Appearing on "The Mike Lupica Show" on ESPN New York 98.7 FM, Brown called the Knicks' decision to let Lin walk a sound business move. The former Knicks coach also said he viewed Lin as a "terrific backup" -- but not a player worthy of being paid $14.8 million in one season.
"Moreover, after defenses had the chance to read Lin’s game and make appropriate adjustments, it became clear that Lin is best-suited to be a backup on a playoff-bound team, and a starter only for a bad team (like Houston). In any event, don’t be fooled by Lin’s putting up impressive numbers for the (as presently constituted) lottery-bound Rockets."
"Lin excelled for Mike D’Antoni and he would be smart if he could ever hook up again with a coach who constantly overlooked his turnovers and allowed him to be Steve Nash with the basketball. But in the conventional half-court system Mike Woodson is running, where Lin won’t dominate the ball, he’s a bench player."
Former Knicks's coach, what else can we expect?ReplyDelete
Let them sing to Dolan tune and keep him happy with these criticms. As for us, we shall move on as what Jeremy did despite of all the dissing by the press and anti Lin; take a page from his words: he just want to play bb and doesn't care what others said about him.As for us and Rockets fans, ww should give Lin and Rockets time to develop and improve themselves in the league.
this is why he's awesome-Delete
"I don't know my potential but I want to play to that as much as I can," Lin told USA TODAY Sports by phone Thursday. "But what we will be focusing on more is the team potential, and that is where I put my stock, not just on myself.
They will not match/pay J's salary, shoot, they will not even offer him anything. But you know what is funny? They paid Larry Brown $18M not to coach the team. How is that for making sense?Delete
Classless. Totally classless.ReplyDelete
Linsanity Nation response: meh.
Well done, JLinfan#1, mark them down.ReplyDelete
We are all witnesses.
Well done, JLinfan#1, mark them down.ReplyDelete
We are all witnesses.
As long as Lin's NBA team pays him properly and develops him instead of stifling him, I am satisfied.ReplyDelete
As far as the critics go, they can say whatever they want as long as they don't try to falsify Lin's intentions or use race as an excuse to trash Lin and his fans.
I agree. Let critics say what they have to say. But don't attack Lin's character, ideology, and race.Delete
Yep. Haters are gonna hate. (And sometimes there are honestly valid differences of opinion of a player's ability. Happens with all players in all sports.) As long as Lin is treated fairly by his coach and organization, everything will be fine.Delete
Larry Brown I have no more respect for you. If you can't appreciate relentlessness and heart eat poo and drink pee. Never heard of the others so they can suck it.ReplyDelete
Well, that's what a lot of franchises and NBA players think of Larry Brown too.Delete
In my decades of watching the NBA, I.have NEVER seen Larry Brown happy anywhere. Even after he won a title with the Pistons, his behavior was so bad that they had to get rid of him.
Larry Brown was probably happiest in the ABA coaching alongside Doeg Moe.
Who cares what they said? Lin's a starter at Houston and that's what really matters. Fact > someone's claim.ReplyDelete
the sad thing is that lin will never prove these guys wrong. in their own minds. no matter what he does, no matter what happens, there will always be excuses for these people in their own line of thinking. lin puts up outstanding numbers in houston? oh, well duh, he's the only option there, and is a direct product of mchale's PG-friendly offense. if they do well and win? oh, well, his teammates are having great years. if lin were to stay in ny and have lesser stats due to more touches for melo and amare? obviously, he's just an avg PG.ReplyDelete
all lin does is prove people wrong in his life time and again, and he goes about it humbly and without defaming anyone. THAT, is why i'm his fan. over lebron. over kobe. over even jordan.
The funny thing is that while these haters are falling all over themselves to defame Jeremy, he's probably ignoring them and having the time of his life. JLin, more than anyone else, probably knows that trying to please someone who wants to hate is impossible. He's got a GM, coach, and teammates who embrace him, and he'll have more fun and positive moments in one season than the miserable haters will have in their entire lives. JLin already wins.Delete
randall obviously has no idea about the CBA rules, and his bias against lin (there are so many things based on pure speculation) is ridiculously apparent.ReplyDelete
Even I feel like beating those guys up.ReplyDelete
People are entitled to their opinion about his playing ability and I am sure JLin will prove to be a top 10 point guard in the NBA. What bothers me much more are the people calling or inferring that JLin is a untruthful.ReplyDelete
On SNY a New York Cable sport channel, sport reporter Adam Schein repeatedly call JLin a liar yesterday. I am hearing this sentiment more and more.
