Saturday, February 11, 2012

Sour Grapes?

Read these two articles. Are they watching the same thing we are?


36 comments:

  1. I think Monte Poole is off base and what better than prove the writers wrong. And Steimetz was never a Lin fan. Both will change there tone if he proves them wrong with a season or more of consistency. And see how the "complete" team will come together will be another story in itself.

    Players have hot streaks, and it's hard to tell if this is a hot streak or not. If Linning is still popular in 1 month or 2 that will prove them wrong. Regardless of what will happen I'll always be a fan. And with his work ethic and more off seasons I am sure he will improve the "grey" areas with time.

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  3. As JLin said, he did not feel that he needed to prove to anyone for anything. He focused on the games and balled at his best. Let those ignorant people say whatever they want to say. We have been through all of these, haven't we? Time will prove they are wrong.

    Yes, indeed, the grapes are too sour and we don't need to eat it (or just throw up).

    I believe in Jeremy Lin. I think that he has done his best. He is not perfect and he has some stuff to work on. But I am a proud fan of him. Tonight, the Knicks had a tough fight but I enjoyed watching it. It was a perfect performance of a team play. I hope all of them have some good rest in the weekend.

    Jeremy Lin is a great player and a great person. His God is AWESOME!

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    1. as a ball player, the moment you know you can hit 38 in a game against the Lakers, that is only going to make you even more confident. Defenses can do whatever they want, he'll make the play- that's what Diepenbrock said about him in the NY Times article when he entered the league, that's what he says about himself: take what the defense gives you and make the play. And that's exactly why he's special, he reads and adjusts. Agree, let everyone focus on his "weak defense", "poor shooting form", "weak lateral movement", "weak left hand" etc., time will tell.

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  4. Steinmetz has always given Lin a hard time, so that's not so surprising. I hope he eats his words...

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  5. I think we should all move on past the Warriors and their media. Who cares if they are blind and refuse to recognize that the skills that Lin has displayed in the past week (penetration, passing, floor general, defense, energizing the entire team to play better) are not just the result of a hot shooting streak.

    Neither Lin nor his fans need to convince these fools of anything. Steinmetz actually wrote that "he's not yet the starting point guard" (his reasoning being that Lin's only starting because of Baron's injury). Lin's play will speak for itself.

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  6. Now let's see. Magic Johnson called Lin "the real deal."

    But Matt Steinmetz and Monty Poole say he's a fluke.

    Gee, I wonder whom people should trust? The Hall of Fame point-guard and all-time NBA great? Or a pair of random talking-heads covering Lin's former team?

    Real tough decision there. Hahahaha.

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  7. JLinFan#1:

    I know you got a comment not to embed youtube videos. I think you should continue to embed youtube videos. It helps a lot to see a visual before playing the video. They shouldn't cause the page to load that slowly (unless you're using dialup LOL), because the youtube videos don't start downloading until you click play. If someone really has issues with page load speed, they can go to the mobile site: http://www.jeremylin.net/?m=1

    I do have a suggestion for improving the site: a new banner graphic. The current one is way too big, it takes up the entire screen. A banner should only be 1/4 or 1/3 of the current height. I think a real photo would look better too. Maybe you can do a poll to vote on some ideas?

    Your website hits must have exploded this week! If you don't mind sharing, I was just curious how many hits you got before and after?

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  8. real, thanks for the suggestions and all of your posts. We're actually working on a few things as we speak. We'll try to get input from all of you as well. However, tuff to do things quick when we all have day jobs, kids, etc..Yeah, huge increase in hits, over 12X.

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  9. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fREGE1Q7Fcs#t=8m50s

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  10. As a Warriors fan, I'm familiar with both guys. I generally like Monte Poole's writing and he is pretty level headed when he is on a local TV sports talk show. Steinmetz also used to be writer and got into a TV gig. He was FREAKING BAD in his early days but has gotten better. However, he is also pretty pig headed in his beliefs.

