U.S. Secretary of Education, Arnie Duncan, wrote an awful TIME article about Jeremy Lin. It was very focused on his race. Must have mentioned Lin's Asian ethnicity 4 or 5 times. He totally misses the point, that is not why most people like Jeremy Lin. Makes you wonder how Mr. Duncan got the job to be US Secretary of Education ...
Jeremy also wrote the TIME article about Tim Tebow and why he should have been in the 100 list. A well written essay, worthy of a Harvard grad.
Hmmm. And how many other athletes have become global sensations after getting real minutes in less than 30 games? Yes, people like Jeremy Lin, but they like lots of athletes. But Linsanity - which goes far beyond mere "like" and was a total frenzy after about like 3 or 4 games, if that - is due to his race. Otherwise, he would be just another very good player - with lots of fans who like him - in a sports world where there are many.
If Jeremy Lin were white, black, red, green, or purple (well, he WAS purple due to all.of the uncalled illegal contact fouls), he'd have been a worldwide sensation after scoring more points in his first starts than any player in modern NBA history.
That such an explosion was done by an undrafted player is, well, one of a kind. Not even Billy Ray Bates (an EXCELLENT player for Portland who came out of nowhere like Lin did) could do that.
A historic start SHOULD be a worldwide phenomenon regardless of the player's race.
Linsanity has nothing to do with race, it was how he brought intensity to Knicks especially when they were down 8-15. It was incredible, he literally lit up the court and Knicks opponents during his breakout run, he made Knicks fun to watch under D'Antoni's pro PG system, and the team coalesced behind his leadership and became a serious contender.
Add his Cinderella story to the mix and you have something the media craves for, but the subsequent rise to fame with Asians has nothing to do with Linsanity.
BTW I don't think Arne Duncan was trying to say JLin is special cause he was the little Asian that could...He simply mentioned his ethnicity and closed by saying JLin demonstrated to the world that no matter what race you are, you will succeed given enough "grit, discipline, and integrity" and to not worry about stereotypes.
I'm just happy that JLin is the first on the list :)
i think Jeremy's influence has got to do with his talent, story, his harvard degree perhaps religion and yes race. We are talking about influence here people not just linsanity. Would you think half of the Asian population would even care about him if he isn't Asian, New yorker loves him because he saved the season but i doubt if it will create buzz in the Asian community if he is white or black. It got nothing to do with being racist but im talking about interest here. I know someone who likes him because he is christian and because he is cute or because he looks like a good boy. I'm one to be honest here half the reason i like him is because he is Asian.
Meanwhile, Mike Woodson is slamming Lin again in the press.
He said that things "didn't work with Jeremy Lin" earlier in the season. That despite the two win streaks Lin had for the Knicks under two different coaches. Woodson goes on to praise Melo, Stat, and Chandler but says nothing positive about Lin.
I hope that Woodson gets Lin waived or traded off the Knicks. A veteran coach like Woodson shouldn't be dragged down by players like Lin that he feels aren't good enough to play for him.
However, the context is not QUITE what KHuang is depicting it.
"How Stoudemire looks with Anthony is the bigger issue as they have yet to jell since Melo came aboard 14 months ago. Anthony, playing at power forward, has had his best two weeks of his Knicks career without Stoudemire. But Woodson vowed he will make the pair work and Stoudemire will resume his starting power forward slot. “As a head coach I’ve got to see if this thing is going to work,’’ Woodson said. “I know you look at the numbers — Melo and Amar’e didn’t work earlier in the year, didn’t work with Jeremy Lin. I look at things differently. Amar’e is a starting power forward, a starting 4, 5 in this league. Melo can play 3 or 4. Tyson [Chandler] is definitely is a starting center in this league. I got to make it work. He’s going to start.’’"
Actually, it isn't NEARLY what KHuang is claiming. It is clear that KHuang's bias against Woodson far exceeds any bias that Woodson might have against Lin.
See below, KHuang. Woodson didn't praise Melo. He just said "Melo can play 3 or 4." Also, if what Woodson said constitutes "criticism", then well, Woodson praised Chandler without "criticizing" him like he allegedly did Melo and Stat. So wow, does Woodson prefer Chandler to Melo and Stat? If you are going to be consistent (fair) instead of agenda-driven (unfair) then by your own standard, you have to state A) Woodson prefers Chandler to Melo and Stat and B) you have to articulate a reason why (since you have already stated - without a shred of evidence - that Woodson hates Asians, which is your entire motivation for taking this out of context to begin with).
You can reply here or down there, it doesn't matter. You are convinced that Woodson is an anti-Asian bigot, and there is nothing that Woodson can ever say or do to change your mind.
Oh, and by the way "UNFAIR, just the way Unknown likes it." ... yeah right. Please note below how zxcvb agrees with me. "I'm not a fan of Woodson as a long-term solution, but you're taking that line out of context, KHuang." Sorry. You have an agenda. Admit it and move on.
You WANT to make this a racial issue because you are only here to flame Asians, unknown.
The reality is that race doesn't even cross my mind in this instance.
Woodson called out 4 guys and commented positively or at least neutrally on 3 of them. It wouldn't matter what color or species the 4th guy was, he got flamed in the papers.
Your problem is that you think Lin DESERVES to be only criticized and not praised. So when guys like me call it out, you start throwing around the race card.
Let go of your prejudice, unknown. It does you no favors.
I haven't mentioned race with Woodson here, and I am not going to.
With you, unknown, it is all about race. We all know that.
Another area where I disagree with you is that I feel Woodson would be an EXCELLENT long term coaching solution for the Knicks.
I hope Woodson gets the pg of his choice, whether it's Lin or not. And because I'm an NBA fan first and foremost, I know that Woodson is the right man for the Knicks job and that Lin will play many successful years in the NBA for coaches that actually appreciate his game.
In all fairness to Woodson he said in today's postgame that Amare and Jeremy w/o Melo were 6-1 and that team was probably better. I thought it was actually bold of him to admit that Amare and Melo weren't working, and at the same time talk about how well Amare and Jeremy work.
"But Woodson believes he can make it work between Stoudemire and Anthony.
"I know, you look at the numbers, well, Melo and Amare it didn't work early in the year and it didn't work with Jeremy Lin but ... I look at things differently," Woodson said."
He's not saying the team "didn't work" with Lin. He's just talking about Melo's struggles playing alongside Amare and Lin. And Melo did struggle. Even when the Knicks were winning, he was only shooting ~35% and now he's on fire.
Lin didn't get ANY of the blame. And what "praise" did he give the other guys? "Melo can play 3 or 4." That's PRAISE? Sorry, dude, but your agenda - which is to find fault with Woodson no matter what - is what is bogus.
"Melo and Amar’e didn’t work earlier in the year."
So, was that a direct criticism of Melo and Amare? Was it? He said FIRST that Melo and Amare didn't work TOGETHER, and THEN SAID that THE THREE OF THEM DIDN'T WORK WITH JEREMY LIN. If anything, the criticism of Melo and Amare was A) more direct and B) MADE TWICE. So on a criticism meter, if Lin gets 100, then Melo and Amare get 250.
That's not all. On the praise meter, Chandler gets a 100 (Chandler is DEFINITELY a starting center in this league), Stoudemire gets like a 70 (Amar’e is a starting power forward, a starting 4, 5 in this league) and Melo gets about a 10 (Melo can play 3 or 4). Woodson said that Chandler was DEFINITELY a starter, that Stoudemire is a starter at two positions (but not DEFINITELY) and Melo ... well he can either play 3 or 4. (No mention that Melo is a starter in this league. Just that he can play two positions. Which Landry Fields can also. Just neither of them particularly well.)
So by your own standard, KHuang, Woodson likes Tyson Chandler - who got the most praise and no "criticism" - better than he likes Amare Stoudemire, and likes Amare Stoudemire better than Melo. This despite the fact that Melo is better than Stoudemire, and that Stoudemire is MUCH BETTER than Chandler.
Again, dude, Woodson has no agenda against Lin. It is you who have an agenda against Woodson.
What I'm not OK with is Woodson singling out Lin as being the guy who can't get the job done.
You refuse to acknowledge the harsh reality that Lin engaged on a nice little winning spree with Woodson and the other three players. That is to be expected from a guy like you who insists that Lin doesn't deserve to play in the NBA.
And if I have an agenda against Woodson (which I DON'T other than to insist that he doesn't constantly criticize one player over the others when the player hasn't done anything to warrant criticism), too bad for you.
