Tuesday, May 15, 2012
Where's The NY Media?
Jeremy is added to the USA Select team and not a peep out of the New York Knicks writers. All they want to write about is how JLin should take less money so they can sign free agents or what they can do to get Steve Nash or that he is out clubbing. Just imagine if Jeremy were Jimmer Fredette, how different things would be. Oh well, just more chips to add on Jeremy's shoulder.
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agreed 100%
ReplyDeleteJeremy should leaves Knicks; running not walking and let the ny media have something to write about. None of them are genuine concern about Jlin's basketball career; he will only get buried if he stay with Knicks with Woodson as coach and Melo hold the court and control the ball. Let the NY media write about that; they might be one of the reasons Jlin skip the Big Apple and choose other team.
ReplyDeleteI don't think the media considers being an Olympic practice player a big deal.
ReplyDeleteAs for the Kmicks, the plan is to sign Steve Nash and Jeremy Lin?
i personally don't think NY media will help Jeremy in the long run and in fact can just add more headaches as he will undoubtedly be ending up in more tabloid headlines. while the "Linsanity" was somewhat a of a media frenzy, it was also a phase, but the international media is the one that is still very much interested in what Jeremy's going to do. wherever he goes he will have that international media spotlight and doesn't need NY to stay relevant. NY will make him a celebrity, but the international media makes him a world wide figure.
ReplyDeleteMichelle: Woodson didn't bury Lin when Lin played for him.
ReplyDeleteThere hasn't been an official announcement. All the media reporting the Select Team roster are repeating the rumor from the same source: http://www.csnbayarea.com/05/14/12/Source-Irving-Lin-make-USA-Select-/nbcsportswarriors.html?blockID=707604&feedID=2799
The NY media do not ignore Jeremy Lin. Every time the Knicks' future is talked about, Jeremy Lin is talked about.
While the elect team is supposed to get the USA Team in shape, it sure would get them at least motivated, seeing how all the superstars have been putting extra effort in shutting down Jeremy.
ReplyDeleteand the bonus to play with the USA Team is other superstars get to appreciate his skills during scrimmage and might recruit him to play with them. Let's see LeBron and Kobe lobby him to join them!
DeleteI don't know about Miami, it seems like they have their own central pieces together. Lakers, I can imagine them failing this playoffs and look for a roster overhaul. Kobe seems to appreciate Jeremy's skills and I can see Jeremy fitting in quite well with Kobe's style; they both seem to be ultra-competitive on the court and very dedicated to succeeding and improving their games.
DeleteYes, Kobe definitely has more appreciation of Jeremy's game than LeBron after his 38-point outburst against the Lakers at the height of Linsanity. And easy to imagine how Jeremy can fit in to feed lobs to Bynum and Gasol and penetrate to the basket if necessary. But I'm not sure if Lakers are happy with their PG plays and even has the salary cap to offer Jeremy with backloaded contracts.
DeleteThey should sit Amare and Melo down to inform them that they are receiving a pay cut so they can sign other free agents.
ReplyDeleteTheir contracts are fixed, Knicks front office will have to wait until their 4th year until they can re-negotiate their huge, overpaid salaries.
DeleteYea I was aware. Just joking.
DeleteI just had a giddy thought:
ReplyDeleteLin, Dwight and D'Antoni in Brooklyn next year.
Don't care one bit about NY if Lin is not playing there. Kinda wish they throw all the money to Nash and then watch him gets injuried and out of the season in the first game. Obsessed with over the hill high salary guys. Typical old Knicks. Lol.
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DeleteYeah... it's been very difficult for me a die hard knicks fan since the 90s to root for recently, if it wasn't for Jeremy. I can't take this Melo-centric bs, where everything has to evolve around an individual. Whatever happens to "our" team instead of "my" team?
