Stephen A. Smith is blaming Lin for D'antoni's demise. He also said, "Jeremy Lin is an average pg, he is not a star. He needs to learn how to dribble with his left hand and play some defense." He thinks the volume of his tone makes his statement a fact. What a d-bag.
I'm certainly no expert, but virtually every non-Knick commentator has mentioned Amare and Carmelo's lack of defense. Sean Elliot was especially brutal. 28 offensive rebounds by the other team? Was that Lin's fault? Why weren't they winning before Lin?
Look at it from the bigger picture... Lin has been dealing with comments like this all his life and the more he hears negativity, the bigger the chip on his shoulder. And the bigger the chip, the stronger the motivation to elevate his game. It's a good thing because frankly, Lin is very hard to dislike and a lot of writers and reporters have been treating him with kid gloves.
stephen a. is a black man defending a fellow black player. Just trying to defend his people. I would think African American men all feel similar to what that black boxer said. It's jealousy and enviousness. Lin should keep that chip on his shoulder cause this will never stop - I mean never.
bottom line is that a black man will defend another and don't be surprised or offended at such event. 85% of NBA is black - the last thing they want is a bunch of Jeremy Lin's running around NBA arenas.....Gotta keep Yellow man down.
No, I've heard many Black people criticize Carmelo Anthony, Stephen A. has a personal friendship with Carmelo and has more loyalty to him than to an overnight sensation Asian American point guard.
You could say that Stephen A. is a Carmelo superfan.
He's a flip flopper. He said Lin was the real deal a few weeks ago. Sick of people talking like this season didn't start with Melo controlling the ball. They were 8 games under .500!!!!!!!!
Lin's critics are right in that his weaknesses have been exploited - at least by the good teams - since the league caught up to him. Lin's struggles on both ends have been one of the reasons, in combination with the other reasons, the Knicks have been losing. I don't think Lin has been the main culprit, but they're not losing despite him. Lin raised the bar for judging him by leading the Knicks back into the play-offs, but now they've fallen back out of the the play-offs. Reasonably, his struggles are part of a normal learning curve for a young player who needs extra catching up since he didn't compete at the highest level in previous stages.
D'Antoni quitting is bad for Lin because D'Antoni was committed to giving Lin all the space and time he needed for his learning curve. Lin won over D'Antoni completely last month and as long as D'Antoni was his head coach, Lin was protected. Under D'Antoni's care, Lin most likely would have been able to play through his struggles with a consistent 33+ MPG and figure it out.
Now with D'Antoni out, I don't know that the Lin's next and future coaches will give him as much latitude. Losing tars everything and Lin's struggles have been part of the problem. The fear is that the next and future coaches will weigh Lin's weaknesses over his strengths.
If D'Antoni gets another head coaching job in the NBA, though, moreso if he also gets GM powers to fit players to his system, Lin should have a place to go.
Stephen A is a racist. He defends Melo blindly. Knicks were 10-23 with Melo and 8-1 without him. D'Antoni's Knicks played great defense without Melo. Last night Melo didn't join the Knicks huddle in the 4th quarter, he's a cancer and not a leader, he's the next Vince Carter.
Stephen A HAS TO GO (said in his ghetto voice). Last night he called Lin a marginal NBA player and said he was right all along despite Linsanity. Stephen A is exactly the subtle bigot some here have pointed out in terms of commentary around Jeremy Lin.
I wonder if Stephen A ever mentions that Carmelo has more chins than a Chinese phone book. How about getting on Anthony's case about not having a NBA physique?
The radio rant with Van Pelt was completely laughable. Lin is a marginal player?! Name the # of marginal players that can average 20/10 in this league. Who can dump 38 on the Lakers. Who can revive the hopes of a franchise in a short 10 game span?
No. The real problem is Melo and that's clear to everyone who watches the Knicks.
I will still watch games and support Jeremy Lin. This Knicks team could have been great somewhere down the road, but they will suffer for the next several seasons. They don't have draft picks in 2012, or salary cap flexibility for the next couple years.
They could have been a great comeback story. But now it's just reinforcing NBA stereotypes .... it's all about superstars with egos.
I don't tune in to NBA to watch other people's dysfunctions on display. There's enough of that on reality tv. I want Linsanity back. Knicks had a winning formula on their hands and they are throwing it away. NBA potentially will lose million of fans if this Camelo/Michael A Smith crap keeps up.
