You mean besides the players the Knicks have already signed to surround him with?
The change in Lin's offer sheet made no difference to the Knicks ability to sign players. Same remaining chips before and after: Gadzuric's contract, some cash, minimum contracts.
The only change to the Knicks is a higher luxury tax in 2014-15 and no team option in 2015-2016.
The next two years are still the same, no matter how high the Rockets bid, it will be $5 mill then $5.2 mill .... then the 3rd year will be expensive.
But obviously, they're dealing with a Knicks team that signs big contracts now, and doesn't think about the future.
The owner has no vision for the future of this team. The Nets created cap space to sign D-Will and Howard. So did the Rockets and Mavs. Because they saw this opportunity coming years ago.
This Knicks team has been built to win now. They don't care about the future. They are the deepest team in the league right now and have the next 2-3 years to win a championship. After3 years a lot of money comes off the books and they rebuild.
I'm actually not a huge fan of the increased offer (that not Lin had any control over it), only because people will say that he's making $15M in the third year, and if he has a few bad games, he's going to get a big backlash. It's just unnecessary pressure that isn't going to help his game. (Like when he was playing for Keith Smart, he'd be yanked for one turnover).
Lin will learn to deal with the increased pressure. He will earn max money anyway once this contract runs out if he fulfills his potential as a superstar.
Lin is already getting a huge backlash as it is, as the doubters still think he's overrated and can't play a full game without massive turnovers and being pressured by Mario Chalmers. Beside Knicks fans who like Lin and Lin fans, a lot of people were annoyed by Linsanity for whatever reasons so he's getting that near Kobe/Lebron attention. Fans will tune in to see him succeed, others will tune it see him fail. That's just part of his player profile now.
Look, NBA is a business, so JLin found his market value and demand, so it's up to Knicks to match or let him go to Houston. I am actually hoping that Knicks will not match the signed offer, so Lin will go to Houston and start to build something there. Knicks have too much drama and players who think they are super stars but don't play like one. I am kinda impressed by Houston's upping the offer. Also, good thing the 4th year option is taken away, to put more pressure on Knicks.
@Yellow Fever exactly. People won't change their opinion of Lin one way or the other, so he might as well maximize his income while he's at it. It's just too bad that Lin fans will now be subjected to 3 seasons of Melo ball.
Linsanity has already made enough money for the Knicks and MSG .... to pay for 5 seasons worth of the luxury tax.
What would happen to MSG stock if Lin was allowed to sign elsewhere. Do you think the shareholders will hold or sell ? It's Wall Street, any bad news will lead to a sell off, however small in percentage ... will still add up to hundreds of millions of dollars. Enough said.
I'll be honest. I don't expect them to win a Championship. But they can't be any worse than the Knicks team that beat the Pacers twice and won that tight game @ Philly. That was right before Lin got hurt.
houston.sbnation.com: "According to a FOX Sports report, the Rockets asked Hakeem Olajuwon to try to recruit Dwight Howard to Houston -- and convince him to sign a long-term contract, if and when he is traded from Orlando to Houston"
I know this was talked about a few times in other threads, but if Howard goes to Houston, will it be better that Lin goes to Houston, too?
It will be interesting/exciting to see Howard and Lin pair together (Even though a lot of ppl said Houston fans hate Lin - which I can't think of a reason why).
Dwight Howard is a self acclaimed "Superstar" in the mold of Lebron and Kobe. He doesn't respect Lin's game. And there's no guarantee he will stay in Houston if he gets traded there.
Lin Signs Rockets' Offer Sheet; Knicks To Match July 14 at 5:46pm CST By Daniel Seco
5:46pm: Contrary to previous reports, the Rockets have not yet delivered the Lin offer sheet to the Knicks, reports Feigen (via Twitter).
4:18pm: The Rockets have met with Grunwald and the three-day period to match has begun, Feigen tweets.