    For Poole, I am surprised he took the stance that Jeremy won't keep up this level of play. Poole is fair and says that Jeremy has broken barriers. But if Jeremy has broken barriers, then using the comparisons in the article are also not relevant.

    For Steinmetz, he will never admit it, but he has changed his tone on Lin. He never thought he was a good player last season. But with Lin going off, he can't just simply dismiss Lin completely so he does this half assed job.

    All of this being said, one thing I think is these guys are INTENTIONALLY taking an opposing view on Lin. Most of the media is gushing over Jeremy and by being the opposite, it will generate more comments and readership (after all, they are in the publishing business).

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  11. Check out Kobe's reaction after the Laker's game.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85Bl3GRdULQ

    Hahaha.

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  12. stats breakdown on jlin from espn insider:

    What Lin has done is unprecedented. According to Elias, Lin's 89 points over his first three starts were the most by a player since the ABA-NBA merger in 1976, and the most period since Atlanta's John Drew scored 97 in his first three starts in 1974. You can just imagine Peter Vecsey muttering to himself courtside: "Free throws, layups, 3-pointers -- whatever he wants to do, he does. How can somebody be so good who came from nowhere?"

    Of course, we have to be careful not to get too carried away. After his big week, Lin sports a .625 True Shooting Percentage using over 30 percent of the Knicks' possessions while he's on the floor. That combination of efficiency and prolificacy is unheard of. If he were to post those numbers over a full season, it would be just the 11th time a player hit those benchmarks. The other 10 seasons include four by Michael Jordan, two by LeBron James and one each from Shaquille O'Neal, Karl Malone, Kevin Durant and Larry Bird. Are we really ready to put Lin in that class?

    We've seen players emerge from nowhere before, even if not to Lin's degree. Seattle's Flip Murray made waves by coming out of obscurity to average 23.9 points in the first 11 games of the 2003-04 season in place of injured Ray Allen. Ramon Sessions didn't make his NBA debut until March of his rookie season but finished the campaign by handing out 13.2 assists per night over Milwaukee's last seven games. Those players were destined for sustained usefulness in the NBA, but not stardom. As well as he's played, it's far more likely that Lin is going to turn into Murray than Bird.

    However, even if Lin's production does taper off some, his impact on the offense could be enough to keep the Knicks rolling. Our projections on Lin give us a glimpse into what that might look like.

    Before the season, our SCHOENE forecasting system (developed by colleague Kevin Pelton) pegged Lin to have a 15.9 percent usage rate and .464 True Shooting Percentage. Those projections were based on him playing for Houston this season, but it's not likely he'd have projected that much differently had he been with the Knicks all the while. The system recognized Lin's ability to get to the line and to the rim. In fact, Pelton wrote in Lin's player capsule in our annual that he's "an And 1 player in the body of an Ivy Leaguer." Still, the package didn't add up to what Lin has been doing over the past week.

    However, once you factor in his performance this season, the portrait of a top-flight point guard emerges. After Friday night, SCHOENE's revised projection has Lin with a 23.8 percentage usage rate, .594 True Shooting Percentage and an 8.7 percent assist rate. The only qualifying players from our database to hit those benchmarks over a full season have been Chauncey Billups,Penny Hardaway, LeBron James, Kevin Johnson, Magic Johnson, Steve Nash, Chris Paul, Mark Price and Deron Williams. That's an exclusive neighborhood Lin is bidding to move into.

    One other bit of interesting evidence in our preseason analysis of Lin can be found in the skill ratings from our annual, which measure a player's ability in various categories on a scale +5 (best) to -5 (worst), based on statistical criteria. Lin rated as a +5 athlete (based our ATH rating) because of his broad base of production. Not only has he posted an excellent foul-drawing rate, but he's been a solid rebounder and posted very high rates of steals and blocks for a player his size.

