Monday, April 30, 2012

Should Jeremy Try To Comeback?

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37 comments:

  1. just to get a playoff experience if he is at least 90%.

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  2. Here's the way I see it ... the Heat are not really a 3-point shooting team. The only reliable shooters are Mario Chalmers and off the bench Shane Battier, James Jones, and Mike Miller.

    So why not go into a zone defense and dare them to beat you from the outside ? Then whenever they miss, grab the long rebound and run for a fast break.

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    1. I agree about zeno-D since that's how Dallas beat Heat last year.
      However the Knicks need a full training camp to perfect the zone defense.
      Half-baked zone will probably make things worse.

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  3. I wonder what the troupe of D Rose trainers and doctors have to say after his injury from last Saturday’s game.

    With due respect, these professionals must have known the consequences of giving clearance to D Rose to play if he isn't 100% fit. But, in the fast-paced, highly physical playoffs, nobody can guarantee that players won’t be injured.

    The gruesome injury of D Rose should be a wakeup call to anybody who is trying to get Jeremy on court to play even for a few minutes. Jeremy can be very vulnerable to injury given the extremely high intensity of the playoffs.

    I am suffering from Jeremy Lindrawal as like many other Lin’s fans but I can patiently wait for a stronger Jeremy Lin and most likely, more exciting play from him in the next season.

    Jeremy, please don't make a comeback this season, no matter what.

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  4. It really depends on the doctors' advice.

    If the worst case scenario is a slight chance of another minor tear that will take 6 weeks to heal during the offseason...it's worth the risk.

    If the worst case scenario is a big chance of a crippling ACL tear that will jeopardize next season and his career...it's obviously not worth the risk.

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  5. after the Amare fiasco this series is done. even he came back at decent shape this thing is still over. at this point i don't even want Jeremy on this team unless some major changes happens with either Amare or Melo and Woodson.

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  6. "please pray for a speedy recovery for @amareisreal".

    --future lin tweet.

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  7. I don't think any of us are doctors so it's hard to say. Professional athletes know themselves the best and Jeremy thinks he can play, he should go for it. THere is NOTHING like playoff experience. Jeremy's been in high pressure situations before but the NBA playoffs are a different story.

    OTOH, if there's any doubt, Jeremy will not play. Rose's injury should be a wake up call to Jeremy too. One article noted that Rose's hard driving style may shorten his career. Jeremy goes hard too and he might have to take it easy if he wants a long term NBA career.

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    1. good point jeremy taking it easy. there's something about all the greats playing in a manner that doesn't lend them to be injury prone. jeremy is an attacker but sometimes it looks a bit wreckless and he's only going to keep getting hammered like the time with Kidd. i think if he just works on his hesitation dribble inside the paint he won't have to jump and get hammered and be more like the way cp3 works in the paint.

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  8. Jeremy should not come back unless he is 100%. He is a smart kid. I believe He can still learn a lot about the playoff by just observing the games on the bench.

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  9. So much press on lin melo not fitting together. The theory now is melo stat not fitting.. espn reports nyk average 10 fewer points with melo stat combo. So let lin come back if stat is out. We know lin stat without melo workss. So see if lin melo without stat flows. Impt info to know this season so you know who to trade.

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    1. This is pointless. It goes without saying, let alone trialing. Melo is still a superstar+scorer. Dolan won't trade him, at least not in next season. Stat is a over-paid-had-been superstar. Even though Dolan wants to trade him, other teams won't be interested in him, not with his big salary.

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  10. Please don't use Jeremy as a guinea pig to find out whether Melo or Stat should be traded. It isn't in Jeremy's job scope(:

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  11. I think Lin should shut it down. Coming back during the regular season this fast is ok but not during the playoffs. Its the playoffs!! Everybodys level of play is higher. And thats expected. No one cares about your injury, not even the coach. Hes got too much to worry about. He will use you unless you state otherwise. In the heat of battle, as a player you cant refuse to play. Right? Thats where the problem lies. Thats where a reinjury may (more like will..) Occur. A light ten minute will turn into a full-on 30 minute stint

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  12. Unless its a mandate from management that Jeremy plays only ten minutes Woodson will use Lin as much ad possible. Mind you ten minutes in the playoffs would probably translate to 15min. of regular season wear and tear. How Woodson handles Lin if and when he comes back will determine how much respect I will gain for him as a coach for Lins career.