3:39pm: In an odd twist, the Knicks seem to be playing a game of keep-away from the Rockets in an attempt to tie up their cap as long as possible, as Jonathan Feigen of the Houston Chronicle reports. The Knicks, in Las Vegas for the summer league, have refused to accept the offer sheet at their team hotel, despite a courier's attempts to reach Knicks officials by phone and at their rooms. The Rockets sent the offer sheet via FedEx to the Knicks offices in New York, but the league has said GM Glen Grunwald must receive it personally (All Twitter links). The Knicks are reportedly upset with the Rockets for increasing the third-year salary in the offer to about $14.9MM.
Lin > Felton ... no doubt about it. I wonder what Dwight Howard thinks about the possibility of playing with Jeremy Lin. They never had a chance to play against each other last year...
this is awesome. congrats to lin for all the hard work and for overcoming all the negatives and adversities thus far. and congrats to his families. this has played out so well for him. he will most likely get the best contract that he can possibly get plus be able to play for a team that will likely build around him. and the possibility of playing with the best and biggest center in the league who has a game that fits well with lin's. with melo and amare on the knicks, there is no way the knicks would go far into the playoffs let alone win a chip. lin's numbers would most likely suffer in ny but houston is just perfect. gg morey. let's hope knicks signs felton and not match lin.
I am happy to see Lin with either Houston or NY, as I am a NBA fan and not truly a fan of individual franchises.
The way the Knicks are, Jeremy Lin is poised to have a highly efficient season. He's a greyhound on a team of plodders. Lin is the only guy on the roster who can catch a pass, put the ball on the floor, and score.
In Houston, Lin will be surrounded by athletic swingmen whose best play is in the open court. There will be a lot of perimeter action until Houston's big men figure out how to play. Right now I'm not counting on Dwight Howard or Glen Davis to be playing for the Rockets.
In both cases, there will be a bit of a learnig curve for Lin as he adjusts to his surroundings and newfound solidity. If Lin scored 9 ppg and passed out 5 assists for either team with high efficiency, I would consider that a solid start.
Yeah, I wish the Rockets claimed Elton Brand, he's still a powerful shot blocker, rebounder, and midrange jump shooter. Carl Landry and Dejuan Blair are also good, but they are undersized in that position.
The best news I think is that McHale runs a lot of pick and rolls so that should make Lin look good since that's Jeremy's game. Unless, they get DHoward though, then the offense might change.
There must be some kind of NBA rule that a team cannot simply avoid receiving an offer sheet. Otherwise, they will never have to match any salaries until the start of the season. Meanwhile may or may not be holding up any Dwight Howard trade ...
I strongly believe there's a reason other than money, that Lin & Fields are willing to leave NY. Not sure what but most likely it have to do with either Woodson or Melo.
HY - Not sure what it means. I don't exactly know how the knicks would decline to match Houston's offer to Jeremy. Do they do it verbally? Do they have to do it in writing? Or do they just choose to wait?
Only reason I mention is that NY could just sit on the Rocket's offer and then match it on the last day. However, if the Knicks have decided formally to decline the offer (with the possible signing of Felton), then Lin may be a Rocket sooner than later.
It's funny how the GM could have saved the Knicks so much money if they gave Jeremy Lin and Landry Fields a contract offer to begin with.
ReplyDeletePossible, but unlikely.
DeleteHave the foresight to Jeremy Lin's market value will make the Knicks short-term recovery.
ReplyDeleteKnicks will match that offer tomorrow, guaranteed. But the question is, can they afford good players to surround him with ?
ReplyDeleteYou mean besides the players the Knicks have already signed to surround him with?
DeleteThe change in Lin's offer sheet made no difference to the Knicks ability to sign players. Same remaining chips before and after: Gadzuric's contract, some cash, minimum contracts.
The only change to the Knicks is a higher luxury tax in 2014-15 and no team option in 2015-2016.
The next two years are still the same, no matter how high the Rockets bid, it will be $5 mill then $5.2 mill .... then the 3rd year will be expensive.
DeleteBut obviously, they're dealing with a Knicks team that signs big contracts now, and doesn't think about the future.
The owner has no vision for the future of this team. The Nets created cap space to sign D-Will and Howard. So did the Rockets and Mavs. Because they saw this opportunity coming years ago.
This Knicks team has been built to win now. They don't care about the future. They are the deepest team in the league right now and have the next 2-3 years to win a championship. After3 years a lot of money comes off the books and they rebuild.
