PUNK'D!Some guy called MKwong on bleacherreport described in a way that made it all clear to me:1. Morey and the Rockets put out a lowball offer they knew the Knicks would match. 2. The Knicks proclaim matching. They sign tons of guys based on what they'd figure Lin would sign for. 3. Morey counteroffers with the poison pill. The Knicks get mad because they no longer can afford Lin without killing themselves with luxury tax. 4. Jeremy Lin, Houston Rocket. According to DESIGN!
Morey is the mofuggin man. He has shown time and time again, he gets you results.Chess versus checkers.
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Yes, he gets results Eric. The teams he puts together with either "scrubs", "cheapies", "castoffs", diamond in the roughs, and pay off gambles have performed extremely well considering they are "scrubs, cheapies, castoffs, diamonds in rough, etc etc."
I knew Morey couldn't be as retarded as that first contract. This makes a bit of sense.
NBA is a business.entity.to the core, Rockets is just making a sound business call as much as Knicks has the option to match it or not. Why all the sulking and hardball!
The sulking and hardball is because the Knicks know they got BAMBOOZLED. They lost their two best guards, their two 2nd year big men, their backup combo guard, and two draft picks. They lost out on their projected starting point guard (Nash) and their projected backup minimum wage point guard (Lin). In return, the Knicks get a wife beater/DWI 39 year old, a malcontent PG who couldn't get it done on a stacked Portland team, and an old backup center. I'd be mad too if I was snookered like that.
Jason Kidd arrested for DWI. Wow. I told y'all Knicks are too much drama.
Maybe he got drunk and crashed his car because he knew the Knicks are not serious about making their team better with Lin as a starting point guard.I would take it hard too... especially since he said he went to New York hoping to be a mentor.
Maybe he thought, "let me show Lin I can DUI and no one cares, but you get Asian glow and everyone hates you."
Why the heck didn't Jason Kidd's wife and friends stop him from leaving that party to drive drunk?Do they really care THAT LITTLE about Kidd?
KHuang:Wife didn't wanna be bitch-slapped for 'expressing' her care, perhaps...
I like Kidd because he speaks his mind but unfortunately we have no idea what is really running thru a person mind. DWI 2 days after he signed the contract with Knicks? Well, Dolan.can pay off the fine for Kidd and sweep it under the rug.
Here are some incredible statistics:Lin scored the 3rd most points per isolation play, behind only Chris Paul and Harden.Lin was 3rd in FG% for jumpers off the dribble, behind only Curry and Nash.http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/47791/felton-over-lin-are-the-knicks-lin-sane
I've been saying since February that Jeremy Lin could not be stopped without a double team. Most of us here don't need those fancy statistics to confirm what appears blatantly obvious: Lin is a DOMINANT NBA guard. Next season, I expect Lin to be the single most defended player in the entire NBA. Jordan rules, box and one, man and a half zone, battalions of top defenders, flagrant fouls, everything. All that'll do is make Lin even more savvy at overcoming NBA defenses. There likely will come a point when Lin does what I saw Oscar Robertson do in an interview when asked about what defenses he faced: SHRUG. Big O was like "Oh whatever, I played against every type of defense". A dominant answer from a dominant player.
As long as Lin's teammates don't get butt hurt of Lin's spotlight and ball handling..... keep moving/cutting/spotting up for shots.... the defenses have no chance. Lin will find them. Oh yeah, and they have to CATCH THE DAMN BALL. How many times a game did we see players bobble or miss Lin's pass and give Lin an undeserved TO.But if the offense goes stagnant and people start walking/pouting to spots like in NY... Jeremy Lin will be EXPOSED AGAIN.... to how toxic his teammates are.
I'm pretty sure Kevin McHale would bench anybody who deliberately tried to sabotage the team, just like he did with the petulant Kyle Lowry. Houston doesn't have any known attitude problems at this point.
Carmelo publicly disses Lin: "It's up to the organization to say they want to match that ridiculous contract that's out there."That's pretty low. You don't make disparaging comments about your teammates' contract situations.
Lin is not Melo's teammate!Bwahahaha!
Former teammates or not, you should never diss another player contract at all. Jeremy is better in Houston..
Melo's whole career has been ridiculously hyped and overpaid.
It'll suck if the Nyk match & JLin will have to come back to...that.
Very unprofessional of him.
Like Lin always does in his career, he's to prove himself over and over. I am glad he will in Houston instead of in NY facing Melo.
