Iman Shumpert looks great while the rest of the Knicks look horrible. He is the real deal but I see him as a two not a one. Like the last game, it will take a few injuries or a blow out to get JLin in.
Looks like no playing time for JLin tonight. When the coach would rather put in a washed up Mike Bibby or Reynaldo Balkman, it shows you how much confidence they have in Lin.
I wish they would just send him down to the D-League or waive him, so he can find another team to play on. I hate to see any athlete wasting his youthful years sitting on the bench :(
Unfortunately, my feeling is the Knicks have no plans for Lin. Too bad he wasn't able to stay on the Warriors. Jenkins and Smith are ineffective, Curry keeps getting hurt, signing Nate Robinson is a desperation move, but they would still need more help at pg if Curry is out for a while. Wonder how the Warriors fans would receive him if he came back. I say it's 50-50 right now the Knicks waive him. They still might keep him as insurance since it seemed like Shumpert hurt himself. Shumpert looks really good though.
I hate to be pessimistic, but Lin has no future with the Knicks. D'Antoni is basically running a 8 man rotation, and with Shumpert back, even Bibby got a DNP. That's why I felt that if Lin played conservatively during garbage time, it would not have helped him stick on the roster.
Wow, Curry sprained his other (left) ankle today? He probably should wear ankle braces the rest of his career. It may be uncomfortable, but Curry needs to just get used to them, like Rip Hamilton wears the face shield. Regardless, the Warriors have no roster spots, and they have 6 guards already.
Wow, it's not helping that the Knicks suck balls this season. I honestly thought they were going to be Championship contenders, but this is just pathetic. Carmelo's ego doesn't match his deteriorating skills, Amare looks like crap without Steve Nash doing all the hard work to give him open spots.
"That's why I felt that if Lin played conservatively during garbage time, it would not have helped him stick on the roster."
I agree but Jeremy has to pick his spots and be aggressive in the right way. Isaiah Thomas is a small quick guard that is impossible for JL take off the dribble, but he is easy to pass over and bully physically.
JL should have given up the ball early and then tried to post up Thomas if/when he got it back. Thomas wouldn't be able to do squat. On defense, he should have sagged back on Thomas instead of overplaying. That's how Thomas made him pay.
I think Jeremy's shooting is just fine judging from what I had seen in games he played in during the lockout. His form is much improved but just hasn't had any meaningful minutes to show it. Rubio is light years ahead of JLin in terms of experience. He's fun to watch.
Posting up Thomas is a good call but requires team work which is what the Knicks are lacking. Thomas has always been a good shooter so can't give him to much room either. The damage is done! Next Sac game is 2/15 if JLin sticks around that long.
Actually, it was the same right ankle that he had surgery on. I read an erroneous AP article that it was Curry's left ankle. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2012/01/04/sports/s193107S28.DTL
Idk why Jeremy Lin is always having to "compete" with Tony Douglas, Iman Shumpert, or Bibby for minutes. Those guys are shooting guards trying to play the point. Or they can play point, while Jeremy is the 2 guard. He's big enough to play the 2 position. Just like Raja Bell, Eric Gordon, Aaron Afflalo, who are about the same size, but have been shooting guards their entire career.
Shumpert and Douglas are better 2's than Lin. Douglas for whatever reason is being used to play the 1, which he sucks at. Meanwhile Lin was picked up to play the 1 and would have competed with Bibby and TD for PG had he proven himself.
Personally I think he would've been a better 1 than either of them had he shown off his ability to run the pick and roll, penetrate, and dish. Instead he showed he makes mistakes, can't finish in traffic, and in that Raptors game, couldn't do something as fundamental as bring the ball down without turning it over. And this is in garbage time against the worst players in the NBA. To most NBA fans, he's making the case that he's not NBA caliber.
I'm still hoping that one of these games, D'Antoni will show up half asleep and stick Lin in on accident, after which he'll have the breakout game we've all been wanting to see. But that window of opportunity has been closing.
@kenminjia, you mean against the Kings right?? He never played against Toronto, or unless I've been mistaken for another game?? Wasn't the last game he played was against Isiah Thomas from the Kings???
