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  3. Mayweather's opinion wasn't "racist" per was just hilariously ignorant and indicative of an idiot's thought process.

    1. Factually speaking, Floyd is 100% indisputably wrong. Jeremy set NBA records during Linsanity, so no player -- black, white or Asian -- has ever done what Jeremy did. Much less "every night."

    2. Yes, Jeremy did get tons of extra attention during Linsanity because he's Asian American...but he also got unjustly IGNORED by colleges, scouts and NBA teams for the same reason. He dealt with prejudice that black players never had to deal with. Only an idiot like Floyd wouldn't get this.

    3. Straight talk time: Because of the ugly history of racism in the US, black people can be extremely protective of "their" domains -- areas in which they've thrived and won acclaim. Domains like basketball and hip-hop. As a result, many of them resent people of other races taking away their spotlight -- especially Asians, who are perceived as "model minorities."

    On the bright side, for every black person that hates on Jeremy Lin, there's another one or two who are fans of Lin and admire his story precisely because of the racial barriers he's broken.

    1. 1. Jeremy Lin set records, but lots of guys set records. Can you name any other record-setters in the NBA? Or can you name the guy whose records Jeremy Lin broke? Lin's play certainly merited notice, but there is meriting notice and there is global Linsanity sensation that generated hundreds of millions of dollars. To put it another way ... Cam Newton broke a ton of records last season. Most passing yards by a QB in a debut. Most passing yards by a rookie for a season. Most rushing TDs by any QB ever. Did it get him noticed? Yes. But Linsanity? Not even close. Not in the same ballpark. Not in the same galaxy. And the NFL is a more popular, higher profile sport than the NBA.

      2. "He dealt with prejudice that black players never had to deal with." Actually, Mayweather's point is that black players are still dealing with prejudice because they don't get the attention for their athletic excellence that Lin gets.

      3. Straight talk: first off, blacks are well used to other races succeeding in the NBA. And there have been plenty of non-black rappers that received no friction from the black community (the Beastie Boys, Eminem, House of Pain, Third Bass, as well as a ton of Hispanic rappers ... really the only one to catch any backlash was Vanilla Ice, and that was only because Vanilla Ice got the mainstream support and attention that black rappers weren't getting at the time ... radio stations and video channels that wouldn't go near black rappers, even inoffensive ones like Will Smith aka The Fresh Prince, gave a ton to Vanilla Ice). Blacks don't resent Lin succeeding in the NBA. To the extent that any resentment exists at all, it is because many blacks feel that Lin has gotten more fame - and more money - than he would have had he been black. And to threaten the "black domain" ... look, even if Lin is the best player in the NBA, what race would #2-100 on the list be, mostly? All Lin proves is that Asians can play basketball (which by the way is something that we already knew because of Rex Walters and Yao Ming). So, add Asians to a list that already included Hispanics, Native Americans and obviously blacks and whites. Doesn't mean anything until it begins to actually affect the number/percentage of black players in the NBA, and even there all but a few legitimately racist cranks will conclude that the NBA should just get the best players no matter what color they are, and if it is Asians, Hispanics, Bulgarians so be it. The whole "model minority" thing only comes into play because some blacks feel that Linsanity (not the play on the court but the global media phenomenon before he had played even 10 games!) happened because of the model minority thing. Again, compare less than 10 games with Lin to Venus and Serena Williams having to win several majors ... the US Open and Wimbledon multiple times ... before their media fame and marketability even approached Linsanity, and lest we forget it took them years before they won majors. (And to this day many of detractors deny that the Williams sisters are actually good at tennis in terms of skill and strategy and claim that their success is due to their being speedy hulking brutes who just overpower everyone.)

      So yes, there are black fans who don't think that Lin is that good. And there are more who think that he is pretty good, but not great. Before you attribute it to anti-Asian racism, please realize that the same diversity of opinion among blacks also exists about BLACK players. Example: Carmelo Anthony. Some black fans love him, others despise him, most are indifferent. Another example: LeBron James. You don't think that there weren't a ton of black NBA fans who regarded him as overrated, overhyped and a choker in big moments of big games until he won a championship this year? There are also lots of black fans who despise Kobe Bryant, who couldn't stand Shaquille O'Neal, and thought David Robinson was soft. It is called differences of opinions, and it happens.

    2. "All Lin proves is that Asians can play basketball (which by the way is something that we already knew because of Rex Walters and Yao Ming)."

      Those are not good examples given the fact that there are plenty of people who think Yao was only good due to being 7'6 and still think he's soft because he got dunked on all the time.

      Rex Walters, although also being Asian-American, he's bi-racial. Plenty of people here on argued that they don't see him as a pioneer or not even the 1st Asian-American in the NBA, which applies to most people who just saw Rex play and didn't know of his ethnic background.

      But your original point still stands that Lin's story certainly proves that Asian-Americans can play basketball.

    3. See, Hater Unknown thinks that Lin's historic start makes him inferior to black players.


    4. JLin's story is testament to one man's PERSISTENCE THROUGH CONSTANT DISCRIMINATION [further illustrated by Mayweather.]