Indeed. Hope Knicks won't make a U turn and match the offer. With a team mate like Melo, anyone doom eventually. It is very unprofessional of him to make such sweeping comment about Lin paycheck, he stoop too low.
Melo deserves no respect. He is the one who is overrated.
Melo will battle his teammates such as stoudmeier and chandler for certain. Just watch.
Everything is still unknown.
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/8168185/2012-nba-free-agency-new-york-knicks-match-jeremy-lin-houston-rockets-offer-sheet-source-saysLOL, there goes Stephen A Smith... obviously trying to take an unbiased stance, but towards the end you can tell by his tone of voice that he [still] thinks Lin is overrated and also that he *should* have taken the risk [to further injury] to play in round 1 against the Miami Heat. Hmmm, risk a potentially career-ending injury as a new player? Lin is smarter than that.
I don't get why the Knicks and the media are angry that Jeremy is not "grateful" and "reneged" on the first contract that Houston put out there.I thought the whole idea for the Knicks is to let the market set Jeremy's value. Now that the market determined his value, they're angry because it's too high?But this Jason Kidd's DUI development might throw another curveball. The Knicks might want to keep Jeremy for a reliable PG and to mentor Jason on off-court issues :D
LOL SERIOUSLY, IT'S JUST BUSINESS ISN'T NYK? They were the ones who instead of shooting an offer out the gate and showing love, said, "nah....... go ahead and test the market..."
"I thought the whole idea for the Knicks is to let the market set Jeremy's value. Now that the market determined his value, they're angry because it's too high?"Yes. The Houston contract was already written about as a possible scenario 4 weeks ago. The Knicks could have offered Lin 4 years/$24M, but they probably thought that the market was below that. That's why they didn't even give the token offer, because they didn't want to set the market too high. The Knicks greed came back to haunt them.http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/early_bird_eS4VrDDnIcd2O0aXVNH1kMhttp://www.nj.com/knicks/index.ssf/2012/06/knicks_links_issues_remain_aft.html
Lin originally had 4 years @ 28 with team option on the 4th. Roughly 5 5 9 9.... but really only 5 5 9 because of the team option.I think Lin would have been really tempted, with the right love (at least from the NYK), 4 years @ 24 straight.... and all the endorsements/opportunities and love (NYcity minus all the haters there... still lots of love and Asians haha) a world class city like NY can provide.But the Knicks wanted to play the game and play Lin, so 15 million it is~!
The Knicks are like Corporate America in general. They run their mouths about "letting the market decide" when it serves their interest.But when the market decides and goes against their wishes, they suddenly throw a petulant hissy fit like no other. The media and New York are sounding like spoiled little hypocrites.All this talk about "loyalty" is nonsense coming from corporate entities like ESPN, MSG, or the New York Knicks.Like America in general, the NBA is all about business.The Market Has Decided.Deal with it. And shut the hell up.
Er, Knicks is more like a dysfunctional version of corporate america.Any decent company would have signed him outright. The board of directors of said company would have been like:chairman: shall we retain lin? What has he accomplished?board member1: well we sold a TON of jersies, it makes Melo/STAT merchandize look stupid in comparison...Heck he was the hottest seller in the entire leaguetreasurer: our revenue increased by 200%board member3: his demand helped us resolve a long standing issue with time warnerboard member4: well our market cap increase by 40% thanks to him, our stock is now actually in demand by several large portfolio managerschairman: well he's asking for 25m for 3 yearstreasurer: he made us 120m this year, if he even averages 60m/year we project to profit 700% from his salary, 350% average minus any tax hits in 3rd yearchairman: ok this is a no brainer, all those in favor say ayeboard: Hell freaking aye!!!
Loyalty? What was his earning last season? 700 k plus right but he plays like a star and showing appreciation and credits to his team and team mates for the wins but put the blames on himself if the team loses games. Now Knicks decides to let market dictate his value but whole saga is evolving and snowballing Dolan is throwing tantrums like a 5 yrs old.
Imagine the scenario if Kidd got jail time for DWI (can be upto 1 year)...With things unfolding and remarks thrown around ... just shows how dysfunctional the Knicks management and some players are and again how some sports reporters are plain doubters of Lin. Knicks management has not been sincere with Lin anyway. I agree with #1j above, if they were really sure they wanted Lin they would've made him an offer instead of having him test the market. Haven't they shown us that they are expert at shooting themselves in the foot?
He got charged with a misdemeanor. He's gonna do community service and get off free basically.
