Unknown's assessment that Lamb may or may not reach the level James Harden is already at.

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    4. Pardon me fine fellows, but I actually want Jeremy Lin to be on a winning team so that his talents can be fully utilized and widely appreciated. That was why I wanted him to remain on the Knicks, but I have since realized that I was wrong and have recanted that position. Now that he is on the Rockets, it is in his interests that he be surrounded by good players. The Harden trade was controversial because people felt that they were giving up too much in Jeremy Lamb. I merely stated that while Jeremy Lamb will be a great player down the road - a very good offensive player, as well as a better defensive player than Harden, and also who is more of a traditional SG whose game is more complementary to Lin - that it would be at least 2 years before Lamb helps Lin and the Rockets as much as Harden is doing right now. I posted this link not to praise Harden or to bash Lamb as I was to provide still more evidence that the Rockets made a good move in choosing Harden's game today over Lamb's potential tomorrow.

      I am sorry, but I don't see Harden as a threat to Lin. I see Harden as Lin's teammate, and a very good one at that ... one that will support Lin, will help him win games, and won't become jealous or resentful WHEN Lin becomes more popular and influential than Harden is. (Note that I didn't say IF but I said WHEN. It WILL happen, and when it does happen, Harden seems to be the type that will be totally cool with it and settle into being the #2 guy. When this trade went down I called Harden the perfect wingman, the Dumars to Lin's Isiah Thomas and that is still my position.)

      Thomas never won squat without Dumars. Jordan never won squat without Pippen. Shaq never won a thing without Kobe and Wade. LeBron never won anything without Wade. David Robinson never won a thing without Tim Duncan. Larry Bird never won a thing without McHale. That is basketball, and if you can't deal with the fact that it takes 2 (or more) great players to win anything, then golf, tennis or bowling are the sports that you need to be following.

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    5. No one said they wanted Harden off the team. No one said Lin was going to win a championship by himself. Putting words in people's mouths again, here we go.

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    6. Agree with ksmith. Feels like a harden or rocket fan speak all day. Not sure if this is the unknown I thought of. Why you need to tell us that? We know that. Chill!

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  18. Asik appears to be more aggressive in offense by taking the ball to the basket strong and consciously trying to dunk the ball as often as possible. I think Asik will get at least $10 Million USD per year after his current K expires. Does anyone know whether the contracts of both Asik and Lin are restricted in a sense Rockets have the right to match offers from other teams?

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    1. (un)Fortunately, the Rockets do.

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    2. Nothing against Asik, but I am not sure if he'd experience this kind of success right now with another point guard other than Jeremy Lin feeding him.

      Asik's situation reminds me a little of Marcin Gortat in Phoenix who's unhappy with his degraded role. Last year Gortat had Steve Nash feeding him all the shots he wanted in perfect position. This year he has Goran Dragic who feeds himself all the shots he wants in perfect position, and Gortat is complaining in the papers about it!

      The Jeremy Lin effect is to take previously unheralded SCRUBS and dramatically raise their game so that they can get new contracts. JR Smith, Steve Novak, Brandan Wright, Danny Green, and Landry Fields are some of Lin's teammates who earned nice new contracts due to Lin's gift at making guys better.

      Not just Asik, but the entire Rockets team is looking pretty darned good as Lin WRESTS CONTROL of the team!

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    3. @KHuang, you always have a positive spin on everything related to Lin. I appreciate it.

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    4. I do agree that playing with Lin is helping both Asik and Patterson for sure. Lin gives up some chances to look good himself and make good passes, but at the same time, Asik better catch the pass and score easy ones, so Lin gets assists. However, I would not call Asik or Novak scrubs; I don't know other players well enough to judge.

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    5. eb5attorney, I'd DEFINITELY call Steve Novak a "scrub".

      He has been in the NBA for a number of years and has done absolutely nothing without Jeremy Lin beside him.

      Novak was Lin's D league teammate with the Reno Bighorns. Lin was totally dominant in that league and took Novak along for the ride. Lin was directly responsible for Novak playing in the NBA the following season and then causing Novaks scoring to jump from 3 ppg to 12 ppg!

      Now Omer Asik? I thought he was OK with Chicago, though I saw a lot of Taj Gibson protecting him on defense. Asik didn't have to shoot on Chicago, particularly since Derrick Rose and the underrated Carlos Boozer took the shots. But I still think he benefits HUGELY from the Lin effect.

