Jeremy will be giving his testimony today (Sunday in Hong Kong) at the AsiaWorld Expo. The event, which is sold out, is expected to draw over 11,000 attendees:
I don't expect them to win a championship this season or next. That depends a lot on his teammates and every other NBA team not winning. Winning doesn't matter as much to me. I want to see Jeremy Lin start for a team and be the exciting player that he is. Watching him play makes me feel proud enough.
I will drop everyhing on hands, change my appointments just to watch him play. He makes the entire game more exciting and full of anticipation whenever he staeps into court. It doesn't matter if Rockets not able to win a championship his or next season but he process is more important and I hope Jeremy Lin can shine in his new team. Let the bygone be bygone and just like what he said, opening another new chapter as a NBA player and it will definately be a another new challange for him going into with a scrapped a rebuilding team like Rockets.
Melo brushes off Oakley criticism http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/23809/melo-brushes-off-oakley-criticism
ON JEREMY LIN: Anthony was asked by a reporter if former PG Jeremy Lin had anything to be "scared of" when the Knicks face Houston, Lin's new team, this season. (The Rockets first come to the Garden on Dec. 17).
"No, not at all. I don't play against him," Anthony said. "I don't guard him so he doesn't have nothing to be scared of."
Oakley: Anthony, Stoudemire don’t make Knicks teammates better
I don't want to be the villain again but what does Oakley's opinion on Stat and Melo have to do with Jeremy Lin and the Rockets? Do you really want to jump to the bandwagon of any critic of the Knicks and their players? Its almost September and some people have not move from the Knicks? Shouldn't we be happy for Jeremy since he's out of that toxic franchise? I'm just curious on your hate towards the knicks.
Not directly related, but you can easily see how they tie-in. C'mon... :)
Oakley's Feb & August comments were basically on Melo & his ability [or inability] to make his team mates better. I wish D'Antoni was as pro-active as Oakley advised him that he should. But knowing how avoidant the guy is, he probably just made a joke & said "Oh, we'll figure it out" or something.
Oakley's actually anti-Lin. I remember that he said on espn before Lin's an average player and didn't deserve his contract and the Knicks made the right choice not matching. In fact, he seems to dislike anyone Knicks related not just Melo.
'Cause if it were me talking, it would sound like THIS:
"Gwae myah shih Jeremy Lin. Wa pa kyu di NBA. Dage beekog lang shyoh wa ng, wa eetyeng hamman. Hukatsai hyaeh Knickshag wa chi qua mai. Quee beekog ki shao! Lang cong heh she Linsanity! Knicks ca wa keehoo a ga wag tatsukee. Chimma wah ham Houston Rockets. Wah tan TWAHSEH GJNEE a chok hwahhee!!!"
Your command of Taiwanese is flawless! I am amazed that you figured out my crazy writing!
The only thing I had different from you is the last line. "I earn big time money and am totally happy". Maybe you could write something out.
If you are the same Hans I knew, you are a big time baller despite your short height. I never saw anybody stop you, and probably STILL nobody can stop you. Your game reminds me of Damon "Mighty Mouse" Stoudamire in that you shot set shot three pointers literally by hoisting your entire body behind the shot. Unorthodox, but the shot went IN!
Years ago, this Hans kid and I were at a summer nerd study camp for which I was completely unsuitable because of my poor academics.
Hans and I were a tiny backcourt, but we ROASTED people. There were some incredible Asian ballets there.
Hans tried to teach me how to shoot his side set shot. Unfortunately, my body couldn't do the move. Even though I am just as small as Hans, I actually became a bruising "Baby Barkley" type who enjoyed knocking bigger guys around and could score inside against players over a foot taller!
We'd roast people now even more, Hans. Gimme the ball on the block even if some tall heavy athletic guy is laughing at me. I'll ground and pound him on both ends while you fire away from outside! But we'd be no match for Jeremy Lin and his brothers, even if I were flagrant fouling Lin as he dunked the ball with me hanging onto his ankle!!
there's NO WAY I could have decipher "TWAHSEH GJNEE" as big money... I would had spelled "dua" for big. Interesting speech, and even crazier spelling for sure.
Also, I balled in Long Island decades ago as the lone Asian baller in the park...not the same Hans you paired up with.
Hans, I am from there too but indeed never ran I to you. You're still DA MAN!
You are right on "tsam shang". "Yeungoo" is "English". My last sentence was "You guys please first change my words to English". The Taiwanese put together the words for HAPPY LAZY (Yeung) and language or tongue (goo) to make up a word for "English"!
I also could have wrote "Twahtzeh Chjee" for "big time money". If I wanted to write "children", I would have written "Geenah".
I have seriously contemplated writing a manual that teaches Taiwanese. I have not done so because there are many people that speak it better than I do. Being from Tainan, I speak the so called "Prestige" Taiwanese that allows virtually any Taiwanese speaker to understand me but makes it hard for me to understand other Taiwanese speakers who have heavy Mandarin accents and insert pidgin Mandarin phrases into their speech.
very much welcome! It was both puzzling and fun, though didn't get them all this time.
@KHuang
Lesson taken. My parents are from south and central Taiwan, and supposedly I was babysit by a Hakka family... I have heard of "goo" for language but I've always thought it's the accent of the north. If I remember it correctly my family would pronounce "ghee" for the same word. Oh well, accents huh.
Accents in Taiwanese are completely all over the place.
In my own family, we don't have a unified way of saying our surname! Everybody pronounces it differently, depending on their mood. Thus I am completely forgiving of nonTaiwanese who are afraid of mispronouncing my name!
For example, most of the Taiwanese I know here in the West coast say "Taigee" when they are speaking of the Taiwanese language. Yet everybody around me from Tainan in NY said "Taiwan weh" or "Taiwan word". As I have broadened my exposure, my Taiwanese has become more flexible the way a true native Taiwanese's would be.
In Taiwanese, people literally make up words as they go along. I can see how via wong's "eng bun oue" could literally translate to "yellow rice word". A Taiwanese like myself would interpret that as being "the land of Gold's language" (America was considered royally rich by Taiwanese elders that I knew) or simply because "yellow" (ng) sounds like the first syllable of the word "English" and they added "rice word" to denote America as the land of plenty.
If one goes back, there are direct Spanish/Portuguese and Dutch words that have found their way into Taiwanese. The word for "car" is "chaa" ("coche" in Spanish, abbreviated in Taiwanese). The word for "stare down" in Taiwanese is "geh", "guh" in Dutch!
I do the Wing Chun Kung fu style, among others. NonTaiwanese speakers have flamed me and even challenged me to fistfights (which they never follow through on) over my easy translation of Wing Chun kung fu terms like "huen tsao" (smoke away, like making the gestures of smoking a Marlboro) or chum kiu (spear hand, with kiu being a Cantonese way of saying "choo" or "hand" in Taiwanese" or bong tsao (carry away, using the motions of picking up a big beer keg) or even the true name of the Wing Chun style, "Wing Chun He Koon" (Crane Kung Fu from Yong Chun Village in southern China!)
Here's a classic Taiwanese put down that people STILL use at me today because they think I am a good for nothing slacker who stinks at academics:
"Cha Pa Shyo Yeung!"
This phrase was hurled at me angrily when I was growing up, far more than "Wa tyah li" or "I love (hurt) you". Notice how the double meaning of "tyah" as both love and pain kind of sums up the whole experience, as reflects the Taiwanese openmindedly practicality!
"Tuh Shah", which means "Thank you" or "Knife Etched" (double Taiwanese meaning again!!!)
With all the violent references and even violent sound of spoken Taiwanese, it's no wonder that nonTaiwanese speakers (many of whom are Asian) say that I speak KLINGON!!!
Taiwanese lawmaking sessions are more physically violent than Klingon space invasions. That's not opinion, that's a FACT.
"I always found it to be a little "rough" listening."
- Kinda like Cantonese, there's that k sound. :)
@ KHuang
Your surname is Ng, right?
When I think of "Tuh Shah" I think 多謝. "Knife Etched" never occurred to me, but now I can see how that could be. After all, our every utterance will naturally bring to mind a whole spectrum of connotations & permutations. If we take an active role in the process, it'll be like jazz.
You should write the manual. Or write the stuff on a blog.
I consider myself very fluent in Taiwanese (born in kaohsiung or, guh hyon) but I've never seen anyone explain the language like you do. pretty crazy. Did you take a course growing up or something? My mom tried teaching me beh-we-ghee (white spoken word) which was developed I believe by foreign missionaries in order to help translate the bible - in fact my grandma could read it like reading a novel but could hardly read mandarin. My Taiwanese is pure conversational - i know all the phrases even the obscure ones and can talk to any southern cab driver like a "lo mua" without a hint of english accent but can't explain it or much less teach it.
@Hans and @KHuang - you guys grew up in long island? were you involved with any taiwanese churches at all?
I also used to attend TAF in Grand Rapids, Michigan every summer but that decades ago in high school... good times. haha
I have had zero formal education in Taiwanese. I hardly grew up with anybody Taiwanese either. Still, my mother and father and grandmother are all Taiwanese even though shockingly my mother and father talked to me in ENGLISH and to each other in very poor Mandarin! Thus my true sole source of Taiwanese was my grandmother. Alll fights were conducted in Taiwanese, of course.
I love that "lo mua" term. It literally translates to "braised eel" with the slippery gooey consistency being a derogatory put down that denotes shysterism.
I seem to have an inborn gift for languages and music. According to my Japanese friends, I have a perfect Japanese accent when saying Japanese words. I also suspect that I have a good Russian accent and would likely be an excellent Spanish speaker if I chose to be one. Nobody else in my family on either side has this kind of gift, though we have some incredibly smart people in multiple fields on both sides of the family (a typical Taiwanese family trait is true genius!)
Speaking of jazz, via wong, learning Taiwanese DEFINITELY made it easy for me. I play jazz guitar and can improvise unaccompanied chord melody with solid rhythm and feel. When I'm playing professionally in gigs, I will spin out a tune as long as I want. I swear, the cadence and the phrasing and mentality are IDENTICAL to Taiwanese for me!
Recently, I tried to fill the few gaps I have in my Taiwanese by shopping for some sort of CD ROM that would teach me the language. Maybe I'm dumb, but I couldn't find one. At least I did find out that I speak pure "Prestige Taiwanese", and that's why I had no trouble communicating in Taiwan when I visited as a kid. My family is from Tainan, and that's the local dialect that I know.
On one of the Taiwanese language websites, I recall them putting up a translational challenge. The phrase was "An automobile filled with eels". I immediately said out loud "Ji le chaa oo chok tse mua". Word for word, that is "A single car has many eels".
Because Jeremy Lin is by himself with no other huge basketball star in the Houston Rockets, it is likely that he is not able to meet the public's standards of a "star player." However, fans like myself know that he has potential to rise as a super star and are proud as long as he does his best to play his part. As the only star player in his team, I don't understand why his salary is only around the thousands whereas the Dodgers spend hundreds of millions for their players. An NBA reporter had stated that Jeremy Lin's salary was actually too high, causing numerous people to question the organization's way of determining a player's salary. Some believe that probable reasons as to why Jeremy Lin's salary is unjust include that he is Asian. It is likely that they are not afraid to push him around and treat him unfairly. Although this isn't for sure, Jeremy Lin is a great player that deserves much more than unjust treatment. He is one of the greatest examples of a basketball star for he has given several children the opportunity to learn from him and has even created a foundation of his own. That is why I strongly believe Jeremy Lin should be voted for the NBA Superstar of 2013, so please support him too!
