Tuesday, July 17, 2012

It's over?

From Howard Beck's twitter:

Posting momentarily to http://t.co/7q9bU8pi: Lin will be a Rocket. Knicks deliberations over.

And here's the story: http://t.co/NENkN37p

 

93 comments:

  1. YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  2. "The Knicks have until 11:59 p.m. EDT Tuesday to match Houston... A person with direct knowledge of the process says the Rockets delivered the offer sheet to the Knicks on Saturday. But the Knicks have never officially acknowledged receiving it, so not even the Rockets are certain if New York will honor the deadline."

    My take is that Dolan felt that Houston and/or Lin violated professional courtesy/custom by revising their contract. So Dolan is now going to stick it to them by being as unprofessional as possible.

    http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2012/07/17/sports/basketball/ap-bkn-jeremy-lin.html

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    1. Violation of professional courtesy/custom?

      The Knicks management has been out-smarted. They have been exposed pretty much like S.A. Smith.

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  3. Taiwanese news animation (you know it's going to be good!)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYegztGsf38

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  4. Hahahahahaha. Wow the Knicks are really stupid. It's a free option. Stupid decision (if in fact it's over still 7 hours to go). Happy for J if he gets to go to a team that really wants him. Praise God!

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  5. Yep..no doubt in my mind that this was the plan all along. If he wanted to be a Knick, he wouldn't have even signed any offer sheet with the Rockets. This was the right decision for Jeremy and noone can blame him... The choice was either (1) dysfunctional owner, selfish teammates, racist NY press, etc, etc. or (2) the opportunity to have a team built around his unique skill set with a management team that really believes in him. I think the seeds of this fruit were planted during the whole Dantoni fiasco...Dantoni is probably rolling on the floor at how ridiculous these Knicks are.

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    1. Knicks offer: $1 million for 1 year.

      Rockets offer: $29 million for 3 years.

      $1 million <<<<<<<<<<< $29 million

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    2. yup i believe he wants out. i think it's pretty clear something was wrong inside the locker room. no surprise seeing Landry left as well. I strongly believe Melo have a lot to do with it.

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    3. @777am: Yeah in Landry's press conference today, he said his shooting got worse in his second year because "the team dynamics changed." Everyone knows he was referring to the Melo trade.

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    4. @achondroplasiaphobia,
      Therein lies the problem...Melo makes players worse whereas Lin makes players better. As @Khuang mentioned before, Lin is the rare player that elevates the play of his teammates..not many guys in the NBA can do this.

      As for Anthony, I believe he and Steve A had an agenda to run Jeremy out of town..just my own pure speculation to be honest with you. Anthony is a grade A scumback. I'm almost positive he knew that Lin was gone, and that's when he released his "I want Jeremy back and so does Dolan" crap. In addition, when asked about his relationship with Lin, he said "we have a great relationship...why don't you ask him (Lin)". Placing Lin on the hotspot and making Lin look like the bad one if he answers incorrectly is just another political ploy.

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    5. In the NBA, every player feels that he is DA MAN. That includes Lin and Anthony.

      Carmelo Anthony tries to beat people by himself. Lin attaches players to himself and then beats people with his little team. Both approaches work, depending on the individual agenda.

      Lin will be playing in Houston where he'll run into the same jealousy and incongruence problems he has everywhere else. The difference is that Lin is playing for a franchise that will stand by him.

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    7. 100 % agree with jlinisasuperhero

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  7. @JlinFan#1..can we switch over ALL Knicks links as soon as possible on this site once we are confirmed to Rockets' links? I'm tired of the Knicks

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    1. Unofficially we are Rocket fan now.

      It becomes official until 12:00 AM on July 18, 2012.

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  8. Knicks benefit: addition by subtraction

    Rockets benefit: addition by subtraction, division, multiplication, then addition.

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  9. Really hope that Dolan won't throw in the decision of re-signing Jeremy @ the 11th hour...keep my fingers crossed.

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    1. Dolan won't do that now. He would loose way to much face for that. Its over. JLin is a Rocket. btw..there is jubalation on the Rockets forums.. and you would think the world stoped turning on Knicks forums. He really does have that much effect on people..its about more than just his game.

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    2. well said, Bohdi. It's gonna be a good year in Houston! Now for part 2/2 of the master plan, Dwight Howard!

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    3. Not going to happen...oh please God..please bring Dwight to Houston...

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  10. Dolan's credibility is now ruined with every player. Anytime the knicks say 'WE WILL MATCH ANY OFFER' in the future, everyone will point back to this time and it will mean nothing in negotiations with any future player.

    Time to buy a Houston jersey. It will take time folks but at least Jeremy will be building a team and not trying to save one.

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  11. why didn't Dolan just agree to the contract and then see if by the third year he was worth keeping and amnesty him or another player? the issue was the luxury tax was it not?