Melo will get booed like never before tonight in the Garden. It will be thunderous and it will be personal. I have to think Melo is not looking forward to this game. I don't know how the knicks can win tonight with all the distractions and the back stabbing. I bet JR Smith and Baron Davis get more playing time and Lin and Fields less. I bet Amare and Melo play 40 minutes each and take 20 shots each as the interim coach placates his big salary players. LIn is about to be screwed. Lin just has to stay positive and get that midlevel contract next season and get financially secure then he can figure out everything else.
Yeah, I don't see how Carmelo deserves this much star treatment to actually dictate every TEAM decision.
He won an NCAA Championship in 2003. But he's one of the reasons why Team USA ended up with a bronze medal at the 2004 Olympics. Lack of defense and fundamentals.
He's already done enough such that teams around the NBA would covet his ability. Lin will earn a nice contract one day and be an established NBA rotation player. If the Knicks don't want him, plenty of other NBA teams will. No matter who is coaching, Lin will continue to exhibit NBA athleticism and skill. I already know that Lin can fit seamlessly into whatever scheme is drawn up for him.
The trade deadline is coming soon. I say trade a second round draft pick from my Phx Suns to NY for Lin if the Knicks don't want him. Then I would enjoy seeing Lin take over for Steve Nash.
I'm not worried about JLin. Teams like the Suns throw a ton of $$ at unproven players like Marcus Banks, a legit team will throw $ at Jeremy when he's a free agent. I would welcome JLin going to the bench b/c when he's an restricted FA this summer, he'll get offered starter-worthy salaries, and the Knicks might be reluctant to match.
Melo is a cancer. All you have to do is watch the games and it'll be confirmed in the first half.
To put everything in perspective, JLin had set a goal to somehow get more playing time and get into someone's rotation. Well, This season has already exceeded all expectations. No matter what happens the rest of this season, Jeremy had proven that he can play in the NBA and will be playing for many years to come.
Agreed. At the least, Lin proved he belongs in the NBA. That wasn't at all a sure thing before Feb 4. In and of itself, securing a place in the NBA - even if only as an "average" player - is a great achievement for a Taiwanese American young man. For all of us. Lin's victories, both team and personal, in February raised the bar of our expectations sky high. But we shouldn't forget that when he subbed into the Nets game on Feb 4, our biggest hope was he would prove he belonged in the NBA by the time management decided whether to guarantee his contract later that week. As Lin fans, we went from being excited just to watch him get a little run in garbage time to giddily watching him play 30-40+ minutes every game. Every Knicks game since Feb 4 has been an event for us.
Even if Lin never returns to the heights of Linsanity, this time has been a gift.
He certainly exceeded his $800K contract, and he will be in a better position to negotiate with Knicks. There should be some teams that would want to offer a lot more money for him. I would rather see him play with 2nd Unit (Amare and Anthony can play in 1st Unit with Baron Davis as a PG), so people can judge who are the weak links. Let whichever Unit is playing better play longer each game. I am hoping that the new coach will try this approach.
Why? Baron is a loser who has never played on a winning team. It's best for Lin and the Knicks to develop Jeremy with 30+ mins a game, not prove any silly points about the 2nd unit.
Let JLin play with 2nd Unit, without Amare and Anthony, and if 1st Unit plays better, then Jlin can't complain. If 2nd Unit plays better, then the 2nd Unit should start. That's fair.
You see how without Amare and Anthony on the floor, Knicks are much more fluid team regardless of whether B. Davis or JLin is a PG? That's what I am saying. I rather have JLin play as much with other players and not when the two superstarts are on the floor.
You're not saying anything people don't see. But you're suggesting that Lin play less which is ridiculous. Lin is better than Baron and also more valuable for the future. Keep giving Lin 30+ minutes and get more creative with taking the "star" forwards out of games earlier in the 1st quarter
This is messed up. The Blazers are in just a big of mess as the knicks. Unfortunately, this is a statement game for Melo and Amare to say "it was the coach's fault after all and part of that is his support for Jeremy". My biggest hope is that the playing time goes down for jlin and that the Knicks keep losing. Unfortunately though, I'm thinking Amare and Melo are going to finally play some inspired basketball because they now really have something to prove. The Knicks need to be blown up at this point..let's hope they don't have a mini-run and somehow make it into the playoffs with these egotistical me-first clowns. BTW, Steven A and Carmelo are boys (remember the famous "I can play with Jeremy lin interview)...Steven a is just an idiot.