Anti Asian double standard here:Jeremy Lin signs the Houston Rockets offer sheet. Racist media and fans flame him for being disloyal and a bad basketball player. Even Carmelo Anthony and JR Smith are criticizing Lin in the papers. Jason Kidd commits an actual CRIME, which is not the first time he has been charged. He was so drunk partying that he was barely able to stand up. His wife somehow leaves him at the party and none of the revelers thinks about giving him a ride home. UTTER SILENCE from the press. Jeremy Lin goes out and has a season ending party with teammates. He gets criticized in the media for being drunk and is hated on by fans for the party. No crime, no drunkenness, no lewd behavior, no wifebeating. I'm sick of the BASH THE ASIAN BOY garbage. That's a big reason why I left racist New York years ago.
Jeremy Lin looks at people funny with his slanted eyes that's why.LOLI don't know about living there (NYC), but man it was a great place to visit. Something for everybody.
On Anti Asian double standard:On the one hand, they say "He's Goose [fr Top Gun,] you know, he's all for the team, but you don't wanna have sex with him." [laughter]On the other, "Oh noes! Drinking! Talking to pretty girls! In tight dresses!"Meanwhile, Landry's [a very vocal Christian] knocking back shots & cavorting around, & no one blinks an eye.Apparently, JLin is supposed to be some kind of Super Sidekick Asexual Monk or something...
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/sam_amick/07/15/jeremy-lin-rockets-knicks-free-agency/index.html?eref=sircrcFELTON SIGNED WITH THE UNDERSTANDING LIN WAS GONE."... it's worth noting that Felton's camp did his deal with the understanding that Lin was not likely to be retained...."SMITH HAS CONCEDED LIN IS GONE. SO HAS MELO.... THEY ALSO CONFIRM (again) THE TOXIC LOCKER ROOM HATERS LIN HAS ON HIS OWN TEAM." As Anthony's comments would suggest, there could be concerns among the Knicks about Lin's contract and how it would be perceived by his teammates as well.""In an interview with SI.com on Sunday, Smith spoke as if Lin would not return to New York. The Knicks, however, have not indicated that they made a decision as yet. Asked if Lin's contract could cause a challenging dynamic with his teammates, Smith agreed."Without a doubt," he said. "I think some guys take it personal, because they've been doing it longer and haven't received any reward for it yet. I think it's a tough subject to touch on for a lot of guys."SO THERE YOU HAVE IT.
So seniority rules? LOL I am so glad I work for a company that values skills, contribution, and hard work more than the length of time employed, this is so union mentality its not even funny.Smith is a non factor, he's inconsistent at best, absolutely debilitating to a team's offense at worst, its no wonder he's jealous of Lin, because he just doesn't compare on any level, except being in the league longer...
You can just sense the jealousy fomenting within the ranks. As if they would pass up the chance to charge the max that the market would bear. Now suddenly, talks of tenure blahblahblah.
Love Houston....way better organization with an owner that is 1000 times better than Dolan. Morey is a first class gm.... Even if Rockets suck next year, they'll be back. Houston won BIG....the Asian fans, Christian fans, and anyone who likes a nice guy superstar will now all be watching the rockets..Lovin this and I'm not even a rockets fan.
Yeah, maybe Lin can go on another season ending dinner with Josh Harrelson and not get flamed in the media for it. I hate the racist media that hates Asian American males.
Like it or not. Racism is always there. We just have to outperform and kick butts along the way!
That's the mystery in the Knicks reaction over the balloon payment. Did the Knicks actually not have a contingency plan? 3/25 isn't even the worst possibility; 4/40 guaranteed was the worst. The Knicks sent Lin out to get the best offer on the market and told him - heck, told everyone - they'd match anything. The 'poison pill' possibility was known all along. Under the CBA, other teams making offers to Lin could backload a deal up to the max after the two Gilbert Arenas provision years without the same 3rd and/or 4th year impact because their yearly salary cap impact would be the average of the total contract, whereas for the Knicks, the salary cap hit would be that year's enumerated amount. So, for the Rockets, the 3/25 has a salary cap hit of a manageable 8+ each year. For the Knicks, it's 5, 5, then the big 15. None of this was hidden. All of it was talked about openly and often.The puzzling thing is that the original 9 mil in year 3 that the Knicks were apparently happy to sign would have added luxury taxes, too. The luxury tax difference between 9 and 15 in year 3 is significant under the new CBA, but also not out of bounds given Dolan's history of paying luxury taxes for worse Knicks rosters.The going theory is that Dolan's reaction is less budget-based than personal anger over the last-minute change by the Rockets. The question is, who's Dolan pissed at? The Rockets, Lin or both? The theory goes that if Dolan is pissed off at the Rockets, but not Lin, he'll wait until the last minute out of spite to delay the Rockets negotiations for Howard, then match on Lin. (Waiting until the last minute would temporarily tie up the Rockets salary cap, but not in any really effective way; waiting all 3 days to match is normal anyway.)An alternate theory is that the Knicks were prepared to match on a poison pill contract, but now Dolan is pissed at Lin, and the Knicks will use the 3 days as a cooling off period to reconsider matching on Lin.It's easier to believe Dolan was angered by the Rockets' trick than to believe the Knicks really were caught unprepared by a possibility that was practically common knowledge.