Your flaming and gaming is fun to read, unknown. You give me great material with which to write about basketball and race.
woodson is wondering how to make melo-amare works because thats the job of the coach not Lin. Woodson is just stating what the fans are seeing. Melo-Stat for some reason doesnt work and people say well maybe they need a good PG and now we have Jlin who is a good PG with great court vision and it still doesnt work under d'antoni which resulted to the 0-6 losing streak. What he is saying is that the PG (JLIN) isn't the prob at all its Melo and Stat that needs to adjust. Chandler was mentioned because some people think thats chandler-melo-stat are clogging the offense in the paint that's why its not working and lin got nothing to do with it.
Woodson has not realized that when he had Lin with Melo and Stat, those guys buried teams so badly that they often didn't have to play entire 4th quarters.
There were no issues of chemistry when Lin led the Knicks under Woodson. The team was not just winning, it was CRUSHING people.
People look at the boxscores of those games and mistakenly assume that Melo and Stat and Lin and Chandler cannot coexist. But the truth is that those guys play so well together that they don't need to score 30 or even 20 to win big.
I think it's important to look at the entire interview in context and not just Berman's quotes. If you go to MSG.com and look at the entire interview, you'll see Woodson saying at around the 3:30 mark:
"When we started this process, [STAT] and Jeremy Lin -- I had them both for seven straight games and we were 6-1 and we were probably playing better at that particular time early on. It's my job to get him back n the mix".
It's only later on that he makes his quote about "didn't work". The full video of the interview is available at http://www.21shumpstreet.com/2012/04/linsanity-meets-lesanity-not.html where my take is this: Given Woodson thinks that his 6-1 team played better than Melo playing hero ball now...If the Knicks make it to the 2nd round and Lin is able to return and fit in quickly -- Watch OUT
Ugh. What should have been a positive piece on Lin making Time Magazine 100 most influential has been hi-jacked by KHuang's "Mike Woodson is an anti-Asian bigot" propaganda. At the very least, stuff like that should be saved for the game and game-related threads. I hope that the moderator of this site sees it the same way.
I don't really agree with KHuang's opinion of Woodson's supposedly anti Lin bias but I don't see anything here to suggest he thinks Woodson is anti-Asian. Personally I root for Lin because I like humble,nice and ex D-leaguers to win over brash overly paid superstars. Just like I am now rooting for Toney Douglas to have his breakout moment too :-). So lets try our best not to bring race into this discussion here.
Woodson fired several anti Lin criticisms earlier this season, including this latest one.
Other players have done worse than Lin for Woodson, yet they weren't getting called out in the papers.
I don't care if Woodson likes Lin or not. I don't even care if Woodson gets Lin kicked off the team. Woodson is a good NBA coach who knows what he's doing and Lin is a GREAT NBA player who will do his elite player thing for any team that has the court sense to play him.
All I care is that Woodson acknowledge Lin's basketball contribution occasionally. He doesn't have to gush the way we do here, but he shouldn't always be saying that Lin "wasn't working" especially since Lin helped him earn a nice little win streak that would've continued had Lin not gotten injured.
I only want people to appreciate Lin and his game without letting their negative biases against his race obscure the amazing things he does on the NBA court.
I have not mentioned race on this thread as pertains to Woodson.
On the contrary, I have even said that race is NOT an issue with Woodson criticizing Lin in the papers.
This is all about Unknown using a nonracial issue to flame Asians like me. Everybody here knows that.
Go ahead, unknown. Keep whining to administration because you got punked AGAIN. Meanwhile, I will keep out calling out any inequitable behavior of any sort whether yoy like it or not.
Yeah, I don't know what's worse: This TIME article that only talks about Lin being an Asian-American, but makes no mention about his skills as an athlete or devotion to his faith .... or the fact that it's written by OUR appointed Secretary of Education.
Maybe deep in many people's mind, they still believed Jeremy Lin's success is largely due to his race, not other factors. For one, I am indeed influenced by Jeremy Lin, his passion for basket ball, he didn't give up, he should have got athletic scholarship; he should have been drafted, he should have been played in NBA with meaningful minutes long before Feb 4; I am inspired by his spirit to overcome one and after another blow; his work-ethic; he plays for team win instead of personal stats, his grateful attitude to all the people helped him, his coach, his teammates, the fans; his big heart of loving other people. He is my idol, my kid's role model.
Just like what he said, his story will inspire other people to chase their own dream.
He is a great human being. I hope and believe he will continue to influence more and more people in the future, in basketball, beyond basketball, influence people of different nations.
Yes, Jeremy Lin is an inspiration to all people, not just Asians, or even sports fans.
Unfortunately there are people out there who can't see him as a good player, a good role model .... All they see is his race, and they treat him like he's some kind of curiosity.
Here's the complete list of the 100 Most Influential ------------> http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/completelist/0,29569,2111975,00.html
I'm so proud of Lin, he really deserve it. And yeah this is really true because I'm not an NBA fan. I like Michael Jordan but I'm not following him the way I follow Lin. I admire Lin so much, I subscribe to NBA league pass and pay $160 for one season, I upgrade my cable package to watch ESPN and TNT, I get a Sports package to watch MSG Chanel. I'm paying $60 more a month than my regular cable package before and all of this is because of the influence of Lin. I still watch the knicks game bec. I want them to win so Lin can play in the 2nd round of the playoff. Right now, I just watch the Jeremy Lin MSG Countdown that I recorded in my DVR and his highlight games in YouTube. I miss Lin, I'm praying for his speed recovery. I'm happy for his success. I will follow him until he retire :) I want my kids to grow up like him. He's a role model and a great leader in his team. Novak said "Jeremy makes us better". His teammates love him and believes in him, I hope jlin haters will stop hating this kid. I hope they respect him and look up at him. "I miss you Jeremy its really boring to watch the game w/o u". Take care & God Bless You!
I feel just like yours! I am not really a sport fan, because of jeremy Lin, I watched Knicks games, I miss Jeremy! It is fun to see him playing the basket ball, I watch his past games through YouTube repeatly!
Feel so robbed tho with the leaguepass, bought it towards end of Feb to watch JLin, and well I have it on Comcast lol have it only in SD...Then Jeremy injures himself grrrr...Have been watching other teams but other than OKC/LAC/Celtics/Spurs really don't have motivation to watch others...I've not watched Knicks games this week at all, Melo is so boring :/
@Kenoshi I feel I was robbed too :( I subscribed third week of Feb also and pay the full price then after one week they cut the price to $89, but I said it's ok, I just want to watch Jeremy Lin then he got injured, I was disappointed not because Lin got injured but because people always trying to put him down, now that he's out they keep saying that they should trade him to Steve Nash. My question is WHY??? trading Jeremy is like trading 1/2 of Knicks fans. Did they already forget Lin's big contribution to this team? If it's not for Lin I'm not sure if Knicks will be in the playoff. Lin outplayed John Wall during D-league but didn't get a chance to show his talent in the NBA. John Wall continue to shine while Jeremy got cut twice. Where is John Wall now? His team is one of the worse team right now. JW is good PG but for me Lin is the best PG bec he carry his team to his shoulder and make his teammates shine. When they win He compliment his teammates and when they lose He blame himself alone. My husband asked me if I want to go on vacation to Las Vegas, I told him no, I want to go to New York or Chicago to watch their games. We didn't go because Jeremy is not playing, hopefully next year :) I miss Lin I want to see him in the courtside watching Knicks game because I want to make sure he's ok. He's always in my prayer everyday. I want him to be successful in his career. I wont get tired following him wherever or whatever team he go (but hopefully he stay to Knicks until he retire).
can you just call the nba and say you don't want league pass anymore and get a refund because jlin is not playing? that will show the nba how much lin means to their business.
@jubeininja69 I tried that I call them and tried to cancel my NBA league pass but they said I can't get a refund because I already paid for one season. I told them Jeremy Lin is the only reason I subscribed for NBA league pass :( I always watch knicks games in my cellphone while driving when Lin still healthy and playing every game but now I just record it at my DVR and watch it later just to find out if the Knicks win and still in the playoff spot. I don't know, for me it's really exciting when Lin is playing. I like it when he shoot a 3 pts. shot and the announcer will say " Jeremy Lin from downtown" or "Jeremy Lin alley oop to Chandler" Now it's so boring for me to watch knicks game because I don't see a lot of ball movement and sometimes it looks like they just do their own shot and the ball is not properly distributed. Sometimes it looks like there's no teamwork. But when Jeremy was on that team everybody looks good especially Novak & Chandler.