It's funny when Stephen A. goes all ACLU / Al Sharpton on people for making racial comments about Jeremy Lin. Then goes on to call Jeremy Lin an average to below avg. point guard.
Let's be honest. JLin has NOT been playing all that great during last 6 or 7 games. I would be happy if he scores 8 points (on 5 to 7 shots) and gets 12 to 14 assists per game with 3 TOs. If he does that, I would consider him playing great.
How can he score 12 to 14 assists per game if the players around him can't shoot ? And if he throws them a great pass, and they did not get in position to receive it ... why is that a turnover on the passer's end ?
You guys need to learn to ignore people like Stephen A Smith and Skip Bayless. Their entire shtick is to make outrageous, controversial statements to stir up viewership and attract attention. You're falling right into their trap. They're like the Westboro Baptist Church of sports.
Stephen A. Smith is blaming Lin for D'antoni's demise. He also said, "Jeremy Lin is an average pg, he is not a star. He needs to learn how to dribble with his left hand and play some defense." He thinks the volume of his tone makes his statement a fact. What a d-bag.
ReplyDeleteHe said worse than that,he is a racist. He doesn't even like Manny Pacquiao and Tim Tebow. He was defending Melo, like he did nothing wrong.
DeleteI'm certainly no expert, but virtually every non-Knick commentator has mentioned Amare and Carmelo's lack of defense. Sean Elliot was especially brutal. 28 offensive rebounds by the other team? Was that Lin's fault? Why weren't they winning before Lin?
DeleteStephen A Smith makes me sick.
he is probably just saying that to get some responses. It's for attention.
DeleteLin's been average or worse since the Linsanity line-up and system were taken away from him.
DeleteLook at it from the bigger picture... Lin has been dealing with comments like this all his life and the more he hears negativity, the bigger the chip on his shoulder. And the bigger the chip, the stronger the motivation to elevate his game. It's a good thing because frankly, Lin is very hard to dislike and a lot of writers and reporters have been treating him with kid gloves.
Deletestephen a. is a black man defending a fellow black player. Just trying to defend his people. I would think African American men all feel similar to what that black boxer said. It's jealousy and enviousness. Lin should keep that chip on his shoulder cause this will never stop - I mean never.
Deletebottom line is that a black man will defend another and don't be surprised or offended at such event. 85% of NBA is black - the last thing they want is a bunch of Jeremy Lin's running around NBA arenas.....Gotta keep Yellow man down.
DeleteNo, I've heard many Black people criticize Carmelo Anthony, Stephen A. has a personal friendship with Carmelo and has more loyalty to him than to an overnight sensation Asian American point guard.
DeleteYou could say that Stephen A. is a Carmelo superfan.
He's a flip flopper. He said Lin was the real deal a few weeks ago. Sick of people talking like this season didn't start with Melo controlling the ball. They were 8 games under .500!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteLin's critics are right in that his weaknesses have been exploited - at least by the good teams - since the league caught up to him. Lin's struggles on both ends have been one of the reasons, in combination with the other reasons, the Knicks have been losing. I don't think Lin has been the main culprit, but they're not losing despite him. Lin raised the bar for judging him by leading the Knicks back into the play-offs, but now they've fallen back out of the the play-offs. Reasonably, his struggles are part of a normal learning curve for a young player who needs extra catching up since he didn't compete at the highest level in previous stages.
ReplyDeleteD'Antoni quitting is bad for Lin because D'Antoni was committed to giving Lin all the space and time he needed for his learning curve. Lin won over D'Antoni completely last month and as long as D'Antoni was his head coach, Lin was protected. Under D'Antoni's care, Lin most likely would have been able to play through his struggles with a consistent 33+ MPG and figure it out.
Now with D'Antoni out, I don't know that the Lin's next and future coaches will give him as much latitude. Losing tars everything and Lin's struggles have been part of the problem. The fear is that the next and future coaches will weigh Lin's weaknesses over his strengths.
If D'Antoni gets another head coaching job in the NBA, though, moreso if he also gets GM powers to fit players to his system, Lin should have a place to go.
The NYTimes piece seems to place a lot of blame on Melo:
ReplyDeletemobile.nytimes.com/2012/03/15/sports/basketball/mike-dantoni-resigns-as-knicks-coach.xml
i hope the thought of getting the hell out of NY crosses lin's mind. hopefully to dallas..