    ATH is a tool I use to determine how much of a player's non-NBA production is going to translate. (It's not currently part of the SCHOENE system.) In Lin's case, a +5 suggested his minor league performance would translate very well and he put up a.560 True Shooting Percentage with a 25.7 percent usage rate in 636 D-League minutes last season. That may have been more telling than we could have possibly realized.

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  13. Here are photos of Jeremy and Yao meeting for the first time ever at Yao's charity game in Taipei. Pretty cool that this meeting was the start of a friendship that Jeremy mentioned after Friday's game when he said he talks to Yao after every game.

    http://www.yaomingmania.com/blog/2012/02/12/jeremy-lin-talks-to-yao-after-every-game

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  14. http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/jason-whitlock-jeremy-lin-whitlock-sorry-for-lin-tweet-021112

    Add the racist Jason Whitlock apology here so it goes viral and his dumbass is fired. Every Jlin fan should go post at that link and demand he get fired.

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  15. I was watching yesterday's game and noticed how much Rubio was harassing from Jeremy from the behind. I thought many of his moves were outright hacks, but Rubio was rarely called. In general, I felt that the refs were home team friendly.

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    1. Oh the refs were certainly tilted, but maybe just bit more than every other home-court. I felt bad for Jeremy when he didn't get the call because he was almost risking his physical health in this deal. But oh well. That's what hard fought games are like.

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    2. Glad you noticed that, I also thought the refs were being biased. I hate the Timbetwolves with Kevin "Head-Stomper" Love and Ricky "Slant Eyes" Rubio.

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  16. My sour grapes isn't for Houston, New York, LA, Dallas, or even Golden State with Keith Smart.

    My sour grapes are for all the other NBA teams that missed out on Lin.

    For example, I live in Phx and we sure could use Lin in our starting lineup alongside Steve Nash.

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  17. Steimetz wrote an article in fall 2010 that Lin sholud not be on Warrior roster,his presence was marketing tool by owner, remember ?

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  18. Great article examining the rise of Jeremy Lin.

    http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/02/12/2637146_p2/rise-of-new-york-knicks-jeremy.html

    Think Differnt, Appke should sign Jeremy Lin up!

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  19. I'm going to say this for Jeremy Lin...in spite of the fact that his shot isn't text book beautiful (but it has improved quite a bit), he isn't all that big, and does not have a lightening first step, he's legitimate. He needs to work on his turnovers....but like everything else in Lin's game, that will improve. He is intelligent, very much so. He sees things on the court before other people do. He's quick enough, but his first step is his mind. Additionally, he adds something at the end of the play by having a soft touch and excellent body control which allows him to finish under the basket while still at full speed. He basically finds his place on any court and works like a dog to improve his game. He may have the best attitude of any player in the league. He inspires teammates. Lin may not be the most conventional potential star in the league, but just as he seemingly always has, he has the pedal to the floor constantly. He always has his head in the game...in life and on the court. This guy is like a storage facility for "intangibles". He gets better when the stage gets bigger. I saw his game against UConn. I saw him go head to head with Wall. Now this...yep...five fluke games that any second year player would choke his own mother to have. I live in Reno, and watched him shred the D League....he clearly did not belong there. Who knows if he'll stay with the Knicks, but he's no joke. Pundits gets paid to write columns that sell ad space...talking heads...... I'm a fan. Jeremy Lin.....hell, I like everything about him. I've followed this blog since its inception, and I'm very happy that you guys have something to write about now. I only wish Houston (my team) had not waived him. Glad he's out of GS...sad for his local fans, but do you really want him wasted on that organization? Anyhow...say what they will, pundits are just that and Jeremy Lin is the guy with the ball in his hands. I think he's going to be around for a while....and he'll get better every day.

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  20. Well said. Jeremy! ( Are you his another twin bro?) lol

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    1. Nah...haha. :-) I'm just some 6 foot white guy with an average jump shot. Not related to Lin at all, but proud to share the name. After his 30 point game at Utah...just watching the way he did it, I ended up the the "who is this kid" bug. When he came to play in Reno, I went to watch. I kept thinking that someone needed to give hm a shot....a real one, not 8 minutes off the bench. I thought he'd be an asset....he's gone ahead and blown me away. The kid goes deaf when the word "no" is spoken. Best thing about him now that I think of him? He's fearless. I'm a life long snowboard bum....so I like fearless.