It's easier to believe he is mad at both.
It's no secret MR. Business Grunwald has burned a lot of bridges and takes his business personal.
Dolan and Grunwald just made themselves the laughingstock of the entire NBA. They were completely outmaneuvered by the two players they thought they had landed: Steve Nash and Jeremy Lin. In the process, the Knicks were also fleeced of their other young talent! I said a few posts ago that I'd LAUGH if the Suns lost both Nash and Lin.HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!laughing so hard it hurts....
Morey - Northwestern (CS + stats) + MIT (MBA)Lin - Harvard (economics right?)VERSUSDOLAN - SUNY New Paltz(?WTF? o and apparently... from daddy Dolan too)GRUNWALD - Indiana and & MBA from who knows where. It's not anywhere big time enough for an article to ever mention.
Hey, I won't knock any school. SUNY New Paltz is a great place, as is Indiana. Some of the DUMBEST people I've seen have PhDs and/or come from Ivy League schools. Some of the SMARTEST people I know have no college degree.
If houston wanted jeremy lin so bad why didnt they do the 4/40 guarantee so the Knicks will have even BIGGER chance of not matching it. Right now its up in the air and it can go either way.
40 mil was just too much risk to go nuclear. I could live with that. Morey doesn't have the fun of giving it to Grunwald and NYK like this if they did 4/40mil
Because no team is willing to sign Jeremy Lin to a full 4-year deal. It's either for 3 years, or 3 years w/ optional 4th year. No team wants to take the long term risk, they are not fully convinced.
In an earlier post, I mentioned about the unintended consequences of a large contract, and i think there are still many. J.R Smith and Melo already are displaying some anymosity. Then I changed and wanted Lin to get more from NY. Houston made that possible by reupping the offer. The offer restored my confidence in Daryl Morey. Now which scenario would be best for Lin? I think Houston. Too much jealousy in NY. On the other hand Daryl Morey has shown he has no problems getting rid of players either when it's time for his next remodeling job on the team. However, I do think that Morey likes Lin alot as a player. It is a basketball decision and not a money decision by Houston. Plus the fact he isn't going to be stupid and lose Lin again the second time around without a fight. Getting away from the spotlight is good for Lin as well. He can just cruise under the radar and develop his game. Cruising doesn't mean not playing well. It does mean that his career will last longer in the long term. Anything that burns so fast will also burn out just as fast. Just don't want all the negativity to tarnish a young career. He should learn to pace himself for the sake of his health and career. There are many ramifications to each scenario. Hey, Lin got nothing to lose. He got nothing before, he's in Vegas, let the chips fall where they may.
Morey will definitely try to do what's best for the organization, but i don't remember reading stuff about the Rockets disrespecting their players while conducting business (trading or cutting you).And at least as long as you are in the uniform they have your back. Something NY can't even do right.
Backstabbing culture in NY.JLin once said he can't play for a coach he can't trust, & that's exactly what he's got in NY, the intrigues, the equivocations. Sharks.
The media is trying to pin all the blame on Lin by saying that it was he who told the Rockets management, that the Knicks were planning to match their first offer. Only after hearing this "Secret information", the Rockets raised the offer sheet.That's the dumbest explanation I ever heard. It was the Knicks GM who talked about matching "up to a billion dollars". And it was no secret that the first offer was not enough to frighten the Knicks GM. There were many news reports that cited the Knicks willingness to match.So really, there is no substance to these allegations that Jeremy Lin purposefully sabotaged the Knicks effort to re-sign him. The media was reporting everything that happened with details.Even the negotiations that are supposed to be "behind closed doors" are out in public for everyone to see via Twitter.
It's a demolition job.
Judging the amount of posts on this site and media attention. It looks like LINSANITY IS BACK: OFFSEASON EDITION!