All you need to know about Stephen A "the racist bigot (unless you're black)" Smith is: - he said the n--- word was offensive but people were too sensitive about the c---k word for Asians. - After Jeremy Lin's 26 games of averaging 17.5 points, 7.5 assists, 2 steals a game on 46% shooting, with entire team's highest PER and adjusted plus/minus, the best 4th quarter PER behind Chris Paul, and a top 5 PER among starting point guards, Stephen A Dumbo was STILL screaming on his radio show that Jeremy Lin was a marginal NBA bench player at best. - He gleefully says Lin is exposed after every non-amazing game, despite the kid is only 23 years old - Smith thinks that Lin is only famous because he's Asian (just that idiot Mayweather), and ignores the FACT and REALITY that if Lin was white or black, with his exact same skill set he would have gotten tons of D1 offers in college then been drafted top 10 in the NBA draft. Instead, Jeremy Lin is California's only HS Player of the Year to receive ZERO D1 scholarships, went undrafted, and was cut twice. He didn't magically become dramatically better, even the Knicks didn't know what they had and were about to cut him.
In terms of the Time Magazine ranking, take race out of this (even though the prejudice Lin overcame is real). Anyone who loves sports movies like Rocky, Rudy, The Natural, Hoosiers, or any underdog story has to LOVE this Jeremy Lin story. It's unbelievable. It's like the Kurt Warner or Tom Brady story but times x10 because Lin got no scholarships, was undrafted, and cut twice. As Steve Nash said, anyone who loves sports has to love this and those hating on Lin are insane. How can anyone hate on a kid only is only team-first, humble, and has worked hard to overcome so much.
Another thing to add is that most of Jeremy Lin fans are NOT Asian. In the arenas yes there are Asian fans who show up but look around, most fans who bought Jeremy Lin t-shirts and jerseys are white, black, hispanic fans too and entire families. I have seen so many white and black little kids wearing Lin shirts. It's easy to root for him. He's a clean-cut, hard working, humble, team-first guy, and A LOT OF FANS like him for that, many fans who were turned off by the NBA the past 10 years.
Lin belongs on that list not only for his story, his popularity among people of all backgrounds, but also that he has dramatically raised the stock value of MSG, the TV networks are making a killing, tickets are sold, Knicks ticket prices at home and away games are 50% or more higher, and the #1 jersey is also Jeremy Lin's jersey. The kid has a LOT of popularity and only the anti-Asian bigots are trying to say it's only Asian fans.
Is it just me or Lin's injury is not too bad in the grand scheme of things? 1st, if Lin wasn't injuried, Melo probably wouldn't be as motiviated and so eager to prove that he is the main man. And while the Knicks in the long term of course was better with Lin, the short term result probably wasn't as good as of right now with Lin playing. 2nd, if Lin wasn't injuried, and Melo still exploded like he was doing now, Lin would become an afterthought and a role player to Melo. He would be no different to the likes of JR Smith and Novak. I think it would somewhat hurt Lin's status on the team IMO. Of course, I love Jeremy to be healthy and playing. But as he has said, sometimes God works in a mysterious way. ;-)
Lin has turned the Knicks season around singlehandedly. If Linsanity didn't happen, the Knicks would be the same 8-15 team that looked terrible. Without Lin, Steve Novak would have continued to sit and JR Smith would've taking passes from Chris Paul.
The one thing I'd like to see Lin improve on is pacing himself during games. I'd like to see him play at a slightly slower pace but pick his spots more. Under Woodson, Lin showed signs of doing that.
I still am amazed how good a NBA player Lin has become. I have never seen anything like it, not even when John Starks funked and dunked his way from being an Oklahoma grocery bagger to a revered NBA All Star.
Especially Woodson's offense is to marginalize the role of a PG. I give Woodson and Melo credit to win games so consistently even with such poor PG play of Baron Davis, Shumpert and Bibby. This is something D'Antoni failed to do so. Woodson's ISO offense kinda works in the way like Phil Jackson's triangle offense that can get away of playing a mediocre PG. I would like to see how far they can go in the playoffs. If without Lin they reach the 2nd round or make it a competitive series against the Heat, it should be counted as major success. If they can go all way to the Finals, Melo will reach Dirk's status. But I highly doubt it. Lol.
Yes, it's hard to believe the Knicks team now is the same team losing team before Lin's spark started; Lin pours heart into game and inspired the whole team; Lin also injected competition into some superstars, without Lin's threat, the superstars would play the game just like going to work like 9 to 5 worker, otherwise it's hard to believe the team with so many healthy superstars would have 8-15 record in the regular season.
Without Lin, we may not see the what Carmelo could deliver as he did in April.
This accolade jeremy received makes me think about fame, its glory and destruction. While leading a famous life is like a dream come true, it can't be good for your personal life. You can't go out to your usual places esp. in a small city like manhantan. No movies, broadway shows, going to centralpark, riding the subway, dating, or just doing juvenile things. Now that Jeremy is still young it's ok. You can take NY and the weather for only so long. After 2 YEARS I think he will yearn to come back to someplace like california, where he can live a more normal life. Lol. NY is an experiment and a testing ground. We will see...the saga continues
i for one dont want to be famous because of the Aspie in me but i think Jlin is equipped to be famous. I wonder if he will make movies like MJ and Shaq lol. But he did made some youtube video which include bit of acting so maybe. Im sure he'll get use to the attention and maybe even like it in the long run.
"When Mike D'Antoni decided to veer away from both and make Jeremy Lin a savior, Lin had the audacity to jack up more shots than Stoudemire, with the unwavering support of the now-departed coach."
Stephen A is not very intelligent. Jeremy Lin's avg shots per game went down to only about 12 under Mike Woodson, but that deosn't mean that EVERY SINGLE game Amare and Carmelo must shoot more, that's just idiotic especially when Melo was shooting 39% for the season and not trying at all. Stephen A tries to blame Lin while ignoring that Melo's laziness led the Knicks to a 0.300 record the past 2 years before Linsanity.
There's no point writing any more other than to say Stephen A Smith is a CLOWN and a racist bigot (unless you're black, then he loves you no matter what).
Please don't include links to Steven A Smith trash or any other garbage links. The more we click, the more it supports these idiots- I work in the software industry and page clicks are a huge metric for the press. You are unknowingly supporting him. Steven A is one of the few media people out there whom I believe is truly bigoted and has some strange Malcolm X type agenda. He simply can't fathom that an Asian man has come into "his people's" sport in his town.
Sorry for the tangent, but....
5 years ago it was unfathomable to have a black president...I even commented to my brother that it is unlikely that we would ever see a black president in our lifetime. Though you may or may not agree with his politics, Obama's election to the presidency became a symbol of transcending all odds and making the impossible seem a reality. His election as president was a great moment for all minorities and personally gave me a lot of hope. Likewise, I think Jeremy has done the same thing, and his successes should give all minorities the hope that insurmountable racial stereotypes can be overcome regardless of whether you are black, Mexican, etc. It's too bad idiots like Steven A can't understand this.
Nicely put jlinisasuperhero! Exactly my thoughts. There's so much hypocritical thinking in some American communities that's its simply ridiculous. We should all embrace Jeremy Lin and his accomplishments.
I truly believe more Asian players will get into pro American sports in the future
I'm not sure I understand why you disagree with that. Please elaborate. These web-sites make money by advertising and driving more traffic to their pages results in increased revenue. Even if 2 million people hate Steven A Smith, but still click on the links, they still get money from it, and it increases Steven A Smith's standing with ESPN. That's all they care about...so you are in effect supporting them by providing these trash links.
I tend to think that reading an article doesn't mean that I agree with the points the writer is making and support the stand that the writer makes. Maybe it's just how this industry measures the money-churning ability of writers, then I rest my case.
I say we should continue reading Stephen A Smith's ESPN rants.
That way, we can make him a punching bag too. I've had lots of fun punking racists like him on this thread.
I also support ANY writings about Lin and other NBA players, even if they are negative. I'm a businessman, so all publicity is good publicity!
As Lin gets used to playing in the NBA, Stephen A Smith will keep Lin's name in the papers. That is because Smith is one of Lin's biggest FANS.
Remember that if Lin couldn't play like Yi Jianlian, nobody would write articles about him. And if articles were written, it would be of the patronizing "He's trying so hard but just can't quite make it" variety.
Lin attracts negative attention because he CLOWNS people like Smith that originally thought he couldn't play because he's Asian. The better Lin plays, the stupider Smith looks and feels.