Because Jeremy Lin is by himself with no other huge basketball star in the Houston Rockets, it is likely that he is not able to meet the public's standards of a "star player." However, fans like myself know that he has potential to rise as a super star and are proud as long as he does his best to play his part. As the only star player in his team, I don't understand why his salary is only around the thousands whereas the Dodgers spend hundreds of millions for their players. An NBA reporter had stated that Jeremy Lin's salary was actually too high, causing numerous people to question the organization's way of determining a player's salary. Some believe that probable reasons as to why Jeremy Lin's salary is unjust include that he is Asian. It is likely that they are not afraid to push him around and treat him unfairly. Although this isn't for sure, Jeremy Lin is a great player that deserves much more than unjust treatment. He is one of the greatest examples of a basketball star for he has given several children the opportunity to learn from him and has even created a foundation of his own. That is why I strongly believe Jeremy Lin should be voted for the NBA Superstar of 2013, so please support him too!
Craig Carton Rips Michael Kay for claiming an exclusive story for ESPN about Jeremy Lin [Did Melo asked D'Antoni to play him?] http://omg-celebrity-gossip.com/craig-carton-rips-michael-kay/
- Lin corroborated the story about Melo asking D'Antoni to play him [untrue]. He probably was trying to make peace & ease the rumors of jealousy as Melo ease back into the line-up during Linsanity.
Knicks leaked story that Carmelo Anthony told Mike D’Antoni to play Jeremy Lin http://larrybrownsports.com/basketball/knicks-leaked-story-that-carmelo-anthony-told-mike-dantoni-to-play-jeremy-lin/118457
Michael Kay deserves to be ripped, along with his fat sidekick, for wasting their listeners' time by commenting on basketball, a sport neither one of them know jack about.
Japan Times: NBA star Lin greeted like hero in Hong Kong http://www.japantimes.co.jp/text/sk20120826a1.html
[There's been write-ups about JLin's HK trip in French papers, & the Netherlands as well. He is truly an international celebrity. It helps that HK is an int'l city too.] :)
I wish Lin will travel to some Europe cities or actually any other cities other than China and Taiwan next summer where he gets less attention and can truly explore those cities and relax with his family while still promoting basketball/ doing charity work/ fullfilling his endorsement obligation. His current month long Asian trip must be too exhausting physically and mentally. I doubt it though. Those fans in China and Taiwan will kill him if he doesn't visit there. Lol.
If Jeremy continues his amazing streak like last season for the Rockets, rest assured he'll experience fans mobbing him in certain European cities next year.
Jeremy's story doesn't just inspire Asians on the other sides of the Pacific Ocean, people living on other sides of the Atlantic Ocean are equally inspired!
I am hearing fans spreading around that continent chanting " Jeremy, we love you! "; " Welcome to Europe! "
I don't doubt that Lin has fans everywhere in the world but you can't really say that they and the media there would be more crazy than those in Taiwan, HK and China. People in Taiwan, HK and China tracked his every single move that even I felt exhausted just by reading. They went as far as wanting to know what he eat every day and followed him to the restaurant! Also, I suspect that his Asian tour next summer not only can't be shortened but needs to expand or those fans in those cities he visited this time round or the cities he hasn't gone yet are going to complain that he snubs them. And you know how many cities there are in China! Also, this time it's just the Volvo and Nike promotion. If he gets a few more endorsements in the coming season, I suspect even a 2 month touring isn't long enough. Lol.
And although I read the news he still maintains his training routine but I would think that it's not the same as training in the places he's familiar with like in his home. Also, so much traveling and constantly being mobbed not only in promotion event but in every minute besides in hotel room are tiring to anyone even without those training. I don't know anyone but I usually felt super exhausted after going on a few days trip and I am just a normal person going out for sightseeing. It's almost as exhausting as going to work and usually took several days to recover. I couldn't imagine a month long away from home with that kind of attention. It's not a relaxing vacation for Lin that's for sure.
To the above poster who said what if Lin continues his amazing streak. If he continues, he will only get even more popular in China and Taiwan and then cannot not visit and spend more time there! His fans and endorsers won't let him go anywhere else! Lol!
Every coach of basketball should want to have a point guard like Lin.
Unselfish and team oriented, Lin tries to play the game the way it should be played.
If Lin has a good season like we all expect him to, he will be mobbed in foreign countries other than Asia for his pure basketball skills. I would enjoy seeing that.
The international tour of Jeremy is indeed very tiring for him. I wonder if he can really focus on his basketball training. He might be too exhausted come training camp. I hope next off-season he'll minimize his trips maybe to about 2 weeks instead of 1 month. But then again, he's too selfless to disregard his fans.
There's nearly 100 local reporters covering JLin's HK trip. The last time HK saw such a big media throng on a visiting sports figure was Jordan's 2004 HK trip. [I guess neither Kobe, nor Lebron whipped up the type of media frenzy JLin did.]
I agree with KHuang that Lin needs to learn to embrace his fame more. He doesn't need to act like an attention seeker but nor he needs to act like a shy little boy. He should understand that his performance and bball ability are the roots for Linsanity. The better he plays, only the more attention he will get on and off the court. Does he want to go back to being an end of the bench guy with few people caring about him? I am sure not! Get used to being famous and don't need to tell or act like you don't like it because we believe in your bball ability and believe this is your life until you retire!
He needs to travel with some entourage, not his parents all the time. He's a big boy and need to stop acting like a mama's boy. maybe it's just me but i felt like his parents have to much control of his life and decisions.
Or better yet, he needs to travel with his teammates, trainers and coaches to practice more basketball and get this never-ending tour over with. I want to see some training camp videos in October. I can't wait for the season to start. I want to see some games already.
Lin is a good Asian man who owes a great deal of his success to his parents.
I say ROCK ON with them following him around. Their kind of protectiveness is exactly what Lin needs.
Lin has the right to go anywhere he wants and train anywhere he wants. He knows what he is doing and so does his family.
Other NBA players should be so fortunate to have a family like Lin's. Too many times, a NBA player's family will completely drain him dry of assets and leave the player bankrupt before his playing days are over!
Lately I have been wondering who else the houston rockets are going to sign. even though they got jeremy lin, I think they should really try to continue adding more talent and at the same time build around him if they want to be successful this year. If you look at how lebron james went to miami to team up with dwayne wade and chris bosh, the end result was a championship. In order to win nowadays, super teams The lakers have just added dwight howard to their team. They are easily listed as one of the favorites to win the championship. I think houston has a lot more work to do in order to compete in the west. Sure we may have gotten better now that we have jeremy lin but it wouldnt hurt to add more talent into this houston rocket team! are being formed which means that houston should do the same.
Seriously, Darko isn't picked up by anyone yet? I would think a team like Miami will sure pick him up. There is really no downside getting him at minimum. He might even start for Miami and Lebron can make him look good. Maybe he has offers in Europe bigger than in nba?
I say let Jeremy Lin embrace him on the Rockets. Darko would be literally be Lin's biggest supporter if Lin passed him the ball the way no point guard in the NBA ever has.
Darko is the meanest and nastiest player in the entire NBA. He will fight at the drop of a hat, and he's absolutely terrifying. No guy in his right mind would waltz over the lane to headhunt Lin without Darko coming over for retaliation.
I'm telling you guys (and especially Daryl Morey), Darko's GOT GAME. Just please give a chance for Jeremy Lin to FREE DARKO!!!
No to Darko he had his chance to play. (unlike lin) He got beat out in Minnesota fair and square. This is is young team. Plus this team has 87 powerforwards so some of them can play center
He had Luke Ridnour (a shoot first backup pg) and Jonny Flynn (an already shot dead pg) pretending to pass him the ball. He got run off the team by Rick Adelman and never received passes from Ricky Rubio.
None of Houston's players other than Asik have Darko's size and agility. Plus, Darko is a good passing center who was expected to create shots for others. Let Lin create shots for him.
I'd like to see Lin improve Darko's game like he did for Novak and Chandler and Smith and even Anthony despite his seemingly reduced output.
There is a report that Darko has officially signed with Real Madrid. Don't know the amount of money but I think they probably give more than nba minimum.
I think Jeremy is spending too much time touring Taiwan. It's a tiny population compared to China. And there are way more poor and under priveleged children in Mainland China who don't have access to basketball courts or even schools.
Plus there's much more more marketing potential in China than in Taiwan, if he spends too much time on the island, the people on the mainland might denounce him as not being one of their own.
Lin's situation is very tricky. While the marketing potential in China is greater than in Taiwan, his support appears to be greater in Taiwan than in China (by % of course, not by sheer volumn). Also whether he admits it or not, his root is actually closer to Taiwan than to mainland China since both of his parents were born there and his family still have some direct relatives in Taiwan like grandmother, uncle etc there while his relationship is a little bit far away. Also, you might not understand, most Taiwanese people dislike China than Chinese people dislike Taiwan because China considers Taiwan "part of their own" but Taiwan doesn't think so. So it would actually cause a bigger uproar if Lin spends all his time in China and less in Taiwan than the other way around. That's why he needs to balance them out and spends almost equal time in the 2 areas. Lol. I wouldn't be in his shoes in dealing with those Taiwan/China issues that's for sure.
It might be hard to curb his time in Taiwan, he is The Pride of Taiwan to his fans & there will be a huge backlash, esp if he does this in favor of China.
On the Chinese side, there's already some awkwardness [his paternal uncle might have said some pro-Taiwan stuffs that had antagonized some Chinese, it might be why his reception in Beijing was so muted.]
Mama Lin had tried to limit people from repeatedly bringing up whether JLin would play for China. [Back in Feb, at the height of Linsanity, Xinhua called on JLin to denounce his US citizenship, 'come home' & play for China]
Indeed there were some grumblings about him not being 'one of them, but an American' & how Marbury loves China more, stuff like that. But JLin seemed to have dispelled the negativity on this trip, being the super charismatic & diplomatic guy that he is. :)
He needs to tell his family to shut up. There is money to be made in china. So this pro-Taiwan stuff needs to stop. Hell even the Taiwanese companies have huge ties to the mainland. Lin and Co should think the same way.
He should go to his family's town in china and hold a basketball camp there. Bring the media to show your family in china. This would be good PR.
Lin-tense war of words between Taiwan, China http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/248643/sports/basketball/lin-tense-war-of-words-between-taiwan-china
His maternal grandma has actually been giving money to a local high-school in her ancestral home in China, so that's great publicity. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/15/sports/basketball/in-china-knicks-lin-emerges-as-a-star-and-a-symbol.html?_r=1
I guess Volvo wanted him to hit the big cities at this point.
But he's spending more time in Taiwan than he does in mainland China. He shouldn't focus on any one country, he should reach out to other countries as well, he is an international star.
The last thing he wants to become is a political propaganda tool, the way that Cuba used Elian Gonzalez as propaganda against the U.S. He is not the "Pride of Taiwan", he is not a product of Taiwan, he does not vote for or support Taiwan policies.
Ideally, it'll be nice if he can branch out internationally. Not only is time & energy limited, but his endorsement responsibilities are eating up a large chunk of his itinerary.
As for being the Pride of Taiwan, they are very possessive of him. Just now at the airport, the fans & the media are wondering why he spent time with Shanghainese & Hong Kong media & fans at their respective airports but not them [Taiwanese.] :)
There were hurt feelings, I don't know if they can see that, haha. During the Times gala, JLin failed to speak with a bunch of Taiwanese reporters & was branded a snob.
China is slowly drawing the curtains of Imperialism. No foreigners on the streets of Hong Kong; kids speak one language; 'National Expansionism' into Philippines and Japanese Islands; international monopoly on strategic minerals. China is not a good place to be right now for those who've read or lived history.
Do any of you feel a little disturbed by his parents? Jeremy is a big boy but he pretty much acting like a mama's boy. his parents have to much says in his life. i wouldn't be surprise if his mom control his finance and he only gets allowance. this is sad.
As Twu recalls, Jeremy’s mother responded with, “He plays for God,” in response to Rich’s ethnicity pitch. Shirley Lin’s voice may have been the most important of them all. As Jim Sutter puts it, “Make no mistake. The mother calls all the shots.”
http://theclassical.org/articles/project-lin
@ 777am
There's a big possibility on the allowance thing.
But then I consider how much pressure he's facing with all the expectations, & the media, everybody surging forward trying to grab a piece of him, then I'm grateful she's in charge. Like how she demanded the Chinese reporters stop asking sensitive political questions. Or how she repulsed the paparazzi in HK.