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    1. Amnesty does not apply to Lin's situation.

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    2. Even the luxury tax issue could have been mitigated significantly with the "stretch provision" as explained below:

      Report: Knicks Could Avoid ‘Poison Pill’ in Lin’s Contract
      http://www.theknicksblog.com/2012/07/17/report-knicks-could-avoid-poison-pill-in-lins-contract/

      Noted capologist Larry Coon also reiterates this point about the stretch provision.

      So ... it wasn't just about finances that have seemingly caused the Knicks to dump Lin.

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  12. Jeremy Lin need to leave the knicks anyway. JLine is better off in Houston.

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  13. Getting closer to blast off! Houston here we go! You can be sure there will be many from New York getting on board!!!

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  14. Just checked - the all-star game in 2013 will be held in the Toyota Center. I have no doubt Jeremy will start at PG for the West. Can't make this stuff up. I love life.

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    1. what no way! thx for looking that up frankied2442! crazy...

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  15. We should all celebrate Dolan's Lindecision to free Jeremy soon :D

    And hopefully Dolan does not come to his business sense that the Knicks is about to lose the most precious asset for nothing. I feel bad for the Knicks fans because they had a glimpse of Linsanity and what could-have-been but such is the fate of fans of teams with irrational and meddling owner. Donnie Walsh and D'Antoni are chuckling somewhere.

    I'd like to congratulate Houston Rockets fanbase because they have fully-commited ownership and management who at least try to do the right thing for their fans and franchise.

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    1. @Psalm234 I wouldn't be singing the praises of the Rockets and Houston fanbase just yet. They don't even like Lin. He's not really wanted by the fans there. Lin will have to prove himself all over again.

      Still, it's a better situation than that toxic Knicks locker room. Houston is the lesser of two evils.

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    2. I'm sure there's a number of Houston fans that remember another particularly large Asian that burned them with a disappointing career due to injuries. If Jlin plays well which I fully expect, he will become just as beloved if not more than in New York. I guarantee it.

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    3. no worries :D It's just a matter of time for Jeremy to win over Houston fans, especially if Dwight buys into it.

      It's funny how the Knicks fans flood Houston's forum to congratulate Houston fans and swear at Dolan

      True, Houston is definitely a much better place now.

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    4. It has very little to do with Yao. They simply think Lin is overhyped. Houston fans resented Linsanity because they let him go to the Knicks for nothing, and then he cost the Rockets a higher draft pick. Houston fans also felt Dragic was better than Lin, and most of them still feel that way. It's now up to Lin to see if he can win them over.

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    5. I agree, achondroplasiaphobia.

      Lin is up to the challenge. He better earn his contract on the court.

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  16. The kniccs are stupid now cablevision can blacc out msg if they want cause idc anymore about the kniccs...eff them!!!

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    1. I totally agree. Lin made the knicks into a must watch and it was invigorating seeing him play his game. It's kinda depressing since I live in NYC but I know he'll be better off in Houston. Guess I'm gonna be watching a lot of Rockets games now. I'm officially a full fledged Brooklyn Nets fan. EFF da Knicks!!

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  17. BOOYAH!!! TOLD YAH SO!!!! WELCOME TO HOUSTON!!!!

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  18. I wouldn't be surprised if the Knicks didn't even make any announcement tonight just to further spite the Rockets and Lin by leaving them hanging.

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  19. Good riddance, I think that Jeremy will be a lot better off in the long run than trying to develop under a coach that favor's Carmelo's isolation, ignore everyone else style. I'm glad for Jeremy and will be glad for the chance to root for the Rockets again, just like I did when Yao was there!

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  20. I can't think of a better active pro head coach in the NBA for Lin than Kevin McHale.

    Coach Kevin McHale will adore Lin because Lin is like McHale's Celtics teammates Dennis Johnson and Danny Ainge fused into one guy. McHale talked glowingly about Lin last year in preseason and during Linsanity.

    McHale has another trait that will greatly benefit Lin. As a player, McHale was the biggest trash talker in the NBA. He picked fights with people, punched guys out, roasted them if they challenged him, and talked more smack than Kevin Garnett does today (guess who Garnett learned it from? MCHALE).

    So when opponents put bounties on Jeremy Lin next season, Lin will learn from his adoring coach how to RETALIATE. For Lin to become a bona fide star, McHale will have to teach him how to become the NBA's biggest and meanest point guars BULLY.

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    1. I totally agree with this, and hope you are right about Lin toughening up with Mchale as his coach. Lin needs to toughen up or his career is going be shortened due to injury. Kobe had the same problem earlier in his career.

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    2. McHale can help Jeremy Lin become a bruising power guard that bullies people on both ends.