    5. @Unknown

      You wrote a lot of words there, but you're still missing the point entirely.

      When did Cam Newton not get any D-I scholarships? When did Cam Newton not get drafted? When was Cam Newton cut twice? His success was not surprising. Jeremy Lin, however, came out of nowhere.

      Jeremy Lin is getting extra attention because of the obstacles he had to overcome -- obstacles that black basketball players don't have to face.

      Also: Jeremy Lin is also the ONLY ASIAN AMERICAN IN THE ENTIRE NBA RIGHT NOW. If Cam Newton were the only black player in the NFL, he'd be getting Linsanity attention, too.

    6. @Unknown

      If JLin is getting attention for being Asian, isn't this even more proof of racism against Asians? [or do you really think NOT ONE ASIAN could ball until JLin came along IN 2012?]

      So what if there are diversity of opinions on black players? They can hate black players on merit and hate JLin bec of race. They can even do that simultaneously, one does not preclude the other. [After all, people use a diff set of rules for JLin, or why would they bash his contract, him and only him?]

      Besides, this is about Mayweather, & wasn't he quite clear? It's about RACE. The "undeserved" attention was not about JLin's skills. It's not about his historic start. It's not about persistence and faith in oneself [despite being discriminated against/ overlooked again and again.] It's not about his refreshing unselfish play, against the backdrop of impotent superstar posturing. It's not about the feel-good elements from: being cut, sent to DL, sleeping on someone's couch, then a sudden reversal of fortune [Underdog triumphs.] It's not about the unlikelihood of his background [Harvard, Palo Alto.] It's not about NY being a media capital. No, IT'S JUST HIS RACE.

      Since you're privy to how Mayweather thinks, perhaps you can enlighten us as to what he meant when he said "make some sushi rolls and cook some rice" to Pacquiao [whose name he continues to deliberately mispronounce.]

      HE IS A RACIST AND AN OPPORTUNIST. [Maybe it's time to consider why you think the way he does.]

      What's reprehensible is how Mayweather, a minority himself [and should know what it's like to be on the receiving end of racism] would use racism against another for his own gain/ publicity. He spits on what minorities fought for.

      What a tragedy that he finds support for his crap IN 2012. [From racists, from PC-"rebels"/ contrarian posers, from opportunistic maintainers of the status quo, from gullible sheep.]

    7. Unknown is one of Jeremy Lin's biggest FANS.

      He asks us to name the guys that had their records broken by Jeremy Lin.

      That's a LONG list, considering that Jeremy Lin outscored and outassisted everybody in the entire NBA since 1970 in his first 7 starts!

      Let's make an All-NBA list of guys whose records Jeremy Lin broke in that timespan. To give Unknown his racial due in criticizing Lin, I'll "spot him" a 2nd team too.

      1st Team:
      PG: Magic Johnson
      SG: Michael Jordan
      SF: Larry Bird
      PF: Karl Malone
      C: Shaquille O'Neal

      2nd Team:
      PG: Isiah Thomas
      SG: Kobe Bryant
      SF: Lebron James
      PF: Tim Duncan
      C: Hakeem Olajuwon

      We could go on with this, but I think we've answered Unknown's question good enough for now.

  4. Even though you removed the Chris Brossard video link, I agree with him in the part that had Lin did the same thing with a small market team the hype wouldn't have been that big.

    Lin being Asian-American certainly helped his hype, but #1 reason has always been because he was in NY. If he did what he did in either NY or with the Lakers, the hype would have gone crazy. People who can only see the "Asian" part of the story don't have critical thinking skills, as even though his Asian heritage certainly played a huge factor, it was only one of the many factors and really what Lin had gone through was a perfect storm.

    Mayweather knew by saying what he did would also cause controversy. He plays the villain role pretty good and we all know some Asian fans don't like him either and called him out on his racist comments towards Pacquiao, so he just did what he did best and made comments so more people to hate him. He did it again and bet $900k on the Nets the second time D-Will faced Lin.

  5. If Mayweather wanted to speak up for black athletes he should have done so. Its not like he wrote an essay about the issues of black athletes. It was a short and simple tweet with the intention to bash JLin. How can one interpret good will into it? If Floyd wrote those lines in good will - it shows he doesnt have the smarts to do good what makes him a massive idiot. Massive idiot or racist - he will have to pick one of the two.

    Why do people have problems with JLins fame and stardom at all? How can people claim it would have been different had JLin played like that somewhere else? Precedence? Granted - things get bigger faster in NY. But that doesnt change the fact that he outscored Kobe as exciting as he did. Did NY do it? Did Melo do it?

    Whats the verdict? People blame JLin for doing the right thing at the right place at the right time? Since when is that a crime? Those haters and enviers tend to forget that NY doesnt make it eassier for anyone. Thats why people always say "If I can make it there Ill make it anywhere". If you judge JLin by the argument that only NY made him big - how will you judge over all the "losers" who have played in NY and nor got fame or success or money?

    JLin might have a target on his back but so do the Knicks players. With all thats been said and done by Knicks management, Knicks players and Knicks fans - people will laugh their asses off if Knicks dont play A LOT better than last year.