Here's the bad guy question of 2012-2013:will Jeremy Lin become the most DISLIKED player in the NBA?I say yes - and BRING IT ON. I love how people hate a church attending crime avoiding 4 year graduating honor rolling historic starting stat filling ankle breaking ball stripping family loving kid playing highlight making D league busting NBA starting All star punking pg who has done everything RIGHT except for ONE THING -he Asian.
I don't identify with Lin because he's Taiwanese like me, but I identify with his being proud of being Asian. Asian is COOL, just like any other race. And we Asians can be tough too, like Lin.
No, he's a rich Asian, but let me tell you, many people love JLin -- you not gonna get all the people to love you -- that's the sign that you arrived. JLin and/or his agent outsmarted Knicks. No way JLin should return to Knicks where dysfunctional players with big egos will not look kindly upon young, rich Asian punk with a Harvard degree. Lin should thank his lucky star that Knicks will not match the offer. Knicks management probably knows the really bad locker room atmosphere it will create with JLin receiving big amount of money.
Believe me KHuang, many parents who want their kids to focus on their academics first, whether they are Asians, Jews, Caucasians, Indians, Spanish or Afro-Americans -- like the fact that JLin is in NBA. All these people who hate him without knowing all the facts are not in the majority. The fact that he gets covered a lot shows that he matters. Even if JLin doesn't become an All Star, he will go down as a legend for having inspired many Asian kids to give it a go at NBA and other professional sports -- and that they can be good in both academics and sports.
I know and agree, eb5attorney. Jeremy Lin is the most popular player in the NBA. It's not just Asians that love him. Still, Jeremy Lin's presence infuriates the basketball establishment. His ongoing excellence has made a lot of "expurts" appear dumb. Heck, even Darel Morey wrote a critical article about why the Rockets were correct to pass up on Lin (a SMOKESCREEN? Worked on ME!)Even so, Lin is making his mark on the NBA. When Lin hit that 3 against Toronto, I think Metta World Peace said that the Lakers practically fell out of their chairs in amazement.
You know I actually like JLin because he's what I aspire to be as an American. Even though I'm Asian (well people think I'm hispanic based on my looks but I digress), him being an ABC doesn't relate to me at all, I don't have any where close to his upbringing, mine was more of a rough tumble in the hood until I joined the corps...Its his will, faith, courage, and perseverance, all those qualities of the American spirit that many of us have forgotten today, all wrapped up in a package brimming with humility, that really impresses me. I started following basketball back in the late 80s, stopped in 2001, he has gotten me to be a fan again. I look forward to him taking a team to the championships, and when that happens, I'm gunna be there cheering him on.
He will be the most-disliked, AND most-liked player in the NBA. A polarizing figure. One thing's for sure, nobody's overlooking Jeremy Lin ever again.
Can someone receive a $25 mil contract and still play with a "chip on his shoulder"? I have been following Jeremy Lin for the past several years as a player, as a Christian, and as a person. JL is humble, but yet tough. Other NBA players, like Melo, think Jeremy have received an undeserving large contract. I believe JL will prove them wrong. Godspeed Jeremy!
Absolutely Lin will still play with a chip on his shoulder. If anything, Lin will be out for blood. All the media hatred and player disrespect and fan racism has turned him into a beast. The NBA will be headhunting Jeremy Lin, but he's out to Linbarrass people too. My money is on Lin.
+1 KHUANGEvery professional ball player in the league can play with a chip on their shoulder. From the waiver rejects to the superstar max contract MVPs (and many of them do or have done, Kobe? Jordan? Lebron? Shaq? KG? Pierce? All of them found some chip to push them harder.)
I'm now officially a Rockets fan, and no longer a NYK fan!
I will still root for Novak though unless Novak is raining threes against Houston and JLin. :)
Yeah, JLin, remember all middle-aged Asian males with pot bellies are looking up to you. :) We knew we could play basketball too -- if only Afro-American players would give up the ball. :) I remember when I played basketball with Afro-American kids, I couldn't show my MJ moves because they just wouldn't pass the ball. They were like black-holes, where the basketball just disappeared. :)
I've only had one experience in my entire life where a player wouldn't pass me the ball, and that was in a pickup game where this particularly guy was dunking all over people and I wasn't going to shoot a lower percentage shot. Honestly, I have never heard of African Americans not passing the ball to Asians until I started following Jeremy Lin. I don't doubt eb5 attorney's story or anybody else's either. I've always played pickup ball against guys of all colors and have always been accepted. That's been the case even when I was playing so badly that I quickly got rid of the ball as soon as I touched it. Maybe the reason I got the ball more than I wanted to was this: If everybody was scoring, I was passing and screening (usually got slammed pretty good, which I always kind of enjoyed). If one guy was scoring like crazy, I'd guard him and try to make him work even if I got lit up. If nobody could score, I'd feebly drive to the basket and throw up a layup that usually missed. I am a BAD basketball player who always knew he was bad, so I figured that I'd help my teammates win it instead of me. It sort of works.