      By stopping dribble penetration, Lin prevents Asik from getting into foul trouble (the absolute murder of quality center minutes in the NBA). And of course Lin is an All NBA level passer who delivers the ball right to Asik by drawing defenses away and finding Asik perfectly. Lin does those two things as well as any point guard in the NBA does.

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    6. I rather refer to Novak as a hidden gem, in that yes, he cannot create his own shots; but once he gets the ball he can knock them down -- that's a talent. Lin helped Knicks discover and appreciate Novak's talent. The way I think of a scrub is someone whose skills are limited so that they cannot contribute significantly no matter what. I would say Douglas is a scrub, but not Novak.

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    7. Here is a definition of "scrub".

      http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=scrub

      Novak, although limited in other areas, is a very skilled shooter and can contribute significantly to the outcome of basketball game; therefore, I feel calling him a "scrub" is unfair or inaccurate.

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    8. OK eb5attorney, I yield.

      My own definition of "scrub" is way harsher than yours.

      For example, I used to consider Goran Dragic a scrub. I HATED his game in Phoenix, and I'm not kidding you that Robin Lopez (another "scrub" to me) and Goran Dragic were two prime reasons why I refused to attend Suns games or even be a Suns fan. But I'm happy to say that both Dragic and Lopez are no longer "scrubs" and are valuable contributing starters.

      And y'know what, eb5attorney? Even after your CORRECT definition of what a "scrub" really is, I STILL consider Novak a scrub. It's probably because I'm a "scrub" myself!!!

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    9. Nope. If you can't create your own shot, can't rebound, can't defend, and can't handle you're a scrub. Now scrubs are an essential element to all championship teams. But they're still scrubs because they rely on the better players on the court to create their game for them.

      Asik meanwhile is not a scrub because he is a great rebounder.

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    10. I have a soft spot for Novak because he really contributed to the rise of Linsanity (along with Schumpert and Jared) and vice-versa of course. I just hope Novak doesn't drill five 3 pointers in a row (which he can do if not covered well) against Rockets at MSG. Lin, when he starts out a game hitting one or two jumpers, loosens up and tends to play very well throughout the game.

      I can definitely see that Lin improved in passing and D this season.

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    11. Unknown, you don't make sense. Just as Asik is not a scrub because he is a great rebounder, Novak is not a scrub because he is a deadly shooter.

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    12. Its true that Novak didnt become Mr. Novacaine until Lin became Mr. Linsanity but I think we should not refer to him as a scrub.

      His role is limited and he depends on guys running a play for him (cause hes a pure shooter) but he has been doing what he does for a long time. I like to think of him as part of Linsanity. Lin got show his playmaking abilities during that stretch and Novak got to shoot.

      Of course Lin makes the people around him play better but Linsanity was something special. If it wasnt for Linsanity Novak may have gone unnoticed but same goes for Lin.

      I was a little surprised to hear Novak say that he played with Lin in D league (consider Novaks age). But - he also gave confirmation to what people here say all the time. He said that the game was easy when Lin was there and the game got tougher when Lin gas gone. Here at 1:40

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpzK4CE8hwk

      I also have a soft sport for Novak. I would love to see them guys play together again.

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    13. Asik may be overrated but he can still change the game. He has to carry Patterson due to his "reboundphobia".

      Novak on the other hand cannot really change the game when he's not open. That goes for all of the stationary shooters who cannot create their own shot, cannot defend, cannot rebound, etc.

      Asik is definitely more valuable despite his lack of offensive skill.

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    14. Just for fun:

      On Asiks Wiki picture it looks like someone is grabbing his balls. So much for his defensive skills :)

      http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Datei:Omer_Asik.jpg&filetimestamp=20110302213310

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    1. That's pretty awesome. Its hard for teammates to not respect his passion for winning.

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    2. Too bad we cant hear anything. He could have just given them directions like...

      "OK - this is the Toyota center guys... get off the highway there... and this is where I live. I got about 24 red VOLVOs parked in front of the building so you cant miss.

      PatPat - you gotta go get some beer. Parsons - you gotta go fetch some food that I ordered. Harden is responsible for music. Asik is gonna bring some baklava..."

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    3. @willydilly that's hilarious :)

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  20. 18 and 8 was the average I was hoping for. I think he's capable of 20 and 10 within a couple of years.