    Anyway - the "NY made him big" argument doesnt work at all. Its like claiming that Donald Trump wouldnt have made it (the way he did) in Stockholm or Madrid. Broussard would surely claim that therefor Trump shoudlnt be rich or famous or considered a successful businessman at all.

    The domain argument explains peoples behavior - it doesnt make it right. Some call it protecting the domain - others call it racism and mobbing.

    1. " Massive idiot or racist - he will have to pick one of the two."

      Door #3 does exist. That is the opinion that while Jeremy Lin is an outstanding player, his play would have received much less attention had he been A) black (or white or Hispanic for that matter) and B) playing in Utah. Lin's play and the near billion dollar phenomenon that is Linsanity are two different things. Taking the position that they are one and the same and that anyone who disagrees with it is a racist is not a box or corner that anyone is going to allow themselves to be painted into.

      That is why the "why are people blaming Lin" angle doesn't work. Blaming Lin for being a great player? Who is doing that? It is the (according to their opinion) disproportionate attention that he is getting that is the issue, and they put that blame on the media and on the American mainstream.

      "But that doesnt change the fact that he outscored Kobe as exciting as he did. Did NY do it? Did Melo do it?"

      Ummm ... Melo has outplayed and outscored Kobe Bryant and every other star in the NBA plenty of times. That's why guys like them get criticized for NOT regularly playing at a high level and for NOT winning titles. To put it another way: Lin outscored Kobe once. Others have beaten Kobe in playoff series and their next turn as a big time international advertising superstar and mention as one of Time Magazine's most influential will be their first. And that, er, was Mayweather's whole point.

      "If Mayweather wanted to speak up for black athletes he should have done so. Its not like he wrote an essay about the issues of black athletes."

      And how was he supposed to do this? If he is talking about the racism that black athletes experience, the way to do that is, well, use an example of racism (according to his opinion). So, Mayweather is only allowed to mention whites when talking about racism against black athletes? Why? Isn't that racist? And truthfully, he was. Mayweather's real target wasn't Lin to begin with, but with the white people who run corporate America that he believes gave a lot more attention to Lin than they would have a black athlete who accomplished the same (or more). And yes, he was using himself as his own example. Mayweather is a five division world champion and has won 8 world titles and before then was a top amateur boxer. So ... he has gotten less attention for being one of the top boxers in the world for 20 years than Lin got for being a superior NBA player for less than 10 games. Black man: 20 years. Asian man: 10 games. Is it the fault of the single Asian athlete? Of course not. The fault of the mainstream media (and a larger mainstream culture that the mainstream media serves) for embracing one and not the other? You had better believe it.

      So, he will not pick one of the two, and neither will the ton of people - not all of whom are black incidentally - who feel the same way. And here's the deal: even if Jeremy Lin goes on to a Hall of Fame NBA career, becomes a top line guy up there with Jerry West, Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan, Wilt Chamberlain etc. folks are still going to say that the world-enveloping frenzy - not a few headlines and ESPN highlights but a global phenomenon and the biggest sports story in like 20 years - was not justified by 10 or so games, and they will say that based on the fact that no one else generated that sort of frenzy on so few games. So sorry, the "others" who call it racism and mobbing (???) are just going to be people with their own opinions just like Mayweather, again whose being the #1 paid athlete in 2012 still wasn't enough to make him one of Time Magazine's most influential.

    2. See, Mayweather didn't say "Lin is receiving some extra attention because he's Asian". He said Lin is receiving ALL his attention because he's Asian[1]. It wouldn't matter whether he's black or white or any other race...if he said that, people would find it offensive. It's not like this is a point where reasonable people can disagree. It's very clear: Lin broke the record for most points in his first, what, 5 starts? If ANY player had done that, he'd have gotten a lot of attention. If that player were also undrafted and went to Harvard and played in NYC, yup: The attention would be even more enormous. If that player's also Asian? Oh, no doubt, add some more. But see that? It wasn't JUST being Asian that did it, just like it isn't JUST because Tiger woods is Cablasian that he become a money printer when he broke onto the scene.

      If Mayweather had said, "I think Jeremy Lin is getting some extra attention because he's a trailblazer for Asian Americans in the NBA" I'm pretty sure no one would be offended. However, that's not what he said, and so it makes people who want to defend him a little suspect, no?

      America celebrates black race trailblazers whenever they emerge. Tiger Woods being both an amazing golfer and Cablasian was absolutely part of his appeal. What if a famous white athlete had tweeted at the time, "The only reason Tiger Woods is getting attention is cos he's black."

      Most of America celebrates ANY race trailblazers of any color. So it makes those who don't, like Mayweather, stick out like racist sore thumbs.

      [1] "Jeremy Lin is a good player but all the hype is because he's Asian. Black players do what he does every night and don't get the same praise." In fact, at the time, Lin was still in the process of breaking IMPORTANT (scoring and assists, not just random, we're-looking-for-records-for-Lin-to-beat) records that had been set by players of all races, so no, black people weren't doing "what he does every night". Moreover, for several games after his comments, Lin had the number one PER among all point guards and second in the NBA. So, no, current black players were not doing "what he does every night".