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    1. Ive withheld judgement on Woodson until now. We will see

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  13. Lin should ABSOLUTELY not come back this season and he knows it. His advisors know it, his agent knows it, and everybody know it. He's an injured player waiting for a new contract. I am sure most of you would remember Grant Hill not too long ago, trying to come back too soon from injury and missing about 3-4 years of his prime. In contrast, Tim Duncan who's smart shut down during that same playoff and have a fantastic injury free career afterwards. Another reason is if Jeremy comes back now, Knicks are relying so much on Melo, they are less likely to give him opportunity to succeed. Plus Knicks are playing against the MIAMI HEAT. They shut down Lin, when he was 100%. Imagine what they can do to him, when he's not 100%. Don't come back. Continue to rehab and watch the ship sinks from the sideline. Let's Phil Jackson comes in next year and fix the whole thing.

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    1. Uh, Lin was not 100% in that Heat game.

      He was tired out from playing too many minutes. That spilled over into the Chuckshaq game where Lin could barely move.

      Lin's bad performance was not solely due to Heat domination.

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    2. You can't use that as an excuse. Heat players also played a lot of minutes.

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    3. The Heat didn't play the night before. The Knicks and Lin did. The Heat were also playing at home (...and getting away with holds and hand-checks).

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    4. Ray,
      There are times when excuses are due, and the Linsanity stage was one of them:
      1) You are right. Heat players have played lots of minutes. So has most players on most NBA teams. But these players have had seasons and years of playing major minutes. Lin was a bench warmer prior.
      2) Heat didn't play night before, Knicks and Lin did.
      3) Heat played at home. Most of us know what kind of officiating is done when they play @ home.

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    5. 4) Heat players had training camp. Jeremy Lin had no training camp.

      5) Jeremy Lin was not even part of his team's plan until about a week before the game. His own team didn't even know how to use him.

      6) Jeremy Lin was playing over 40minutes a night in order to carry his injury depleted Knick team. The Heat have had their mostly healthy team together up to that point.

      Normally excuses don't apply in the NBA, but Jeremy Lin's situation is far from normal.

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  14. The Knicks are imploding before our very eyes with the Shump injury and now the bizarre Amare fiasco.

    What a joke.

    New York is done.

    Lin should not come back.

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  15. If he feels good and comes back I'll be ecstatic. I think the world is ready for Linsanity ver. 2.0. Imagine him coming back in game 4 and taking the Knicks to victory over the Heat. OK that's unlikely but still, Lin surpassed all of our expectations and he can do it again! (Positive thinking :P)

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  16. I'd like to see Lin come back.

    I really think Lin can make a difference. His presence will inspire the Knicks to make one last stand.

    Jeremy Lin saved the season TWICE already, first when he got elevated to starter and then again when Woodson took over. If Lin does nothing more than step onto the court for a few minutes in a Willis Reed fashion, that would do it for Knick and Lin fans.

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    1. Jeremy can Definitely make a difference, a huge Linsanity type of difference.

      However, is it worth it? It's a huge jump to go from resting/rehabing to playoff basketball, that's my serious concern.

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    2. Just having him dressed and running through the tunnel at MSG would be a BIG lift to morale. The crowd would go crazy to start the game, and who knows, maybe the Knicks pull off a win in Game 3 (the Heat just aren't the same on the road).

      And then JL can play some real minutes in Game 4 (15-20).

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  17. The media and those jealous people are very cruel. So if Lin has the slightest soreness, there is no point in rushing back.