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  21. i wouldn't take these guy seriously and give them more attention. these guys, being closet lin fans are instructed and are PAID to write these kind of trash. the tool steinmatz works for comcast which paid the warriors alot of money just broadcast their games. so of course comcast is going to suck up to the warriors. the poole guy has always been the devil's advocate and he's always rooted against the home teams. that's not surprising he would come out with this trash.

    if anything check out tim kawakami (who works with poole) ripping the warriors and he's a supporter of asian american athletes in general.

    http://blogs.mercurynews.com/kawakami/2012/02/11/jeremy-lin-in-context-and-the-decision-that-no-warriors-official-wants-to-admit-making/

    http://blogs.mercurynews.com/kawakami/2012/02/12/more-jeremy-lin-plus-the-two-trades-that-put-the-warriors-2012-no-1-pick-in-jeopardy/

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  22. lol I'm watching the Bulls / Celtics game right now and they were just talking about Jlin. Some dude in the stands had a sign that said "Lin who? How bout Rondo!!!" Lin is everywhere!

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  23. These guys who wrote these sour grapes articles are idiots. It's not Lin vs Kobe. It's the Knicks vs whoever. Lin is a team player. He looks to make his teammates better first. If you shut him down, he will find other way to win. He is an Asian version of Steve Nash who can jump higher but for now has a weaker long range shot. When Amare and Carmelo are back, I suspect his assists will go way up and his points will come down. He is a team player, only score out of necessity to keep the defense honest.

    Barring injury, he will continue to make the Knicks a winning team and will make it to the Hall of Fame one day.

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  24. Lol, the Jeremy Lin Effect, his influence on how Asians will be perceived on the play grounds.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiektV3HEB8&feature=youtube_gdata_player

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  25. "huge increase in hits, over 12X."

    Nice, congrats! I was guessing 10x increase in hits. Wow, you're doing all this with a family and kids? Impressive.

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  26. Speaking of sour grapes check this out: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/02/11/jeremy-lin-already-a-legend-reality-checking-the-hype.html

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  27. INTANGIBLES!!!!: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/jeremy-lin-true-hollywood-story-knick-sensation-york-a-week-article-1.1021119

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    1. Holden, dressed in Crimson gear, informed Peter Diepenbrock, Lin’s high school coach, that his reactions were twofold: yes, Holden had seen him play; no, Harvard would not continue to recruit him.

      “I think he’s a Division III player,” Holden said.

      Lin’s life path changed soon after. Holden happened to be watching a game on a court adjacent to the one where Lin’s team was playing later that week. Once the game got out of hand, he turned his attention toward Lin, who was playing a better opponent and exhibited a striking aggressiveness. Lin, Holden thought, showed the instincts of a killer.

      “I made him a top priority,” Holden says. “I would do anything to land him.”

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  29. Where these no name writers crawl out from? If Magic Johnson, Jerry West and Steve Nash endorse Lin as the real thing that's all I need to hear.

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  30. http://www.usatoday.com/sports/basketball/nba/knicks/story/2012-02-12/jeremy-lin-cover/53063880/1

    Very nice story by USA Today.

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  31. Jerry West is so FULL OF CRAP.

    He had Lin on his GS roster but couldn't recognize that Lin was the NBA statistical king of garbage time. That is a major league mistake by a supposedly major league basketball mind.

    I find it disingenous of West to marvel at Lin's game despite being essentially a basketball scout for Joe Lacob and the Warriors. If I were Joe Lacob, I'd immediately fire West for failing to recognize Lin's game especially since Lin was Lacob's handpicked guy.

    I don't care what Jerry West did in the past. He made his biggest basketball mistake ever by.cutting Lin.

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