Only promising thing about this game was seeing Woodson put baron back in the last few minutes. Even though baron stunk it up at least woody is realizing he desperately needs a play maker in the end of games. This is only going to help define Jeremy's role in this melo centric team.
This is "Melo's team".... But it's becoming painfully obvious he cannot do it by himself. The team knows it, now Melo knows it and so does Woodson. He can get his huge numbers, but what good is that when they're still in danger of missing the playoffs? Remember when four, five guys were in double digits as the Knicks won? THAT is how you win playoffs and championships. Not a one man show. Melo is playing really well, like he ought to have from the beginning of the season. But I think he, and to a certain extent Woodson, wrongly believed the Knicks problems would be solved if only Melo's game wasn't interfered with. Think it's clear that the Knicks need to be more than Melo's team if they want any playoff success in their future.
Watching the Lakers/Mavs game... did you see Kidd's foul on Bynum? I get the sense that Kidd has lost a couple of steps this year, and he's compensating by making dangerous defensive fouls. I'm a Bynum and Lakers hater, but what was Kidd doing jumping right into Bynum and hacking Bynum's head? There was zero chance of that being a good basketball play, and only the chance for a dangerous result. I think Kidd (or any player) should have gotten a flagrant 1 for that type of play.I'm a fan of Jason Kidd, but I think he needs to retire if he needs to resort to that type of play.
I saw that foul too, immediately remind me the one on Jeremy.
"In January 2001, Jason Kidd was arrested and pleaded guilty to a domestic abuse charge for assaulting his wife Joumana in anger.""broke her rib and damaged her hearing by smashing her head into the console of a car"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_KiddJason Kidd is a POS. he doesn't play life clean why would he play basketball clean.
nba needs to review those and suspend him some games. how the one on lin not called a flagrant or resulted in a suspension is beyond me. i used to like jason kidd.
I used to like Jason Kidd, but not anymore! Monster! One day he will get his pay!!!!! Monster!
To be fair, even with Lin and Amare, it's hard to beat the Heat.
The Heat are a very different team on the road, though. Very beatable when they don't get all the calls and the crowd isn't behind them. Jeremy had his worst game against them...but that was in Miami on the 2nd day of a back-to-back. He was unprepared and fatigued. I have no doubt Jeremy will redeem himself the next time he faces them (the way he did against the Sixers despite starting 1-11 in the "rematch").
The Heat double-teamed Lin all the time in the Feb. game to teach him a lesson and to smash Linsanity because Linsanity became quite annoying to those all stars. They really really made a full effort on that. In this game, they didn't throw a lot of doubles at Melo.
i find that Lin would have high turnover when someone defense him hard especially the heat game. I think that is because his lack of experience. Hope he will improve it in next season and become better.
Poor Melo. His high scoring gets scrutinized and all the blame, but honestly it was the others who had to play better. Baron Davis took way too many errant shots. Smith made some big plays but his overall field goal percentage was low. Novak could't create anything for himself and made a couple of dumb mistakes today... Why can't they play better? Is it really because Melo was too dominant? Or is it simply that they are not good enough and cannot perform at a high level on a regular basis?
others played better when lin played. why can't they play better when melo was in? becuase melo is nothing more than a scorer. that's it. great players have all around games and are great leaders getting their team involved.
I think what ABC Baller says below pretty much says it all. 30 3-ptrs with really low percentage. The games they won where against bad teams or when they made alot of those. Well see how this plays out but I can't see them going very far in the playoffs without STAT and JLin. Even a rusty JLin is better than any PG they have right now, including Baron Davis.
i think its the latter. Lets not just look at the scoring here. Melo also had more rebounds and assists. Some people can argue that Melo is ball hogging but what about the rebounding? People cant say Melo is hogging the ball there as well. he also had more assists than Baron who had 5 TOs. If Amare's there he could get at least 8 rebounds more and even if Lin still had the same production the first time against Miami that would still be better than Baron and Bibby's performance. I want Lin back even if he comes off the bench he'll be a big impact. if he can beat the starters of other teams what do you think he'll do to their second unit?
I hope people realize eventually that sports, like anything in life, has its fundamental roots in human psychology: Players will play their heart out if they feel that they are part of a team. With Melo's "dominance", there is not much team effort. Most players stand around watching Melo. And I'm sure it has locker room implications as well. Recall the time when Jeremy was playing during Linsanity phase. The whole team was obviously involved. Jeremy knew exactly how to reward players who did well on the court by putting players in their comfortable spot to score. Of course, jealously was there too, but it was "good" jealously: To see such a young player play hard, teammates have a strong obligation to step in. Energy level can be transferred. Human pyschology 101. Everyone, especially athletes and Woodson, must keep in mind.
i know what you mean that is why JLin is missed. His position as PG is to involve his teammate and his great court vision is a joy to watch. Unfortunately Melo cant do that but you can't fault him for that. It has been his kind of game for 9 years cant change his style in a few games. And besides when Lin was in the court together with Stat Melo didnt do much Iso play. Im not defending Melo here but you know his contract with knicks is 4 years so he's not going anywhere unless traded so im trying to like him.