ReplyDeleteStephen A is a racist. He defends Melo blindly. Knicks were 10-23 with Melo and 8-1 without him. D'Antoni's Knicks played great defense without Melo. Last night Melo didn't join the Knicks huddle in the 4th quarter, he's a cancer and not a leader, he's the next Vince Carter.
ReplyDeleteStephen A HAS TO GO (said in his ghetto voice). Last night he called Lin a marginal NBA player and said he was right all along despite Linsanity. Stephen A is exactly the subtle bigot some here have pointed out in terms of commentary around Jeremy Lin.
I wonder if Stephen A ever mentions that Carmelo has more chins than a Chinese phone book. How about getting on Anthony's case about not having a NBA physique?
DeleteThe radio rant with Van Pelt was completely laughable. Lin is a marginal player?! Name the # of marginal players that can average 20/10 in this league. Who can dump 38 on the Lakers. Who can revive the hopes of a franchise in a short 10 game span?
DeleteNo. The real problem is Melo and that's clear to everyone who watches the Knicks.
http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/20299/carmelo-anthony-joy-wrecker
I will still watch games and support Jeremy Lin. This Knicks team could have been great somewhere down the road, but they will suffer for the next several seasons. They don't have draft picks in 2012, or salary cap flexibility for the next couple years.
ReplyDeleteThey could have been a great comeback story. But now it's just reinforcing NBA stereotypes .... it's all about superstars with egos.
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ReplyDeleteI don't tune in to NBA to watch other people's dysfunctions on display. There's enough of that on reality tv. I want Linsanity back. Knicks had a winning formula on their hands and they are throwing it away. NBA potentially will lose million of fans if this Camelo/Michael A Smith crap keeps up.
ReplyDeleteMelo will get booed like never before tonight in the Garden. It will be thunderous and it will be personal. I have to think Melo is not looking forward to this game. I don't know how the knicks can win tonight with all the distractions and the back stabbing. I bet JR Smith and Baron Davis get more playing time and Lin and Fields less. I bet Amare and Melo play 40 minutes each and take 20 shots each as the interim coach placates his big salary players. LIn is about to be screwed. Lin just has to stay positive and get that midlevel contract next season and get financially secure then he can figure out everything else.
ReplyDeleteYeah, I don't see how Carmelo deserves this much star treatment to actually dictate every TEAM decision.
DeleteHe won an NCAA Championship in 2003. But he's one of the reasons why Team USA ended up with a bronze medal at the 2004 Olympics. Lack of defense and fundamentals.
I'm not the least bit worried about Jeremy Lin.
ReplyDeleteHe's already done enough such that teams around the NBA would covet his ability. Lin will earn a nice contract one day and be an established NBA rotation player. If the Knicks don't want him, plenty of other NBA teams will.
No matter who is coaching, Lin will continue to exhibit NBA athleticism and skill. I already know that Lin can fit seamlessly into whatever scheme is drawn up for him.
The trade deadline is coming soon. I say trade a second round draft pick from my Phx Suns to NY for Lin if the Knicks don't want him. Then I would enjoy seeing Lin take over for Steve Nash.
I'm not worried about JLin. Teams like the Suns throw a ton of $$ at unproven players like Marcus Banks, a legit team will throw $ at Jeremy when he's a free agent. I would welcome JLin going to the bench b/c when he's an restricted FA this summer, he'll get offered starter-worthy salaries, and the Knicks might be reluctant to match.
DeleteMelo is a cancer. All you have to do is watch the games and it'll be confirmed in the first half.
To put everything in perspective, JLin had set a goal to somehow get more playing time and get into someone's rotation. Well, This season has already exceeded all expectations. No matter what happens the rest of this season, Jeremy had proven that he can play in the NBA and will be playing for many years to come.
ReplyDeleteAgreed. At the least, Lin proved he belongs in the NBA. That wasn't at all a sure thing before Feb 4. In and of itself, securing a place in the NBA - even if only as an "average" player - is a great achievement for a Taiwanese American young man. For all of us. Lin's victories, both team and personal, in February raised the bar of our expectations sky high. But we shouldn't forget that when he subbed into the Nets game on Feb 4, our biggest hope was he would prove he belonged in the NBA by the time management decided whether to guarantee his contract later that week. As Lin fans, we went from being excited just to watch him get a little run in garbage time to giddily watching him play 30-40+ minutes every game. Every Knicks game since Feb 4 has been an event for us.
DeleteEven if Lin never returns to the heights of Linsanity, this time has been a gift.