    If Knicks loses (which most likely will be the case), he will be the scapegoat, and will be criticized (just like they did to Amare, my guess is that his frustration must have something to do with those criticism after he got back).

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    1. The Knicks are already down 0-2 and it will be 0-3 after the next game. Lin will not be scapegoated for failing to lead the Knicks back from an 0-3 deficit against the most talented team in the NBA. (Has any NBA team ever come back from an 0-3 deficit? I know some teams have come back from an 0-2 deficit in a 5 game series, but that is totally different from coming back from 0-3 in a 7 game one.)

      Still, Lin should not come back. Didn't he just have surgery April 2? And isn't the injury time 4-6 weeks? And didn't he just start back running? Nope. Wait till next year with a new coach, better players around him, and a Carmelo Anthony more willing to play team basketball.

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    2. Frankly, it doesn't matter if the Knicks win or not.

      Jeremy Lin is a crowd favorite. Even if he plays only the last minute of a 40 point blowout, the fans will cheer him. It'll send the fans home with something happy instead of something miserable like Stoudemire's hand injury.

      The NBA is entertainment. A team doesn't always have to win in order to entertain its paying fans.

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  18. No. It is not worth the injury risk. Let the Knicks get swept and Lin play for Phil Jackson next season. The humiliation of getting swept two years in a row will increase the pressure on Carmelo Anthony to abandon his isolation game and accept Jackson's triangle offense. Knicks fans might have mixed feelings about Jackson coming in because of the bitter rivalry they had with Jackson and the Bulls in the Patrick Ewing-Michael Jordan era, but the need for rings will overcome that.

    Jackson's systems in Chicago and Los Angeles didn't feature the point guards much - though to be fair, John Paxson, Derrick Fisher and the other point guards that Jackson had weren't nearly as good as Lin - but I am certain that Jackson is smart enough to incorporate more pick and roll play and other things that will help make use of Lin's talent.

    The Willis Reed thing? Reed barely played in that game. Though he gave the team an emotional lift, they pretty much won that game without him because they were good enough to do so. The Knicks aren't anywhere near good enough to beat the Heat, especially without Stoudemire and Shumpert. Lin sits and goes to the All-Star game with Phil Jackson as his coach next year.

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    1. Phil Jackson? Is that a fact or just a rumor?

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  19. By the way, I didn't see where this interesting writeup on Jeremy Lin from Black Enterprise Magazine was posted. It is a bit old, but still an interesting read. A nice quote:

    "It may seem like a fluke to some, but the 23-year-old guard was ranked as one of the NCAA’s top ten players in his conference during the 2008-2009 season while attending Harvard University. Too bad he was cut by two teams—including the Knicks—at the beginning of this season. After getting his shot to play, Lin showed and proved, scoring 38 points against perennial All-Star Kobe Bryant and leading the team to a seven-game winning streak."

    http://www.blackenterprise.com/2012/03/02/jeremy-lin-decoded-cashing-in-on-overnight-success/

    Hmmm. Looks like Black Enterprise disagrees with Stephen A. Smith!

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    1. "Too bad he was cut by two teams—including the Knicks—at the beginning of this season. After getting his shot to play, Lin showed and proved, scoring 38 points against perennial All-Star Kobe Bryant and leading the team to a seven-game winning streak."

      Lin was never cut by the Knicks, he plays for the Knicks. So many Lin articles have erroneous information.

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    2. The article was wrong and Stephen A Smith was wrong.

      Into the trash bin they both go. Flush.

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    3. The only thing wrong about that article was the false claim that he was released and later re-signed by the Knicks. If you are going to use that one error as an excuse to dismiss an otherwise excellent analysis (BE is a BUSINESS magazine, not a sports one anyway) then it is you who needs to get taken out with the trash.

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    4. Wrong is wrong.

      Professional magazines should check their facts before publishing. It's called EDITING.

      Only a loser would make excuses for that. So stop with the lame apologizing for BET's lack of professionalism and press the flush lever just like I have.

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