The yellow elephant in the room is that racists are trying hard to make Lin the ultimate villain like Asian guys typically are in Hollywood movies.Delete
The problem for the racists is that Lin KNOWS what they're up to. So he lives his squeaky clean lifestyle and rides the chartered flights off into the sunset.
That's why nobody can touch Lin, and that's why the racists get exposed.
Yeah, tantalizing like a TRAIN WRECK.ReplyDelete
No matter how talented a team is, bad chemistry from a "super stah" can blow aspirations of winning out the window.
Bynum I have some hope for, Howard I do not. He's already blown apart his Orlando Magic and is seeking to blow up additional teams.
How "dumb" can a 23 year old mega multimillionaire be?ReplyDelete
Gduh, gduh, gduh...
Lost respect for Charley Rosen as a basketball mind, he contradicts his chapters in More Than a Game that he co-wrote with Phil Jackson.ReplyDelete
I would like it to be like you said, as I like Dwight Howard as a player.ReplyDelete
However, my guess is that he's Kyle Lowry times two - double the headache, double the trade requests, double the trouble.
do something about it. racist stephen a smith outright lying and slandering is not acceptable.ReplyDelete
sign and spread it to everyone you know.
Give them a break.ReplyDelete
These are people at Forbes, their mindset forever will be about the money. what they're trying to convey is that Jeremy was "dumb" enough to walk away from near guarantee of mega-billionaire for a million dollar contract.
Money is probably one of the last considerations for Jeremy and us the die hard followers here. Just let it be, people have different priorities...
The author can't be THAT dumb.... maybe he's secretly a Lin fan and just wanted to see all the pro-Lin responses...ReplyDelete
The thing with Lin is no one has ever seen anything like him before. It's almost like they can't believe he can be this good because they've not seen anything like him. Basketball is suppose to be a black man's sport and if anyone non black excels it's an anomaly, rare to say the least. Non blacks aren't supposed to be able to do crossovers and dunk on someone they aren't suppose to look brash on the court, take the last shot from three point lines, do Jordanesque moves like look down a 7 footer and shoot a 3 pointer after dribbling between the knees. Lin is unique because he's Asian and playing like a black man in a black sport. No one has ever seen anything like that before.ReplyDelete
Jlin is going to be a transformative force in the NBA anbd in society. People are afraid of change because they like routine, and can't handle their set views being rocked. I love that Jeremy is going to be the most popular player in the NBA, and no one will be able to push him into the shadows. We are witnessing history in the making.Delete
I don't follow basketball too much. I know a bit about Bynum because I live in Southern California and catch a few Laker games on TV now and then. He's improved quite a bit these last few years but wouldn't say he's a great chemistry player.ReplyDelete
Dunno too much about Dwight's situation. I know he's a very good player but don't know the reasons behind why people call him a bad team player. So, I just googled him and found this on wiki:
[Before he was drafted in 2004, Howard said that he wanted to use his NBA career and Christian faith to "raise the name of God within the league and throughout the world".]
Reads like he's the perfect partner in crime for Lin.
As a qualifier, I really meant my previous post to be in style of tongue and cheek.ReplyDelete
I just really rather see Lin/Howard than Lin/Bynum.
Well, you can't really expect these old guard basketball people to change the way they evaluate players overnight.ReplyDelete
I hope, a few years from now, people will remember Kobe's sage words:
"The biggest thing to me is how everybody missed that," Bryant said. "They would all be fired if I was owning a team."
"I hear this stuff about how he came out of nowhere and I think it’s a load of crap. You can’t play that well and just come out of nowhere. There has to be something there and everybody missed it. So, heads would roll."
Should Kobe Bryant's head roll too for recruiting 38 year old Steve Nash when he could've gotten the 23 year old Lin for cheaper?Delete
Kobe heard the Knicks say that they will match any offer Lin gets. So why wasting time to try.
Well, the Rockets "wasted time trying" and ended up with Lin.Delete
Lin with Kobe, Gasol, Bynum? That would have been problematic even for the Thunder and Spurs and Heat.
It would be funny to see Kobe cut his own head off.