My experience is in 1980s, so a lot of things changed probably. :)
That's my experience too, and that was in NYC. One of the greatest experiences I had was when I attended Michigan State University's summer camp for science (which I was HORRIBLE at). I stayed there one summer in the dorms. Also there was a huge summer camp for African American kids, presumably from Detroit. One day I was shooting by myself on one hoop while probably the toughest and best kid was shooting on the other. I went over there, introduced myself, and we started playing 1 on 1. Even though I was much smaller and weaker, we played a hard physical game and I barely lost. I was MAD, but not at him - myself!From that point on, I was one of THEM. I'd get into games with those guys. Nobody ever said anything racial to me, nobody ever refused to pass me the ball, and I never got picked last. I played, I got hammered, I scored, I got scored on. When I went to college, people in my dorm made fun of me for being Asian. But on the court, I'd smack some of those guys around and even block their shots despite being nearly a foot shorter. People talked way more junk at me OFF the court than on it. The guy that wouldn't pass me the ball? He was a 6'4" African American kid from Chicago that had played regularly against Juwan Howard but was unrecruited. He wad visiting a friend, but I was the one that took him to the court. With him on my team, we won like 6 games in a row before we walked off undefeated. I figured that if he could dominate like that, I needn't bother shooting. We went back to the dorm together afterwards.
Anybody aware of this petition? It shows how popular Lin is. http://www.change.org/petitions/new-york-knicks-management-keep-jeremy-lin-match-the-houston-rockets-offer
These Jeremy haters that talk about "ridiculous" contract are simply haters without business sense. In the next 2 years, Jeremy will cost only ~$5 mil per year. Although the 3rd year is high at $15 mil, it is an expiring contract that many NBA teams like. If Jeremy turn out to be great, Rockets also can renegotiate a new multi-year guarantee contract that lowers the $15 mil 3rd year. Lastly based on the Yao Ming experience, Rockets knows that if Jeremy plays well, Chinese and Asian fans will vote him into All Star. Yao Ming was the last Rockets' All Star. They are ready to Linsanity! Just look at their website that has both version of Chinese. Godspeed JL.
I don't know if JLin's contract or the much hyped 3rd year luxury tax hit is the only reason why New York may not match Houston's offer.As this excerpt from Ian O'Connor suggests, it's also personal--in particular Jim Dolan's tendency to let a personal grudge cloud his business sense:"Enraged that Lin took those assurances back to the negotiating table in Houston -- ESPNNewYork.com reported last week that Lin was pushing for more cash from Houston -- the Knicks responded by bringing back a cheaper alternative, Raymond Felton, and by telling Lin to get lost. According to a source close to the situation, Jim Dolan, a notorious grudge-holder, feels betrayed that the Harvard kid took him to school after the Knicks gave him his big shot.Never mind that the Knicks were ready to waive Lin before he went off on Deron Williams and the Nets. Never mind that the Knicks got rid of Felton when it suited their needs last year despite his loyal service under D'Antoni. Never mind that business is business in the NBA, where it's understood that management and players always cut the best deals they can cut.The Knicks are making this personal, and letting their emotions shape a decision that should be made at room temperature."Translation: Poor little Jimmy Dolan is all butt hurt that some Asian kid from Harvard schooled him in a contract negotiation. LOL.
Lin has an agent who negotiates contracts. He doesn't represent himself.
"Enraged that Lin took those assurances back to the negotiating table in Houston"What the hell does that even mean? Enraged that JLin took what assurances--that they'll match?! Everyone & their mother knew the Nyx were matching. 'Up to 1 billion dollars.' Woodson was all over media & wouldn't shut up about itUgh, scapegoating JLin. Again.
If Ian O'Conner's report on Dolan is correct, I hope Knicks don't match. That guy is crazy. And Melo and JR are unhappy with Jeremy's "ridiculous" contract. Definitely bad chemistry. Go Rockets.
Yupp. Even my neighbour'saod knew about it. It was splash across numerous reports and article
Sorry. Typo error! Is my neighbour's maid.