I do wish there's a stronger male presence aside from his pastor, who I'm sure is an outstanding guy, but might not give good practical advice. [Like learning how to hold one's liquor, how to fight/ fight back, etc. You know, manly stuff.]
He's dad looks hand-off except for bball, but who knows...
You are wrong. His family is his best support. I see nothing wrong that he's with his parents all the time. In fact, it's good to see that he takes care of his family.
of course family are important and he should take care of his family but this is beyond taking care. it look likes his life is control by his family. he's not a kid anymore, he's freaking 24 years old and went to Harvard. He should know how to handle his business rather than someone making decision for him. yeah typical Tiger Mom.
Jeremy's probably not even allowed to have a girlfriend, which would be kind of sad. That would be a very typical Asian parent move (my parents tried pulling this crap on me in college). They probably view it as a distraction. But you'd have to think Jeremy could manage that, but oh well. Maybe it's better that way, so he can focus totally on his game, I guess. But IMO, balance in life is important.
On a personal note, if I was him, I'd be gettin' it in, if you catch my drift. I'd be like George Clooney, dating models and everything.
Lol. I don't think it's his patents' move for Lin not dating a girlfriend yet. Even it is, who cares as long as Lin's happy? I think ultimately it's his own choice, if he wants to date a lot of models, he would date a lot of models. I just suspect it's difficult for someone like Lin who is practically an overnight sensation with his new found fame to find and trust any new friends if he wants a healthy relationship. Anyone in his situation would wisely stick to his family and old long term friends and them only. That's why people say once you become famous, you get no more new real friends.
He should be travelling with his entourage not his family. How could you relax with such a strict family. I'm sure he would want some night out and a female companion. Imagine if J-Lin is a player, he'd probably have a 99% success rate of getting it in with all those Taiwanese/HK/Chinese celebrity.
Lin should not have a relationship now. Too much time away from basketball. He needs to establish himself 1st the nba because females cost time and money.
Lol. ChuckT sounds more like a Tiger Mom than Lin's mom. Actually a healthy relationship is good for a man instead of being constantly temptated by different kind of women. A healthy relationship can also help one to mature and focus and have someone to share happiness and unhappiness. Lin should find a nice girl if he can. I just suspect that it's difficult for him to find the suitable one now with his new added awareness of "friends". Sure he can probably bang any girl if he wants but those hot whore, supermodel, celebrity or fangirl types ala Kim K are most likely not his type. Haha.
People have been interested in JLins family all along. I dont wonder that they have come on tour with him. After all - everybody is a product of the parents genes and upbringing. People want to meet "the Lins" to honor them and let them know that they have done a good job. Taiwanese engineers, moving to USA, being successful immigrants, raising good sons. This is the american dream. Its not as common as people think. Lots of immigrants fail to achieve what the Lins have achieved.
Besides that - its no secret that JLin has always had the support of his parents - especially his mom. You can read articles about coaches who talk about Mrs. Lin. How she came to games early to study the opponents numbers and so on. Mrs. Lin herself approached the opponent coach after a game and basicly bashed him "See how Jeremy played? You didnt want him!".
Besides - Jeremy is a celebrity now. Chances are - people want his best - by that I mean money. People will try to use him. So - its smart to have someone as a manager he can totally trust -> his mom and dad. Asian families stick together. Thats what makes Jeremy strong. That doesnt make him a mommas boy though.
Being 24 means you can gamble, drink, smoke, sign contracts and so on. It doesnt mean you have all the wisdom in the world.
Typical Chinese/Taiwanese family. Not only is the Tiger Mom stereotype real, but so is the Tiger Wife, Tiger Girlfriend, etc. I have never met more controlling type-A dictator women than among Chinese/Taiwan women...
Although I'm not affected in any way by your statement, I'm pretty sure its wrong to label them as dictator women. There may be some but you should be careful in your words since many will take offense to your stereotype. I cannot speak for them since I don't really know a lot about their culture but I'm pretty sure somebody here will be offended in your statement.
I had two brutally violent Tiger Moms in my family with my mother and grandmother, so I know what a Tiger Mom is more than ANYONE.
Jeremy Lin's mom is a huffy gentle domestic cat in comparison. Lin would not be as great as he is if she were hurting him. Lin NEEDS her protective support, even if it offends people that want a piece of him.
The vast majority of Asian moms aren't like my two Tiger Moms that broke yardsticks on my 6 year old back for bringing home bad grades. I don't care how big and tough you are, it HURTS when somebody breaks a yardstick over your back! And I was so inured to constant physical punishment that my Tiger Moms gave up on using yardsticks because they broke too many of them on me!
Today my many detractors correctly call me insane. I agree with them completely!!'
The Lin family has handled Lin well. They are keeping him grounded so that he doesn't get corrupted by the fame and fortune. Yet Lin gets to live his own life.
At least Mrs. Lin doesn't cut his steak for him the way Mrs. Rubio cuts Ricky's!
I hope the press and fans alike realise the chaotic condition in he airport and Jeremy was almost trip but manage to regain his composure. Some fans was questioning why the super star like Tome Cruise was more approachable and welcome the close proximity with his fans, but JLIN choose a quick exit. Let me give you an idea why: 1) Amid all the rush of the fans and press with equipment, accident might happen 2) Tom Cruise is a veteran in showbiz and JLIN breakout this Feb, so don't expect him to adapt to he limelight in a short span of time. Indeed he does understand od the lost of privacy and he has to learn to embrace it. Give him some time to do so.
Tom Cruise doesn't have to train as hard as Lin does.
In Tom Cruise's movies, he only faces double teams when going against Asian guys he knows he's gonna win against because he's the token white guy there to singlehandedly impregnate every hot Asian female who's so oppressed by native Asian men like ME!
I don't need a double team to cut Tom Cruise down with a real sword in real life, though he's definitely get more Asian chicks than I as an Asian American would!
Hi, There may be 4: EJ Costello (or someone) for regular personal training; Doc. Scheppler JL's shooting coach ("No regular number, try to cover all shots, usually about 500 per day. That include FT's.");Wagner (or someone)from Sparta Performance (building up specific leg strength to relieve joints) Kenny Atkinson (or someone) working on sets in the lane.
Thanks, blue7053. I should be more specific: I was referring to the person in this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS2QiySGvKI, which was provided by via wong earlier today), he was walking next to Lin (and sometimes used ipad to block flashing light). During Feb.'s NYK-Lakers game, he sat next to mama Lin.
This is a very touching segment. Nothing new "news" but make Lin look a lot personable. The most interesting aspect of the whole thing is that Lin probably talked about God multiple times in this interview but they managed to edit them all out. Even when in the end the host read a verse from Bible, but instead of saying it's from Bible, she said it's Lin's motto. Lol. Well done. Only time didn't even hear Lin say a single word like God, Christ or Bible in a Lin interview!!
I don't think Lin's that humble as he always seems to present himself. He wants to play the game the right way but he is not free of ego. Actually all pro players need a certain degree of ego to achieve where they are. Ego is good in pro sports. Jordan probably had the biggest ego of all time and that's what took him to the best as well.
Lin has the cockiest swagger I've ever seen in an NBA player.
His interviewing is "aw shucks I don't speak great", but on the court he is out to Limbarrass people.
Another reason I compare Lin to Micheal Ray Richardson is how Richardson would strut onto the court and start bullying opponents. Once when the Richardson's Nets came into MSG to play Patrick Ewing's Knicks, Buck Williams dunked on Ewing. Then Richardson dunked on Ewing. Richardson grabbed Ewing's arm so that Ewing couldn't get away and screamed at him "We kicking' yo ass!!!"
Lin is just as punky as Richardson. Whether it's the Utah fortune cookie green tongue or the scream after dunking in John Wall or violently swatting Derrick Rose's shot or bouncing up to challenge George Hill after a hit, Lin is Richardson all over again without the curse words and stutter!
The lady's name is Chai Jin and one of the much renown talk show host for CCTV. I like the indept questions she was asking but carefully not to bring up sensitive issue, his religion.
Yes. Another interview by CCTV (對話) is coming soon. I hope it could be as meaningful as this one.
And to Cara, I know Jeremy is a v proud person. I m just surprised he actually spoke out loud and on a PRC TV program...
Finally, though a lot of ppl criticize Lin's PR team regrading the arrangement, I think their choice of activities/ programs were not bad (except that variety show). Quite some Chinese, who previously dislike Lin because of ABC or Taiwanese reason, changed their mind after the interview. His preservence and wisdom captured a lot of hearts.
@Michelle Wong: Thanks..I KNEW she was someone! Author, director, top 10 interviewer over the years..!She is so competent she stands out a mile! One of my (and my friends) complaints is the casual little fat kid asking him the size of his hands while the 8 yr old's ask him what he likes to eat. There are rumours that this is a tax gimmick, that he is American w/Chinese face, and the only way to get rid of those type of rumours is by really excellent interviews. And she did it. again...thanks.
really wish they wouldn't edit out all the religious stuff because a christian is first and foremost who he is. taking away that stuff just reduces him to a shell of himself. it's like eating a burger without the meat. the buns could taste pretty good, no doubt, but you don't know what you're missing until you've had the meat. it's still a decent interview but unfortunately could've been that much more insightful.
question for y'all - if you were jeremy and knew that they (the communist media) would continue to edit out stuff that's important to you, would you keep doing these interviews? i guess it's either that or nothing so at least you're getting into people's ears...
From his testimony, JLin seemed to have yet grown more mature in Christ after Linsanity.
He listed the 13 things that had to happen for Linsanity to happen, which by themselves could be coincidences, but taken together shows him that the story behind Linsanity is nothing short of God's miracle. God's fingerprints were all over his story.
One thing I thought was quite interesting was when JLin mentioned a guy who took up a spot in his dream college and also a spot on the team who at the time JLin's agent thought was most likely to draft him, but they eventually became great friends and back court teammates. They must have had great fun joking about this last year!
He reflected on how he became concerned about maintaining stats, wins, and popularity. This lead to pressure to perform even better the next game. His personality is such that he puts even greater and additional pressure on himself. He has found relief by deciding to play only for God.
One surprising thing for me is JLin talking about how the perks of becoming a global icon initially had him smiling all the time and everywhere he went, but as Linsanity wore on eventually left him feeling empty. I personally did not consider the possibility that JLin would be left feeling depressed because of the perks that came with Linsanity.
JLin used the story of the Samaritan woman drawing water out of the well and how he was like that woman, initially and temporarily quenched by the water of the well, but not finding lasting joy.
The overall talk was lighthearted and personal, showing an even more approachable side to JLin,
I expect and certainly hope that he will be giving more talks like these back in the US!
"One surprising thing for me is JLin talking about how the perks of becoming a global icon initially had him smiling all the time and everywhere he went, but as Linsanity wore on eventually left him feeling empty. I personally did not consider the possibility that JLin would be left feeling depressed because of the perks that came with Linsanity."
Perhaps it's Hedonic Adaptation? The highs will taper off after cresting, while expectations rises.
I don't know much about Hedonic Adaptation, but reading up a bit on wiki, it is an explanation for JLin's experience, especially Heady's conclusions. The premise that people have happiness set points that they revert back, and that this set point is determined by genetics is interesting. Intuition would tell me that this set point can change throughout a person's life and is determined by more than genetics.
I've been thinking, Hedonic Adaptation as an explanation bothers me. It's not Nature OR Nurture, but Nature AND Nurture. Further studies on Epigenetics will surely belie the belief that we are genetically set at birth.
I think we have to look at what Linsanity is. Aside from financial safety for his family, & a certain satisfaction in conquering obstacles, the concurrent circus that came with it, the loss of privacy, the aggressive media/ fans must have been draining.
As for the perks, novelty wears off & saturation robs us of the subtle pleasures. The ever cresting highs set us up to even higher expectations, [& of course the lows of ever-elusive satisfaction.]