      Lin is the Lebron James of point guards: a big overwhelming brute who overpowers the strong guys and outquicks the little guys. McHale can teach Lin to play a more physical floor game on both ends of the court.

      Jeremy Lin can easily become a player that opponents hate playing against.

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  21. I have been on rockets fans forum and they like Jeremy, so you don't have to worry about the fans in Houston.

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  23. Yep, JLin definitely will be Rockets..Knicksnow.com under Players section, you don't see his name listed several days ago..Jason Kidd and Felton's name were immediately updated!

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  24. Wow, I can see it already... Lin pick and roll bounce pass for an Omer Asik Slam! Jeremy Lin fast breaks down the court and lobs for a Jeremy Lamb Slam!

    This team is going to be fast with a lot of movement. Older teams like Boston, Lakers, Knicks won't be able to run with them. Too many lazies like Amare, KG, World Peace.

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  25. Also, don't forget the Rockets acquired Josh Harrellson and Jerome Jordon who Jeremy played very well with in the D-League.

    I dislike how people claim the Rockets have no one. It's not like the other players are just players they picked up at the local YMCA. The other players are all hometown success stories whom have yet found their identity in the professional level. They are all hungry and we will see it on the court next season.

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  26. Wow, all these teams paying big contracts for players they once let go.
    Still wishing for the Lin-Howard combo...

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  27. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDTCiLrDzFY&feature=watch_response

    Check out Jeremy Lamb lighting up the NBA Summer League just like how we saw Jeremy Lin do back in 2010!

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    1. Latrell Sprewell Round Two (no choking of coaches!)

      Even though Lamb is a terrific young.player, the physicality and athleticism of the NBA will bother him in his rookie year.

      But those MAD SKILLZ? Jeremy Lamb is NBA ready in technique alone. He'd have been a #1 overall pick had he stayed in school. Houston is VERY LUCKY to have drafted him.

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    2. Agreed. He looks like he can be at the same level as T-Mac or Kobe at their primes... Only time will tell.

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  28. This move just makes zero sense for the Knicks to let him go for nothing. How is this possible. My mind is used to bad GSW decisions but this is galactically stupid. I think J will be great in the H but I think I'll wait until the fat bumbling owner sings by 11:59 EST to let my mind stop. This is crazy! Its like a parallel universe where down is up and left is right

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    1. Really feel sorry for many of the Knicks fans especially those at Posting and Toasting(especially Seth) but it is the best move for Jeremy. New York is just too toxic. Now SAS is going to continue to do a hatchet job on Jeremy and turn Melo into some kind of saint.
      I just hope the Houston sports writers are in the Howard Beck and Will Leitch calibre, not like that SAS/ESPN drama punks.

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  29. What does Spike think of all this?

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  30. I'm really glad that Lin is now freed from NYC. I wanted him to succeed in NYC (which he did to the 10th degree last year) - because he was becoming a Ruthian/Mantle type figure with the NYC hype. If Melo wasn't there, he would own the city - pretty much did anyway last year and till now.

    But now we get to see the pre-Melo Linsanity, which is one of the most exciting things to see in all of sports. I am psyched about the return to this style of play. I totally agree with some of the other posts. He will need to learn how to play physically or at least protect himself in a safe way. JKidd nailed him in the head and he tore his meniscus on that one play. Once you have a meniscectomy, you can keep having more which is my worry (and the end result is no cartilage). If he learns how to protect himself and stay away from injury, Lin can become one of the greatest of all-time.

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    1. The most important key to Lin's survival is the guaranteed contract.

      Last season (really only a few months.ago), Lin was battling for a roster spot and league legitimacy. He played as if every game was his last, because it could've been. Plus, playing for a skeptical coach in Mike Woodson and dealing with the team mutiny led by Carmelo Anthony was extremely stressful.

      Now, Lin doesn't have to play with the fear of being waived. He has his own team, a juicy contract, and a guaranteed starting spot. If anything, that'll galvanize Lin into playing with more focus and control.

      The hits are going to come, and hard. The Rockets need some enforcers NOW.

      One guy that would be a terrific enforcer is Lin's NYC cheerleader Jared Jeffries who will probably be bought out by Portland with money given to them by the Knicks. Jared Jeffries wouldn't hesitate to strangle Carmelo Anthony again just like he did in that huge Nuggets Knicks brawl years ago.

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    2. KHuang, you hit the nail on the head again. Once Jeremy gets signed, he's good as gold. He can read the bench and still bring in the money. Either way, he's a winner.

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  31. It would be funny if someone came up with a hoax, "Dolan changes mind at the last minute, matches Rockets offer for Lin!!"

    Then it becomes front page news...

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  32. Please don't pick number 7 as your number. Why is Jeremy Lin representing China? Why join the Houston Rockets? I thought you were supposed to be Asian American!? This is so sad...