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DeleteMelo has been recognized as a great NBA scorer for years. That's how it works in NBA, all about score, stats & proven track record. They always have more confidence on the established players and seldom take chances on the young ones unless they're of the 1st draft. That's why some star players would focus on building up good personal stats rather than playing team bball & bettering teammates.
DeleteIt takes a miracle to give player like Jeremy a good chance to burst out. It only happened when no ones else in the team could function as a qualified PG & the key scorers were struggling and/or absent. Nevertheless, Linsanity hasn't changed much of the mindset in the NBA environment yet. It's still a long way to go for Jeremy, but at least he's got a hard earned position & can move on from there.
Well said!
DeleteWell said!
DeleteAnybody understands this Bird and Early Bird Rights?
ReplyDeletehttp://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-05-16/jeremy-lin-s-status-with-knicks-is-central-in-nba-union-dispute.html
It says the action is taken on behalf of Lin and other players by NBPA. If this is allowed for Lin and Novak, does it mean bigger salary or do they get screw on their pay day that they are locked to the team?
Seems like they are saying if this works, then they have more $ to get Nash. So they can now exceed the cap?
I might have found something that's clearer.
Deletehttp://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/15/sports/basketball/union-seeks-clarity-on-bird-rights-knicks-could-benefit.html?_r=1
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If Lin and Novak are determined to have so-called early-Bird rights, the Knicks could pay each one a starting salary up to the league average, about $5.3 million.
Without those rights, the Knicks could offer only small raises, unless they used a cap exception, the midlevel ($5 million) or the biannual ($1.9 million).
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So it is a good thing for Lin and Novak then.
Yeah, I think the NBA Players Union has a very strong case for seeking Bird Rights for waived players. Think about it. A player claimed off ic waivers:
Delete1. Has no choice in which team claims him. Chauncy Billups was even threatening teams not to pick him up after he was waived by the Knicks, because he was afraid of being picked up by a bad non-playoff team. He eventually went to the Clippers.
2. He still keeps his old salary structure with his new team. He does not become an unrestricted free agent.
3. Being waived is just like a Team Trade. Except instead of getting a player or draft pick in return..... The team gets to remove some salary cap space and open up a roster spot for another player. In other words, the team is trading away a player to an unknown random team, in return for cap space.
Now we know these 6 teams, let the bidding begin!
ReplyDeletehttp://www.nj.com/knicks/index.ssf/2012/05/knicks_links_nets_warriors_mav.html
Knicks, Golden State Warriors, Toronto Raptors, Dallas Mavericks, Portland Trail Blazers and the Brooklyn Nets
I like the Knicks, Mavericks, Nets if championship, longevity and player development are the main factors. Portland history of injured players scare me.
I'm shocked Phoenix isn't in it...or maybe they are and it's just not reported yet.
DeleteNo to Portland (terrible medical staff). No to Golden State (terrible coach and management). Dallas will probably get Deron Williams (who's a better fit for them).
That leaves the Knicks, Nets and Raptors. The large Asian population in Toronto might actually be a distraction, I think (remember that whole "Stop cheering for Jeremy Lin" thing with the Warriors?). Knicks would be great...if not for Melo's iso-style.
That leaves Brooklyn. That's definitely my number one choice (unless Phoenix enters the Lin sweepstakes). Even if Jeremy re-ups with the Knicks, he shouldn't commit for more than one year.
That's true, Jeremy said in an interview that he didn't like playing in front of his Bay Area home crowd because they would scream whenever he touched the ball. He was distracted by that and the heavy burden of "representing Asian people"..... He then changed his priorities to "Playing for God".
DeleteWhich is why NY and Dallas would be good for him. Because even though there are Asian fans in the crowd, they are not anywhere near the majority, and the crowd knows when to cheer and when to shut up and let him concentrate.
ABC Baller,
DeleteI don't think Jeremy ever said he "didn't like" playing in front of the home crowd. He said he felt more pressure at home than away. Personally, while I was thrilled that Jeremy signed with the Warriors, after a while, I thought he had made a mistake. He grossly underestimated the home town's reaction to him and other things.