I agree that Stephen A Smith's idiocy shouldn't be rewarded. On the other hand, Jeremy Lin deserves to be defended from d-bags like Stephen A and his moronic followers who think Lin is only famous because he's Asian, that Lin is a marginal player still, and that n---- is offensive while c---k is no big deal.
If anyone does click on that CLOWN's articles, please be sure to trash him multiple times in the comments.
Why do people read/listen to the drivel that SAS spouts? People like SAS and Skip Bayless purposely make outrageous statements to get a reaction and attention. The more you get agitated, the more successful they are. You should treat them like a KKK rally, instead of holding a counter rally, just ignore them, and they'll go away. The worst response you can do is to argue back, because that's exactly the attention they want.
Honestly, Woodson's continued ass-kissing of Anthony and Amare and hidden dismissing of Lin and D'Antoni ball is quite disgusting. But if it produces results, then why not? NBA is a star's league. MDA's sharing the ball philosophy is nice and fun and all but probably too ideal and more suitable for college and not NBA. Also, Anthony especially is a Dolan favorite. Can you really blame Woodson to appease his employer in order to keep his job? And I think sooner Lin will understand this cruel fact and probably also needs to change a bit to adapt to this league.
Also, probably the same can be applied to SAS. I think he just wants to appease Anthony etc so that he can be friendly with them and get them to do exclusive interviews. One day when Lin becomes a superstar of his own, I believe SAS will kiss Lin's ass hard as well. Haha.
SAS is trying to be one of those new Sports Radio Shock Jocks like Jim Rome. He knows that he's not going to get anywhere by being the nice guy and respecting athletes. Sports fans have such short attention spans nowadays, that they will only respond to verbal insults and obsessive rants. He wants to say things that are against the norm, outside the realm of decency.
This is what has happened to sports news over the years. Nobody cares about a sport unless there is some "Controversy".
Well I read the news now that Landry is demoted to the bench and Shumpert is the new starting SG. It really looks like Woodson does not like Lin and his guys and caters hard to Melo and Melo's guys. :-(
I wonder if Lin does return, will he need to prove himself again from the bench again? Also, next season, when everyone is healthy, will Woodson still prefer Davis/Bibby as the starting PG as he seems to love and do that to appease Melo? Especially if they can go far in the playoffs with this lineup without Lin, they will have the excuse of "if it isn't broken, don't change it"...
okay Lin is injured the PG in the line-up are davis,bibby and douglas. Unfortunately douglas is delivering d-leaguer performance so i dont know what ur talking about playing those two to appease Melo. Woodson only got those in the PG position when Lin is healthy he will start again no question ask unless Woodson is a fool and doesnt want to win. Landry was demoted to the bench because my heart breaks a little by saying this.... well he kinda sucks lately. I dont know what happened.. sophomore slump, shorten season slump. Whatever it is i think people are too worried about Jlin not being able to adjust to Woodson's coaching when its really landry's that's struggling which resulted to his demotion. Hope next season he finds his shots and rhythm again.
I really think that Baron, JR Smith and Shumpert are Melo's guys. You can see how they cater to Melo on the court and in interviews and Melo likes it. Their personality off the court also seem to match. Lin and Landry well not so much. In a Shumpert interview recently, he said how Melo acts as a leader and urges him to improve to help him win a championship. You probably wouldn't see Melo say something like this to Lin, if ever.
i can understand smith because they both came from denver but baron and Shump nah they are d'antoni's player. Of course they cater to melo thats what the coach is telling them to do thats how the plays are called. And do you expect them to slam Melo in interviews. they play for the same team for christ sake. ur not even allow to slam players from other team... its called an unportsman like behaviour. Why do fans put color to everything. Dont believe everything you read in the paper. The drama is what sells the paper or so they think. Its not Melo or baron or shump or smith that said Linsanity is dead its the PRESS. If its anyone who like to make up non-existing fight between players or pit players against each other its the Press. Im a Jlin fan and since i know he is the type that tries to get along with everybody i like to think he likes everyone in the Knicks and that includes Melo.
Lin needs to work on his jump shot in off season. he can't just reply on driving to basket to score. Once he has reliable mid range jumper and 3 point shooting, he will be complete. Right now, he is only half way there. plus, not driving/banging all the time will save his body for long time career to come.
Well, Tony Parker wouldn't have a midrange jump shot or a 3 pointer if he didn't have the great Tim Duncan setting screens for him.
Tim Duncan is still the best player in the NBA, as far as I am concerned. That guy is the most devastating two way weapon in basketball. The Spurs are essentially a one man team revolving around the most unselfish Hall of Famer in basketball history.
It sounds like they are really sticking to his return in the 2nd round of the playoffs (If the Knicks can make it that far, which they probably won't.)
So even if Lin is healthy enough to return to the court faster, they might hold him out until after the 1st round of playoffs, because they don't want to risk it.
I think the 6 week time table has already been set.
There is a possibility that the reason that Jeremy is not posting news about his recovery is that he DOESN"T want to. He's a private guy. The last thing he would want to do is go on twitter: "Got out of the shower. Ate breakfast. Pedaled on bike. Took a nap." I respect that he's keeping it private. Rest and privacy is what he deserves.
I remember I read somewhere Lin told reporters, he is fine but he can not talk to reports, maybe one week after surgery. He didn't update his facebook, or twitter that much. He didn't upload any new video, thought he would have time for that. Don't know what is going on.
That's makes me worried too. I look everyday for Lin's news that's why I check this website every hour because I want an update about Jeremy. Any suggestion how we can show our love and support for him? Anybody knows his official fans club? I want to sign up and be a member. I support him 100% for better or worse I will not get tired to support him. Who knows how to contact Jeremy's foundation? I want donate $10-$50 a month to show my support for him. I want this kid to be successful in his career in many, many years to come. I think if Jeremy's fans will donate $1.00 to $10.00 a month, the money will help his foundation to grow and he can help more children and make a big difference in their life. I like him because he was humble, kind, generous, smart and always give praises and thanks to God to all his blessings that he received.
Did anyone see Jeremy Lin at Time100 Gala last night??? He posted pics from the event on FB and damn I don't know if he gotten skinnier or they suit was slim as fuck, lol... He didn't look like the Jeremy Lin I'm used to seeing but more like the F.O.B Asian, lol...
great to see athletes like Jeremy and Tim Tebow making it to the list for all the right reasons.
ReplyDeleteLinks?
ReplyDeletehahaha nevermind.
DeleteU.S. Secretary of Education, Arnie Duncan, wrote an awful TIME article about Jeremy Lin. It was very focused on his race. Must have mentioned Lin's Asian ethnicity 4 or 5 times. He totally misses the point, that is not why most people like Jeremy Lin. Makes you wonder how Mr. Duncan got the job to be US Secretary of Education ...
ReplyDeleteJeremy also wrote the TIME article about Tim Tebow and why he should have been in the 100 list. A well written essay, worthy of a Harvard grad.
"that is not why most people like Jeremy Lin"
DeleteHmmm. And how many other athletes have become global sensations after getting real minutes in less than 30 games? Yes, people like Jeremy Lin, but they like lots of athletes. But Linsanity - which goes far beyond mere "like" and was a total frenzy after about like 3 or 4 games, if that - is due to his race. Otherwise, he would be just another very good player - with lots of fans who like him - in a sports world where there are many.
If Jeremy Lin were white, black, red, green, or purple (well, he WAS purple due to all.of the uncalled illegal contact fouls), he'd have been a worldwide sensation after scoring more points in his first starts than any player in modern NBA history.
DeleteThat such an explosion was done by an undrafted player is, well, one of a kind. Not even Billy Ray Bates (an EXCELLENT player for Portland who came out of nowhere like Lin did) could do that.
A historic start SHOULD be a worldwide phenomenon regardless of the player's race.
Linsanity has nothing to do with race, it was how he brought intensity to Knicks especially when they were down 8-15. It was incredible, he literally lit up the court and Knicks opponents during his breakout run, he made Knicks fun to watch under D'Antoni's pro PG system, and the team coalesced behind his leadership and became a serious contender.
DeleteAdd his Cinderella story to the mix and you have something the media craves for, but the subsequent rise to fame with Asians has nothing to do with Linsanity.
Hey unknown, you should find us "just another good player" who went undrafted but burst onto the NBA scene the way Lin did.
DeleteI eagerly await your answer.
BTW I don't think Arne Duncan was trying to say JLin is special cause he was the little Asian that could...He simply mentioned his ethnicity and closed by saying JLin demonstrated to the world that no matter what race you are, you will succeed given enough "grit, discipline, and integrity" and to not worry about stereotypes.