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  21. Yeah, nice to see, JLin putting up stronger and stronger plays, as the game progress. I think so far, if we were to look from day one for this season, it has been a good progress.

    Probably he had realize (since he is a number guy from Harvard), a steep graph growth, has all the potential for a quick fall, instead a gradual growth is sustainable.
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    in the past four games he's made 24-of-42 FGs, including 3-of-7 from downtown. With career-high numbers in rebounds (4.5), assists (6.5) and steals (2.1), any chatter about Lin being a bust is misguided - source rotoworld
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  22. The Lakers lost to the Magic and fell under 0.500 today. I wonder if they will get extra motivated against the Rockets in order to make up for today's loss. Howard dominated Asik and the Rockets frontcourt last time. But I think the key to this time is to contain the Lakers 3 point shooters. I am not worried about the Rockets offense. The Rockets are young and fast and should be able to run and gun with the Lakers. If the Rockets can defend the Lakers 3 point shooters well early and prevent them getting into a rhythm and later it will allow the Rockets to pack the paint against Howard, and if the score is close in 4th, maybe adopt the "Hack a Howard", the Rockets do have a chance of pulling an upset. Let's go Jeremy and the Rockets!

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    1. If the Rockets are able to pull off this win against the Lakers and also win the Dallas game, that would be a pretty sweet boost to their record as I am expecting the games against SA to be automatic losses. 3-3 in this 6 game stretch would be pretty good.

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    2. The Rockets can easily put up 100 points against the Lakers. Lakers are definitely better than the JAzz but are not better defensively than the OKC. Their pnr defense is suspect. However, the defense of the Rockets is also very porous. Asik should use all fouls wisely. You rather let Howard shoot 20 Fts rather than go 8 for 8 from the field(like last time).

      The Mavs are definitely a challenge too but the Rockets will not be annihilated by that team.

      You are definitely correct about the Spurs :)

      Lakers are still figuring out what to do. Dantoni's team always play bad defense.

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    3. wow, Lakers better wake-up soon. Or maybe people just overrates them during the off season. I think the Lakers-houston is going to be 50-50. i will even give a slide edge to the Rockets. I'm not really watching laker games but just seeing their record and losing to orlando of all teams just shows they're not improving at all.

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    4. Maybe Popovich wants to rest all his starters against houston. You know Duncan is not getting any younger. (wishful thinking). lol

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    5. @romz

      The harsh reality is that the spurs will still beat the Rockets twice even without their starters.

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    6. maybe, but i just want to see the difference since its two games.

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    7. not maybe but surely

      LOL!

      Parker is another elite pg that Lin must defend. Parker is definitely a better pnr player than Westbrook. So, he'll use his experience over Jeremy like what he did last season. I'll be watching Lin's improved defense and compare it to last season's game against the Spurs.

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    8. Not much Lin can do against Parker when he's screened out by Duncan every single time. Duncan quite possibly set the best screen in the whole nba, either him or KG. This is something Houston big men especially Asik need to learn if they are to become better partners for Lin/Harden in the Houston offense. But then again Asik will never have Duncan/KG's jumper as a weapon. That's why the Rockets guards are already at a disadvantage compared to the Spurs guards.

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    9. Jeremy should also learn Parker's UNSTOPPABLE floaters. It would do a lot of good in Jeremy's career. He'll no longer have to drive all the way into the paint with those big bodies hammering him.

      Also add PArker's development in his mid-range shots. In the past, he was dared by his opponents to shoot those mid-range shots. But right now, he can knock it down with consistency.

      Floaters and Mid-range shots should be the focus of Jeremy's training next summer.

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    10. The key for Lin to master those floaters the way Neph suggested is for Lin to engineer a trade that gets Tim Duncan to Houston.

      No Duncan, no yawning gaps on offense created by him just standing there scaring opponents into trailing him. No midrange game for Tony Parker either if Tim Duncan suddenly retires.

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    11. Parker's midrange game is not all Duncan simply because he always had Duncan to play off, but didn't develop a great midrange until a few years in (if I remember correctly). Parker has a great floater - one of the best in the league.

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    12. The way Lin can master mid range shots and floaters is to practice them.

      Simple as that.

      Parker shoots mid range and floaters in isolations too.

      I'm a Duncan fan too but no need to attribute PARKER's ELITE SCORING skill to Duncan.

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      Not one of the best BUT the BEST in the league. No one even uses the floaters as much as Parker.