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    4. @Michael Terry:

      Unknown has only one thing in mind -> bashing Lin. You wont convince him no matter what. Hes a hater and haters will always hate. Hes trying to rationalize his hatred and envy and he will never be unbiased.

      Lets get down to Unknowns level for a moment and say that JLin, a great athlete, had won the lottery (wich is what he or Mayweather basicly claim -> JLin was just lucky and didnt deserve the attention) -> they will still bicker about it. They envy and hate the man for hitting the jackpot. If a black man hits the jackpot (what happens all the time) asians are supposed to be happy about it. If an asian man hits the jackpot Unknown bickers about it. End of story.

      American dream yes - sharing with ONE asian american -> no.

      They ignore all the asians around the world who have been rooting for black players for decades without envy, hatred or racism (like me or JLin). The moment an asian american player (one of a handful) gets some attention they get bitchy about it and claim black people are treated unfairly. Totally makes sense.

      The fact that asia goes crazy the moment Kobe sets foot on asia? The fact that a lot of black players go to china cause they either dont have a contract at home or want to make extra $$$?

      Well - guess what Unknown - JLin was also treated unfairly throughout his entire career. And it doesnt seem like you or Mayweather are going to stop treating him unfairly. On the other hand - most NBA players I can remember are black... so... what is your or Mayweathers problem again?

      Unknown claims that Lin got more attention for 10 games than Mayweather for 20 years of boxing. Well - he forgets that Mayweather has hundreds of millions of dollars and is likely to be a billionaire soon while Lin got much less than a million for last season. Yeah - poor poor Mayweather! Like I said - they victimize themselves.

      Again - Lindsay Lohan gets more attention than Stephen Hawking. Why doesnt he bicker about that? Cause Lindsay is not asian. Somehow there are people on this planet who believe that they - no matter how bad things are - can always LOOK DOWN onto asians and bash asians. That is the essence of racism. I cant explain that Mayweather/Unknown phenomenon otherwise.

      BTW: I never claimed JLin was the only one to have ever outscored Kobe. But JLin was probably the only one who had done so few days after he was started. We are talking about a man who was about to give up basketball cause he was repeatedly cut from teams. Were talking about a man who had to fight through racial taunts and whatever to get the chance to play basketball while he graduated from Hardvard to make his parents happy. Do black players have that problem? If so - write an essay about it, attack the white man and the "industry" and give it to the NY times to publicise.

      Unknown or Mayweather may make more sense this way :)

      Dont drag an asian ahtlete down who has probably worked harder, suffered more and was treated worse than most contemporary black players. That doesnt make Mayweather just racist or dumb - it makes him racist and double dumb. Cant even choose between the two.

      Yes - I admit it. Black people are being treated unfairly on a regular basis - but so are asians. I dont know any asians who would treat a black man unfairly. We asians have never enslaved black people and we are not responsible for black athletes being treated unfairly. WE ARE BEING TREATED UNFAIRLY AS WELL! Dont act like you didnt know that. Dont pretend youre picking on asians because you are civil right activists who are fighting the power...

    5. @willy dilly

      Bashing Asians is an ugly American tradition that is frequently normalized and accepted by most people in the USA.

      In America, racism against groups like Asians, Muslims, Arabs is tacitly accepted or, at least, not as vilified as compared to racism against certain other more vocal groups.

      That's how things roll in Barack Obama's glorious "post-racial" America. LOL.

  6. so does anyone know how to watch preseason rockets games? is league pass going to be broadcasting them?

    1. It doesn't seem like NBA League Pass is broadcasting preseason games. NBA TV is broadcasting preseason games, but seems that it isn't included in the NBA LP package.

    2. Wow, just noticed that the Houston vs NYK game on 17 December will not be on NBA LP.

    3. NBA League Pass has shown pre-season games in the past. Since it hasn't started yet, I'd wait to see what happens. The Rockets are going to switch to a brand new channel this season, CSN Houston which is still be negotiated with other carriers.

      Their schedule hasn't been updated yet either so it's more wait and see.

    4. @wilc,

      That's because that game's nationally televised on NBATV.

    5. @ Michael Terry

      I realised that it will be on NBA TV, but I bought the (international) NBA LP and this year NBA TV is not part of the package, which means it being on NBA TV is unfortunately a blackout for me! Considering I got the league pass because I'll be overseas and where I won't access to usual channels offered in Canada, I won't be able to watch those games on an actual TV either! I guess the solution is to shell out a few more dollars to buy the NBA TV option as well....

  7. Jeremy Lin indeed is the Asian American Jackie Robinson.

    Lin's not putting up with any less abuse than Jackie Robinson did. Such is the nature of being a racial trendsetter.

    There are all sorts of people with an anti-Lin agenda. However, those people eventually fade into obscurity. I would know, having been headhunted myself no less viciously than Lin has been headhunted.

    Lin just needs to work on his game and be the best player he can be. The fighting racism part, that's OUR job!

    1. "Lin's not putting up with any less abuse than Jackie Robinson did."