DeleteI'm just happy that JLin is the first on the list :)
And that's another problem when Arne Duncan writes, "It doesn't matter if you're an Asian American kid, white, black, or Hispanic" ....
DeleteWell what if the reader of this article is Native American, Arab, Indian, Jewish, or a woman (Women are still considered a minority in many jobs.)
I don't like it when people think they can include every race with "White, Black, Brown, Yellow ... and that's all".
Because he left out many other groups of people, who could have been inspired by this article, but now feel shut out.
i think Jeremy's influence has got to do with his talent, story, his harvard degree perhaps religion and yes race. We are talking about influence here people not just linsanity. Would you think half of the Asian population would even care about him if he isn't Asian, New yorker loves him because he saved the season but i doubt if it will create buzz in the Asian community if he is white or black. It got nothing to do with being racist but im talking about interest here. I know someone who likes him because he is christian and because he is cute or because he looks like a good boy. I'm one to be honest here half the reason i like him is because he is Asian.
DeleteMeanwhile, Mike Woodson is slamming Lin again in the press.
ReplyDeleteHe said that things "didn't work with Jeremy Lin" earlier in the season. That despite the two win streaks Lin had for the Knicks under two different coaches. Woodson goes on to praise Melo, Stat, and Chandler but says nothing positive about Lin.
I hope that Woodson gets Lin waived or traded off the Knicks. A veteran coach like Woodson shouldn't be dragged down by players like Lin that he feels aren't good enough to play for him.
Source? Link?
DeleteNY Post. Author Marc Berman. "Stoudemire aims to return on Friday".
Deletetibew131:
Deletehttp://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/amar_aims_to_return_vs_cavaliers_rzgOTcBCF7w0eLKPMBzqXL
However, the context is not QUITE what KHuang is depicting it.
"How Stoudemire looks with Anthony is the bigger issue as they have yet to jell since Melo came aboard 14 months ago. Anthony, playing at power forward, has had his best two weeks of his Knicks career without Stoudemire. But Woodson vowed he will make the pair work and Stoudemire will resume his starting power forward slot. “As a head coach I’ve got to see if this thing is going to work,’’ Woodson said. “I know you look at the numbers — Melo and Amar’e didn’t work earlier in the year, didn’t work with Jeremy Lin. I look at things differently. Amar’e is a starting power forward, a starting 4, 5 in this league. Melo can play 3 or 4. Tyson [Chandler] is definitely is a starting center in this league. I got to make it work. He’s going to start.’’"
Actually, it isn't NEARLY what KHuang is claiming. It is clear that KHuang's bias against Woodson far exceeds any bias that Woodson might have against Lin.
So Woodson can praise Melo and Stat and Chandler but not Lin?
DeleteUNFAIR, just the way Unknown likes it.
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DeleteSee below, KHuang. Woodson didn't praise Melo. He just said "Melo can play 3 or 4." Also, if what Woodson said constitutes "criticism", then well, Woodson praised Chandler without "criticizing" him like he allegedly did Melo and Stat. So wow, does Woodson prefer Chandler to Melo and Stat? If you are going to be consistent (fair) instead of agenda-driven (unfair) then by your own standard, you have to state A) Woodson prefers Chandler to Melo and Stat and B) you have to articulate a reason why (since you have already stated - without a shred of evidence - that Woodson hates Asians, which is your entire motivation for taking this out of context to begin with).
DeleteYou can reply here or down there, it doesn't matter. You are convinced that Woodson is an anti-Asian bigot, and there is nothing that Woodson can ever say or do to change your mind.
Oh, and by the way "UNFAIR, just the way Unknown likes it." ... yeah right. Please note below how zxcvb agrees with me. "I'm not a fan of Woodson as a long-term solution, but you're taking that line out of context, KHuang." Sorry. You have an agenda. Admit it and move on.
You WANT to make this a racial issue because you are only here to flame Asians, unknown.
DeleteThe reality is that race doesn't even cross my mind in this instance.
Woodson called out 4 guys and commented positively or at least neutrally on 3 of them. It wouldn't matter what color or species the 4th guy was, he got flamed in the papers.
Your problem is that you think Lin DESERVES to be only criticized and not praised. So when guys like me call it out, you start throwing around the race card.
Let go of your prejudice, unknown. It does you no favors.
I haven't mentioned race with Woodson here, and I am not going to.
DeleteWith you, unknown, it is all about race. We all know that.
Another area where I disagree with you is that I feel Woodson would be an EXCELLENT long term coaching solution for the Knicks.
I hope Woodson gets the pg of his choice, whether it's Lin or not. And because I'm an NBA fan first and foremost, I know that Woodson is the right man for the Knicks job and that Lin will play many successful years in the NBA for coaches that actually appreciate his game.
In all fairness to Woodson he said in today's postgame that Amare and Jeremy w/o Melo were 6-1 and that team was probably better. I thought it was actually bold of him to admit that Amare and Melo weren't working, and at the same time talk about how well Amare and Jeremy work.
DeleteOK. That's cool.
DeleteAs long as Woodson OCCASIONALLY says something good about Lin, that's.good enough for me.
+1000 to Woodson.
I'm not a fan of Woodson as a long-term solution, but you're taking that line out of context, KHuang. Here's the actual quote:
ReplyDeletehttp://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/16965/woody-on-stat-melo-ive-got-to-make-it-work
"But Woodson believes he can make it work between Stoudemire and Anthony.
"I know, you look at the numbers, well, Melo and Amare it didn't work early in the year and it didn't work with Jeremy Lin but ... I look at things differently," Woodson said."
He's not saying the team "didn't work" with Lin. He's just talking about Melo's struggles playing alongside Amare and Lin. And Melo did struggle. Even when the Knicks were winning, he was only shooting ~35% and now he's on fire.
I still think it was a direct criticism of Lin.
DeleteWoodson goes on to praise the other players but says nothing positive about Lin.
Lin gets the blame but not the credit? BOGUS.
Lin didn't get ANY of the blame. And what "praise" did he give the other guys? "Melo can play 3 or 4." That's PRAISE? Sorry, dude, but your agenda - which is to find fault with Woodson no matter what - is what is bogus.
Delete"Melo and Amar’e didn’t work earlier in the year."
So, was that a direct criticism of Melo and Amare? Was it? He said FIRST that Melo and Amare didn't work TOGETHER, and THEN SAID that THE THREE OF THEM DIDN'T WORK WITH JEREMY LIN. If anything, the criticism of Melo and Amare was A) more direct and B) MADE TWICE. So on a criticism meter, if Lin gets 100, then Melo and Amare get 250.
That's not all. On the praise meter, Chandler gets a 100 (Chandler is DEFINITELY a starting center in this league), Stoudemire gets like a 70 (Amar’e is a starting power forward, a starting 4, 5 in this league) and Melo gets about a 10 (Melo can play 3 or 4). Woodson said that Chandler was DEFINITELY a starter, that Stoudemire is a starter at two positions (but not DEFINITELY) and Melo ... well he can either play 3 or 4. (No mention that Melo is a starter in this league. Just that he can play two positions. Which Landry Fields can also. Just neither of them particularly well.)
So by your own standard, KHuang, Woodson likes Tyson Chandler - who got the most praise and no "criticism" - better than he likes Amare Stoudemire, and likes Amare Stoudemire better than Melo. This despite the fact that Melo is better than Stoudemire, and that Stoudemire is MUCH BETTER than Chandler.
Again, dude, Woodson has no agenda against Lin. It is you who have an agenda against Woodson.
I'm TOTALLY OK with Woodson playing favorites.
DeleteWhat I'm not OK with is Woodson singling out Lin as being the guy who can't get the job done.
You refuse to acknowledge the harsh reality that Lin engaged on a nice little winning spree with Woodson and the other three players. That is to be expected from a guy like you who insists that Lin doesn't deserve to play in the NBA.
And if I have an agenda against Woodson (which I DON'T other than to insist that he doesn't constantly criticize one player over the others when the player hasn't done anything to warrant criticism), too bad for you.
Your flaming and gaming is fun to read, unknown. You give me great material with which to write about basketball and race.
woodson is wondering how to make melo-amare works because thats the job of the coach not Lin. Woodson is just stating what the fans are seeing. Melo-Stat for some reason doesnt work and people say well maybe they need a good PG and now we have Jlin who is a good PG with great court vision and it still doesnt work under d'antoni which resulted to the 0-6 losing streak. What he is saying is that the PG (JLIN) isn't the prob at all its Melo and Stat that needs to adjust. Chandler was mentioned because some people think thats chandler-melo-stat are clogging the offense in the paint that's why its not working and lin got nothing to do with it.