Delete@ABC Baller: it looks like your "guaranteed" is not happening.
DeleteGrun is playing hide and seek.
Even if the Knicks offered a contract first, Jeremy wasn't obligated to sign. All in all, Jeremy Lin's going to get a good amount of money. :)
ReplyDeleteJeremy Lin of the market value of more than these, Knicks in the short term will be recycled.
ReplyDeleteI'm actually not a huge fan of the increased offer (that not Lin had any control over it), only because people will say that he's making $15M in the third year, and if he has a few bad games, he's going to get a big backlash. It's just unnecessary pressure that isn't going to help his game. (Like when he was playing for Keith Smart, he'd be yanked for one turnover).
ReplyDeleteLin will learn to deal with the increased pressure. He will earn max money anyway once this contract runs out if he fulfills his potential as a superstar.
DeleteLin is already getting a huge backlash as it is, as the doubters still think he's overrated and can't play a full game without massive turnovers and being pressured by Mario Chalmers. Beside Knicks fans who like Lin and Lin fans, a lot of people were annoyed by Linsanity for whatever reasons so he's getting that near Kobe/Lebron attention. Fans will tune in to see him succeed, others will tune it see him fail. That's just part of his player profile now.
DeleteLook, NBA is a business, so JLin found his market value and demand, so it's up to Knicks to match or let him go to Houston. I am actually hoping that Knicks will not match the signed offer, so Lin will go to Houston and start to build something there. Knicks have too much drama and players who think they are super stars but don't play like one. I am kinda impressed by Houston's upping the offer. Also, good thing the 4th year option is taken away, to put more pressure on Knicks.
Delete@Yellow Fever exactly. People won't change their opinion of Lin one way or the other, so he might as well maximize his income while he's at it. It's just too bad that Lin fans will now be subjected to 3 seasons of Melo ball.
DeleteLinsanity has already made enough money for the Knicks and MSG .... to pay for 5 seasons worth of the luxury tax.
ReplyDeleteWhat would happen to MSG stock if Lin was allowed to sign elsewhere. Do you think the shareholders will hold or sell ? It's Wall Street, any bad news will lead to a sell off, however small in percentage ... will still add up to hundreds of millions of dollars. Enough said.
I'll be honest. I don't expect them to win a Championship. But they can't be any worse than the Knicks team that beat the Pacers twice and won that tight game @ Philly. That was right before Lin got hurt.
The key thing to understand in all this is that the Knicks do not use logic to make decisions.
ReplyDeleteSpeculating on what the Knicks are thinking is pointless.
Until NY matches, Lin is a Houston Rocket.
houston.sbnation.com: "According to a FOX Sports report, the Rockets asked Hakeem Olajuwon to try to recruit Dwight Howard to Houston -- and convince him to sign a long-term contract, if and when he is traded from Orlando to Houston"
DeleteI know this was talked about a few times in other threads, but if Howard goes to Houston, will it be better that Lin goes to Houston, too?
It will be interesting/exciting to see Howard and Lin pair together (Even though a lot of ppl said Houston fans hate Lin - which I can't think of a reason why).
Dwight Howard is a self acclaimed "Superstar" in the mold of Lebron and Kobe. He doesn't respect Lin's game. And there's no guarantee he will stay in Houston if he gets traded there.
DeleteGlen Grunwald is currently missing, hahahahahha @ NY!!!!
ReplyDeleteDo you really think Grunwald is avoiding the acceptance of the Rocket's offer sheet? I read the story too but sounds really bizarre.
ReplyDeleteLOL... Glen where are you? I tried calling him it goes straight to voice mail :(
ReplyDeleteLin Signs Rockets' Offer Sheet; Knicks To Match
ReplyDeleteJuly 14 at 5:46pm CST By Daniel Seco
5:46pm: Contrary to previous reports, the Rockets have not yet delivered the Lin offer sheet to the Knicks, reports Feigen (via Twitter).
4:18pm: The Rockets have met with Grunwald and the three-day period to match has begun, Feigen tweets.