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    14. "No need to attribute Parker's scoring to Duncan"

      Very UN-Spurs like for a Spurs homer, Neph. I thought you knew your own team better than that.

      Sports Illustrated was very careful to highlight Tim Duncan's importance in creating opportunities for Parker in that article they wrote about him. Until Parker retires, he will always play off the wonderful shots Tim Duncan creates for him.

      You don't even know Duncan's importance to your own team. But Gregg Popovich does, and that's why Popovich himself goes through Duncan for everything on and off the court.

      Lin shot midrange shots and floaters last season with ease, and he did that with merely Tyson Chandler who historically was a nonscorer until Lin elevated his game. If Lin had Tim Duncan, Lin would be finger rolling like George Gervin once did!

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    15. Yes

      It is a mutual relationship between them. Parker benefits from Duncan and Duncan also benefits from Parker. Duncan's game is primarily mid-range jumpshots and some pnr layups and dunks. So you could also say that the penetration done by Parker also benefits Duncan.

      It is both ways, it is not a relationship of dependence as you try to imply. It is not like Parker is some scrub you try to make him that is carried by Duncan all of his life.

      Does Duncan elevate Parker ? Sure

      Does Parker elevate Duncan ? Yes

      Parker is the best scorer in the pg position with or without Duncan. In game 6 of the WCF last season, the spurs weren't really running pnr due to the Thunders' switching. So the Spurs ran a lot of motion offense and isolation of Parker. I remembered Parker drop 30 or 40 points in that game. So, that was all on PArker.

      Tim Duncan is a great player. His screens are indeed great. But please stop implying that Parker will be a scrub without Duncan's screen.

      Those floaters he likes to use are mostly in fastbreak situations where there are NO SCREENS. There are also isolation plays that Parker scores on. So, I'm pretty sure that is due to Parker's skills.

      Listen, Duncan has been the best player for the Spurs for most of his career. But the last few years, there is no denying that they run their offense primarily on Parker. You don't see a lot of post ups for Duncan anymore. Even Pop and Duncan admit that it is PArker's team. So, I wouldn't doubt those two great minds.

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  23. I think we're all happy that Lin is doing well stats wise now, but I wouldn't say "Lin is back".

    If anything, this is a NEW Lin. If the old Lin is back, he'd get destroyed now that he is exposed/scouted. I'm sure that's not what people meant, but just wanted to make sure new fans or old fans returning understand that he had to IMPROVED A LOT, to the point that he is a lot more efficient even with much lower usage, and its starting to pay dividends...Add to the fact that this is a new system and he is doing this after knee surgery that many have said it affects your game/shot/whatever a lot, to say the odds were against him would be an understatement.

    This Lin is:

    1. Much less chaotic, much more controlled
    2. Much better at kicking the ball back out when he gets in trouble on a drive than taking forced shots, and better at resetting...Both to the point that we think he is passing too much
    3. Better at reading/taking high risk passes and is better at putting the ball in the receiver's hands, remember how his passes were too fast for Tyson/Amare often last year, there's a lot less of that this year, except for the occasional bad passes oob etc when he is exhausted
    4. Plays better D than last year even when under woodson

    And most of all:

    5. FIGHTS BACK EVEN WHEN HE WAS DOWN ABOUT HIMSELF BECAUSE OF MULTIPLE FACTORS AGGREGATING INTO HORRIBLE PERFORMANCES. That takes serious faith and courage son!!!

    He is maturing as a NBA player, and that's great. Of course there are still minuses to Lin:

    1. Does this Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde routine with his shooting...When he is confident and shoots with that snap and low arc he nails it. Then he'll revert to the high arc for no reason and airballs or all rim.

    2. Jump passes...He has been getting away in the past few games due to his improved speed/explosiveness but its still a source of TOs

    3. Conditioning, both physically and his knee...Still unclear if he is 100%, which time will tell

    4. Still hesitates sometimes when going to the rim or shooting, but that's happening less and less by the game

    5. Sharing role with Harden...Still have a lot to figure out because of how they overlap

    6. Ball handling is still suspect against athletic teams or under pressure, though its a marked improvement from last year

    Lin is getting better and better, I am really looking forward to the Lakers game to see how far he has come since the last meeting...Granted it wasn't long ago, but Lin is good like that.