If the Knicks keep playing like this, Mike D'Antoni might lose his job before the season is over. He's in the same situation as Keith Smart last year with the Warriors. Struggling to squeeze out wins, not resting his starters, and not taking chances with Lin on the bench.
kenminja: "I think he would've been a better 1 than either of them had he shown off his ability to run the pick and roll, penetrate, and dish. Instead he showed he makes mistakes, can't finish in traffic, and in that Raptors game, couldn't do something as fundamental as bring the ball down without turning it over. And this is in garbage time against the worst players in the NBA. To most NBA fans, he's making the case that he's not NBA caliber."
Whoa there. Sure, Lin had an off game against the Kings (he somehow always does), unwisely trying to take a much smaller and quicker man off the dribble. But in the previous 2 outings for the Knicks, Lin had an amazing penetration and dish to Jerome Jordan that was Sportscenter worthy if the Warriors hadn't fouled Jordan to prevent the dunk. Against the Lakers, Lin drew a double team and passed to wide open 3 ptr (too bad it wasn't Novak who would have drained it for the assist). Also against the Lakers, Lin had a nice drive, drew the foul, and sank both FTs.
So in Lin's limited time, he's shown the ability to play PG better than Douglas and Bibby, and also worse. If he had the luxury of more PT, he can play smarter and let the game come to him. We saw that in D-League, he didn't make reckless plays. He had one bad game against the Kings, but he also showed that he can make great plays at PG too. All he needs is a coach that is willing to give him PT. Unfortunately, it doesn't look like D'Antoni will be the one since he's on the hot seat himself.
The Jordan dish was nice. But he also had that embarrassing airball. This is in garbage against the worst in the NBA. And there's no comparison between the NBA and D-League. If Lin really is NBA worthy, he should be able to dominate D League. Being good in D League is not something to brag about.
Expect more out of Lin. If he's as good as we all think he is, expect him to play with a chip on his shoulder and not make mistakes when playing with the worst of the worst. If he can't play smart during garbage time, I don't see how he's supposed to be able to play smarter when his defenders are better and the game is the on line. I also don't see how not hitting his shots and turning the ball over shows D'Antoni he's ready for more minutes.
Not making mistakes usually means not taking chances. You can expect a lot of mistakes or broken up plays during garbage time because it's basically jungle ball. Your only chance to show what you got is to take chances and play aggressively especially when coaches are no longer calling for strategies or plays.
Lin's mistake is trying too much to score. I rather see him put up 10 assists and maybe only put up only one or two baskets. He's a role player. His job is to get everyone involved and hopefully win a few games.
kenminjia said... "The Jordan dish was nice. But he also had that embarrassing airball. This is in garbage against the worst in the NBA."
He wasn't playing against the worst players in the NBA. If they were the worst, they wouldn't be playing, or be in the D-League. He was on the floor against: Isaiah Thomas, one of the fastest guards in the NBA, Jimmer Fredette, the leading scorer in the 2011 draft, J.J. Hickson the starting PF for the Cavs last season, Jason Thompson the starting Center for the Kings last season, and Tyler Honeycutt the best defender in the PAC-12 last year. The Sacramento Kings' bench is deep, and far superior to the Knicks bench.
"If they were the worst, they wouldn't be playing, or be in the D-League. "
By that logic, since Jeremy isn't playing, and has been down to D-League 3 times, he must be one of the worst.
Isaiah Thomas, Fredette, Honeycutt = rookies. Hickson, Thompson = mediocre players that started because their teams sucked, not because they're amazing. Though the way Thompson doesn't know how to close his mouth is pretty amazing. And every team in the NBA has a bench far superior to the Knicks bench. This means it should be easier for Lin to show off what he can do and distinguish himself from his bench full of scrubs. But that's not happening
Looks like no playing time for JLin tonight. When the coach would rather put in a washed up Mike Bibby or Reynaldo Balkman, it shows you how much confidence they have in Lin.
ReplyDeleteI wish they would just send him down to the D-League or waive him, so he can find another team to play on. I hate to see any athlete wasting his youthful years sitting on the bench :(
Tony Douglas looks like a pretty good player, but he puts up too many shots, especially when starters such as Melo are also on the floor.
ReplyDeleteWould like to see:
1) Lin with Iman as starting backcourt, or
2) Lin with either Douglas or Fields and second unit backcourt.