I don't think this article was publicized a ton but someone who tried to advise Jeremy Lin said that "Jeremy Lin always did things his own way":
http://theclassical.org/articles/project-lin
As I know this person (Rich Twu - via the basketball league mentioned in the article), I can confirm that Rich really pitched Jeremy Lin as a "Asian-American basketball icon". RIch organized buying a ton of tickets when Harvard came into the Bay Area to play Santa Clara.
Now that Jeremy is a little more experience in the business of the NBA, I think he will make a better decision of what his next destination will be.
Again, I don't think the Warriors are a good fit. The coach Mark Jackson basically took one look at JLin, then looked at Charles Jenkins, and picked Jenkins over JLin because he was more ripped and looked more athletic. The new GM Jerry West, did not oppose waiving JLin at the time.
DeleteNow they expect Jeremy to come back to the Warriors to salvage the team's image ... after W fans booed the owner in his own building ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLCuJzI_jEc
Jeremy Lin should not be used as a PR tool for someone else's failed management.
ABC Baller,
DeleteYou miss my point. If Jeremy Lin were to rewind and decide between the Warriors, Lakers or Mavericks, he would have picked the Lakers or Mavericks versus the Warriors. He picked the hometown team because it was "his dream" and he felt he had a lot of support from the family. He GROSSLY underestimated the reaction the fans would have and that put a lot more pressure on him that he realized.
Never mind that the Warriors were / are dysfunctional. The Warriors releasing Jeremy Lin was the best thing for him. Now that Jeremy had a couple of years of NBA experience, he will go to the situation that is "best for him" and not worry about being home or other things.
I always have to keep reminding people here about Lin's WISE decision to sign with the Warriors as a rookie:
DeleteMavs: GM Donnie Nelson was going to stash Lin in the D league for an entire year with no NBA call up. With the lockout season and no training camp, Lin would STILL be in the D league right now without ever having played a single NBA minute.
Lakers: The Lakers had two established starters in Bryant and Fisher. Blake was coming off the bench, as were Farmar and Vujacic. Established veteran rotation means no NB minutes for Lin.
Warriors: Behind starting guards Curry (fragile) and Ellis, the Warriors had no backup pg especially since they let CJ Watson walk. Acie Law was signed after the start of the season so that Keith Smart could have the ineffective PG he liked.
Lin's decision to sign with the Warriors looks smarter and smarter. Had he signed with any other team, he'd still be trapped in the D league unable to leave the team.that signed him.
If Lin went back to the Warriors, he DEFINITELY could handle the hometown crowd.
DeleteI am sure that Lin's Warrior teammates were jealous of his fame and game. Lin would have to downplay things in the media in order to maintain team order.
I personally don't want Lin to go back to GS for the same reasons that ABC Baller already said: Mark Jackson and Jerry West have already demonstrated their inability to recognize Lin's game.
KHuang,
DeleteYour logic escapes me a bit. Jeremy Lin would not have been able to leave the Warriors if they didn't release him. You're saying Jeremy signing with the Warriors was good because they ultimately "let him go"?
I'm a little more optimistic that you with regards to the other teams. Donnie Nelson has an eye for talent and he would be setting up Jeremy to pick up for Kidd and Terry (as they are aging). People may disagree and that's fine. Ultimately, our opinions of players don't matter. NBA execs have to go by their instincts and with Jeremy Lin, they were wrong.
I think I've pointed this out multiple times though. I don't think Jeremy Lin was fully ready during his rookie year. It wasn't until this year when he was better prepared but the lockout hurt him. He didn't get summer league time and the Warriors staff never really saw him. No one in the NBA really saw his improvement.
Jeremy Lin's broke a barrier than Asian-American actors / actresses face. Until someone gets an actor / actress a chance and the movie sells a lot of tickets, no one will be willing to take a chance.
No one will over look an Asian player again. At this point, I don't really care where Jeremy goes as long as he has a long and solid career.