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    1. Houston will beat the Lakers who were beat by Orlando. The Lakers don't play defense. I don't care what happened last game. The Rockets will be well rested and ready to make amends for their last meeting.

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    2. As for the high arc/low arc issue, I saw his 38 points game against Lakers last year, and all the shots he made had HIGH arc, which arc was relatively speaking higher than other players.

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    3. Yes, Agree. If Lakers played like what they did last night then Rockets sure can beat Lakers.

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    4. the high arc is awesome. the higher the better. they all look like prayer shots and when the opposition sees them droppin through the hoop, they get demoralized. it's all psychological...shuhow got it ALLLL figured out.

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  24. Can anyone explain to me, why does Milwaukee with a less win PCT stands above Philly and Atlanta? They only beat Philly once and they haven't played Atlanta. does the Rockets 2 losses against Blazers mean anything, even when Rockets have a higher winning PCT? Sorry i have no idea, how these standings work.

    http://www.nba.com/standings/team_record_comparison/conferenceNew_Std_Cnf.html

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    1. Probably the division standings.

      Philly is 3rd in the Atlantic

      Atlanta is 2nd in the southeast division

      Milwaukee is 1st in the central division

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    2. Divisional winners automatically get a top 4 seed at worst regardless of the records. Central division is the worst in the nba now, with their best team only at a 8-7 record.

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    3. If they were battling for the 8th seed and Rockets finish 3rd in the Southwest with a better winning PCT than Nuggets which finish 2nd in the Northwest. So which team goes through?

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    4. Rockets. Only divisional winners get automatic seeds. The rest are determined by records.

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    5. Now let's say if the Rockets finish 3rd in the Southwest while have a better record than the Nuggets who win the Northwest. Then the Nuggets would go through and become the 4th seed and the Rockets are out.

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    6. This is definitely the year of the "Leastern" Conference.

      Apart from Miami, there are no powerhouses in the East. I no longer consider Boston a powerhouse because getting rid of Ray Allen completely changes the complexion of the team.

      If Lin's 0.500 Rockets can beat Atlanta on their home floor, Chicago on their home floor, and New York by 30 points, that speaks volumes about how weak the East is!

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  25. If the Rockets are to make it to the playoffs, they must play by peaking at the right time. The way the Knicks are playing, they could be spent and burned out by mid season.

    I've a feeling that Lin and the Rockets are wisely pacing themselves to peak at the right time.

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    1. Exactly my thoughts. I am happy lin played with patience and maturity early on and steadily built his comeback to this point.Its a long season and I do hope he will peak at the critical stretch to lead the team for a spot in the playoffs.

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    2. Exactly my thoughts. I am happy lin played with patience and maturity early on and steadily built his comeback to this point.Its a long season and I do hope he will peak at the critical stretch to lead the team for a spot in the playoffs.

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  26. No matter how great Dwight Howard is, when the game is close, he's a liability down the stretch because his FT shooting is horrible. I got no respect for the guy who cannot shoot FT over 60% at least. Asik's immediate goal should be to improve setting screens to help Lin score more.

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    1. LAL's problem isn't D12, it's Shuhow. Cuz #7 gonna take the ball straight into him and drop some BUUHHHCKETS!

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  27. SI article, part of which talks about Lin's shot. Writer seems to agree with Scheppler. Scheppler actually comments. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/chris_ballard/11/30/houston-rockets-jeremy-lin-james-harden-daryl-morey/index.html

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    1. To be specific, people should scroll to the bottom where anyone can post comments not just the article. Doc Scheppler actually posts.

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    2. The below is what Doc says in his comment:

      "DocScheppler
      Chris. It's not a "new" shot. It's just reinforcing what we worked on last year. His arc should be 45 degrees and the rotation should be tight and synmetrical. When he shoots the ball in this manner, he is a great shooter. For example it'll be fun for you to watch the ball flight of his shots last year.
      When he shoots with confidence there's a nice confident, assertive wrist snap. When he's wishing the ball, his arc gets higher and the result is a short miss... I want him to get back to shooting with out care and to believe in his shot.
      Doc Scheppler"

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    3. Just one more comment. It's not true that Lin misses short most of the times; I have seen him miss left and right, etc.

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    4. A little off topic:

      Its funny how people still debate Lins "issues". IMHO people still overanalyse. Im just mentioning that cause Ive been reading here and on clutchfans a lot recently.