      Ummm ... Robinson put up with much more abuse than Lin ever will. And Robinson didn't have anywhere near as many defenders as Lin does. And as bad as not getting a college scholarship, going to D-League and getting cut from teams was, compare that to Robinson playing in the Negro Leagues until the age of 28 like Robinson did.

      I am sorry, but Jeremy Lin in a fully integrated, much more progressive 2011-2012 versus Jackie Robinson in the thick of Jim Crow (4 years before Brown vs. Board of Education and 12 years before the universities in his home state of Georgia were "integrated", and that is accepting the idea that letting in 2 students was actual integration) is a terrible comparison. Maybe Warren Moon is a better one. And even there, Moon had to play in the CFL until he was 28 (in 1984!) after dominating college football (and not getting drafted!), and even when he entered the NFL after shattering records and winning titles for 6 years in Canada, the Oilers were the only team willing to guarantee his contract (and even there at a very small salary). That puts Lin's 3 year, $25.1 million contract with the Rockets in perspective. So no, Warren Moon isn't a good comparison point either.

    2. @ Unknown,

      True. On the other hand, Lin absolutely has faced more deliberate, personal, direct racism than all but an unimaginably tiny fraction of people in the last couple of generations. Did you see his Facebook page after signing with Houston? How often do opposing fans at NCAA games hold up racist signs aimed at blacks, say, or opposing players call a black dude "n____r"?

    3. Good posts Michael Terry.

      In Lin's case, the Facebook comments have been there since Day 1 when he joined the Knicks. Whether it be first joining the Knicks, getting hype and then having a horrible game against the Heat, and then finally leaving and joining the Rockets. However, I also count that towards the extreme reaction in a big market like New York. When things are good, they will overhype their players, but when things are bad then all hell would break loose. Same thing happens with Lakers fans.

      The Jackie Robinson is probably a stretch, but what I think people are arguing is what seems to be the open racism/prejudice towards Asians in the U.S. media and culture. Lin has explained his story plenty of times, whether it was in high school and stigma held up against him that he couldn't play or all the racial taunts that were said against him when he played away games for Harvard.

      It's sad to see it continue through social media, but it gets even worse when politics come into play as well.

    4. It's totally typical of Hater Unknown to hate on Lin and Lin's fans.

      Hater Unknown's attitude that Lin is "fully integrated" is exactly why Lin is the modern day Jackie Robinson. Just as Robinson faced ostracism and hatred, Lin does too from people like Hater Unknown.

      When it's all said and done, Lin's name will be foremost in American history books just like Robinson's is. And Hater Unknown will clap in appreciation of Lin's Hall of Fame ceremony just like the rest of us "fully integrated" Americans will.

    5. I think the closest comparison would be Wat Misaka, the Japanese American point guard who was drafted by .... The New York Knicks in 1946, go look up his history.... Many interesting parallels in how Wat Misaka was treated by Knicks management and his own teammates back then.

    6. @ Unknown

      It's BECAUSE IT'S 2012 that it's more galling.

      Racism against Asian-Americans is so written into the fabric of society that it's taken for granted.

    7. Unknown, I agree with you that the comparison is not perfect, but in some sense, the fact that JLin receives open racial taunts in this more integrated society is all the more appalling. Let me tell you why a person like myself, an Asian-American, respects JLin so much (I know there are many reasons that others can like or respect JLin). For me, it's not his Christianity or his humbleness; in some level, I really don't care all that much whether JLin as a public figure is humble or Christian, etc. One primary reason I understand, sympathize and respect him so much is that I know how difficult it must have been for him to break into the NBA as an Asian-American and become a starter. Also, another aspect in which my perspective on JLin differs slightly from some of people who post on this board is that I would respect and like JLin just as much even if JLin ultimately becomes an average NBA starter or even a solid back-up that many say JLin is. The fact that he, like my own kid who grew up in the US, broke through the NBA barrier has already shown many Asian-Americans that they can excel in any and all endeavors. I know JLin did not play basketball so he can help Asian-Americans, but the fact that he has shown a way, all Asian-Americans, whether you like or do not like JLin -- we all owe JLin a round of applause. Of course, this does not mean we cannot criticize him. In this sense ,we feel we share this sense of solidarity and gratefulness to JLin.

      And if I may, I would like to end by saying thanks to JLin: Thank you and we share and understand the struggles you went through to get where you are. For this reason, I also have a tremendous respect for Jackie Robinson who paved the way for other blacks to enter and succeed in MLB.

    8. I'm one of "those people" that would be extremely disappointed if Jeremy Lin became only an "average starter" or "solid backup".

      For Lin to become that, he'd have to DOWNGRADE his game dramatically. He'd have to stop being so athletic, stop having such good court vision, and stop being so productive on both ends of the court. That would be a major disappointment, especially if injury was not the reason.

      I don't see people respecting Lin any less here should he not reach the lofty goal of even being a solid NBA backup (a Herculean feat in itself). But given the way Lin has consistently produced for the last two years, it would be unfortunate to see Lin "sink" to average starter level!