JR is down right cynic and nasty. He is a ball hog which make him and Melo are a match make in heaven. As for Amare, so far there is no comment from him yet but he is steering clear od this mess for sure but at least he got Felton back. Chandler and Novak are the two guys on the team that is very supportive od Jeremy and of course Shumpert is another young player to look out for, a potential All Star. Going to miss these three though.
What a pity. I liked JR Smith with Lin. Nobody has truly enjoyed playing with or coaching JR Smith. I guess his attitude indeed is the main reason. Lin and Amare would've been good under DAntoni. Unfortunately Amare was injured most of the time. Raymond Felton is a guy I won't knock. Chandler and Novak are good players and appreciate Lin's talent. I am not sure how well Novak will do without Lin. Novak even played for the Rockets, I think. I seem to recall him being a summer league and training camp star. I am nowhere near as high on Shumpert as everybody is. He had athletic talent, but he doesn't have true basketball talent. I just can't see him being anything more than the 2nd coming of Michael Pietrus: looks great in the shower but no real.GAME.
"Nobody has truly enjoyed playing with or coaching JR Smith."Woodson absolutely loves JR.
We'll see how much Woodson loves JR once JR reverts to form without Lin beside him. Let's not forget that JR wasn't wanted by Carmelo Anthony too.
Both of them now join forces in dissing Jeremy; marriage make in heaven. I hope they will enjoy each other co for the next 2 years.
It was Knickss management did all the talking:1) let Lin go out and let the market define his value2)got an offer sheet fm Rockets 28.8 mil for 4yrs (poison pill-9 mil)- acceptable and will match no matter what the amount.3)Rockets thrown a curveball of 25.1 mil for 3 yrs but the 3rd yrs is a whooping 14 mil- Knicks went berserk and Knicks GM playing hide n seek and refuse to accept the contract (childish)4) accusing Jeremy allegedly leak inside info to Rockets that Knicks will match the first offer? LOL, Knicks themselves 'announced' to rhe whole world that they will match no mattee what the amount. What a sore losers.5) Now their intention is to win now, so they bring in Felton to 'replace' Lin. But Knicks still making use of the 3 days cooling period before their announce whether to match Rockets or not, which is within their right. So far Lin have yet open his mouth to comments since the FA kick in. The media are all running like headless chicken with 'quotes', sources and 'insider information' to publish their stories. Now with the poisonous tongues of Melo and Smith wagging and ridicule Lin's backloaded contract before the 11:59 Tuesday that will conclude everything. What a dyfunctional.organisation.
well that's why he has a new agent/team, Lin should let them do the work and keep his mouth shut, lest he becomes more of a scapegoat than he already is.Besides, Dolan may just match the offer at the last possible time out of spite, so it ain't over till the fat lady sings...
In thinking about this, I'm curious if the Knicks were HOPING that teams would offer lowball contracts to Jeremy Lin (or offer NO CONTRACT AT ALL). That way, Jeremy could be brought back at a real "low price". At a low priced contract, Jeremy would be a "low risk" but "high reward" situation. They get a player who played well for a while and MIGHT become every good in the future. But they don't want to pay TOO MUCH money in case Jeremy flamed out. All in all, I'm thinking that New York wasn't as high on Jeremy as some of us outsiders would think. They loved that he brought in new fans, merchandise sales and other things. But when it came to his skills, it was back to the same question as before: "Can Jeremy Play?"
Woody "he will be our starting PG no doubt" "we will jave Jeremy back" - at what cost? You want to play for Knicks for the next 3 yrs but unwilling to offer him a decent paycheck?
If the New York Dicks have any class at all, they'll just let him walk. No need to create even more drama by matching. Unfortunately, my fear is that Dolin matches and that the hold Lin hostage. The Knocks aren't above that. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised by anything. I'm hoping for the best for Jeremy. This experience should only strengthen his resolve and build his determination even more.
Dolan is crazy by any standards and lives in his little buble and count his green backs. I just Grunwald will still has a level head on his shoulder and persue Dolan not to match the offer. He will be the laughing stock in the league for being spiteful and irrational.
If they match the offer and try some funny stuff with him, Knicks fans will not have that in their garden, is embarassing to have innee turmoil when you prime agenda is going after the Championship. Well they have Broklyn Nets to deal with at their backyard.
Well Dolan might just be that spiteful/ irrational. I wonder if they match at the 11th hour, just to stick it to the Rockets. Why was Grunwald playing hide & seek with the Rockets courier?& Yikes if they do match, looks like he'll be facing a locker room rife with jealousy. Most all his advocates within the team is gone. & After this demolition job NY media is doing on him, MSG won't be too friendly either.