I don't like Melo no matter what, so I choose not to see "his games"! Basket ball is A teamwork game not individual hero game!
Plus seeing JLin playing the games was kind of fun and excited! I am looking forward 100% healthy Jeremy Lin back to the court with 100% support!;)
You guys keep talking about one man can't do it alone, but all I hear is Lin did this and did that. Lin is an okay player, but he does not have the experience and at this present moment the game to Carry the knicks. It's a team sport, but your Stars are the players that Carry the team, i.e Paul from boston, Kobe for the lakers, Michael and scottie from the old bulls, D-Rose new Bulls, Stockton and Malone for the Jazz I can go on and on. Melo and stats are the stars of the team, you can hate Melo all you want, but there is not one player on the team that has his sort of talents. Melo is one of the top 3 scorers in the lead with KD, and Kobe. I like Lin, but you Lin fans are irrational, you want to turn the team over to an unproven point guard, that is not going to get the team anywhere.
having assist doesnt mean u are getting ppl involve. ideally, you want the ball to go around to everyone in every possession.
You have to look at the big picture on the box score. Melo made 14 of 27 shots he took. The Knicks team took 30 3-pointers and only made 9 of them. The Knicks as a team took 73 field goals, of which 43 were inside the arc, and Melo took 20 of those 43 shots inside the arc.Miami led points in the paint 44 to 34.So basically almost every shot by a Knicks player not named Melo, was a long jumper or 3-pointer. Melo was the virtually only guy scoring in the paint.It is a huge problem on offense, when the options are: ball goes to Melo to score inside .... or other teammates take perimeter jumpshots (Which they are not good at making.)Terrible offensive scheme. Yes it's beaten some good teams .... but it will fail in the playoffs if the Knicks don't attack the paint.
Thats very telling, 30 3-pointers, seems like thats the way they beat those other good teams, when they made those. I can't see that going far in the playoffs if thats all the offense you can generate.I couldnt find much on the status of STAT.. only he may be back for first round. Doesnt sound like the Knicks will have JLin and if they dont get STAT either there's no way they will get out of the first round at 7th or 8th place at end of the season.
While it's speculated that Linsanity caused jealousy among the teammates, there may be jealousy to "Melo-isonity", who knows? If that is the case, one can imagine that the Knicks won't go pass the 1st round of the playoff.
sorry, edit "jealousy to" should be "jealousy of"
I see what you mean, and there is a high chance that it is occurring already. Woodson is riding Melo like D'antoni was riding Jeremy lol
Let Melo do it his way. At least let him try. If he can win a championship or even a playoffs series this way, good for him.
I am too lazy to do the calculation but I bet every player's scoring stats suffer since Jeremy goes down except Melo and probably JR Smith and Iman Shump. And no surprise these 3 are the only 1-on-1 iso players on the team. Even Baron Davis regresses by starting and having more minutes. Honestly unless the team continues to win at a great rate as of right now (unlikely), I don't think many players will be happy playing this Melo way except of course Melo himself and JR and Shump.
Cara, you need 1-1 players to score when team ball is not working, I played High school and college basketball and been playing since I was 7, so I know the game look at all the great championship teams, They all had 1 or 2 great iso players that get buckets when the team needs it. It's funny, the greatest player to play the game (MJ) was probably the best ISO player that ever played the game, second is Kobe need I say more?
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In the NBA, the typical championship defensive strategy against a single dominant scorer is to let that scorer get his but clamp down on everybody else. One of the reasons (among many) that I consider Jeremy Lin an elite player is that he finds ways to elevate his teammates play even when teams try to clamp down on them by single covering him and seeing if he can beat them himself. They tried that in the first stage of Linsanity and the Knicks went on a winning streak. Opponents have correctly figure out that the best way to stop Lin is to send doubles and triples at him to get the ball out of his hands. Once Lin gets that ball, he picks teams apart by attacking himself or creating shots for people. Lin is as good in defense as he is on offense. When he is on the court, opponents are always looking over their shoulder. Lin appears to me to be at least as good on help defense as John Stockton who was one of the best help defenders when he played. Lin has led the Knicks on two big time winning streaks with and without the other Knick stars. All of us seem to have no trouble recognizing Lin's synergistic effect on the Knicks. The old saying goes that "great players make their teammates better". On that criteria, Lin does that as well as any player I have ever seen play in the NBA.
i grew up watching michael jordan. he was a scorer but he also made the all nba defensive first teams 9 times. but what i always found amazing was the bulls didn't have any other super star or legit center and they won 6 championships with average talent around jordan. jordan didn't do everything by himself. players wanted to do well for jordan and i remembered during their champion ship runs in the 90s his teammates didn't just pass the ball to him and watch him go to work. they were active running around getting open and creating opportunities for themselves. that's what a great players do for his team. jordan was also a distributor.