I don't think Rox "wasted time trying". They really NEED a point guard because they have none. Dragic to Suns, Lowry to Raptors aside from the need for a PG, they really wanted Jeremy. On the night that he hit that game winning 3 over the Raptors, Morey got a phone call from Les Alexander angrily asking "Why is he not a Rocket anymore?"Delete
START THE SEASON ALREADY!ReplyDelete
Nope. Football first. Then basketball.Delete
The American media builds people up--only to tear them down.ReplyDelete
That's what they do. It would be a shock if the US media didn't play this cynical game.
Charley Rosen, for example, was touting Lin as a future All-Star level player during Linsanity. Now, Rosen say he's just a decent back up.
Also, I wonder if any of these 3 guys are affiliated with Creative Artists Agency (CAA), which some people suggest was the hidden hand behind the Knicks' decision not to bring back JLin.
CAA reprsents MELO, JR Smith, as well as major officials in the New York Knicks Regime and has ties to MSG.
Mike Woodson also curiously dumped his old agent in favor of CAA when he was given the full-time Knicks job.
Even BSPN touched upon the CAA angle in their Six Degrees of Separation series on JLin.
Some of these links have been posted before but they deserve to be highlighted:
CAA: The REAL POWER behind the DEPARTURE of LIN from NY
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Here's something more about CAA and Melo.Delete
The Family: How Linsanity disrupted Carmelo Anthony's long-term vision in New York
CAA is definitely a major influence here. And Jeremy did not sign with CAA recently so he does not fit into their plan.Delete
When in doubt, let's google it. As for Larry Brown and CAA, this is an interesting theory that CAA with "World Wide Wes" as the main agent has orchestrated Kentucky and SMU (where Larry Brown is the new coach) to control the path of talented kids to NBA riches
"...My belief is that the whole Larry Brown to SMU thingy is that WWW and CAA realize that they can't continue to channel all the best talent to one single program (Kentucky), so they get other CAA clients hired at SMU (Larry Brown, Tim Jankovich, Rod Strickland) and spread the 5-star high school talent out across two programs (Kentucky and SMU). There is no better area to play the AAU influence game than the talent-rich environment of Texas AAU hoops, where the culture of corruption has never been stronger (Pastner, Jazzy Hartwell, etc...).
.. For example, WWW arranged for Michael Kidd Gilchrist to have lunch with Lebron James...when he was in 8th grade!!
Every since I've been following jlin, I have come to realize how awful the media is. Nearly everyone in the media has a bias geared at furthering their own agenda. I obviously knew this was an issue with politics, but never realized how serious of an issue this is with sports. Unfortunately, most of the US population is a bunch of mindless droids that listen to what big brother tells them. Whenever I hear the statement "Jeremy is a backup", I turn off the video I'm watching.ReplyDelete
Larry Brown is Isaiah's guy, Woodson (ex-assistant coach for Brown) is an Isaiah guy (ex-teammates at Indiana). Isaiah and Dolan are buddies. It's one big happy sick family. Carmelo is a Dolan guy..and yes I'm sure Isola has some relationship with the Dolan family somehow. Either that or Isola just wants to make a name for himself which he has.
@NTT - I'm going to sign your petition. I think we should forward it over to angryasianman and some other sites. This site will only have exposure to a limited audience.
Sports media in the USA is just a reflection of what is euphemistically called "American journalism" in general.Delete
They are all a complete fraud and joke.
The role of the American "free press" is not to report the news--but to spindoctor it and even manufacture what counts as newsworthy.
Whether that be its lies about "Weapons of Mass Destruction" in Iraq or the role of Creative Artists Agency, the American media can always be counted on to deceive and cover up reality--with Proud Amuricans willingly lapping it all up.
Rockets blog with podcast with Knicks blogger. Solid assessment of Jeremy Lin the player and explanation of the Lin phenomenon to his Rockets counterpart. Good stuff.
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A while back I made the point that people would associate Lin with Yao just because their Asian. They were burned with Yao's disappointing career, and thus would associate the two because of their race. This is why a good number of people in Houston don't like Lin signing with the Rockets. People in the US are in general not very intelligent unfortunately. They make this point in the podcast. It's not fair and I don't agree with it, but it's true for a good amount of people in Houston. They'll change their mind once Jlin shows he's a great baller and person.Delete
Yeah, they will. In the podcast, Seth made the important point that Lin wasn't just popular with Asians and Asian Americans in NY; he won over a broad spectrum of casual and non-NBA fans. He's a northern Californian suburban kid, which I imagine isn't too different than the Houston vibe.Delete
Lin is charismatic, likeable, and excellent at maintaining his image/brand, probably because it's sincere. When I made my case for Lin on the Brooklyn Nets, I pointed to his "grounded humility, meta self-awareness, and savvy public relations off the court". That will work for him in Houston as well.