I laughed when the Knicks lost Nash and got outbid for Lin, and I'll laugh even harder if the Knicks match. The players don't want Lin, the franchise doesn't think Lin is worth the money, and taking Lin on would be utter suicide in the locker room and on the luxury tax. All that for a player that the Knicks don't want?James Dolan did A TON of illegal drugs (cocaine, etc) in his younger days. If he matches, either his brain was fried by the drugs or his brain was not fried ENOUGH by the drugs!I'm not worried at all about Lin. His halo gives people bruises, and he can't be stopped without a double team.
Neither am I [worried.] The guy's a fighter, tough as nails.I have faith. Wherever he ends up, he'll be wrecking havoc, lol.
Classy Chris Paul and Carmelo making fun of Jeremy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Agc-5WCsxDU
What exactly does Paul say? I didn't get it...
They were talking about the 92 dream team which inspired them and popularized the game around the world. He said that's why Melo could call JLin his point guard but in a sort of sarcastic tone. So basically he didn't think JLin is american and he didn't think he's legit.
More racism. More LINFERNO.
That vid just giving us a peek on the privates jokes they must share about the subject.Anyway...Jared Zwerling @JaredZwerlingMelo & Chris Paul walked through media room here in Vegas & Melo said, referring to CP3, "You'll see him in NY in a couple years."(smiling).
Yao Ming speaks better English than Chris Paul.
Phil Hwang, that was COLD! I salute you. Yao has a thick Texas drawl, just like Jeremy Lin has a ghetto lisp.
Chris Paul thinks Jeremy Lin isn't American although it's hard to tell.
Yao Ming is Lin's mentor. Lin will just have to do what Yao did to Shaq when Shaq threw out racial insults: ADMINISTER A GOOD OL' CHINESE BUTT WHOOPING. Chris Paul is going to run into Linsanity. I wish Paul the best of luck.
I don't think Chris Paul knows what it means to be an American, like the 80% of Americans.
I think Lin is gone...They removed him from both knicksnow.com and nyknicksstore.com.
I think we've reached the end of the Lin in NY. I am totally ENJOYING the Linplosion. Break out the marshmallows - with chopsticks!
What a crazy couple of days.
I seriously can't wait for Rockets Vs Knicks this upcoming season.. Heck you might see the GM go at each other live on ABC, lol...
Hahaha that would be something, I bet it'll be a sell out game for sure...It would be interesting to see the fan's reaction if it was in MSG...If Rockets won and fans cheer Jeremy that would be hilarious...
It'll probably be a sea of NY Knick Lin jerseys when he comes back. So much for home court advantage.
NY City and Broadway go hand in hand. The drama continues...
Really hope that he goes over to Houston now with the crap from melo. If Houston truly is a heavy pick and roll team, it should really be good for Jeremy.melo commenting on lin's contract when he is part of the problem for the luxury tax. But it's no surprise that it was never going to work between Jeremy and melo. When melo came back from injury, on many occasions, he was trying to become a point forward again prior to Jeremy. Fans were actually calling for melo to give the ball to Jeremy, or when he tried to do iso, fan called out again for him to pass. With the big melo ego, I'm sure that he probably was pissed and blaming Jeremy for the fans not worshiping him like basketball god he think he is.The only fear now is if knicks match Jeremy's contract and hold on to him on the bench for 2 years or minimal playing time and dump him off on the 3rd year and say he can't play basketball.
I was and still am a big Carmelo Anthony fan. Until Feb 2012, I never imagined Carmelo Anthony as being anything other than the primary focus of opposing defenses on any team he played for. Even on the Olympic and World Championship teams, Carmelo was THAT GUY. Then Jeremy Lin came around. It became clear that teams focused more on stopping Lin than Carmelo. The max contract veteran All Star was upstaged by a twice waived minimum wage D league reject. The Knicks had become Jeremy Lin's team!If Lin returns to the Knicks, he'll have three new punching bags at point guard and a guaranteed contract that allows him to play without fear. He'll also get to run the 2nd unit which will be far more athletic than the rapidly aging 1st unit. And nobody will be able to stop Lin, in practice or in games. If the Knicks resign Lin, it'll continue to be Lin's team. Melo's pouting, Chris Paul's taunting, Woodson's criticizing, Grunwald's posturing, and Dolan's drugging won't change that. Ball don't lie.
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