DeleteWoodson has not realized that when he had Lin with Melo and Stat, those guys buried teams so badly that they often didn't have to play entire 4th quarters.
DeleteThere were no issues of chemistry when Lin led the Knicks under Woodson. The team was not just winning, it was CRUSHING people.
People look at the boxscores of those games and mistakenly assume that Melo and Stat and Lin and Chandler cannot coexist. But the truth is that those guys play so well together that they don't need to score 30 or even 20 to win big.
I think it's important to look at the entire interview in context and not just Berman's quotes. If you go to MSG.com and look at the entire interview, you'll see Woodson saying at around the 3:30 mark:
Delete"When we started this process, [STAT] and Jeremy Lin -- I had them both for seven straight games and we were 6-1 and we were probably playing better at that particular time early on. It's my job to get him back n the mix".
It's only later on that he makes his quote about "didn't work". The full video of the interview is available at http://www.21shumpstreet.com/2012/04/linsanity-meets-lesanity-not.html where my take is this: Given Woodson thinks that his 6-1 team played better than Melo playing hero ball now...If the Knicks make it to the 2nd round and Lin is able to return and fit in quickly -- Watch OUT
Ugh. What should have been a positive piece on Lin making Time Magazine 100 most influential has been hi-jacked by KHuang's "Mike Woodson is an anti-Asian bigot" propaganda. At the very least, stuff like that should be saved for the game and game-related threads. I hope that the moderator of this site sees it the same way.
ReplyDeletearen't you the same moron who stated lin doesn't belong in the NBA? gtfo, kid.
Deletethis unknown is pathetic
DeleteI don't really agree with KHuang's opinion of Woodson's supposedly anti Lin bias but I don't see anything here to suggest he thinks Woodson is anti-Asian.
DeletePersonally I root for Lin because I like humble,nice and ex D-leaguers to win over brash overly paid superstars.
Just like I am now rooting for Toney Douglas to have his breakout moment too :-).
So lets try our best not to bring race into this discussion here.
Woodson fired several anti Lin criticisms earlier this season, including this latest one.
DeleteOther players have done worse than Lin for Woodson, yet they weren't getting called out in the papers.
I don't care if Woodson likes Lin or not. I don't even care if Woodson gets Lin kicked off the team. Woodson is a good NBA coach who knows what he's doing and Lin is a GREAT NBA player who will do his elite player thing for any team that has the court sense to play him.
All I care is that Woodson acknowledge Lin's basketball contribution occasionally. He doesn't have to gush the way we do here, but he shouldn't always be saying that Lin "wasn't working" especially since Lin helped him earn a nice little win streak that would've continued had Lin not gotten injured.
To unknown, just get out off this JLin site, by the way - I am anti-woodson, I don't like him at all!
Delete@KHuang, I'm with you. Everything that you said is correct. GO JLIN!!!!
DeleteThank you AM.
DeleteIn a way, I wish I WASN'T correct.
I only want people to appreciate Lin and his game without letting their negative biases against his race obscure the amazing things he does on the NBA court.
I have not mentioned race on this thread as pertains to Woodson.
ReplyDeleteOn the contrary, I have even said that race is NOT an issue with Woodson criticizing Lin in the papers.
This is all about Unknown using a nonracial issue to flame Asians like me. Everybody here knows that.
Go ahead, unknown. Keep whining to administration because you got punked AGAIN. Meanwhile, I will keep out calling out any inequitable behavior of any sort whether yoy like it or not.
Yeah, I don't know what's worse:
ReplyDeleteThis TIME article that only talks about Lin being an Asian-American, but makes no mention about his skills as an athlete or devotion to his faith .... or the fact that it's written by OUR appointed Secretary of Education.
I like this article talking about jeremy's hard work, team bball, winning on the court etc.
DeleteMaybe deep in many people's mind, they still believed Jeremy Lin's success is largely due to his race, not other factors. For one, I am indeed influenced by Jeremy Lin, his passion for basket ball, he didn't give up, he should have got athletic scholarship; he should have been drafted, he should have been played in NBA with meaningful minutes long before Feb 4; I am inspired by his spirit to overcome one and after another blow; his work-ethic; he plays for team win instead of personal stats, his grateful attitude to all the people helped him, his coach, his teammates, the fans; his big heart of loving other people. He is my idol, my kid's role model.
ReplyDeleteJust like what he said, his story will inspire other people to chase their own dream.
He is a great human being. I hope and believe he will continue to influence more and more people in the future, in basketball,
beyond basketball, influence people of different nations.
Yes, Jeremy Lin is an inspiration to all people, not just Asians, or even sports fans.
DeleteUnfortunately there are people out there who can't see him as a good player, a good role model .... All they see is his race, and they treat him like he's some kind of curiosity.
Here's the complete list of the 100 Most Influential ------------> http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/completelist/0,29569,2111975,00.html
ReplyDeleteI'm so proud of Lin, he really deserve it. And yeah this is really true because I'm not an NBA fan. I like Michael Jordan but I'm not following him the way I follow Lin. I admire Lin so much, I subscribe to NBA league pass and pay $160 for one season, I upgrade my cable package to watch ESPN and TNT, I get a Sports package to watch MSG Chanel. I'm paying $60 more a month than my regular cable package before and all of this is because of the influence of Lin. I still watch the knicks game bec. I want them to win so Lin can play in the 2nd round of the playoff. Right now, I just watch the Jeremy Lin MSG Countdown that I recorded in my DVR and his highlight games in YouTube. I miss Lin, I'm praying for his speed recovery. I'm happy for his success. I will follow him until he retire :) I want my kids to grow up like him. He's a role model and a great leader in his team. Novak said "Jeremy makes us better". His teammates love him and believes in him, I hope jlin haters will stop hating this kid. I hope they respect him and look up at him. "I miss you Jeremy its really boring to watch the game w/o u". Take care & God Bless You!
I feel just like yours! I am not really a sport fan, because of jeremy Lin, I watched Knicks games, I miss Jeremy! It is fun to see him playing the basket ball, I watch his past games through YouTube repeatly!
DeleteFeel so robbed tho with the leaguepass, bought it towards end of Feb to watch JLin, and well I have it on Comcast lol have it only in SD...Then Jeremy injures himself grrrr...Have been watching other teams but other than OKC/LAC/Celtics/Spurs really don't have motivation to watch others...I've not watched Knicks games this week at all, Melo is so boring :/
Delete@Kenoshi I feel I was robbed too :( I subscribed third week of Feb also and pay the full price then after one week they cut the price to $89, but I said it's ok, I just want to watch Jeremy Lin then he got injured, I was disappointed not because Lin got injured but because people always trying to put him down, now that he's out they keep saying that they should trade him to Steve Nash. My question is WHY??? trading Jeremy is like trading 1/2 of Knicks fans. Did they already forget Lin's big contribution to this team? If it's not for Lin I'm not sure if Knicks will be in the playoff. Lin outplayed John Wall during D-league but didn't get a chance to show his talent in the NBA. John Wall continue to shine while Jeremy got cut twice. Where is John Wall now? His team is one of the worse team right now. JW is good PG but for me Lin is the best PG bec he carry his team to his shoulder and make his teammates shine. When they win He compliment his teammates and when they lose He blame himself alone. My husband asked me if I want to go on vacation to Las Vegas, I told him no, I want to go to New York or Chicago to watch their games. We didn't go because Jeremy is not playing, hopefully next year :) I miss Lin I want to see him in the courtside watching Knicks game because I want to make sure he's ok. He's always in my prayer everyday. I want him to be successful in his career. I wont get tired following him wherever or whatever team he go (but hopefully he stay to Knicks until he retire).
Deletecan you just call the nba and say you don't want league pass anymore and get a refund because jlin is not playing? that will show the nba how much lin means to their business.
Delete@jubeininja69 I tried that I call them and tried to cancel my NBA league pass but they said I can't get a refund because I already paid for one season. I told them Jeremy Lin is the only reason I subscribed for NBA league pass :( I always watch knicks games in my cellphone while driving when Lin still healthy and playing every game but now I just record it at my DVR and watch it later just to find out if the Knicks win and still in the playoff spot. I don't know, for me it's really exciting when Lin is playing. I like it when he shoot a 3 pts. shot and the announcer will say " Jeremy Lin from downtown" or "Jeremy Lin alley oop to Chandler" Now it's so boring for me to watch knicks game because I don't see a lot of ball movement and sometimes it looks like they just do their own shot and the ball is not properly distributed. Sometimes it looks like there's no teamwork. But when Jeremy was on that team everybody looks good especially Novak & Chandler.