We saw the Lin-Yao linking in Lin's intro press conference, too. Part of me wanted to yell out, he's a Taiwanese (Asian) AMERICAN phenom, not an Asian import, dammit! But Lin impresses me by smoothly taking ownership of his Asian appeal and association without losing himself in it. Lin knows he who is.
He was experienced as a minor celebrity already before he was a Knick and learned how to be a major celebrity as a Knick. He'll be fine dealing with Houston's fans.
Good posts, guys.Delete
I raised my black eyebrow when Lin's future teammate Kevin Martin said something about Lin and Yao being from the same background. They're from different worlds.
Asian Americans like Lin are considered "foreign" by mainstream Americans. It's just something Lin will have to combat his whole life, just like the rest of us Asian Americans do.
Lin is living the quintessential American dream.
You are absolutely right about that. Asian Americans are seen as perpetual foreigners, and somehow we are all clumped into one single group of "Asians". It's always a subtle reminder that the implication is we don't belong here thought many of us were born here or have lived here our entire lives. Jlin is going to face this moving forward again and again as Khuang mentioned. I particularly get annoyed when I hear that Jlin is only popular because of Asian/Asian American fans. I know so many non-Asians that are his fans as well.Delete
My family is half asian, my daughters are part asian, its amazing that even my kids in the past few years have gone through discrimiative comments at school. I can only imagine what JLin is going through, and to me I have been so impressed with the way he has handled himself through all of this. You could not ask for a better role model.Delete
I am not truly insulted when people think I'm a foreigner because I revere Asian countries.Delete
Jeremy Lin, on the other hand, is a different case from me. He came up in the American basketball system and paid more dues than anyone. Other basketball players in the NBA assume Lin is a privileged Chinese state import when actually Lin is the "ghetto kid" from a hoops standpoint.
Lin has successfully conquered the entire US basketball system that is overtly hostile to Asians. Nobody has the right to use his ethnicity to marginalize his historic achievements.
Racists don't like me because I've learned to open a can of WHOOPASS on them (not necessarily violent either)Delete
Asian Americans victimized by racism should stand their ground and unload their fury on their tormentors. Even in settings where its inappropriate to retaliate, measures can be taken.
Learn from Lin. He STUCK IT to the Knicks. WHOOPASS.
The only person who was affiliated with the Knicks who said anything positive about Jeremy Lin was Mike D'Antoni ... and he was fired for simply suggesting that Carmelo should be traded away.ReplyDelete
Mike D: http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/8176475/jeremy-lin-departure-surprise-mike-dantoni
Jeremy Lin is a future all star. JLin will proved all these so call expert wrong.ReplyDelete
Everything is on record.
The Christian rapper Lecrae loves Jeremy Lin moving to Houston. Jeremy Lin is a big fan of Lecrae and guess where Lecrae is from..... You guest right Houston!!!! Here is more Jeremy Lin favorite music: Free Christian Music From Lecrae, Tedashii, Trip Lee Here: http://lovemyword.blogspot.com/2012/07/free-christian-music-this-is-list-of.htmlReplyDelete
Excellent NTT! I signed your petition. When we get enough signatures, can it be forward to ESPN? Let's get it into the inbox of the highest authority there. Let's send it to the major newspapers as well.ReplyDelete
thanks! it's not my petition though. just saw it on another bball forum.Delete
Lin has a powerful strength to defeat his doubters ... Eli Manning.ReplyDelete
First, his doubters are correct - Lin does need to improve as an NBA PG. Lin said in his intro press conference that his critics are right about his present weaknesses (hurt, left hand, TOs, on-the-ball D, etc). McHale, as Woodson did before him, has pointed out Lin has a lot to learn. But McHale, also like Woodson before him, believes Lin can become very good. Where doubters like Larry Brown are wrong is not in their critique of Lin's present game, which is shared by Lin and his coach, but in capping his potential. Lin will improve his fundamentals as a PG, but he has one strength already that practically guarantees he will prove his doubters wrong.