Unfortunately, my feeling is the Knicks have no plans for Lin. Too bad he wasn't able to stay on the Warriors. Jenkins and Smith are ineffective, Curry keeps getting hurt, signing Nate Robinson is a desperation move, but they would still need more help at pg if Curry is out for a while. Wonder how the Warriors fans would receive him if he came back. I say it's 50-50 right now the Knicks waive him. They still might keep him as insurance since it seemed like Shumpert hurt himself. Shumpert looks really good though.
ReplyDeleteIt's D'Antoni's call. That last 4 minutes Lin played must have given him a lasting impression! Forget about the Dubs, the last spot is filled.
ReplyDeleteOh yeah, forgot about the roster limit.
ReplyDeleteI hate to be pessimistic, but Lin has no future with the Knicks. D'Antoni is basically running a 8 man rotation, and with Shumpert back, even Bibby got a DNP. That's why I felt that if Lin played conservatively during garbage time, it would not have helped him stick on the roster.
ReplyDeleteWow, Curry sprained his other (left) ankle today? He probably should wear ankle braces the rest of his career. It may be uncomfortable, but Curry needs to just get used to them, like Rip Hamilton wears the face shield. Regardless, the Warriors have no roster spots, and they have 6 guards already.
Wow, it's not helping that the Knicks suck balls this season. I honestly thought they were going to be Championship contenders, but this is just pathetic. Carmelo's ego doesn't match his deteriorating skills, Amare looks like crap without Steve Nash doing all the hard work to give him open spots.
ReplyDeleteSometimes practice play and real game play are different. If Knicks want to see what JLin can do during game, they need to give him some real minutes.
ReplyDeleteI believe his intelligence will make up for his poor long range jumper. Look at Rubio in Minnesota.
"Everytime i try to get into Madison Square Garden, the security guards ask me if im a trainer LOL" posted by Jeremy Lin
ReplyDelete"That's why I felt that if Lin played conservatively during garbage time, it would not have helped him stick on the roster."
ReplyDeleteI agree but Jeremy has to pick his spots and be aggressive in the right way. Isaiah Thomas is a small quick guard that is impossible for JL take off the dribble, but he is easy to pass over and bully physically.
JL should have given up the ball early and then tried to post up Thomas if/when he got it back. Thomas wouldn't be able to do squat. On defense, he should have sagged back on Thomas instead of overplaying. That's how Thomas made him pay.
I think Jeremy's shooting is just fine judging from what I had seen in games he played in during the lockout. His form is much improved but just hasn't had any meaningful minutes to show it. Rubio is light years ahead of JLin in terms of experience. He's fun to watch.
ReplyDeletePosting up Thomas is a good call but requires team work which is what the Knicks are lacking. Thomas has always been a good shooter so can't give him to much room either. The damage is done! Next Sac game is 2/15 if JLin sticks around that long.
ReplyDeleteThe Knicks are horrible....
ReplyDeleteThe asian (Lin) fans need to take over MSG one night and chant "We want Lin" throughout the game get Lin in the game.
ReplyDeleteomg, Keith Smart is now the head coach of the Kings. I guess we know which team's going to sign Acie Law.
ReplyDelete"Curry sprained his other (left) ankle today?"
ReplyDeleteActually, it was the same right ankle that he had surgery on. I read an erroneous AP article that it was Curry's left ankle.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2012/01/04/sports/s193107S28.DTL
Idk why Jeremy Lin is always having to "compete" with Tony Douglas, Iman Shumpert, or Bibby for minutes.
ReplyDeleteThose guys are shooting guards trying to play the point. Or they can play point, while Jeremy is the 2 guard. He's big enough to play the 2 position. Just like Raja Bell, Eric Gordon, Aaron Afflalo, who are about the same size, but have been shooting guards their entire career.
Shumpert and Douglas are better 2's than Lin. Douglas for whatever reason is being used to play the 1, which he sucks at. Meanwhile Lin was picked up to play the 1 and would have competed with Bibby and TD for PG had he proven himself.
ReplyDeletePersonally I think he would've been a better 1 than either of them had he shown off his ability to run the pick and roll, penetrate, and dish. Instead he showed he makes mistakes, can't finish in traffic, and in that Raptors game, couldn't do something as fundamental as bring the ball down without turning it over. And this is in garbage time against the worst players in the NBA. To most NBA fans, he's making the case that he's not NBA caliber.