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    1. Nice remake of Kanye's "Addiction"

  10. Unknown: you may have come to the wrong fan site.

    1. Unknown comes on this site to specifically bash, denigrate, downplay JLin. He's what you call a troll considering this is a JLin fan site. It's deliberate. Unknown has not come on this site ONCE to say good things about JLin. So, I no longer read his posts and just bypass it.

    2. Nah, it's GOOD for Hater Unknown to be here.

      I don't like to bash people, but Hater Unknown has made himself into a punching bag for racial issues with his anti Asian stances.

      As long as Hater Unknown can take the heat, I'm all for him being here.

    3. JLin must be simply THAT threatening that he merits Unknown's constant efforts at downplaying his accomplishments.

  11. Some lighthearted stuff:

    The Simpsons [24th season opener]

    1. [Forgot the date]
      The Simpsons [24th season opener]
      30 Sep 2012

  12. NBA 2K13 GAMEPLAY Rockets vs Nuggets

    00:55 JLin pre-game ritual

  13. C-Rayz Walz track on JLin

  14. JLin at New Life Fellowship Church, Houston

    1. [Forgot the date]
      New Life Fellowship Church, Houston
      28 Sep 2012

  15. JLin at Lecrae's concert at The Ballroom at Warehouse

    1. [Forgot the date]
      Lecrae's concert at The Ballroom at Warehouse
      28 Sep 2012

  16. JLin by Jerry Ma [Alt.Comics exhibition]

    Jerry Ma

    1. [Forgot the date]
      27 Sep - 24 Feb 2013

  17. GQ: The XVIII Worst Decisions in Sports History

    XVIII. The Knicks let Jeremy Lin walk

  18. [JLin, Face of the Franchise]

    Rox newspaper ad

    Comment: "They seriously put Jeremy Lin all big and the others small. Smh. Y'all wrong for that. But love Lin."

  19. All Rox individual tickets on sale tomorrow - 10am on

  20. It's media day. [1 Oct]
    JLin on people's minds in NY.

    [Steve] Popper on Knicks: Linsanity hangover begins

    Howard Beck ‏@HowardBeckNYT
    Very curious to see what Grunwald and Woodson say about Jeremy Lin. First time they'll talk since letting him leave 3 months ago.
    7:54 AM - 1 Oct 12

    Ian Begley ‏@IanBegley
    Mike Woodson says he's not going to discuss Jeremy Lin. #Knicks
    8:32 AM - 1 Oct 12

    netw3rk ‏@netw3rk
    "Coach, can I ask you about the Jeremy Lin thing?" "No." *Woody throws smoke grenade* *disappears*
    11:33 AM - 1 Oct 12

    Michael O'Brien ‏@thenotoriousmob
    The 1st rule of Media Day is you do not table about Jeremy Lin. The 2nd rule of media day is you do not talk about Jeremy Lin.
    11:38 AM - 1 Oct 12

    1. Zach Lowe ‏@ZachLowe_NBA
      still reading that matching hou on lin would have subject knicks to repeater tax penalties in year 3. not true, as I read cba.
      6:22 AM - 1 Oct 12

  21. SportsTalk 790 doing some interviews of Rox players:


    Media Day goodies- @SportsTalk790 live broadcast at @CSNHouston studios & pressers w/ @dmorey @JLin7 @ChandlerParsons KevMart & Coach McHale

    starting at 11AM. so in a few minutes.

    1. Some pics

      lol, Bromance

    2. Just had McHale on. seems like the conditioning is not all that great w/ a lot of the players.

      He said again that jlin is not 100%. that jlin said he hasn't worked so hard b4. and that he felt something and needed to be careful.

      said all 5 position are open for whoever steps up.

    3. @JW,

      Link please..I'm a bit disturbed by what he's saying about Jlin...I thought he was training 6-8 hours a day.

    4. Unfortunately, it's a live radio broadcast from the link above. Not sure if they gonna have clips of them posted or not.

      jlin also came on already as well. short interview, but jlin said he was sore all over with the training

      don't quite remember the detail, but jlin said he is in constant communication with staff during the training to make sure he doesn't over do it in the workout when asked if he can go full force and stuff.

    5. on the 6-8 hrs a day training jlin did, i think jlin probably trains a lot on his specific skills, but not on endurance.

      from mchale's talk, he said there are a lot of rules about what kind of trainings are allow before tomorrow's real training camp. they can't do 5on5. they mainly do 3on3. conditioning is ok.

      he said on the game they played after the workout not sanctioned by the team, he noticed that they were really tire. so they really tried hard to concentrate on the conditioning.


      Chandler's interview is there. maybe they will have more later.

      Somebody from clutchfan has more quote from the above interviews. Just click on the individual Show Spoiler.
      Radio Interview Quotes

    7. I think it's GREAT that Mchale wants Jeremy Lin to be better conditioned.

      Jeremy Lin has worked extremely hard this summer to get in shape. However, there is no substitute for getting the kind of conditioning that comes from playing in actual NBA games. Lin and the Rockets will get that conditioning soon enough.