+800,000
DeleteHe certainly exceeded his $800K contract, and he will be in a better position to negotiate with Knicks. There should be some teams that would want to offer a lot more money for him. I would rather see him play with 2nd Unit (Amare and Anthony can play in 1st Unit with Baron Davis as a PG), so people can judge who are the weak links. Let whichever Unit is playing better play longer each game. I am hoping that the new coach will try this approach.
ReplyDeleteI don't think he would want to come back to a team where the star does not want to play team ball.
DeleteThe "1st unit" is 10-23 this year, no need to confirm failure without Jeremy Lin
DeleteYou have to also give B. Davis a chance. As I said, let Davis play most of the time with Amare and Anthony.
DeleteWhy? Baron is a loser who has never played on a winning team. It's best for Lin and the Knicks to develop Jeremy with 30+ mins a game, not prove any silly points about the 2nd unit.
Deletethis is bad, i see JLin back on the bench.
ReplyDeleteAnother situation where a temporary coach will rely heavily on big names and probably not give Lin a chance
DeleteLet JLin play with 2nd Unit, without Amare and Anthony, and if 1st Unit plays better, then Jlin can't complain. If 2nd Unit plays better, then the 2nd Unit should start. That's fair.
ReplyDeleteWhy not start the Linsanity unit and bench Melonoma first.
DeleteWhichever Unit plays better. Yes, that was the first option. When I say 1st Unit, I didn't necessarily mean 1st Unit would start first.
DeleteSo Woodson apparently loves the ISO. In Atlanta, his offense was kwown as ISO-Joe (as in Joe Johnson).
ReplyDeleteWhat's the over/under on Melo's shot attempts this next game?
I say close to 30 at least.
Melo will wait a game or two. Knicks fans are deservedly BOOING him today
DeleteD'Antoni = broken egg
ReplyDeletemelo = rotten egg
linsanity = golden egg
Knicks = scrambled egg
Delete1st quarter only 9 minutes played Melo already with 7 shots. Ugh
ReplyDeletePortland sucks bad, so that Knicks should be able to win no matter how many shots Anthony takes. Portland is even worse than Knicks.
DeleteLooks like Lin will def be getting less minutes now.
DeleteNo way Knicks would be leading by 10 points after 1st quarter against other teams the way they played.
ReplyDeleteYou see how without Amare and Anthony on the floor, Knicks are much more fluid team regardless of whether B. Davis or JLin is a PG? That's what I am saying. I rather have JLin play as much with other players and not when the two superstarts are on the floor.
ReplyDeleteYou're not saying anything people don't see. But you're suggesting that Lin play less which is ridiculous. Lin is better than Baron and also more valuable for the future. Keep giving Lin 30+ minutes and get more creative with taking the "star" forwards out of games earlier in the 1st quarter
DeleteYeah the Blazers suck.
ReplyDeleteEven MSG broadcasters are saying "Blazers are just what the doctor ordered." :)
DeleteI can see Blazers' coach getting fired pretty soon.
DeleteThis is messed up. The Blazers are in just a big of mess as the knicks. Unfortunately, this is a statement game for Melo and Amare to say "it was the coach's fault after all and part of that is his support for Jeremy". My biggest hope is that the playing time goes down for jlin and that the Knicks keep losing. Unfortunately though, I'm thinking Amare and Melo are going to finally play some inspired basketball because they now really have something to prove. The Knicks need to be blown up at this point..let's hope they don't have a mini-run and somehow make it into the playoffs with these egotistical me-first clowns. BTW, Steven A and Carmelo are boys (remember the famous "I can play with Jeremy lin interview)...Steven a is just an idiot.
ReplyDeleteIt's funny when Stephen A. goes all ACLU / Al Sharpton on people for making racial comments about Jeremy Lin.
ReplyDeleteThen goes on to call Jeremy Lin an average to below avg. point guard.
Let's be honest. JLin has NOT been playing all that great during last 6 or 7 games. I would be happy if he scores 8 points (on 5 to 7 shots) and gets 12 to 14 assists per game with 3 TOs. If he does that, I would consider him playing great.
DeleteHow can he score 12 to 14 assists per game if the players around him can't shoot ?
DeleteAnd if he throws them a great pass, and they did not get in position to receive it ... why is that a turnover on the passer's end ?
You guys need to learn to ignore people like Stephen A Smith and Skip Bayless. Their entire shtick is to make outrageous, controversial statements to stir up viewership and attract attention. You're falling right into their trap. They're like the Westboro Baptist Church of sports.
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