DeleteAll you need to know about Stephen A "the racist bigot (unless you're black)" Smith is:
ReplyDelete- he said the n--- word was offensive but people were too sensitive about the c---k word for Asians.
- After Jeremy Lin's 26 games of averaging 17.5 points, 7.5 assists, 2 steals a game on 46% shooting, with entire team's highest PER and adjusted plus/minus, the best 4th quarter PER behind Chris Paul, and a top 5 PER among starting point guards, Stephen A Dumbo was STILL screaming on his radio show that Jeremy Lin was a marginal NBA bench player at best.
- He gleefully says Lin is exposed after every non-amazing game, despite the kid is only 23 years old
- Smith thinks that Lin is only famous because he's Asian (just that idiot Mayweather), and ignores the FACT and REALITY that if Lin was white or black, with his exact same skill set he would have gotten tons of D1 offers in college then been drafted top 10 in the NBA draft. Instead, Jeremy Lin is California's only HS Player of the Year to receive ZERO D1 scholarships, went undrafted, and was cut twice. He didn't magically become dramatically better, even the Knicks didn't know what they had and were about to cut him.
In terms of the Time Magazine ranking, take race out of this (even though the prejudice Lin overcame is real). Anyone who loves sports movies like Rocky, Rudy, The Natural, Hoosiers, or any underdog story has to LOVE this Jeremy Lin story. It's unbelievable. It's like the Kurt Warner or Tom Brady story but times x10 because Lin got no scholarships, was undrafted, and cut twice. As Steve Nash said, anyone who loves sports has to love this and those hating on Lin are insane. How can anyone hate on a kid only is only team-first, humble, and has worked hard to overcome so much.
Another thing to add is that most of Jeremy Lin fans are NOT Asian. In the arenas yes there are Asian fans who show up but look around, most fans who bought Jeremy Lin t-shirts and jerseys are white, black, hispanic fans too and entire families. I have seen so many white and black little kids wearing Lin shirts. It's easy to root for him. He's a clean-cut, hard working, humble, team-first guy, and A LOT OF FANS like him for that, many fans who were turned off by the NBA the past 10 years.
DeleteLin belongs on that list not only for his story, his popularity among people of all backgrounds, but also that he has dramatically raised the stock value of MSG, the TV networks are making a killing, tickets are sold, Knicks ticket prices at home and away games are 50% or more higher, and the #1 jersey is also Jeremy Lin's jersey. The kid has a LOT of popularity and only the anti-Asian bigots are trying to say it's only Asian fans.
True that, in the states he has a lot of non-asian fans, quite a few of my friends aren't asian and they're JLin fans.
DeleteIn Asia however its a different story, of course :D
Is it just me or Lin's injury is not too bad in the grand scheme of things? 1st, if Lin wasn't injuried, Melo probably wouldn't be as motiviated and so eager to prove that he is the main man. And while the Knicks in the long term of course was better with Lin, the short term result probably wasn't as good as of right now with Lin playing. 2nd, if Lin wasn't injuried, and Melo still exploded like he was doing now, Lin would become an afterthought and a role player to Melo. He would be no different to the likes of JR Smith and Novak. I think it would somewhat hurt Lin's status on the team IMO.
ReplyDeleteOf course, I love Jeremy to be healthy and playing. But as he has said, sometimes God works in a mysterious way. ;-)
Absolutely correct.
DeleteLin has turned the Knicks season around singlehandedly. If Linsanity didn't happen, the Knicks would be the same 8-15 team that looked terrible. Without Lin, Steve Novak would have continued to sit and JR Smith would've taking passes from Chris Paul.
The one thing I'd like to see Lin improve on is pacing himself during games. I'd like to see him play at a slightly slower pace but pick his spots more. Under Woodson, Lin showed signs of doing that.
I still am amazed how good a NBA player Lin has become. I have never seen anything like it, not even when John Starks funked and dunked his way from being an Oklahoma grocery bagger to a revered NBA All Star.
Especially Woodson's offense is to marginalize the role of a PG. I give Woodson and Melo credit to win games so consistently even with such poor PG play of Baron Davis, Shumpert and Bibby. This is something D'Antoni failed to do so. Woodson's ISO offense kinda works in the way like Phil Jackson's triangle offense that can get away of playing a mediocre PG. I would like to see how far they can go in the playoffs. If without Lin they reach the 2nd round or make it a competitive series against the Heat, it should be counted as major success. If they can go all way to the Finals, Melo will reach Dirk's status. But I highly doubt it. Lol.
DeleteYes, it's hard to believe the Knicks team now is the same team losing team before Lin's spark started; Lin pours heart into game and inspired the whole team; Lin also injected competition into some superstars, without Lin's threat, the superstars would play the game just like going to work like 9 to 5 worker, otherwise it's hard to believe the team with so many healthy superstars would have 8-15 record in the regular season.
DeleteWithout Lin, we may not see the what Carmelo could deliver
as he did in April.
The Knicks are still winning without Jeremy Lin. But it's how they are winning that is cause for concern.
DeleteMost of their points are coming from Melo, J.R. Smith, and Iman Shumpert in that order. There is no longer an even distribution of scoring.
With Jeremy Lin, any Knick player can be a high scorer. He would find the open player, and create offense by driving into the defense.
Now with this new team, Melo's team, anybody can shut down their offense by putting extra defense on Melo.
This accolade jeremy received makes me think about fame, its glory and destruction. While leading a famous life is like a dream come true, it can't be good for your personal life. You can't go out to your usual places esp. in a small city like manhantan. No movies, broadway shows, going to centralpark, riding the subway, dating, or just doing juvenile things. Now that Jeremy is still young it's ok. You can take NY and the weather for only so long. After 2 YEARS I think he will yearn to come back to someplace like california, where he can live a more normal life. Lol. NY is an experiment and a testing ground. We will see...the saga continues
ReplyDeletei for one dont want to be famous because of the Aspie in me but i think Jlin is equipped to be famous. I wonder if he will make movies like MJ and Shaq lol. But he did made some youtube video which include bit of acting so maybe. Im sure he'll get use to the attention and maybe even like it in the long run.
DeleteAnother nasty remarks about Jeremy by A Smith:
ReplyDelete"When Mike D'Antoni decided to veer away from both and make Jeremy Lin a savior, Lin had the audacity to jack up more shots than Stoudemire, with the unwavering support of the now-departed coach."
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/7819499/new-york-knicks-melo-plus-healthy-amare-spell-trouble
Urgh!
I hate A. Smith
DeleteStephen A is not very intelligent. Jeremy Lin's avg shots per game went down to only about 12 under Mike Woodson, but that deosn't mean that EVERY SINGLE game Amare and Carmelo must shoot more, that's just idiotic especially when Melo was shooting 39% for the season and not trying at all. Stephen A tries to blame Lin while ignoring that Melo's laziness led the Knicks to a 0.300 record the past 2 years before Linsanity.
DeleteThere's no point writing any more other than to say Stephen A Smith is a CLOWN and a racist bigot (unless you're black, then he loves you no matter what).
Please don't include links to Steven A Smith trash or any other garbage links. The more we click, the more it supports these idiots- I work in the software industry and page clicks are a huge metric for the press. You are unknowingly supporting him.
ReplyDeleteSteven A is one of the few media people out there whom I believe is truly bigoted and has some strange Malcolm X type agenda. He simply can't fathom that an Asian man has come into "his people's" sport in his town.
Sorry for the tangent, but....
5 years ago it was unfathomable to have a black president...I even commented to my brother that it is unlikely that we would ever see a black president in our lifetime. Though you may or may not agree with his politics, Obama's election to the presidency became a symbol of transcending all odds and making the impossible seem a reality. His election as president was a great moment for all minorities and personally gave me a lot of hope. Likewise, I think Jeremy has done the same thing, and his successes should give all minorities the hope that insurmountable racial stereotypes can be overcome regardless of whether you are black, Mexican, etc. It's too bad idiots like Steven A can't understand this.
Although I disagree that page click equates to support for the writer...well, you are right, we just have to ignore idiots like Steven A.
DeleteNicely put jlinisasuperhero! Exactly my thoughts. There's so much hypocritical thinking in some American communities that's its simply ridiculous. We should all embrace Jeremy Lin and his accomplishments.