Another thing to consider is the loss of Authenticity. People kissing your a** all day, telling you good things only [afraid to lose your favor.] People anticipating your thoughts, parroting them, it would be like living in an echo chamber. Whether they are lionizing/ or bashing, they are interacting, smiling, talking with Linsanity, not JLin. It would get lonely & alienating, I'd think.
& The disappointment [in people, in material comforts] when you finally realize the cool things you've longed for, are not what they're cracked up to be [AKA "Is this IT?"]
I think JLin definitely felt the "ever-elusive satisfaction."
He talked about how now that he has a certain degree of recognition he wanted more. JLin mentioned how he was the person who during multiple times found himself arguing in the rain with security about being a Knicks player and after Linsanity became the toast of the town and the most famous person in New York at the time. The novelty wore off after a while, and he longed for more. He wants to win an NBA championship now. And after the first, he could imagine himself wanting a second, a third. He imagined the joys of this world wearing off just as quickly as his joys from Linsanity. It was like how people found joy from partying, drinking, and having sex each week, and then wanting more the next week when the joy wore off. He concluded that only living water brings consistent joy.
I don't think Jordan took his entire summer off. He did drink and gamble but Jordon knew his limit and controlled it pretty well. No one could be prefect under such pressure Jordan was. In fact, I don't think people should expect perfectness from Lin as many people seem to like to do these days. No smoking, no drinking, no gambling, even no dating girls, only practicing all day long. This is NOT life!
Also, people expect Lin to be humble, ego free, endearing, funny, smart, handsome, a winner, basically do and talk every single thing right. Lol. He's not God or Superman. No one could be this prefect and people could have expectation on his on court performance, but shoud not expect too much on every other part of his life.
Michael Jordan comes from a solid and stable middle class family. He grew up in a loving and stable home environment.
Jordan is not perfect, and he's made his share of superstar mistakes. When his father James was killed at that rest stop in a random act of violence, that broke Jordan more than we know.
Lin and Jordan have more in common than they have differences.
Who expects him not to drink, smoke, gamble but to be a perfect player?
Jeremys former roomate said that Jeremy used to be a moddest drinker. He is also not asexual. He used to date girls back in college - there is at least one report of that :) He was also seen clubbing with Fields, Harrellson and Jordan after the Knicks got knocked out of playoffs. According to the reports Lin was seen drinking and mingling with MODELS. Its not a question of if but when he is supposed to have fun.
You and me - we can have fun whenever we want to. Prof athletes with multimillion dollar contracts should know when they are supposed to have fun and when not. Showing up at a game hungover is a no go.
People here are just expecting him to peform on the court. I think that is a reasonable expectation. Anyway - JLin really doesnt seem to be an idiot. He is making big money :) - therefor he should work hard and have disciplin. Lets say he plays basketball for 10 years. Is it too late to have fun at the age of 34 - with millions and millions of dollars in his pockets?
As long as he keeps playing good I wouldnt mind seing videos of him on the floor on his own vomit whilst trying to eat a burger. I wouldnt even mind if he ends up drunk and trashing hotel rooms - filled with hxxkers. I would still be a JLin fan :) All he needs to do is play bball the way he does.
I don't think you could criticize how Jordan lived his life. He's not prefect, no one is for that matter, but he's a success and he created his own success. Even you admitted that he's one of the hardest workers around and was a professional while at working time and that's the only thing that matters. You don't need to see Jordan as a prefect role model of life but he sure is a role model of bball and sports and generally how to do your work in life. And about the disrespect part, I see zero problem with that. That's his movitation and it worked! Even a person like Lin admitted he used Kobe's harmless "I don't know about him" to be fired up. That's how sports especially pro sports work, you mike the slightest disrespect to movitate in such a long season and long career. Otherwise what and where are the reasons to want to win again and again?
Jordan didn't consume the game. The game consumed Jordan.
Let's hope that Lin can ride the wave but not get sucked to the bottom of the ocean.
The double edged sword of being Asian American in the NBA is that Jeremy "Lin" gets mobbed and pressured and financed while Jeremy "Lynn" has a lower profile but not the career earnings and accolades.
I would like JLin to learn how to drink moderately, not teetotal.
In his situation, he'll have to drink sometimes when bonding with his mates. He can't forever be drinking water, or hanging onto a bud lite for dear life.
It'll be nice if after a night of clubbing , he wouldn't have to wake up & feel bad reading about how he was acting 'like a frat boy.' etc.
The women who will be coming up to him now will also be far from his devout-Christian gf at Harvard. It will be all types, nice girls, no-name hos to supermodels, all with their own motives. His fame [& now money] attracts it. Aspiring baby-mamas will be circling.
He needs to know how to hold his liquor. Better be careful than sorry.
Usually the best player is not necessarily the best person or best role model. See Lebron James, Kobe Bryant, Tiger Woods. The bball fan side of me would like to see Lin try to be the best player he could be rather than the best role model. If he comes off as a jerk rather than a humble boy, do be it. Ultimately, winners are always most beloved and endearing, not the most humble, not the best role model. If by any chance, Carmelo Anthony wins a championship in NY, he would be immortal too. Of course it would great to be both. I just think too many people (maybe fangirls lol) focus and expect too much out of Lin as a person rather than a player.
L'd like to see Jeremy be as successful as Roger Federer in his professional sports career and personal life.
Dating models, hot babes are the dreams of most men but I think all Jeremy wants is a nice, decent, intelligent christian...err, like his sister in law, maybe?
I see similarities between Jlin and Fedex. Just look at Federer, he's successful, good looking, humble, yet he's hardly seen partying and dating hot models. When he married his long-time girl friend(met at the age of 19), ppl have this to say about his relationship with his fiancee :
"Their relationship is said to be one of the most enduring in the temptation-filled world of competitive sport."
Lol. Just let Lin be himself, especially personal life wise. Expecting him to be Federer-like is too much. Getting the career part right is enough for me. Really couldn't care less about the personal life part, especially his choice of girl.
Sport figures face judgment, critics constantly. Is how you deal with it; let these negative feedback bring you down or turn them into fuel to motivate you to work harder, play better and most imprtantly show a positive character and spirit of soportmenship.
Jeremy Lin says that he is playing for a audience of ONE (Our God Almighty). I am a Christians who is much older than JL, yet he is an inspiration to me. Godspeed Jeremy.
GO Jeremy! Impact the world with your great , inspiring and Christ-centered testimony!
ReplyDeleteIt is really a miracle how his story has unfolded. Keep on staying faithful to God's plan for you JLin and continue to be an inspiration to all!
ReplyDeleteI don't expect them to win a championship this season or next. That depends a lot on his teammates and every other NBA team not winning. Winning doesn't matter as much to me. I want to see Jeremy Lin start for a team and be the exciting player that he is. Watching him play makes me feel proud enough.
ReplyDeleteI will drop everyhing on hands, change my appointments just to watch him play. He makes the entire game more exciting and full of anticipation whenever he staeps into court. It doesn't matter if Rockets not able to win a championship his or next season but he process is more important and I hope Jeremy Lin can shine in his new team. Let the bygone be bygone and just like what he said, opening another new chapter as a NBA player and it will definately be a another new challange for him going into with a scrapped a rebuilding team like Rockets.
DeleteFriend of mine, Asian/American Lawyer, said "Great thing about law, you can open an office anywhere."
DeleteSounds like she's going to Texas.
any live stream for the event?
ReplyDeleteMelo brushes off Oakley criticism
ReplyDeletehttp://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/23809/melo-brushes-off-oakley-criticism
ON JEREMY LIN: Anthony was asked by a reporter if former PG Jeremy Lin had anything to be "scared of" when the Knicks face Houston, Lin's new team, this season. (The Rockets first come to the Garden on Dec. 17).
"No, not at all. I don't play against him," Anthony said. "I don't guard him so he doesn't have nothing to be scared of."
Oakley: Anthony, Stoudemire don’t make Knicks teammates better
http://www.iamagm.com/article/charles-oakley-takes-some-subtle-digs-at-melo--amare#.UDlPytaPX0w
http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/knicksblog/oakley_anthony_stoudemire_don_make_ZYb2GHKZyEF1hc4EYoGYfN
Oakley has been very consistent with his views on Melo and Stoudemire (february):
ReplyDeletehttp://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/7579000/charles-oakley-new-york-knicks-mike-dantoni-needs-blend-carmelo-anthony-jeremy-lin
I don't want to be the villain again but what does Oakley's opinion on Stat and Melo have to do with Jeremy Lin and the Rockets? Do you really want to jump to the bandwagon of any critic of the Knicks and their players? Its almost September and some people have not move from the Knicks? Shouldn't we be happy for Jeremy since he's out of that toxic franchise? I'm just curious on your hate towards the knicks.
Delete@ nephelauxetic
Delete:) For me, Oakley's latest statements [August] remind me of an ex-Nyk who DID made his team mates better.
The Oakman saw the coming storm way back in mid-Feb. They should have listened...
Read the ESPN article. They were different questions and not directly related.
DeleteNot directly related, but you can easily see how they tie-in. C'mon... :)
DeleteOakley's Feb & August comments were basically on Melo & his ability [or inability] to make his team mates better. I wish D'Antoni was as pro-active as Oakley advised him that he should. But knowing how avoidant the guy is, he probably just made a joke & said "Oh, we'll figure it out" or something.
Oakley's actually anti-Lin. I remember that he said on espn before Lin's an average player and didn't deserve his contract and the Knicks made the right choice not matching. In fact, he seems to dislike anyone Knicks related not just Melo.
DeleteI'm glad Jeremy Lin is talking and not ME.
ReplyDelete'Cause if it were me talking, it would sound like THIS:
"Gwae myah shih Jeremy Lin. Wa pa kyu di NBA.
Dage beekog lang shyoh wa ng, wa eetyeng hamman.
Hukatsai hyaeh Knickshag wa chi qua mai.
Quee beekog ki shao! Lang cong heh she Linsanity!
Knicks ca wa keehoo a ga wag tatsukee.
Chimma wah ham Houston Rockets.
Wah tan TWAHSEH GJNEE a chok hwahhee!!!"
Yup, I'd say it just like that!
Error: Knicks ho wa chi qua Mai.
Delete??? That is not pinyin is it?
DeleteThat sounds like Dothraki! lol
DeleteThe King in the North!!!
Actually it's taiwanese - no pinyin in Taiwan.
Can anyone translate what Jeremy and KHuang said?
DeleteMin nan?
DeleteTaiwan lang, li ti tweh?
DeleteWa ai be ham li tsam shang.
Li sheng wah wae weh kee Yeungoo.
@ Khuang
Deletewhat's hamman? [slow?]
Hukatsai hyaeh?
& GJNEE?
& did you cussed on line 4?
The last post is a poem?
My name is Jeremy, I play ball in the NBA.
DeleteAll those Americans didn't think I could do it, I must be weak (hamman: dumb and slow).
Fortunately (Hukatsai)those (hyaeh) knicks gave me a try,
The whole US went crazy! People say it's Linsanity.
Knicks bullied and kicked me out.
Now I am with the Houston Rockets.
Myself and all ages (GJNEE a: children) are all happy.
Never thought my mother tongue could be of use here one day.
Excellent Hans!
DeleteYour command of Taiwanese is flawless! I am amazed that you figured out my crazy writing!
The only thing I had different from you is the last line. "I earn big time money and am totally happy". Maybe you could write something out.
If you are the same Hans I knew, you are a big time baller despite your short height. I never saw anybody stop you, and probably STILL nobody can stop you. Your game reminds me of Damon "Mighty Mouse" Stoudamire in that you shot set shot three pointers literally by hoisting your entire body behind the shot. Unorthodox, but the shot went IN!
Lol, Thanks @ Hans!
DeleteYears ago, this Hans kid and I were at a summer nerd study camp for which I was completely unsuitable because of my poor academics.
DeleteHans and I were a tiny backcourt, but we ROASTED people. There were some incredible Asian ballets there.