Lin discussions are dying out on the Knicks blogs now, but an exchange today at knickerblogger.net caught my eye, comparing Lin to Eli Manning. Unlike Lin, Manning came into the NBA as a top pick, but like Lin, Manning committed some ugly TOs and had holes in his game that inflamed his critics early in his career. Despite his pedigree and draft standing, Manning didn't pass the 'eye test' either, made worse because Philip Rivers and Ben Roethlisberger did pass the 'eye test'. Manning's doubters were worse than Lin's and included veteran team leaders (Shockey, Barber).
However, early on, even while he struggled, it was apparent that Manning had a special knack for the spectacular. He won his 1st Superbowl with supremely clutch play at a point of his career when his QB fundamentals were shaky. Manning is a mature veteran now, though he still is awkward at times and sometimes commits ugly TOs. A serious gifted young player's game will be polished with coaching, mentoring, training, and experience. The special knack, however, the exceedingly rare ingredient for greatness in the clutch - that can't be taught. Manning's knack has delivered 2 improbable Superbowl wins to the Giants. Last season, Lin proved he has the knack for the spectacular, too - you don't need a large sample size to see it.
So Lin's doubters aren't wrong about the shortcomings in his present game. But they are wrong about his potential, and the fatal flaw in their assessment of Lin's future is their failure to appreciate his knack for the spectacular.
While I believe the Knicks will miss Lin's versatile game more than they realize now, they may well win just as many regular season games with Felton as they would have won with Lin. Where their choice will hurt the Knicks is when they reach the limit of the post-season past which greatness is needed. Lin won't be there to provide them the game-changing clutch play. He'll be doing it for the Rockets, instead.
Clutch performance can be overlooked or even stolen in other professions. Not in the NBA. When Lin does the spectacular and delivers improbable big wins for the Rockets, his doubters won't be able to deny him.
Check out comments 31-37:
* Manning came into the NFL (not NBA) as a top pickDelete
Well, YOUR ceiling for Lin was a "3rd guard" coming off the BENCH.Delete
No matter what you say, Lin is a STARTER.
did eric really claim lin was a 3rd guard? lmao. credibility, he does not have.Delete
Eric has been claiming that for months.Delete
He also wanted Lin to back up Steve Nash and Jason Kidd.
Eric is a HATER. Not just of Lin, but of US.
For an editor, he doesn't do his due diligence on research. How on earth did he get a job as editor? Do you all remember how Forbes, not too long ago, called Jeremy Lin One Man Economic Stimulus? I think the editor is b*tt hurt, he may have bought some MSG stocks and now those stocks are falling. Ok, that's me trying to be a smart *ss. In all seriousness, I think that Lin was good for New York. He electrified the city and brought them money, tons of them. Unfortunately, Lin's employer was not good to him. Now that he's gone, he's taking all that with him. Houston's press conference was so huge when they reintroduced him. They had it at the practice gym. As he left NY, his representatives said that it has heightened the interest of so many that if Jeremy had said yes to all of them, they will be doing it for 2 years.ReplyDelete
Here is the link if you want to read: http://blog.chron.com/ultimaterockets/2012/07/linsanity-reaches-new-heights-as-rockets-introduce-their-new-star/
So no, you can disregard that sorry excuse for an article because well, it's completely untrue.
Will discontinue my Forbes subscription when it's due for renewal next round. period.ReplyDelete
I am quite saddened by the comments posted by some anti on Jeremy's FB page; full of profanity and racist remarks and insinuation of being a traitor to the Knicks. Whether these comments were made by KNICKS fans or just some racists to put oil over the flame, I pity them for their narrow minded and immaturity.ReplyDelete
Well, that's garden variety typical for what Asian American males face daily.Delete
Confronted with thay stuff in life, I get MEAN. I never back down because its my survival at stake.
In my adult life, I make sure I directly address every racial conflict no matter how small. It's how I sleep well at night.
Yeah, that's right. Stop reading into negative attacks against Lin. They are actually the minority. The majority of NY fans are pro-Lin and some are anti-Dolan.Delete
Read the more positive, supportive messages ... like this.
I am 'moving' on with Lin to Rockets. Sweet talk my.friends to switch the cable vision subscription for next season onwards.Delete