3:39pm: In an odd twist, the Knicks seem to be playing a game of keep-away from the Rockets in an attempt to tie up their cap as long as possible, as Jonathan Feigen of the Houston Chronicle reports. The Knicks, in Las Vegas for the summer league, have refused to accept the offer sheet at their team hotel, despite a courier's attempts to reach Knicks officials by phone and at their rooms. The Rockets sent the offer sheet via FedEx to the Knicks offices in New York, but the league has said GM Glen Grunwald must receive it personally (All Twitter links). The Knicks are reportedly upset with the Rockets for increasing the third-year salary in the offer to about $14.9MM.
Say hi to Raymond Felton for me NY...
ReplyDeleteRaymond Felton supposedly in talks with Knicks!!! MULTIPLE reporters tweeting about this.
ReplyDeletehttp://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=1195819&start=15
Lessons Learned in the Past Year:
1) Never doubt J-Lin.
2) Never doubt KHuang.
D-12 & Linsanity in Houston????
BTW, here's a convenient twitter-aggregator to keep up with NBA rumors/news:
Deletehttp://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz1znMnxqha
The argument that Jeremy Lin can only survive under D'Antoni applies to Felton, not Lin.
DeleteFelton is a better personality and salary fit than Lin is. However Lin is the better BASKETBALL fit. Lin makes plays that Felton simply cannot do.
Thanks for the kudo, zxcvb
Lin > Felton ... no doubt about it. I wonder what Dwight Howard thinks about the possibility of playing with Jeremy Lin. They never had a chance to play against each other last year...
Deletethis is awesome. congrats to lin for all the hard work and for overcoming all the negatives and adversities thus far. and congrats to his families. this has played out so well for him. he will most likely get the best contract that he can possibly get plus be able to play for a team that will likely build around him. and the possibility of playing with the best and biggest center in the league who has a game that fits well with lin's. with melo and amare on the knicks, there is no way the knicks would go far into the playoffs let alone win a chip. lin's numbers would most likely suffer in ny but houston is just perfect. gg morey. let's hope knicks signs felton and not match lin.
ReplyDeleteI am happy to see Lin with either Houston or NY, as I am a NBA fan and not truly a fan of individual franchises.
DeleteThe way the Knicks are, Jeremy Lin is poised to have a highly efficient season. He's a greyhound on a team of plodders. Lin is the only guy on the roster who can catch a pass, put the ball on the floor, and score.
In Houston, Lin will be surrounded by athletic swingmen whose best play is in the open court. There will be a lot of perimeter action until Houston's big men figure out how to play. Right now I'm not counting on Dwight Howard or Glen Davis to be playing for the Rockets.
In both cases, there will be a bit of a learnig curve for Lin as he adjusts to his surroundings and newfound solidity. If Lin scored 9 ppg and passed out 5 assists for either team with high efficiency, I would consider that a solid start.
Yeah, I wish the Rockets claimed Elton Brand, he's still a powerful shot blocker, rebounder, and midrange jump shooter. Carl Landry and Dejuan Blair are also good, but they are undersized in that position.
DeleteThe best news I think is that McHale runs a lot of pick and rolls so that should make Lin look good since that's Jeremy's game. Unless, they get DHoward though, then the offense might change.
ReplyDeleteThere must be some kind of NBA rule that a team cannot simply avoid receiving an offer sheet. Otherwise, they will never have to match any salaries until the start of the season. Meanwhile may or may not be holding up any Dwight Howard trade ...
ReplyDeleteI strongly believe there's a reason other than money, that Lin & Fields are willing to leave NY. Not sure what but most likely it have to do with either Woodson or Melo.
ReplyDeleteLin is no longer in http://knicksnow.com/ players list!!!
ReplyDeleteSo that's final??? Lin's going to Houston?
This whole hide-and-seek / Felton thing makes me feel sick to the stomach about Knicks management.
HY - Not sure what it means. I don't exactly know how the knicks would decline to match Houston's offer to Jeremy. Do they do it verbally? Do they have to do it in writing? Or do they just choose to wait?
ReplyDeleteOnly reason I mention is that NY could just sit on the Rocket's offer and then match it on the last day. However, if the Knicks have decided formally to decline the offer (with the possible signing of Felton), then Lin may be a Rocket sooner than later.