Hans tried to teach me how to shoot his side set shot. Unfortunately, my body couldn't do the move. Even though I am just as small as Hans, I actually became a bruising "Baby Barkley" type who enjoyed knocking bigger guys around and could score inside against players over a foot taller!
We'd roast people now even more, Hans. Gimme the ball on the block even if some tall heavy athletic guy is laughing at me. I'll ground and pound him on both ends while you fire away from outside! But we'd be no match for Jeremy Lin and his brothers, even if I were flagrant fouling Lin as he dunked the ball with me hanging onto his ankle!!
Lol, Not only JLin, gotta watch out for Joseph too. Accdg to mama Lin, he's the 3-pt specialist in the family.
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Delete@ KHuang,
Deletethere's NO WAY I could have decipher "TWAHSEH GJNEE" as big money... I would had spelled "dua" for big. Interesting speech, and even crazier spelling for sure.
Also, I balled in Long Island decades ago as the lone Asian baller in the park...not the same Hans you paired up with.
@ via wong
Lol, indeed. Did you dig into your Hokkien?
@ Hans
DeleteHaha, yeah.
Btw, what's tsam shang?
& Yeungoo?
Is this a 'stanza' [of a poem? Maybe self-written?]
Like some kind of nostalgic rumination?
DeleteHey KHuang, butt in anytime. :)
Just a blurry guess...
Deletetsam shang = to interact, to meet, to discuss
Yeungoo = forever
and yes, I'd think it's a stanza... doesn't make exact sense collectively but the idea is there. Nostalgia!
:) Once again, thanks! @ Hans
DeleteHans, I am from there too but indeed never ran I to you. You're still DA MAN!
DeleteYou are right on "tsam shang". "Yeungoo" is "English". My last sentence was "You guys please first change my words to English". The Taiwanese put together the words for HAPPY LAZY (Yeung) and language or tongue (goo) to make up a word for "English"!
I also could have wrote "Twahtzeh Chjee" for "big time money". If I wanted to write "children", I would have written "Geenah".
I have seriously contemplated writing a manual that teaches Taiwanese. I have not done so because there are many people that speak it better than I do. Being from Tainan, I speak the so called "Prestige" Taiwanese that allows virtually any Taiwanese speaker to understand me but makes it hard for me to understand other Taiwanese speakers who have heavy Mandarin accents and insert pidgin Mandarin phrases into their speech.
@ via wong
Deletevery much welcome! It was both puzzling and fun, though didn't get them all this time.
@KHuang
Lesson taken. My parents are from south and central Taiwan, and supposedly I was babysit by a Hakka family... I have heard of "goo" for language but I've always thought it's the accent of the north. If I remember it correctly my family would pronounce "ghee" for the same word. Oh well, accents huh.
@ KHuang
DeleteHaha, I thought English is Eng bun oue.
Yeah, you should write that manual. The other people you're talking about won't be writing it anyhow.
Accents in Taiwanese are completely all over the place.
DeleteIn my own family, we don't have a unified way of saying our surname! Everybody pronounces it differently, depending on their mood. Thus I am completely forgiving of nonTaiwanese who are afraid of mispronouncing my name!
For example, most of the Taiwanese I know here in the West coast say "Taigee" when they are speaking of the Taiwanese language. Yet everybody around me from Tainan in NY said "Taiwan weh" or "Taiwan word". As I have broadened my exposure, my Taiwanese has become more flexible the way a true native Taiwanese's would be.
In Taiwanese, people literally make up words as they go along. I can see how via wong's "eng bun oue" could literally translate to "yellow rice word". A Taiwanese like myself would interpret that as being "the land of Gold's language" (America was considered royally rich by Taiwanese elders that I knew) or simply because "yellow" (ng) sounds like the first syllable of the word "English" and they added "rice word" to denote America as the land of plenty.
If one goes back, there are direct Spanish/Portuguese and Dutch words that have found their way into Taiwanese. The word for "car" is "chaa" ("coche" in Spanish, abbreviated in Taiwanese). The word for "stare down" in Taiwanese is "geh", "guh" in Dutch!
I do the Wing Chun Kung fu style, among others. NonTaiwanese speakers have flamed me and even challenged me to fistfights (which they never follow through on) over my easy translation of Wing Chun kung fu terms like "huen tsao" (smoke away, like making the gestures of smoking a Marlboro) or chum kiu (spear hand, with kiu being a Cantonese way of saying "choo" or "hand" in Taiwanese" or bong tsao (carry away, using the motions of picking up a big beer keg) or even the true name of the Wing Chun style, "Wing Chun He Koon" (Crane Kung Fu from Yong Chun Village in southern China!)
Here's a classic Taiwanese put down that people STILL use at me today because they think I am a good for nothing slacker who stinks at academics:
Delete"Cha Pa Shyo Yeung!"
This phrase was hurled at me angrily when I was growing up, far more than "Wa tyah li" or "I love (hurt) you". Notice how the double meaning of "tyah" as both love and pain kind of sums up the whole experience, as reflects the Taiwanese openmindedly practicality!
"Tuh Shah", which means "Thank you" or "Knife Etched" (double Taiwanese meaning again!!!)
With all the violent references and even violent sound of spoken Taiwanese, it's no wonder that nonTaiwanese speakers (many of whom are Asian) say that I speak KLINGON!!!
DeleteTaiwanese lawmaking sessions are more physically violent than Klingon space invasions. That's not opinion, that's a FACT.
Taiwanese legislators brawling in the Senate. Yup, seen those.
Delete@ # 1 j
Delete"I always found it to be a little "rough" listening."
- Kinda like Cantonese, there's that k sound. :)
@ KHuang
Your surname is Ng, right?
When I think of "Tuh Shah" I think 多謝. "Knife Etched" never occurred to me, but now I can see how that could be. After all, our every utterance will naturally bring to mind a whole spectrum of connotations & permutations. If we take an active role in the process, it'll be like jazz.
You should write the manual. Or write the stuff on a blog.
@KHuang
DeleteI consider myself very fluent in Taiwanese (born in kaohsiung or, guh hyon) but I've never seen anyone explain the language like you do. pretty crazy. Did you take a course growing up or something? My mom tried teaching me beh-we-ghee (white spoken word) which was developed I believe by foreign missionaries in order to help translate the bible - in fact my grandma could read it like reading a novel but could hardly read mandarin. My Taiwanese is pure conversational - i know all the phrases even the obscure ones and can talk to any southern cab driver like a "lo mua" without a hint of english accent but can't explain it or much less teach it.
@Hans and @KHuang - you guys grew up in long island? were you involved with any taiwanese churches at all?
I also used to attend TAF in Grand Rapids, Michigan every summer but that decades ago in high school... good times. haha
My Taiwanese is strictly from home.
DeleteI have had zero formal education in Taiwanese. I hardly grew up with anybody Taiwanese either. Still, my mother and father and grandmother are all Taiwanese even though shockingly my mother and father talked to me in ENGLISH and to each other in very poor Mandarin! Thus my true sole source of Taiwanese was my grandmother. Alll fights were conducted in Taiwanese, of course.
I love that "lo mua" term. It literally translates to "braised eel" with the slippery gooey consistency being a derogatory put down that denotes shysterism.
I seem to have an inborn gift for languages and music. According to my Japanese friends, I have a perfect Japanese accent when saying Japanese words. I also suspect that I have a good Russian accent and would likely be an excellent Spanish speaker if I chose to be one. Nobody else in my family on either side has this kind of gift, though we have some incredibly smart people in multiple fields on both sides of the family (a typical Taiwanese family trait is true genius!)
Speaking of jazz, via wong, learning Taiwanese DEFINITELY made it easy for me. I play jazz guitar and can improvise unaccompanied chord melody with solid rhythm and feel. When I'm playing professionally in gigs, I will spin out a tune as long as I want. I swear, the cadence and the phrasing and mentality are IDENTICAL to Taiwanese for me!
Recently, I tried to fill the few gaps I have in my Taiwanese by shopping for some sort of CD ROM that would teach me the language. Maybe I'm dumb, but I couldn't find one. At least I did find out that I speak pure "Prestige Taiwanese", and that's why I had no trouble communicating in Taiwan when I visited as a kid. My family is from Tainan, and that's the local dialect that I know.
On one of the Taiwanese language websites, I recall them putting up a translational challenge. The phrase was "An automobile filled with eels". I immediately said out loud "Ji le chaa oo chok tse mua". Word for word, that is "A single car has many eels".
Because Jeremy Lin is by himself with no other huge basketball star in the Houston Rockets, it is likely that he is not able to meet the public's standards of a "star player." However, fans like myself know that he has potential to rise as a super star and are proud as long as he does his best to play his part. As the only star player in his team, I don't understand why his salary is only around the thousands whereas the Dodgers spend hundreds of millions for their players. An NBA reporter had stated that Jeremy Lin's salary was actually too high, causing numerous people to question the organization's way of determining a player's salary. Some believe that probable reasons as to why Jeremy Lin's salary is unjust include that he is Asian. It is likely that they are not afraid to push him around and treat him unfairly. Although this isn't for sure, Jeremy Lin is a great player that deserves much more than unjust treatment. He is one of the greatest examples of a basketball star for he has given several children the opportunity to learn from him and has even created a foundation of his own. That is why I strongly believe Jeremy Lin should be voted for the NBA Superstar of 2013, so please support him too!
ReplyDeleteNBA Superstar of 2013? Is there such a thing? I think you mean 2013 All-Star.
DeleteYes
DeleteBecause Jeremy Lin is by himself with no other huge basketball star in the Houston Rockets, it is likely that he is not able to meet the public's standards of a "star player." However, fans like myself know that he has potential to rise as a super star and are proud as long as he does his best to play his part. As the only star player in his team, I don't understand why his salary is only around the thousands whereas the Dodgers spend hundreds of millions for their players. An NBA reporter had stated that Jeremy Lin's salary was actually too high, causing numerous people to question the organization's way of determining a player's salary. Some believe that probable reasons as to why Jeremy Lin's salary is unjust include that he is Asian. It is likely that they are not afraid to push him around and treat him unfairly. Although this isn't for sure, Jeremy Lin is a great player that deserves much more than unjust treatment. He is one of the greatest examples of a basketball star for he has given several children the opportunity to learn from him and has even created a foundation of his own. That is why I strongly believe Jeremy Lin should be voted for the NBA Superstar of 2013, so please support him too!
ReplyDeleteCraig Carton Rips Michael Kay for claiming an exclusive story for ESPN about Jeremy Lin [Did Melo asked D'Antoni to play him?]
ReplyDeletehttp://omg-celebrity-gossip.com/craig-carton-rips-michael-kay/
- Lin corroborated the story about Melo asking D'Antoni to play him [untrue]. He probably was trying to make peace & ease the rumors of jealousy as Melo ease back into the line-up during Linsanity.
Knicks leaked story that Carmelo Anthony told Mike D’Antoni to play Jeremy Lin
http://larrybrownsports.com/basketball/knicks-leaked-story-that-carmelo-anthony-told-mike-dantoni-to-play-jeremy-lin/118457
Michael Kay deserves to be ripped, along with his fat sidekick, for wasting their listeners' time by commenting on basketball, a sport neither one of them know jack about.
DeleteJapan Times: NBA star Lin greeted like hero in Hong Kong
ReplyDeletehttp://www.japantimes.co.jp/text/sk20120826a1.html
[There's been write-ups about JLin's HK trip in French papers, & the Netherlands as well. He is truly an international celebrity. It helps that HK is an int'l city too.] :)
I wish Lin will travel to some Europe cities or actually any other cities other than China and Taiwan next summer where he gets less attention and can truly explore those cities and relax with his family while still promoting basketball/ doing charity work/ fullfilling his endorsement obligation. His current month long Asian trip must be too exhausting physically and mentally. I doubt it though. Those fans in China and Taiwan will kill him if he doesn't visit there. Lol.