I know Lin's and my logic seems convoluted, but he and I are operating under the premise that it's better to play minimal NBA minutes and eventually be cut than to play ZERO NBA minutes and be cut anyway.
DeleteOnly the Warriors were offering Jeremy Lin a chance to get into real NBA games. Dallas intended to banish him to the D league and LA had a major logjam that included no less than 5 rotation guards under contract.
Lin and his very good agent Roger Montgomery understood well that had Dallas and LA prevented Lin from playing in the NBA for his first two seasons, that would have been absolutely fatal to his career.
Even though the Warriors barely played Lin, he showed enough against NBA competition to be picked up by two additional teams the next season. Plus, Lin's experiences practicing and playing in the NBA fully prepared him for Linsanity.
Yes, Lin wasn't completely NBA ready in his first seasons. Few rookies are. Despite that, Lin amply demonstrated that he could produce if given even moderate minutes. Lin's rookie struggles were actually far less than those of almost every player from his 2010 draft class, plus he managed to rack up some incredible stats along the way (being ranked #2 among guards in the entire NBA for blocks and steals per minute is one of the many amazing stats Lin had). None of this would have been possible had Lin been buried in the D league last season and this season.
If Lin did what you suggested he do by signing with the Mavs or Lakers and thus banishing himself to the D league for 2 years, Lin would be having his NBA rookie season NEXT YEAR, provided he even got a chance to make a roster.
Curious what it would be like if Lin played for Toronto Raptors. They are actually a very good team, they have been building through their draft picks the right way. Definitely not a superstar team with egos.
ReplyDeleteYou guys know nothing about the game first off the world famous new york knicks have an actual shot at championships with this nucleus now why would you leave the team when it seems fate gave him his opportunity here in nyc one of the biggest stages in all of basketball next u guys think that lin has proven himself?let's be fair he played well but needs a lot of work so bench melo or play them all at different stages in the game ridiculous if lin can't play with stat pick/roll or shoot it to melo on the double team don't you think he should be concerned with that u don't just throw money at an unproven guy just cuz of noteriety yes lin should make more money but dang can he play an 82 game season?hey guys if they could get nash here with lin you would see. Lins game goto levels unknown ...when u talk nash u talking true pointguard u talking heart loyalty respect ur talking about a guy who impacts every game without scoring unless needed bottom line does lin have respect loyalty and heart?
ReplyDeleteYou guys know nothing about the game first off the world famous new york knicks have an actual shot at championships with this nucleus now why would you leave the team when it seems fate gave him his opportunity here in nyc one of the biggest stages in all of basketball next u guys think that lin has proven himself?let's be fair he played well but needs a lot of work so bench melo or play them all at different stages in the game ridiculous if lin can't play with stat pick/roll or shoot it to melo on the double team don't you think he should be concerned with that u don't just throw money at an unproven guy just cuz of noteriety yes lin should make more money but dang can he play an 82 game season?hey guys if they could get nash here with lin you would see. Lins game goto levels unknown ...when u talk nash u talking true pointguard u talking heart loyalty respect ur talking about a guy who impacts every game without scoring unless needed bottom line does lin have respect loyalty and heart?
ReplyDeleteHater, this is a Jlin forum.
DeleteDon't come here to flame people and not expect to get called out.
First of all, there is no guarantee that the Knicks keep Lin.
Second, Lin and Stat and Melo played great together.
Third, many players have missed larger portions of seasons and played great. Michael Jordan missed far more games than Lin did and turned out fine.
Fourth, everybody but Jeremy Lin would be surprised to see Nash beig unable to beat him out in practices for the starting job.
Fifth, the Knicks win and win BIG with Lin. He singlehandedly turned the Knicks season around, at least as far as win/loss percentage and team stats go.
So hater, welcome to the board. But learn from the examples of prior haters that have come before you: you'll be PUNKED OFF THIS BOARD if you are only here to flame us.