Agreed. I vividly remember an old Bulls vs Pistons game in which Jordan was being covered by three guys every time he came up the court. That game, there was one specific play that I think led Jordan to finally realize that he had to start utilizing his teammates more. John Paxson (an underrated guard who I watched intensely because of his immense contributions to winning) caught the ball at the top of the key. He saw Isiah Thomas sagging to play legal help defense on Jordan who was on the left side of the court. The Pistons had put a 3 man defensive triangle around Jordan and were daring anybody not named Jordan to beat them. John Paxson was known mainly as a deadly outside shooter because of his playoff scoring sprees against the Lakers for the Bulls 1st championship, but he was actually a good all around guard with more athleticism than people credited him for. Paxson hesitated, then drove the ball quickly past nobody and scored a easy one handed layup. The suddenness of it all startled everybody on both teams, including Paxson himself. The Bulls would lose that series, but Jordan learned his lesson about playing through his teammates right then. By the time Phil Jackson was cursing at Jordan in the Lakers playoffs to get the ball to an open Paxson, Jordan had already adjusted his game. Jeremy Lin is the opposite of Jordan in so many ways, and if anything Lin will eventually learn how to assert his scoring even with players like Anthony and Stoudemire on the court beside him.
The key to the Knicks winning has been bench production, anything that the starting 5 were not producing, the bench would step up and score some points, stop the other team's momentum, et.This time, the bench is not helping much besides J.R. Smith who is a one on one shooter. Novak has been ice-cold these last couple games, Jeffries and Harrelson aren't scoring any points to fill in for Tyson Chandler when he sits. Mike Bibby is just plain terrible on both ends of the floor. Knicks no longer have depth on the bench.
Melo is not Lebron James or even Kobe. Yes, they all put up a ton of shots and get to the FT line a lot thanks to officiating. But that's where the parallel ends.Lebron and Kobe create shots for other teammates. They force teams to double them so they can pass it to the open man. Melo does none of that, he only wants to go one-on-one, if he does get double teamed, he will try to repost and get the ball back. He does not create for his teammates.
True. Then again, Jeremy Lin wouldn't be needed if Carmelo Anthony could create for other guys. Like Dwayne Wade and Lebron James said, the one man team thing eventually gets old. Whether or not Lin is kept by the Knicks, Carmelo Anthony needs help from players like Lin in the long term.
Miami is more like a 3 man team, so they are really not that complete either and that's why Dallas beats them last season. and somehow i feel like they will not win the finals again. Sorry Lebron.
carmelo going off for forty points and trying to be the hero every night reminds me of kobe during shaq-less years from 2005-2008 before they got pau gasol. He had a cast that included kwame brown, luke walton, and a second rate point guard (name?). Kobe had to score in bunches every night that included sixty and eighty point games. He got tired of it and demanded the team to trade for players, even wanted to trade A.Bynum for Jason Kidd. Carmelo can go solo for only so long, then he will smarten up. It took Kobe almost 3 years to realize it. I hope it wont take Melo that long. The difference here is Melo already has a great group of guys who can help him to win a championship. He just needs to distribute the ball or become adecoy to free uo other guys on the team for looks. To this day Kobe still hasnt learned to become a decoy. Makes the game alot tougher than it should be. Ironically the lakers are 4-1 w/o kobe now. The ball doesnt start and die with him. I think all these superstars (ball hogs) need to keep count of their fg attempts during a game. There many other things you can do without shooting every time. There is such a thing as setting up your opponent for a kill instead of trying to kill your opponent every single play. Utilize the surprise element.
Just remembered that laker pg was smush parker
This isn't Jeremy Lin related, but still NBA material that just made me roll over and die:Jason Kidd is Sportsmanship Award Finalist.... someone help me. http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/mavericks/post/_/id/4688233/jason-kidd-selected-for-sportsmanship-award
See Jason Kidd's name aside with Jeremy Lin? Is this a joke? Can't believe it! This made me questioning the seriousness about this award, image if Jeremy Lin is on the stage to accept the award and Kidd is sitting there, what should Jeremy react to Kidd?
Jeremy is a fan of Jason Kidd... they both came from Cali.
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