DeleteI truly believe more Asian players will get into pro American sports in the future
I'm not sure I understand why you disagree with that. Please elaborate. These web-sites make money by advertising and driving more traffic to their pages results in increased revenue. Even if 2 million people hate Steven A Smith, but still click on the links, they still get money from it, and it increases Steven A Smith's standing with ESPN. That's all they care about...so you are in effect supporting them by providing these trash links.
ReplyDeleteI tend to think that reading an article doesn't mean that I agree with the points the writer is making and support the stand that the writer makes. Maybe it's just how this industry measures the money-churning ability of writers, then I rest my case.
DeleteSAS <- simply obessed with Jeremy. He mentions Jeremy at every chance even he's not even playing. ;-)
ReplyDeleteI say we should continue reading Stephen A Smith's ESPN rants.
ReplyDeleteThat way, we can make him a punching bag too. I've had lots of fun punking racists like him on this thread.
I also support ANY writings about Lin and other NBA players, even if they are negative. I'm a businessman, so all publicity is good publicity!
As Lin gets used to playing in the NBA, Stephen A Smith will keep Lin's name in the papers. That is because Smith is one of Lin's biggest FANS.
Remember that if Lin couldn't play like Yi Jianlian, nobody would write articles about him. And if articles were written, it would be of the patronizing "He's trying so hard but just can't quite make it" variety.
Lin attracts negative attention because he CLOWNS people like Smith that originally thought he couldn't play because he's Asian. The better Lin plays, the stupider Smith looks and feels.
I agree that Stephen A Smith's idiocy shouldn't be rewarded. On the other hand, Jeremy Lin deserves to be defended from d-bags like Stephen A and his moronic followers who think Lin is only famous because he's Asian, that Lin is a marginal player still, and that n---- is offensive while c---k is no big deal.
ReplyDeleteIf anyone does click on that CLOWN's articles, please be sure to trash him multiple times in the comments.
My opinion - just ignore him & those moron anti-Lin!
DeleteWhy do people read/listen to the drivel that SAS spouts? People like SAS and Skip Bayless purposely make outrageous statements to get a reaction and attention. The more you get agitated, the more successful they are. You should treat them like a KKK rally, instead of holding a counter rally, just ignore them, and they'll go away. The worst response you can do is to argue back, because that's exactly the attention they want.
ReplyDeleteHonestly, Woodson's continued ass-kissing of Anthony and Amare and hidden dismissing of Lin and D'Antoni ball is quite disgusting. But if it produces results, then why not? NBA is a star's league. MDA's sharing the ball philosophy is nice and fun and all but probably too ideal and more suitable for college and not NBA. Also, Anthony especially is a Dolan favorite. Can you really blame Woodson to appease his employer in order to keep his job? And I think sooner Lin will understand this cruel fact and probably also needs to change a bit to adapt to this league.
ReplyDeleteAlso, probably the same can be applied to SAS. I think he just wants to appease Anthony etc so that he can be friendly with them and get them to do exclusive interviews. One day when Lin becomes a superstar of his own, I believe SAS will kiss Lin's ass hard as well. Haha.
DeleteSAS is trying to be one of those new Sports Radio Shock Jocks like Jim Rome. He knows that he's not going to get anywhere by being the nice guy and respecting athletes. Sports fans have such short attention spans nowadays, that they will only respond to verbal insults and obsessive rants. He wants to say things that are against the norm, outside the realm of decency.
DeleteThis is what has happened to sports news over the years. Nobody cares about a sport unless there is some "Controversy".
There's no point in arguing with SAS, ignoring him is the best way to go. Learn from Jlin people. Ignore the haters
DeleteWell I read the news now that Landry is demoted to the bench and Shumpert is the new starting SG. It really looks like Woodson does not like Lin and his guys and caters hard to Melo and Melo's guys. :-(
ReplyDeleteI wonder if Lin does return, will he need to prove himself again from the bench again? Also, next season, when everyone is healthy, will Woodson still prefer Davis/Bibby as the starting PG as he seems to love and do that to appease Melo? Especially if they can go far in the playoffs with this lineup without Lin, they will have the excuse of "if it isn't broken, don't change it"...
Deleteokay Lin is injured the PG in the line-up are davis,bibby and douglas. Unfortunately douglas is delivering d-leaguer performance so i dont know what ur talking about playing those two to appease Melo. Woodson only got those in the PG position when Lin is healthy he will start again no question ask unless Woodson is a fool and doesnt want to win. Landry was demoted to the bench because my heart breaks a little by saying this.... well he kinda sucks lately. I dont know what happened.. sophomore slump, shorten season slump. Whatever it is i think people are too worried about Jlin not being able to adjust to Woodson's coaching when its really landry's that's struggling which resulted to his demotion. Hope next season he finds his shots and rhythm again.
DeleteI really think that Baron, JR Smith and Shumpert are Melo's guys. You can see how they cater to Melo on the court and in interviews and Melo likes it. Their personality off the court also seem to match. Lin and Landry well not so much. In a Shumpert interview recently, he said how Melo acts as a leader and urges him to improve to help him win a championship. You probably wouldn't see Melo say something like this to Lin, if ever.
ReplyDeleteany one has news on Lin's injury update ? is he running yet?
ReplyDeleteIt's weird that there is ZERO news on his recovery..
I smell something wrong...
i can understand smith because they both came from denver but baron and Shump nah they are d'antoni's player. Of course they cater to melo thats what the coach is telling them to do thats how the plays are called. And do you expect them to slam Melo in interviews. they play for the same team for christ sake. ur not even allow to slam players from other team... its called an unportsman like behaviour. Why do fans put color to everything. Dont believe everything you read in the paper. The drama is what sells the paper or so they think. Its not Melo or baron or shump or smith that said Linsanity is dead its the PRESS. If its anyone who like to make up non-existing fight between players or pit players against each other its the Press. Im a Jlin fan and since i know he is the type that tries to get along with everybody i like to think he likes everyone in the Knicks and that includes Melo.
ReplyDeleteLin needs to work on his jump shot in off season.
ReplyDeletehe can't just reply on driving to basket to score. Once he has reliable mid range jumper and 3 point shooting, he will be complete. Right now, he is only half way there.
plus, not driving/banging all the time will save his body for long time career to come.
Learn from Tony Parker, Lin.
Well, Tony Parker wouldn't have a midrange jump shot or a 3 pointer if he didn't have the great Tim Duncan setting screens for him.
DeleteTim Duncan is still the best player in the NBA, as far as I am concerned. That guy is the most devastating two way weapon in basketball. The Spurs are essentially a one man team revolving around the most unselfish Hall of Famer in basketball history.
any one has news on Lin's injury update ? is he running yet?
ReplyDeleteIt's weird that there is ZERO news on his recovery..
I smell something wrong...
Last I heard, he was riding the stationary bike but not doing anything serious.
DeleteIt sounds like they are really sticking to his return in the 2nd round of the playoffs (If the Knicks can make it that far, which they probably won't.)
DeleteSo even if Lin is healthy enough to return to the court faster, they might hold him out until after the 1st round of playoffs, because they don't want to risk it.
I think the 6 week time table has already been set.
There is a possibility that the reason that Jeremy is not posting news about his recovery is that he DOESN"T want to. He's a private guy. The last thing he would want to do is go on twitter: "Got out of the shower. Ate breakfast. Pedaled on bike. Took a nap." I respect that he's keeping it private. Rest and privacy is what he deserves.
DeleteI remember I read somewhere Lin told reporters, he is fine but he can not talk to reports, maybe one week after surgery. He didn't update his facebook, or twitter that much. He didn't upload any new video, thought he would have time for that. Don't know what is going on.
ReplyDeleteThat's makes me worried too. I look everyday for Lin's news that's why I check this website every hour because I want an update about Jeremy. Any suggestion how we can show our love and support for him? Anybody knows his official fans club? I want to sign up and be a member. I support him 100% for better or worse I will not get tired to support him. Who knows how to contact Jeremy's foundation? I want donate $10-$50 a month to show my support for him. I want this kid to be successful in his career in many, many years to come. I think if Jeremy's fans will donate $1.00 to $10.00 a month, the money will help his foundation to grow and he can help more children and make a big difference in their life. I like him because he was humble, kind, generous, smart and always give praises and thanks to God to all his blessings that he received.
ReplyDeleteDid anyone see Jeremy Lin at Time100 Gala last night??? He posted pics from the event on FB and damn I don't know if he gotten skinnier or they suit was slim as fuck, lol... He didn't look like the Jeremy Lin I'm used to seeing but more like the F.O.B Asian, lol...
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