      Some say Lin lost his shot during the summer. I still remember Lins first Linsanity game (Nets) -> he missed almost all his jumpers :) He still scored 25 mainly by layups and free throws and people were like "MVP - MVP - MVP". A couple of games later his shooting was awesome (Lakers game) and he really made Kobe look bad. His coach couldnt believe it, too. So - JLin has always been a bit of a streaky shooter - even during Linsanity. Yes - there was a bad shooting slump but thank god hes out of it now.

      Its interesting though that he doesnt just have his shooting back - he has been more active, more agile and quicker (though still not 100% I believe) - it seemed like it all came back at the same time.

      During his first games this season it often appeared like JLin was out of juice by the end of the game. Some noted that he seemed so out of power he couldnt even tribble the ball anymore. Some noticed that he was falling a lot. I think he was icing his knee when he was on the bench, too. Now however it looks like hes all OK. I wonder if all those "conditions" were related to each other... :)

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    5. BTW:

      JLin has never been "the shooter" even during Linsanity. And yet - when he made his 3 pointer against Toronto he credited Doc Scheppler for it. I think his words were "helped me a ton with my shots". Anyway - as time goes by JLin will know if Doc Scheppler is the right coach or not. For now - it looks good.

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    6. His shot should not be 45 degrees. It's hard to accept the rampant anti-rationalism of society. The fact is, the world is full of people who just don't know what they're talking about. Sometimes, even often, it's me. A lot of times, though, it's people in high profile positions that are right about some things that got them into that high profile position, but are wrong, very wrong, about other things, even things they're supposed to be experts in. A 45 degree angle on a basketball shot is just wrong. That does not maximize the rim clearance for the ball.

      If Lin is shooting the ball short, then he needs to propel the ball with more force. Period. Not change the angle of the shot. He is strong enough to shoot the ball with optimal arc from three point range.

      If you think a flat shot could be better for shooting, please stop for a moment and imagine a rim at eye height. Imagine looking at it. Get a rim if you have one. Now take a ball and put it through the rim at a 45 degree angle. Notice the aperture area available to make it through. Now pass the ball through the hoop from directly above, angle perpendicular to the ground. Notice how much larger the aperture area is? This leaves out some subtleties of the reasoning but it should give you a good intuitive grasp at the issues in play.

      The problem with this misguided advice is exacerbated if the claim is that he should always shoot with a 45 degree angle because, IN ACTUALITY, the arc of a shot should INCREASE the closer you get to the basket. This is indisputable physics. Indisputable. There can be NO dispute. Drives me crazy. The physics is documented in plenty of places. Google search.

      It's possible that Lin's shot can improve in the short term by using a flatter shot. That's because there are other factors involved in shooting, for example confidence. If Lin THINKS shooting flatter is making him shoot better, it will become a self-fulfilling prophecy in the near term. But he will never maximize his shooting potential.

      Steve Nash doesn't have a flat shot.

      Moreover, Scheppler's mention of wrist snap is so misguided. It's nice if there's a wrist snap, but he should not be focusing on it or mentioning it as a coaching cue, which he seems to be doing. Players should NOT focus on the wrist snap. The wrist snap is the natural conclusion to a properly sequenced shot. In all sports, optimal movement efficiency requires a proximal to distal sequence. Coaching cues on shooting should start with movement close to the center of mass. Shooting: Cock the ball, start the push with the big strong muscles of the lats...your triceps and wrists will follow through naturally with no thought, and with the proper arc. He should not be consciously snapping his wrists.

      If I were Lin's shooting coach, he'd be a better game shooter. Proper mechanics allow you to shoot well even when your confidence is low. Steve Nash has proper mechanics. Jeremy Lin does not, and it sounds like they're getting worse. Short term improvements should never take precedence over long term optimality.

      I also disagree with Scheppler that Lin shouldn't jump on his shot. It is very possible to be an extremely accurate shooter while taking a full jump. And practicing shooting that way allows you to get off athletic shots in many situations that set shooters cannot. Ray Allen jumps on his shot. Steve Nash doesn't have a huge vertical but he takes full jumps on his three pointers[1]. Players who take full jumps on their jumpers have more versatility in getting their shots in crunch time.

      [1] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9IrxbhTKUc

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    7. to quote Dennis Scott...Shuhow's DRAH-PPIN BUHH-CKETS! shooting mechanics, whatever. it's been an all out assault by Shuhow ever since NYK. i can't wait til we catch up to those frauds, the knicks. shut all those knick fans up that are still complaining about the poison pill and how Lin wasn't worth it. sheesh.