Delete@ Cara
DeleteActually, I thought he had plans on visiting Japan & Korea with his best friend this time around. I guess Volvo had other ideas.
You're right about Europe, & his Asian fans though. They'll be saying he's snubbing them [again] haha.
If Jeremy continues his amazing streak like last season for the Rockets, rest assured he'll experience fans mobbing him in certain European cities next year.
DeleteJeremy's story doesn't just inspire Asians on the other sides of the Pacific Ocean, people living on other sides of the Atlantic Ocean are equally inspired!
I am hearing fans spreading around that continent chanting " Jeremy, we love you! "; " Welcome to Europe! "
Asst Coach DeStefano in Italy, with an Italian dude wearing a JLin jersey :)
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I don't doubt that Lin has fans everywhere in the world but you can't really say that they and the media there would be more crazy than those in Taiwan, HK and China. People in Taiwan, HK and China tracked his every single move that even I felt exhausted just by reading. They went as far as wanting to know what he eat every day and followed him to the restaurant! Also, I suspect that his Asian tour next summer not only can't be shortened but needs to expand or those fans in those cities he visited this time round or the cities he hasn't gone yet are going to complain that he snubs them. And you know how many cities there are in China! Also, this time it's just the Volvo and Nike promotion. If he gets a few more endorsements in the coming season, I suspect even a 2 month touring isn't long enough. Lol.
DeleteAnd although I read the news he still maintains his training routine but I would think that it's not the same as training in the places he's familiar with like in his home. Also, so much traveling and constantly being mobbed not only in promotion event but in every minute besides in hotel room are tiring to anyone even without those training. I don't know anyone but I usually felt super exhausted after going on a few days trip and I am just a normal person going out for sightseeing. It's almost as exhausting as going to work and usually took several days to recover. I couldn't imagine a month long away from home with that kind of attention. It's not a relaxing vacation for Lin that's for sure.
To the above poster who said what if Lin continues his amazing streak. If he continues, he will only get even more popular in China and Taiwan and then cannot not visit and spend more time there! His fans and endorsers won't let him go anywhere else! Lol!
DeleteJLin mobbed
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Not only exhausting, but can cause bodily-harm.
Not easy being so beloved! :)
Every coach of basketball should want to have a point guard like Lin.
DeleteUnselfish and team oriented, Lin tries to play the game the way it should be played.
If Lin has a good season like we all expect him to, he will be mobbed in foreign countries other than Asia for his pure basketball skills. I would enjoy seeing that.
whoa! that sea of people is borderline scary! lol...that must be the price to pay for fame and success...
DeleteThe international tour of Jeremy is indeed very tiring for him. I wonder if he can really focus on his basketball training. He might be too exhausted come training camp. I hope next off-season he'll minimize his trips maybe to about 2 weeks instead of 1 month. But then again, he's too selfless to disregard his fans.
ReplyDeleteGood concern, but Lin needs to get used to this.
DeleteThe crowds will only increase and the demands will become more serious.
What we are seeing is that Jeremy Lin is getting the Jordan Rules, both on and off the court!
I openly propose that Lin's global following could not happen if Lin couldn't make a similar on court impact to what Jordan made.
Speaking of Jordan...
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There's nearly 100 local reporters covering JLin's HK trip. The last time HK saw such a big media throng on a visiting sports figure was Jordan's 2004 HK trip. [I guess neither Kobe, nor Lebron whipped up the type of media frenzy JLin did.]
I agree with KHuang that Lin needs to learn to embrace his fame more. He doesn't need to act like an attention seeker but nor he needs to act like a shy little boy. He should understand that his performance and bball ability are the roots for Linsanity. The better he plays, only the more attention he will get on and off the court. Does he want to go back to being an end of the bench guy with few people caring about him? I am sure not! Get used to being famous and don't need to tell or act like you don't like it because we believe in your bball ability and believe this is your life until you retire!
DeleteHe needs to travel with some entourage, not his parents all the time. He's a big boy and need to stop acting like a mama's boy. maybe it's just me but i felt like his parents have to much control of his life and decisions.
DeleteOr better yet, he needs to travel with his teammates, trainers and coaches to practice more basketball and get this never-ending tour over with. I want to see some training camp videos in October. I can't wait for the season to start. I want to see some games already.
DeleteLin is a good Asian man who owes a great deal of his success to his parents.
DeleteI say ROCK ON with them following him around. Their kind of protectiveness is exactly what Lin needs.
Lin has the right to go anywhere he wants and train anywhere he wants. He knows what he is doing and so does his family.
Other NBA players should be so fortunate to have a family like Lin's. Too many times, a NBA player's family will completely drain him dry of assets and leave the player bankrupt before his playing days are over!
Lately I have been wondering who else the houston rockets are going to sign. even though they got jeremy lin, I think they should really try to continue adding more talent and at the same time build around him if they want to be successful this year. If you look at how lebron james went to miami to team up with dwayne wade and chris bosh, the end result was a championship. In order to win nowadays, super teams The lakers have just added dwight howard to their team. They are easily listed as one of the favorites to win the championship. I think houston has a lot more work to do in order to compete in the west. Sure we may have gotten better now that we have jeremy lin but it wouldnt hurt to add more talent into this houston rocket team! are being formed which means that houston should do the same.
ReplyDeleteMy man Darko is still available for cheap.
DeleteA center axis of Darko, Asik, and Motiejeunas provides 18 fouls and a few dunks fed by Lin every game.
I go by the Phil Jackson approach of running 3 deep at the C and PF positions in order to have injury insurance.
Plus, Darko would be Lin's enforcer. Nobody in the NBA will mess with Darko.
Seriously, Darko isn't picked up by anyone yet? I would think a team like Miami will sure pick him up. There is really no downside getting him at minimum. He might even start for Miami and Lebron can make him look good. Maybe he has offers in Europe bigger than in nba?
Delete@ Cara
DeleteReal Madrid?
http://hoopsuniverse.net/darko-milicic-on-real-madrid-wishlist/
Darko already turned down Real Madrid.
DeleteI say let Jeremy Lin embrace him on the Rockets. Darko would be literally be Lin's biggest supporter if Lin passed him the ball the way no point guard in the NBA ever has.
Darko is the meanest and nastiest player in the entire NBA. He will fight at the drop of a hat, and he's absolutely terrifying. No guy in his right mind would waltz over the lane to headhunt Lin without Darko coming over for retaliation.
I'm telling you guys (and especially Daryl Morey), Darko's GOT GAME. Just please give a chance for Jeremy Lin to FREE DARKO!!!
@ KHuang
DeleteYou need to tweet Morey, haha.
http://twitter.com/dmorey
You do it.
DeleteI am awful with computers, mainly by choice.
Old school! lol
DeleteNo to Darko he had his chance to play. (unlike lin) He got beat out in Minnesota fair and square. This is is young team. Plus this team has 87 powerforwards so some of them can play center
DeleteEww, Minnesota!
DeleteHe had Luke Ridnour (a shoot first backup pg) and Jonny Flynn (an already shot dead pg) pretending to pass him the ball. He got run off the team by Rick Adelman and never received passes from Ricky Rubio.
None of Houston's players other than Asik have Darko's size and agility. Plus, Darko is a good passing center who was expected to create shots for others. Let Lin create shots for him.
I'd like to see Lin improve Darko's game like he did for Novak and Chandler and Smith and even Anthony despite his seemingly reduced output.
Darko ranked #352
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There is a report that Darko has officially signed with Real Madrid. Don't know the amount of money but I think they probably give more than nba minimum.
DeleteI think Jeremy is spending too much time touring Taiwan. It's a tiny population compared to China. And there are way more poor and under priveleged children in Mainland China who don't have access to basketball courts or even schools.
ReplyDeletePlus there's much more more marketing potential in China than in Taiwan, if he spends too much time on the island, the people on the mainland might denounce him as not being one of their own.
Lin's situation is very tricky. While the marketing potential in China is greater than in Taiwan, his support appears to be greater in Taiwan than in China (by % of course, not by sheer volumn). Also whether he admits it or not, his root is actually closer to Taiwan than to mainland China since both of his parents were born there and his family still have some direct relatives in Taiwan like grandmother, uncle etc there while his relationship is a little bit far away. Also, you might not understand, most Taiwanese people dislike China than Chinese people dislike Taiwan because China considers Taiwan "part of their own" but Taiwan doesn't think so. So it would actually cause a bigger uproar if Lin spends all his time in China and less in Taiwan than the other way around. That's why he needs to balance them out and spends almost equal time in the 2 areas. Lol. I wouldn't be in his shoes in dealing with those Taiwan/China issues that's for sure.
DeleteIt might be hard to curb his time in Taiwan, he is The Pride of Taiwan to his fans & there will be a huge backlash, esp if he does this in favor of China.
DeleteOn the Chinese side, there's already some awkwardness [his paternal uncle might have said some pro-Taiwan stuffs that had antagonized some Chinese, it might be why his reception in Beijing was so muted.]
Mama Lin had tried to limit people from repeatedly bringing up whether JLin would play for China. [Back in Feb, at the height of Linsanity, Xinhua called on JLin to denounce his US citizenship, 'come home' & play for China]
http://www.chinasmack.com/2012/stories/xinhua-wants-jeremy-lin-to-give-up-us-citizenship-play-for-china.html
Indeed there were some grumblings about him not being 'one of them, but an American' & how Marbury loves China more, stuff like that. But JLin seemed to have dispelled the negativity on this trip, being the super charismatic & diplomatic guy that he is. :)
He needs to tell his family to shut up. There is money to be made in china. So this pro-Taiwan stuff needs to stop. Hell even the Taiwanese companies have huge ties to the mainland. Lin and Co should think the same way.
DeleteHe should go to his family's town in china and hold a basketball camp there. Bring the media to show your family in china. This would be good PR.
@ ChuckT
DeleteLin-tense war of words between Taiwan, China
http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/248643/sports/basketball/lin-tense-war-of-words-between-taiwan-china
His maternal grandma has actually been giving money to a local high-school in her ancestral home in China, so that's great publicity.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/15/sports/basketball/in-china-knicks-lin-emerges-as-a-star-and-a-symbol.html?_r=1
I guess Volvo wanted him to hit the big cities at this point.
@via wong
DeleteLin also needs to learn Mandarin Chinese. Get rosetta stone dude.
Let Lin meet with whatever country fits his schedule.
DeleteThe Taiwanese are happy to receive him. The Chinese are happy to receive him. Likely so would the Japanese and even the Russians, among others!
Lin is a SUPERSTAH. Superstahs go where they need to go when they feel like it!
But he's spending more time in Taiwan than he does in mainland China. He shouldn't focus on any one country, he should reach out to other countries as well, he is an international star.
DeleteThe last thing he wants to become is a political propaganda tool, the way that Cuba used Elian Gonzalez as propaganda against the U.S.
He is not the "Pride of Taiwan", he is not a product of Taiwan, he does not vote for or support Taiwan policies.
@ ABC Baller
DeleteIdeally, it'll be nice if he can branch out internationally. Not only is time & energy limited, but his endorsement responsibilities are eating up a large chunk of his itinerary.
As for being the Pride of Taiwan, they are very possessive of him. Just now at the airport, the fans & the media are wondering why he spent time with Shanghainese & Hong Kong media & fans at their respective airports but not them [Taiwanese.] :)
Discrepancies may be explained by the fact that they were his first times in those cities.
Delete@ wilsc
DeleteThere were hurt feelings, I don't know if they can see that, haha. During the Times gala, JLin failed to speak with a bunch of Taiwanese reporters & was branded a snob.
http://lifestyle.inquirer.net/45329/it%E2%80%99s-all-about-the-lin
I see nothing wrong with Lin spending more time in Taiwan than China.
DeleteIt is not a political statement for Lin to spend more time in the country where his father and mother spent their formative years in.
Lin owes nobody anything. Nobody has the right to cry foul if Lin chooses to spend time in Taiwan or Timbuktu or Timor.