      Last year, Jeremy Lin was a waiver wire pickup. This year he's a starter. The expectation of conditioning is much different for a waiver player than it is for a rotation starter. So I'm not surprised to see McHale demanding more out of Lin this year.

      Keep in mind that McHale is a Hall of Fame championship power forward who brings his championship expectations with him. His expectations of quality are likely much higher than what Lin has seen in his career so far. It's on Lin to rise to McHale's challenge.

      Remember that even in today's NBA, most teams don't hit their peak stride until after a few regular season games are played. It takes the entire training camp and the preason and a few games for teams to really begin to play at their best. That's why at the beginning of the season, certain teams rush out to great starts but then "come down to Earth" once the rest of the league gets fully in shape.

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  23. Since I'm extremely SLOW, I finally got around to watching the Chris Rock documentary on Micheal "Sugar" Ray Richardson (who I consider the 1980s Jeremy Lin).

    The thing that really struck me is how eerily similar Sugar and Lin's career arcs have been. Here are those similarities

    1) Both players were recruited only by one college coming out of high school.

    2) Both players played for top college coaches, Sugar for Jud Heathcoate (Magic Johnson's college coach) and Tommy Amaker (ex Duke star)

    3) Both players started out and flamed out with the Knicks and Warriors as their two pro teams.

    4) Both players clashed with their 1st and 2nd year coaches. Sugar clashed with Red Holzman and Hubie Brown, Lin clashed with Keith Smart and Mike Woodson.

    5) Both players were absolutely mobbed by fans, especially in the NY nightlife. Of course, they handled it differently.

    6) Both players did their stints in the minor leagues and overseas. Sugar played in Europe where he was a huge star and ended up becoming a greater coach in the American minor leagues than he was a player. Lin played in the D-league (here he was one of the greatest players ever to waste time being sent to that league) and in China (where he dominated the way he did in the D-league).

    7) Both players were league leading statistical marvels. Sugar led the NBA in assists and steals in the same season, Lin has been atop all sorts of statistical categories since setting foot in the NBA as a no-playing Golden State rookie.

    8) Both players found NBA redemption with new teams. Sugar found NBA redemption with New Jersey, where coaches Larry Brown and especially Stan Albeck embraced him. Lin found it with Houston in the form of that $25 million contract, though he hasn't played a minute of NBA basketball with Houston this season yet.

    9) Both players are the same size and weight. Plus they're pretty much equal athletically. Both players terrorized opponents defensively and wreaked havoc on both ends of the court. Both players have that same right handed reverse layup on the left side!

    10) Both players were locker room leaders but were distrusted by teammates. Sugar's teammates adored his game but distrusted his drug use, Lin's teammates also adored his game but distrusted him for various reasons.

    1. Whatever Happened to Micheal Ray?

    2. JLin "terrorized opponents defensively"? I have to disagree here. More than anything, JLin needs to improve his defense. JLin's defense is not as bad as some people say, but definitely have to improve. Yes, I realize JLin picks one or two balls and gets steals every game.

    3. What, Jeremy Lin being among the leaders at his position in steals and blocks is not good enough for you?

      Jeremy Lin vastly improving the Knicks' numbers on defense isn't good enough for you either?

    4. KHuang -

      I agree with you about Lin's defense being very good (although I take your term "terrorize defensively" is in relation only to PG positions and at his sophomore level - of course we all know that Lin is not a Center). Lin was *excellent* on defense FOR what one would expect of him at his inexperienced level and at PG position. He was also *excellent* at defense compared to ALL 30 PGs in the league last season. Compare to top 5 PGs in the league, Lin was *very good* defensively. That is with his bit higher than average TO factored in.

      He needs to lower his TO, which he certainly will as time goes.... The funny thing is, most of the games in which Lin had very high TOs WERE WINNERS! That is why MD wasn't overly concerned: The fact that they were Lin's first NBA games as a starter - and the fact that those games were winners (although some were close, phew!). Had MD continued as the coach and JLin continued his high TO rate, MD rightfully wouldn't have tolerated.

      The REASON why I consider Lin very good defensively, is I don't take the words of pundits and haters at face value - and I don't go by just a few games (otherwise I'll be panicking for Lin, Rondo or anyone else I like); instead I check Lin's stats and compare them to top 5 PGs in the league (I did the same thing during game days last season). And Lin compared favorably with them. It's shocking how many people think that Lin is a "defensive liabilty". Even last year, Lin was overall NOT a "defensive liability". He did have higher TO, but he was NOT a "turnover machine" - just a bit higher than average as a PG. And, Lin's Block, Stolen and Rebounds were all HIGHER than average for top 10 PGs in the league. Of course Lin will be improving a lot in all areas of the game.

  24. Jeremy Lin's China stint is different than Michael Ray Richardson's. Michael actually played in some of those European league teams, such as Virtus which is in the Italian league.

    Jeremy played for Dongguan in the ABA Club Championship games that also featured other teams from Asia, but it wasn't the CBA and didn't feature many of the teams and players that regularly play in CBA since it was already the off-season. So it wasn't the full experience of actually playing in a Chinese league.