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    8. Michael - do some fact finding research on shooting to add to your knowledge. Start with Noah Basketball as one. Check out the Miami Heat and Ray Allen using Noah as a means to help become better shooters.
      Also If you read the material clearly. He wants Jeremy to Jump quickly, explosively, but with discipline and control.

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    9. The discussion on the optimal shooting arc is fascinating. I think Doc's method of using 45 degree can work with some caveats.

      Jumpah, thanks for the Noah's basketball arc reference that has a nice diagram of different shooting angle.

      Should we keep the shooting arc
      Option 1. at a consistent angle of 45 degrees (or 44,43, 42 depending of the shooter height) ? OR
      Option 2. vary the angle depending on how close we are to the basketball rim? For example, a high-arc 60 degrees at 2 ft and flatter/lower arc 40 degree at the 3PT line.

      I tend to agree with Option 1 with consistent angle beyond 2-3 ft of the rim (depending on the height of the shooter) because as far as physics are concerned, you can shoot from anywhere from the court with 45 degree but the highest point of the trajectory would be different.

      Michael, perhaps you're thinking that the highest point of the trajectory is the same from 1 ft to 3PT line so that's why you think the angle has to change from flat to high-arc.

      When I was practicing shooting regularly 10-15 years ago and got the "hot streak", I can use a consistent angle (45 degrees or 46 degree I'm not sure because I never measure) and make 60%-70% of shots from 3PT line to almost half-court. I just need to focus on the back part of the rim and pick the changing "highest point" of the trajectory of my 45-degree shot and I get a good feeling it will go "swish" or at least hit the rim well.

      Granted, beyond half-court it was harder to "imagine" much higher "highest point of the trajectory" and has the power to launch a really high arc shot unless you're LeBron but I think Doc's method to maintain 45 degree can be effective from 2 ft from the rim to almost half-court based on my personal experience.

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    10. You're welcome! Learning is a good thing. I certainly wouldn't want Michael to be one of those individuals that DON'T know what they are talking about when it comes to shooting or are spitting out information that is outdated or what they were coached to do. Once again check out the Noah website if you're going to spout out indisputable physics like you're an expert.

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  28. Derek Rivera ‏@Derek_GoldenBoy
    Photo shoot fresh with my homie @JLin7 for the sports illustrated magazine!

    Does this mean that Lin got the SI cover for the Most Inspirational Performer of 2012? SI was supposed to announce it today...

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  29. LAL...Shuhow and the Rox smell that blood in the water! It's gonna be epic. D12, we don't need you. we got asik who's gonna wipe the backboard with your ass-ets.
    prediction: shuhow with another double double, and Rox by hand count. hollaa!

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    1. I remembered Dwight making Asik look like a scrub in their previous meeting.

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    2. The Rockets are the 2nd worst team when it comes to points allowed. Only the pathetic Suns allow more points than the Defenseless Rockets.

      BTW, it is only by a small margin.

      Parsons better defend Kobe well unlike the last meeting.

      Just too many mistmatches against the Rockets.

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    3. I just hope for 10+ points from Lin, maintaining his steady production would be good enough for me.

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  30. I can picture Asik bobbling lin's bailout drop offs when lin drives no where to go. Please let me be wrong tmrrw

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    1. Another thing I don't want to see: lin driving and pump faking before shooting or pump faking then turnaround shot. Didn't do it last game. Hope he doesn't bring it back

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  31. screenname fauxscandinavian posted this on tumblr:

    Jeremy Lin 2012-13 Season TOP 10 in November:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Idd6Rm2X3u4

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    1. Thanks, HY!

      No 1 is fittingly a classic JLin And-1 play against Portland big men. That tells me his speed can beat the athletic Aldridge who was waiting to block his shot :)

      The announcer said "Simply Lincredible!"

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  32. eb5attorney, you had a good question in the Rockets vs Jazz thread about why Lin's driving lanes seemed more open.

    My attempt at answering is this: The Rockets are sending their forwards all the way to the 3 point line off Lin and Harden's drives.

    Lin is still drawing double teams, plus he has a 3rd defender waiting to pick off his short bailout pass to the Rocket closet to the goal. But instead of forcing the pass to a forward who's positioned a little too close to the rim and thus can get the pass intercepted, Lin now can fire that bailout pass all the way to the 3 point line for easy uncontested jumpers.