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    1. he can't represent china right? Lin's parents are from Taiwan :>

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  33. do we believe this?
    https://twitter.com/AndyRoyceBauer

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    1. NOOOOO!!! Let it not be true!!!

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    2. .......The empire strikes back...........

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    3. No way! It must be a prank!

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    4. Though I suspected that Knicks are capable of pulling such last minute twist.

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    5. haha, no. that guy's been trolling for Twitter reads/follows since yesterday.

      BTW, actual NY sports media reporting that the Knicks just confirmed they're NOT matching Lin's contract.

      ...I'm still waiting till 9pm to celebrate though!

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    6. It is not possible , it is a team with a few jealous selfish players , Lin stay stay will destroy the chemistry and create serious locker room problem .

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  34. You never know any twist is possible in this saga until midnight...Listening to ESPN radio Bill Daughtry show now...all the Knicks brass and team Lin (his agents) are in Vegas right now...I think somethings up...1.5 hours left!

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    1. makes you wonder why would Lin's agents would be in Vegas when they don't need to be???? hmmmm

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    2. It's summer league, there are other teams players and Front Office in Vegas too .... Including the Houston Rockets management.

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  35. http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/8175591/new-york-knicks-confirm-match-houston-rockets-offer-jeremy-lin

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  36. http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/8175591/new-york-knicks-confirm-match-houston-rockets-offer-jeremy-lin


    Knicks won't keep Jeremy Lin
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    The New York Knicks confirmed to ESPNNewYork.com's Ian Begley they will opt not to match the offer sheet point guard Jeremy Lin signed with Houston.


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    The Knicks had until 11:59 p.m. ET Tuesday to announce their decision whether they will match Houston's three-year, $25.1 million offer sheet or let the Rockets have Lin, who became an international phenomenon during a dazzling February.

    A team source told Begley earlier this week that the third year of the Rockets' offer -- worth $14.8 million -- caused the Knicks to consider letting Lin go. If the Knicks matched the offer, they would have been subject to a luxury tax in the third year, potentially bringing their total out-of-pocket cost for the team's salary to about $43 million in 2014-15.

    The Rockets' offer to Lin would pay him $5 million in the first year, $5.225 million in the second and $14.8 million in the third, according to sources.

    Lin, a restricted free agent, made $788,000 last season.

    Information from ESPNNewYork.com's Ian Begley was used in this report.

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  37. CONGRATS LIN! #newchapter #GoRockets!

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  38. The idiot owner has sung. I cannot believe they let him go for nothing. Not even a box of tissues. Congrats J you will be an all-star this year! Go Rockets!

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  39. Welcome to H-town for reals this time Jeremy Lin! Clutchfans are stoked...
    http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=223584&page=43

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  40. im happy that jlin is in better team now:)chris bosh is right about those praise/bash media comments youtube link here.....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCAzev7grtI

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  41. Even though I am a JLin fan, whether Knicks made the right decision all depends on how JLin fares in the future. Many good writers like Michael Rosenberg are pulling for JLin but think he may turn out to be a good back-up or a fringe starter. [I don't know if a "fringe" starter exists but . . .] I do believe in one thing though: JLin can and will make other players better If they are willing to give it a chance. Personally, despite what many people say, I do agree that JLin is not as fast as some of the PGs I have seen, especially going to his left, and his passes are too predictable, and he often appears to be hesitant shooting mid to long jumpers. All I know is JLin better improve and make other players better to gain respect among his teammates. By the way, I think he can play very well with Houston players who have something to prove.

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    1. I don't subscribe to all those "writers". They are so whishy washy flip floppety. I think he played amazing for a rookie as good as any rookie I have seen in the nba in a long time. JLin is smart, he knows this new contract and new city he's going to have alot of expectations. Everyone will be watching. I think his game will be even better.

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    2. It all depends on how Houston players react and are willing to play as a team and learn each other's strengths and weaknesses. One good thing is that Houston players have something to prove, so I think their style of play (without any one player ball hogging) will fit Lin.

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  42. It turns out that the Knicks do not deserve Lin who fell on their laps last season. Houston regreted it and fixed their mistake. Lin's career is like a drama that made people wow. Lin will shine and shine well because he's a unselfish player and basketball is a team sport. Knicks have Melo who is a poisonous player because of his style. LeBron did not do it by himself in Cleveland. Melo did not do it in Denver and he's not going to do it by himself. Guaranteed.

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  44. In 2011, Rockets made the mistake by cutting Lin last year. NY briefly reaped the benefits of Linsanity. In 2012, Rocket's will reap the benefits of Linsanity while NY makes the similar mistake.

    Can't wait for the season to start. BTW, the young studs in Houston are lighting it up in summer league. What do people think about (2) Jeremy's in the backcourt?

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