@ wilsc
DeleteFlashed by in 20 seconds, Fans disappointed
20秒快閃 球迷「豪」失望
http://n.yam.com/tlt/sports/20120827/20120827751131.html
China is slowly drawing the curtains of Imperialism. No foreigners on the streets of Hong Kong; kids speak one language; 'National Expansionism' into Philippines and Japanese Islands; international monopoly on strategic minerals. China is not a good place to be right now for those who've read or lived history.
DeleteThere's a petition for a new Rockets jersey design
ReplyDeletehttp://www.change.org/petitions/houston-rockets-a-new-jersey-design-for-the-houston-rockets-2012#
Already got two Jeremy Lin Rockets' jersey for me and a buddy.
DeleteDo any of you feel a little disturbed by his parents? Jeremy is a big boy but he pretty much acting like a mama's boy. his parents have to much says in his life. i wouldn't be surprise if his mom control his finance and he only gets allowance. this is sad.
ReplyDeleteSteiner said “it’s not any secret” that Shirley Lin “is running the show,” when it comes to the business interests of her son.
Deletehttp://articles.nydailynews.com/2012-07-18/news/32734349_1_jeremy-lin-steiner-sports-brandon-steiner/2
As Twu recalls, Jeremy’s mother responded with, “He plays for God,” in response to Rich’s ethnicity pitch. Shirley Lin’s voice may have been the most important of them all. As Jim Sutter puts it, “Make no mistake. The mother calls all the shots.”
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@ 777am
There's a big possibility on the allowance thing.
But then I consider how much pressure he's facing with all the expectations, & the media, everybody surging forward trying to grab a piece of him, then I'm grateful she's in charge. Like how she demanded the Chinese reporters stop asking sensitive political questions. Or how she repulsed the paparazzi in HK.
I do wish there's a stronger male presence aside from his pastor, who I'm sure is an outstanding guy, but might not give good practical advice. [Like learning how to hold one's liquor, how to fight/ fight back, etc. You know, manly stuff.]
He's dad looks hand-off except for bball, but who knows...
You are wrong. His family is his best support. I see nothing wrong that he's with his parents all the time. In fact, it's good to see that he takes care of his family.
DeleteThe Jeremy Lin we love and embrace is the product of his family. Enough said.
Deleteof course family are important and he should take care of his family but this is beyond taking care. it look likes his life is control by his family. he's not a kid anymore, he's freaking 24 years old and went to Harvard. He should know how to handle his business rather than someone making decision for him. yeah typical Tiger Mom.
DeleteI wish MY Tiger Mom were more like Jeremy Lin's mom.
DeleteI'd have turned out a lot better, although not on a basketball court because I have NO GAME!
Jeremy's probably not even allowed to have a girlfriend, which would be kind of sad. That would be a very typical Asian parent move (my parents tried pulling this crap on me in college). They probably view it as a distraction. But you'd have to think Jeremy could manage that, but oh well. Maybe it's better that way, so he can focus totally on his game, I guess. But IMO, balance in life is important.
DeleteOn a personal note, if I was him, I'd be gettin' it in, if you catch my drift. I'd be like George Clooney, dating models and everything.
I'm sure not to that extend but maybe in High School. He had a girlfriend in college. He does party and drink in college but very rarely.
DeleteLol. I don't think it's his patents' move for Lin not dating a girlfriend yet. Even it is, who cares as long as Lin's happy? I think ultimately it's his own choice, if he wants to date a lot of models, he would date a lot of models. I just suspect it's difficult for someone like Lin who is practically an overnight sensation with his new found fame to find and trust any new friends if he wants a healthy relationship. Anyone in his situation would wisely stick to his family and old long term friends and them only. That's why people say once you become famous, you get no more new real friends.
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DeleteHe should be travelling with his entourage not his family. How could you relax with such a strict family. I'm sure he would want some night out and a female companion. Imagine if J-Lin is a player, he'd probably have a 99% success rate of getting it in with all those Taiwanese/HK/Chinese celebrity.
He's an NBA star. If he would allow it, he'd be swarmed by women, & would have to swat them away with a stick, lol.
DeleteJLin may be someone who is strict on himself. If his own strict values align with his family's values, how is this being controlled or babied?
DeleteLin should not have a relationship now. Too much time away from basketball. He needs to establish himself 1st the nba because females cost time and money.
DeleteLol. ChuckT sounds more like a Tiger Mom than Lin's mom. Actually a healthy relationship is good for a man instead of being constantly temptated by different kind of women. A healthy relationship can also help one to mature and focus and have someone to share happiness and unhappiness. Lin should find a nice girl if he can. I just suspect that it's difficult for him to find the suitable one now with his new added awareness of "friends". Sure he can probably bang any girl if he wants but those hot whore, supermodel, celebrity or fangirl types ala Kim K are most likely not his type. Haha.
DeleteHe'll be catnip to gold-diggers.
Deletehe should find a hot virgin and bang.
DeletePeople have been interested in JLins family all along. I dont wonder that they have come on tour with him. After all - everybody is a product of the parents genes and upbringing. People want to meet "the Lins" to honor them and let them know that they have done a good job. Taiwanese engineers, moving to USA, being successful immigrants, raising good sons. This is the american dream. Its not as common as people think. Lots of immigrants fail to achieve what the Lins have achieved.
DeleteBesides that - its no secret that JLin has always had the support of his parents - especially his mom. You can read articles about coaches who talk about Mrs. Lin. How she came to games early to study the opponents numbers and so on. Mrs. Lin herself approached the opponent coach after a game and basicly bashed him "See how Jeremy played? You didnt want him!".
Besides - Jeremy is a celebrity now. Chances are - people want his best - by that I mean money. People will try to use him. So - its smart to have someone as a manager he can totally trust -> his mom and dad. Asian families stick together. Thats what makes Jeremy strong. That doesnt make him a mommas boy though.
Being 24 means you can gamble, drink, smoke, sign contracts and so on. It doesnt mean you have all the wisdom in the world.
You all are misinformed.
DeleteI have it on a reputable source (TMZ...I mean ESPN) that JLin is doing the "Pick and Roll" with Kim Kardashian AND her sisters every night. ;-)
And we all know how well JLin excels in the pick and roll.
Jeremy Lin plays better defense on the court than off it.
DeleteTypical Chinese/Taiwanese family. Not only is the Tiger Mom stereotype real, but so is the Tiger Wife, Tiger Girlfriend, etc. I have never met more controlling type-A dictator women than among Chinese/Taiwan women...
ReplyDeleteAlthough I'm not affected in any way by your statement, I'm pretty sure its wrong to label them as dictator women. There may be some but you should be careful in your words since many will take offense to your stereotype. I cannot speak for them since I don't really know a lot about their culture but I'm pretty sure somebody here will be offended in your statement.
Delete@ Anonymous
DeleteBut you've not met ALL Chinese/ Taiwanese women.
Best not to generalize.
not all Taiwanese/Chinese women are like that and is wrong to generalize. But Jeremy's mom is way too controlling.
DeleteI had two brutally violent Tiger Moms in my family with my mother and grandmother, so I know what a Tiger Mom is more than ANYONE.
DeleteJeremy Lin's mom is a huffy gentle domestic cat in comparison. Lin would not be as great as he is if she were hurting him. Lin NEEDS her protective support, even if it offends people that want a piece of him.
The vast majority of Asian moms aren't like my two Tiger Moms that broke yardsticks on my 6 year old back for bringing home bad grades. I don't care how big and tough you are, it HURTS when somebody breaks a yardstick over your back! And I was so inured to constant physical punishment that my Tiger Moms gave up on using yardsticks because they broke too many of them on me!
Today my many detractors correctly call me insane. I agree with them completely!!'
mama lin, the JLin brand executive
DeleteBetter Mama Lin than CAA.
DeleteThe Lin family has handled Lin well. They are keeping him grounded so that he doesn't get corrupted by the fame and fortune. Yet Lin gets to live his own life.
At least Mrs. Lin doesn't cut his steak for him the way Mrs. Rubio cuts Ricky's!
@ # 1 j
DeleteYeah, thought KHuang was joking. Who does that to their son in front of other people?! [& an employer to boot!] smh
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Deletejust search for the first line (such as "http://instagram.com/p/OyTgyHAho8/"), don't include the 2nd line
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DeleteOh yeah, just use the 1st line. :)
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JLin back in Taiwan
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Fans unable to interact with JLin, disappointed
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Linsanity hits Taiwan again as Jeremy Lin returns
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JLin Taiwan schedule
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JLin whizzed through airport, press observations
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Deletehis elder brother is also in this video
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I hope the press and fans alike realise the chaotic condition in he airport and Jeremy was almost trip but manage to regain his composure. Some fans was questioning why the super star like Tome Cruise was more approachable and welcome the close proximity with his fans, but JLIN choose a quick exit. Let me give you an idea why:
Delete1) Amid all the rush of the fans and press with equipment, accident might happen
2) Tom Cruise is a veteran in showbiz and JLIN breakout this Feb, so don't expect him to adapt to he limelight in a short span of time.
Indeed he does understand od the lost of privacy and he has to learn to embrace it. Give him some time to do so.
Tom Cruise doesn't have to train as hard as Lin does.
DeleteIn Tom Cruise's movies, he only faces double teams when going against Asian guys he knows he's gonna win against because he's the token white guy there to singlehandedly impregnate every hot Asian female who's so oppressed by native Asian men like ME!
I don't need a double team to cut Tom Cruise down with a real sword in real life, though he's definitely get more Asian chicks than I as an Asian American would!
does anyone know who Lin's trainer, who follows him anywhere, is? and his background? Thx.
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DeleteThere may be 4: EJ Costello (or someone) for regular personal training; Doc. Scheppler JL's shooting coach ("No regular number, try to cover all shots, usually about 500 per day. That include FT's.");Wagner (or someone)from Sparta Performance (building up specific leg strength to relieve joints) Kenny Atkinson (or someone) working on sets in the lane.
Thanks, blue7053.
DeleteI should be more specific: I was referring to the person in this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS2QiySGvKI, which was provided by via wong earlier today), he was walking next to Lin (and sometimes used ipad to block flashing light).
During Feb.'s NYK-Lakers game, he sat next to mama Lin.
Hey HY,
DeleteIt looks like JL's Asian agent (I think it's a long time friend) He was in the van with JL at K11 arrival in HK.
I've just been told that his Asian agent is a Harvard classmate......Talk about 'who does he travel with'.
Delete@ HY
DeleteJosh Fan.
Lin's interview on CCTV (China's official broadcast station)
ReplyDeleteGo to http://tv.cntv.cn/live/cctv1 > Click 22:36 看見 on 26/8
Nice interview, show the v. competitive side of Lin
& you can even see Lin's parents' tears..
This is a very touching segment. Nothing new "news" but make Lin look a lot personable. The most interesting aspect of the whole thing is that Lin probably talked about God multiple times in this interview but they managed to edit them all out. Even when in the end the host read a verse from Bible, but instead of saying it's from Bible, she said it's Lin's motto. Lol. Well done. Only time didn't even hear Lin say a single word like God, Christ or Bible in a Lin interview!!
DeleteAlso available on youtube now
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I am kind of surprised when Lin said "For me, winning is normal... So if I don't win, sth is wrong"
I don't think Lin's that humble as he always seems to present himself. He wants to play the game the right way but he is not free of ego. Actually all pro players need a certain degree of ego to achieve where they are. Ego is good in pro sports. Jordan probably had the biggest ego of all time and that's what took him to the best as well.
DeleteLin has the cockiest swagger I've ever seen in an NBA player.
DeleteHis interviewing is "aw shucks I don't speak great", but on the court he is out to Limbarrass people.
Another reason I compare Lin to Micheal Ray Richardson is how Richardson would strut onto the court and start bullying opponents. Once when the Richardson's Nets came into MSG to play Patrick Ewing's Knicks, Buck Williams dunked on Ewing. Then Richardson dunked on Ewing. Richardson grabbed Ewing's arm so that Ewing couldn't get away and screamed at him "We kicking' yo ass!!!"