    The change in the Rockets strategy has opened up the court and reduced pressure on Lin. Opponents can no longer collapse the lane on Lin and intercept the bailout passes since the Houston forwards are spaced out.

    From what I see, it's the same ol Jeremy Lin that was struggling at the beginning of the season. The difference is that the coaching staff is now implementing more off the ball motion for the forwards. I even saw a few flex screens off a low ministack that resulted in Rockets big men getting wide open shots in the mid range down low!

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    1. I previously wrote that the Rockets would have trouble playing against teams with athletic pogo stick forwards that can close out on shooters and block shots inside.

      Against teams like Portland and Okc and Miami, Lin and the Rockets struggle because the opposing forward are quick enough to double team Lin off the drive but then recover to guard the outside bailout shooters.

      There are times when iso ball becomes necessary, and that's the case against teams like LAC which can double on penetrating guards but rotate fast enough to intercept the bailout pass or challenge the perimeter jump shot.

      If Houston's young forwards can occasionally put the ball on the floor and create their own shots, Houston definitely would become a contender winning 50 games this season.

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    2. KHuang, you hit the nail on the right spot.

      I just listened to the weekly Rocketscast between Jason Friedman and Craig Ackerman talking about how Patterson's improved shooting allowed him to move to the 3PT line and cleared the driving lane for Jeremy.

      It's worth listening what they think about how JLin just blew by Mo Williams over and over again and how the cleared driving lane is similar to the NY situation when Tyson Chandler was the only one close to the rim and Novak was always on the 3PT line.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mQd_yohb0ow#t=31m31s

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  33. So many negative articles on Jeremy Lin in spite of his good performance. I have decided to ignore this articles, with negative titles. Clearing baiting and trying to get numbers up. So we start a awareness to get fans to stop commenting and just simply ignore these articles?

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    1. I had a Lin Flame-o-meter going, but the mountain of negative flame articles overwhelmed my puny little counter!!!

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    2. The counter broke from the weight of negative expectations!!!

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    3. @ deadfish

      Don't know if ignoring these articles will be the best thing. [Depends on the circulation. BR and their ilk should be ignored.]

      Erroneous claims unrefuted -> morphs into common "knowledge" [taken as fact.]

      For example, it took JLin's SI article so long to come out and dispel the lies about he Rox contract revision that people who have committed themselves to the SAS narrative [it's about the money] have become comfortable with the lie and will not reconsider. [Their cognitive dissonance have found resolution in the lie and they don't want to re-organize their thoughts again.]

      People are lazy thinkers and confirmation bias runs rampant. If no one points out the fallacies in these articles, they will simply be taken as truths.

      At the heels of the HuffPost article comes CBSsports with their own neg article. Someone in the media points out the ridiculous assumptions from backpedalling Doyel.

      Robin Lundberg ‏@robinlundberg
      @OxxxxxMxxx It boggles my mind that Jeremy Lin as a player is frozen in time as no 24-year-old has ever had ups/downs or gotten better.
      1:39 PM - 30 Nov 12

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    4. Robin Lundberg is awesome. He has real bbiq and provides stats to back up his claims. He's not a Lin homer but he believes that Lin has potential.

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    5. True. He's all about the data.


      At the height of JLin-bashing [July], he was one of the first to counter the lies about JLin's FA.

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  34. Are the Rockets trying to make the playoffs this year or are they going to tank it to get a chance at the lottery?

    If they're trying to make it to the playoffs, then do you think a mid-season acquisition of a PF is in the works? Or do they think they can make it with what they have right now?

    If they're trying to tank it and not make it obvious, will they sit Jlin more to get below .500 every time they reach .500.

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  35. Evan Leong's docu on JLin at Sundance

    Hoops hoopla. Director Evan Long's relationship to former New York Knicks basketball player Jeremy Lin begins long before last season's craziness on the courts, when the overlooked benchwarmer hit instant stardom. Linsanity, the documentary, features the story behind the media phenom.

    It also might bring Lin to Sundance. His current team, the Houston Rockets, plays the nearby Utah Jazz toward the end of the festival.

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  36. This is awesome. I've been following him even when times weren't as rosy. Non-Asian folks have been talking mad trash at him, and soon, they are going to eat it.

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