    Jeremy wasn't allowed to actually play in the CBA because he wasn't a free agent at the time like Aaron Brooks and J.R. Smith were.

    1. Honestly, from what I have seen I think Michael Ray was taller, better passer and more active with his hands on defense. He really could have been one of NBA stars. Other than that, they do seem similar. But as they say, talent alone is not enough; that's where Magic excelled.

    2. Micheal Ray was listed at 6'5", Jeremy Lin is listed at 6'3" without shoes. Put shoes on the 6'3 and a half Lin and a 6'5" listing is entirely accurate, especially since NBA players other than Lin typically add 2-3 inches to their real height (like Michael Jordan actually being 6'4" according to the 1992 Olympics measurements).

      Given the way they both get up in the air, they play at the same height. For example, I couldn't believe my eyes when Jeremy Lin outjumped both Shawn Marion and John Wall in jump ball situations.

      Jeremy Lin averages roughly 2 steals a game. In his rookie year, Lin was #2 among all NBA guards in blocks and steals per minute. OK, Lin isn't an outright league leader like Micheal Ray was, but certainly Lin had played defense extremely well in the modern era despite his tanking teammates.

      I also wouldn't necessarily say that Micheal Ray was a better passer. Lin dramatically improved the games of guys like Steve Novak (3.3 ppg to 12.3 after Lin) and routinely had games of over 8 assists.

      In sheer on court winning impact, it doesn't appear to me that Lin had less of an effect on winning than Micheal Ray did.

  25. "clutchfans Lin said he genuinely likes the talent level of this team. Mentioned Asik, Motiejunas as two that have really impressed him."

    Include Parsons, Delfino (Latin I know), and you can see the Rockets got a bunch of Caucasian players to make Lin feel like it's his old Paly/Harvard teams again. I think Lin can play with anyone but he's use to those types of players with limited athleticism/offensive skills who tend to spot up and make "team" plays and offer less overt selishness and ego due to their athletic limitations who swing the ball and defer to him to make plays or take the big shot. And in turn, Lin helps those guys score by setting them up and they nail shots to make Lin look good in turn. Those players are not also always white (Bill Walker, Jefferson, Shumpert all bought in to Lin and played in that style), but they tend to be more often than not. It's really more a skillset type that Lin plays well with.

    Add in a sprinkling of White, PPatt, Kmart, Lamb, Jones, Morris, etc. to round out the starting 5 and produce off the bench and there you go. Paly 2.0 in the NBA, here Lin comes.

    As an aside, I just saw Jones highlights, he reminds me of a less lanky beefier Lamar Odom with a bit less handle but a bit more physicality. I can see Lin playing with this guy too perhaps more so than with White down the line. It'll be interesting to see. This Rockets rookie class is no joke. 2 or 3 of these 5 guys are going to really impact the NBA at some point in their careers. If all 5 (or at least 4 if you minus Machado) that would be amazing...

  26. Pasons, from what I have seen, is not one of "those types of players with limited athleticism/offensive skills". Rockets have no superstar but they have pretty good offensive players. It's the defense that I am worried about, because the last time I looked, you have to hold your opponent to less points than you scored to win.

    1. Totally agreed.

      I myself am more concerned about the offense than the defense, since I don't know if any of the Rockets' big men can score in the paint.

    2. Should be good there depending on injuries. Asik's per minute defense is near top of league at the most importnat defensive position on court, and per minute productivity scales well in the NBA.

      And, Lin, of course, is a league leader in standard per minute defensive stats, was a net difference maker in adjusted defensive rating (and this is on a top 5 rated defense, so that's saying something), and has tons and tons else recommending him as a defensive player. He had the number one defensive rating in D-league the year before, tested as an elite athlete at the NBA combine, and had above average Synergy defense stats. He isn't a flashy ball stopper (except at the ends of games, if you've watched his games) but he is extremely good at fitting in with or orchestrating a solid team defense.

    3. The Rockets will go with a younger lineup with no significant low post players. So I expect to see a fast paced run and gun offense. Such high octane offenses usually give up a lot of points on the defensive end.
      But we won't know for sure until we see a full regular season game. One thing they need is the intangibles .... Going after loose balls and setting good picks to get Jeremy free. One of the most overlooked factors during Linsanity was the play of Tyson Chandler. The Toronto Raptors killing 3-pointer wouldn't have occurred without Tyson tipping the ball out to Lin off an Iman Shumpert miss. The win in Minnesota wouldn't have happened without the knock down solid pick set by Tyson on Rubio.
      It's these intangibles that I expect from Omer Asik, Chandler Parsons, Jeremy Lamb or whoever.

  27. JLin - media day

  28. More pics



  29. Jonathan Feigen ‏@Jonathan_Feigen
    Carlos Delfino will arrive late with visa issues, miss first day or two of Rockets camp, source said.
    8:49 AM - 1 Oct 12

  30. Pretty good interview with Lin on SportsTalk 790 Radio:

  31. NYT: Back in Houston, Lin Already Feels at Home

  32. Youth Is Served
    Musings and quotes of note from the Rockets' 2012 media day extravaganza


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