Lin is just as punky as Richardson. Whether it's the Utah fortune cookie green tongue or the scream after dunking in John Wall or violently swatting Derrick Rose's shot or bouncing up to challenge George Hill after a hit, Lin is Richardson all over again without the curse words and stutter!
Hi ANY,
Deletethis is the best interview of Jeremy I've ever seen. Who is the woman interviewing him?
The lady's name is Chai Jin and one of the much renown talk show host for CCTV. I like the indept questions she was asking but carefully not to bring up sensitive issue, his religion.
DeleteJLin is NO LAMB.
DeleteWhat people misunderstand as 'timidity' is really him trying to build Christian character, disciplining himself. It's self-control.
Yes. Another interview by CCTV (對話) is coming soon. I hope it could be as meaningful as this one.
DeleteAnd to Cara, I know Jeremy is a v proud person. I m just surprised he actually spoke out loud and on a PRC TV program...
Finally, though a lot of ppl criticize Lin's PR team regrading the arrangement, I think their choice of activities/ programs were not bad (except that variety show). Quite some Chinese, who previously dislike Lin because of ABC or Taiwanese reason, changed their mind after the interview. His preservence and wisdom captured a lot of hearts.
@Michelle Wong:
DeleteThanks..I KNEW she was someone! Author, director, top 10 interviewer over the years..!She is so competent she stands out a mile!
One of my (and my friends) complaints is the casual little fat kid asking him the size of his hands while the 8 yr old's ask him what he likes to eat.
There are rumours that this is a tax gimmick, that he is American w/Chinese face, and the only way to get rid of those type of rumours is by really excellent interviews. And she did it.
again...thanks.
It is unusual for Jeremy Lin to not mentioning God; however, it is not usual for China media to have censorship.
Deletereally wish they wouldn't edit out all the religious stuff because a christian is first and foremost who he is. taking away that stuff just reduces him to a shell of himself. it's like eating a burger without the meat. the buns could taste pretty good, no doubt, but you don't know what you're missing until you've had the meat. it's still a decent interview but unfortunately could've been that much more insightful.
Deletequestion for y'all - if you were jeremy and knew that they (the communist media) would continue to edit out stuff that's important to you, would you keep doing these interviews? i guess it's either that or nothing so at least you're getting into people's ears...
From his testimony, JLin seemed to have yet grown more mature in Christ after Linsanity.
ReplyDeleteHe listed the 13 things that had to happen for Linsanity to happen, which by themselves could be coincidences, but taken together shows him that the story behind Linsanity is nothing short of God's miracle. God's fingerprints were all over his story.
One thing I thought was quite interesting was when JLin mentioned a guy who took up a spot in his dream college and also a spot on the team who at the time JLin's agent thought was most likely to draft him, but they eventually became great friends and back court teammates. They must have had great fun joking about this last year!
He reflected on how he became concerned about maintaining stats, wins, and popularity. This lead to pressure to perform even better the next game. His personality is such that he puts even greater and additional pressure on himself. He has found relief by deciding to play only for God.
One surprising thing for me is JLin talking about how the perks of becoming a global icon initially had him smiling all the time and everywhere he went, but as Linsanity wore on eventually left him feeling empty. I personally did not consider the possibility that JLin would be left feeling depressed because of the perks that came with Linsanity.
JLin used the story of the Samaritan woman drawing water out of the well and how he was like that woman, initially and temporarily quenched by the water of the well, but not finding lasting joy.
The overall talk was lighthearted and personal, showing an even more approachable side to JLin,
I expect and certainly hope that he will be giving more talks like these back in the US!
@ wilsc
Delete"One surprising thing for me is JLin talking about how the perks of becoming a global icon initially had him smiling all the time and everywhere he went, but as Linsanity wore on eventually left him feeling empty. I personally did not consider the possibility that JLin would be left feeling depressed because of the perks that came with Linsanity."
Perhaps it's Hedonic Adaptation? The highs will taper off after cresting, while expectations rises.
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DeleteI don't know much about Hedonic Adaptation, but reading up a bit on wiki, it is an explanation for JLin's experience, especially Heady's conclusions. The premise that people have happiness set points that they revert back, and that this set point is determined by genetics is interesting. Intuition would tell me that this set point can change throughout a person's life and is determined by more than genetics.
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Deletehi wilsc, where do you get Jeremy's testimony in Hong Kong? Trying to find the link....
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DeleteI've been thinking, Hedonic Adaptation as an explanation bothers me. It's not Nature OR Nurture, but Nature AND Nurture. Further studies on Epigenetics will surely belie the belief that we are genetically set at birth.
I think we have to look at what Linsanity is. Aside from financial safety for his family, & a certain satisfaction in conquering obstacles, the concurrent circus that came with it, the loss of privacy, the aggressive media/ fans must have been draining.
As for the perks, novelty wears off & saturation robs us of the subtle pleasures. The ever cresting highs set us up to even higher expectations, [& of course the lows of ever-elusive satisfaction.]
Another thing to consider is the loss of Authenticity. People kissing your a** all day, telling you good things only [afraid to lose your favor.] People anticipating your thoughts, parroting them, it would be like living in an echo chamber. Whether they are lionizing/ or bashing, they are interacting, smiling, talking with Linsanity, not JLin. It would get lonely & alienating, I'd think.
& The disappointment [in people, in material comforts] when you finally realize the cool things you've longed for, are not what they're cracked up to be [AKA "Is this IT?"]
I'm glad he found his Joy back. :)
I think JLin definitely felt the "ever-elusive satisfaction."
DeleteHe talked about how now that he has a certain degree of recognition he wanted more. JLin mentioned how he was the person who during multiple times found himself arguing in the rain with security about being a Knicks player and after Linsanity became the toast of the town and the most famous person in New York at the time. The novelty wore off after a while, and he longed for more. He wants to win an NBA championship now. And after the first, he could imagine himself wanting a second, a third. He imagined the joys of this world wearing off just as quickly as his joys from Linsanity. It was like how people found joy from partying, drinking, and having sex each week, and then wanting more the next week when the joy wore off. He concluded that only living water brings consistent joy.
I see no reason why Jeremy Lin cannot RAISE his game amidst all the throngs of adoring fans like me.
ReplyDeleteMichael Jordan sequestered himself with his family and basketball. He had a laser like focus that Jeremy Lin is developing.
For great players like Lin and Jordan, playing NBA basketball is the ESCAPE from the paparazzi and fans!
I don't think Jordan took his entire summer off. He did drink and gamble but Jordon knew his limit and controlled it pretty well. No one could be prefect under such pressure Jordan was. In fact, I don't think people should expect perfectness from Lin as many people seem to like to do these days. No smoking, no drinking, no gambling, even no dating girls, only practicing all day long. This is NOT life!
DeleteAlso, people expect Lin to be humble, ego free, endearing, funny, smart, handsome, a winner, basically do and talk every single thing right. Lol. He's not God or Superman. No one could be this prefect and people could have expectation on his on court performance, but shoud not expect too much on every other part of his life.
DeleteMichael Jordan comes from a solid and stable middle class family. He grew up in a loving and stable home environment.
DeleteJordan is not perfect, and he's made his share of superstar mistakes. When his father James was killed at that rest stop in a random act of violence, that broke Jordan more than we know.
Lin and Jordan have more in common than they have differences.
Who expects him not to drink, smoke, gamble but to be a perfect player?
DeleteJeremys former roomate said that Jeremy used to be a moddest drinker. He is also not asexual. He used to date girls back in college - there is at least one report of that :) He was also seen clubbing with Fields, Harrellson and Jordan after the Knicks got knocked out of playoffs. According to the reports Lin was seen drinking and mingling with MODELS. Its not a question of if but when he is supposed to have fun.
You and me - we can have fun whenever we want to. Prof athletes with multimillion dollar contracts should know when they are supposed to have fun and when not. Showing up at a game hungover is a no go.
People here are just expecting him to peform on the court. I think that is a reasonable expectation. Anyway - JLin really doesnt seem to be an idiot. He is making big money :) - therefor he should work hard and have disciplin. Lets say he plays basketball for 10 years. Is it too late to have fun at the age of 34 - with millions and millions of dollars in his pockets?
As long as he keeps playing good I wouldnt mind seing videos of him on the floor on his own vomit whilst trying to eat a burger. I wouldnt even mind if he ends up drunk and trashing hotel rooms - filled with hxxkers. I would still be a JLin fan :)
All he needs to do is play bball the way he does.
I don't think you could criticize how Jordan lived his life. He's not prefect, no one is for that matter, but he's a success and he created his own success. Even you admitted that he's one of the hardest workers around and was a professional while at working time and that's the only thing that matters. You don't need to see Jordan as a prefect role model of life but he sure is a role model of bball and sports and generally how to do your work in life. And about the disrespect part, I see zero problem with that. That's his movitation and it worked! Even a person like Lin admitted he used Kobe's harmless "I don't know about him" to be fired up. That's how sports especially pro sports work, you mike the slightest disrespect to movitate in such a long season and long career. Otherwise what and where are the reasons to want to win again and again?
DeleteJordan didn't consume the game. The game consumed Jordan.
DeleteLet's hope that Lin can ride the wave but not get sucked to the bottom of the ocean.
The double edged sword of being Asian American in the NBA is that Jeremy "Lin" gets mobbed and pressured and financed while Jeremy "Lynn" has a lower profile but not the career earnings and accolades.
I would like JLin to learn how to drink moderately, not teetotal.
DeleteIn his situation, he'll have to drink sometimes when bonding with his mates. He can't forever be drinking water, or hanging onto a bud lite for dear life.
It'll be nice if after a night of clubbing , he wouldn't have to wake up & feel bad reading about how he was acting 'like a frat boy.' etc.
The women who will be coming up to him now will also be far from his devout-Christian gf at Harvard. It will be all types, nice girls, no-name hos to supermodels, all with their own motives. His fame [& now money] attracts it. Aspiring baby-mamas will be circling.
He needs to know how to hold his liquor. Better be careful than sorry.
http://www.nypost.com/p/pagesix/lin_fast_break_into_clubbing_cJPHXDYZPPDEV2mgDN7jII
DeleteUsually the best player is not necessarily the best person or best role model. See Lebron James, Kobe Bryant, Tiger Woods. The bball fan side of me would like to see Lin try to be the best player he could be rather than the best role model. If he comes off as a jerk rather than a humble boy, do be it. Ultimately, winners are always most beloved and endearing, not the most humble, not the best role model. If by any chance, Carmelo Anthony wins a championship in NY, he would be immortal too. Of course it would great to be both. I just think too many people (maybe fangirls lol) focus and expect too much out of Lin as a person rather than a player.
DeleteL'd like to see Jeremy be as successful as Roger Federer in his professional sports career and personal life.
DeleteDating models, hot babes are the dreams of most men but I think all Jeremy wants is a nice, decent, intelligent christian...err, like his sister in law, maybe?
I see similarities between Jlin and Fedex. Just look at Federer, he's successful, good looking, humble, yet he's hardly seen partying and dating hot models. When he married his long-time girl friend(met at the age of 19), ppl have this to say about his relationship with his fiancee :
"Their relationship is said to be one of the most enduring in the temptation-filled world of competitive sport."
Lol. Just let Lin be himself, especially personal life wise. Expecting him to be Federer-like is too much. Getting the career part right is enough for me. Really couldn't care less about the personal life part, especially his choice of girl.
DeleteIndeed. As long as he's happy with his choice of girl, we fans here obviously have no part in his decision. :)
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ReplyDeleteSport figures face judgment, critics constantly. Is how you deal with it; let these negative feedback bring you down or turn them into fuel to motivate you to work harder, play better and most imprtantly show a positive character and spirit of soportmenship.
ReplyDeleteJeremy Lin says that he is playing for a audience of ONE (Our God Almighty). I am a Christians who is much older than JL, yet he is an inspiration to me. Godspeed Jeremy.
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