I'm still hoping that one of these games, D'Antoni will show up half asleep and stick Lin in on accident, after which he'll have the breakout game we've all been wanting to see. But that window of opportunity has been closing.
@kenminjia, you mean against the Kings right?? He never played against Toronto, or unless I've been mistaken for another game?? Wasn't the last game he played was against Isiah Thomas from the Kings???
ReplyDeleteYeah I meant the Kings
ReplyDeleteIf the Knicks keep playing like this, Mike D'Antoni might lose his job before the season is over. He's in the same situation as Keith Smart last year with the Warriors. Struggling to squeeze out wins, not resting his starters, and not taking chances with Lin on the bench.
ReplyDeletekenminja: "I think he would've been a better 1 than either of them had he shown off his ability to run the pick and roll, penetrate, and dish. Instead he showed he makes mistakes, can't finish in traffic, and in that Raptors game, couldn't do something as fundamental as bring the ball down without turning it over. And this is in garbage time against the worst players in the NBA. To most NBA fans, he's making the case that he's not NBA caliber."
ReplyDeleteWhoa there. Sure, Lin had an off game against the Kings (he somehow always does), unwisely trying to take a much smaller and quicker man off the dribble. But in the previous 2 outings for the Knicks, Lin had an amazing penetration and dish to Jerome Jordan that was Sportscenter worthy if the Warriors hadn't fouled Jordan to prevent the dunk. Against the Lakers, Lin drew a double team and passed to wide open 3 ptr (too bad it wasn't Novak who would have drained it for the assist). Also against the Lakers, Lin had a nice drive, drew the foul, and sank both FTs.
So in Lin's limited time, he's shown the ability to play PG better than Douglas and Bibby, and also worse. If he had the luxury of more PT, he can play smarter and let the game come to him. We saw that in D-League, he didn't make reckless plays. He had one bad game against the Kings, but he also showed that he can make great plays at PG too. All he needs is a coach that is willing to give him PT. Unfortunately, it doesn't look like D'Antoni will be the one since he's on the hot seat himself.
The Jordan dish was nice. But he also had that embarrassing airball. This is in garbage against the worst in the NBA. And there's no comparison between the NBA and D-League. If Lin really is NBA worthy, he should be able to dominate D League. Being good in D League is not something to brag about.
ReplyDeleteExpect more out of Lin. If he's as good as we all think he is, expect him to play with a chip on his shoulder and not make mistakes when playing with the worst of the worst. If he can't play smart during garbage time, I don't see how he's supposed to be able to play smarter when his defenders are better and the game is the on line. I also don't see how not hitting his shots and turning the ball over shows D'Antoni he's ready for more minutes.
Not making mistakes usually means not taking chances. You can expect a lot of mistakes or broken up plays during garbage time because it's basically jungle ball. Your only chance to show what you got is to take chances and play aggressively especially when coaches are no longer calling for strategies or plays.
ReplyDeleteLin's mistake is trying too much to score. I rather see him put up 10 assists and maybe only put up only one or two baskets. He's a role player. His job is to get everyone involved and hopefully win a few games.
kenminjia said...
ReplyDelete"The Jordan dish was nice. But he also had that embarrassing airball. This is in garbage against the worst in the NBA."
He wasn't playing against the worst players in the NBA. If they were the worst, they wouldn't be playing, or be in the D-League.
He was on the floor against:
Isaiah Thomas, one of the fastest guards in the NBA, Jimmer Fredette, the leading scorer in the 2011 draft, J.J. Hickson the starting PF for the Cavs last season, Jason Thompson the starting Center for the Kings last season, and Tyler Honeycutt the best defender in the PAC-12 last year.
The Sacramento Kings' bench is deep, and far superior to the Knicks bench.
"If they were the worst, they wouldn't be playing, or be in the D-League. "
ReplyDeleteBy that logic, since Jeremy isn't playing, and has been down to D-League 3 times, he must be one of the worst.
Isaiah Thomas, Fredette, Honeycutt = rookies. Hickson, Thompson = mediocre players that started because their teams sucked, not because they're amazing. Though the way Thompson doesn't know how to close his mouth is pretty amazing. And every team in the NBA has a bench far superior to the Knicks bench. This means it should be easier for Lin to show off what he can do and distinguish himself from his bench full of scrubs. But that's not happening