Thursday, December 29, 2011
Knicks vs Lakers (TNT)
Let's hope Jeremy gets some minutes tonight. The Lakers are a good match up for him with Fisher and Blake at PG. Although Jeremy only played just a minute against the W's, he did go to his left past Jenkins, through the help of KlayT, then into Udoh, JTyler (all of the W's draft picks), before making a sweet dish. If somehow he can get 15-20 minutes...
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Stayed up late on the east coast just to catch a glimpse of JLin but he has to come in at the last minute--shoulda expected it. Hope he plays earlier and more often today.
ReplyDeleteSorry, but it doesn't look like JLin is getting any minutes tonight. It will be another DNP-CD, because the game is too close, and the coach doesn't want to risk it.
ReplyDeleteJLin is just injury insurance, until Iman Shumpert comes back. And after that, he might be waived again.
The reason why the Knicks are down so much, is because they don't have a ball distributor running the pick n' roll.
Jeremy might get a couple of minutes in since the Lakers are pulling away. I don't blame the Knicks coach for not playing Jeremy though. He's unproven and hasn't practiced much. However, when the Lakers were making a run, it would have been good to give Jeremy some time to see what he could do.
ReplyDeleteIf there's a common theme between the warriors of '11 and knicks that Lin's been playing for, it's the lack of emphasis on D by both coaches. It's one of the strongest aspect of Jeremy's game yet it's not being recognized. What a pity.
ReplyDeleteGlad to see Lin being aggressive with the ball. Wish he would've made that layup. If Bibby continues to play poorly, Lin will get his chance soon.
ReplyDeletei see that jeremy got a pair of free throws and missed a jump shot.. i actually hope he could get his teammates involved more.. after all, they are not looking for another scorer.. they need some true point guard who can distribute the ball well.
ReplyDeleteWhat a crock.
ReplyDeletenicks PGs play like garbage all night in every possible way, but JL still only gets 1 minute of garbage time. Then he gets FTs, but misses a layup -- allowing Knicks fans and media to say that he "sucks" based on two possessions.
I'm not a total fanboy -- I don't know if he can be a starter in the NBA. But he'd sure as heck mop the floor with Old Man Bibby and Toney "Acie Law 2.0" Douglas.
Why did Mike D'Antoni wait so long to put in Lin? Knicks were down 20+ with 5 minutes left, they stopped trying AND it was the 2nd night of a back to back.
ReplyDeleteIt would've been the perfect time to evaluate Lin! Come on D'Antoni, you also were a defensive minded point guard many years ago too.
http://www.dopewar.com
Warriors and Knicks, are both up-tempo teams that don't emphasize defense.
ReplyDeleteConstant complaints about not having any depth at point guard, while Lin is sitting on the bench with nothing to do.
Now it looks like Coach Mike D'Antoni is on a losing streak and fighting for his job .... just like Keith Smart was doing.
He missed an easy layup. It was embarrassing.
ReplyDelete@JLinDynasty
The worst thing is that D'Antoni plays Lin 1 minute. Might as well not play him at all.
ReplyDeleteEven if Lin hit a 3, got an assist and a steal, it wouldn't impress anyone. "It's just garbage time against 3rd stringers!" Meanwhile, if he so much as misses a layup or turns it over, people say: "LOL. That's why you're not playing!"
Yeah, bummed the layup big time. Was a sweet cross to break himself free though! (trying to stay positive!)
ReplyDeleteI agree tigerfan. He still missed an easy layup. He "airballed" it, actually.
ReplyDeleteWho cares about the layup, though? He also drove into the lane and made 2 FTs. Douglas and Bibby didn't do that all night. It took Lin a few seconds.
ReplyDeleteBut garbage time is meaningless, good or bad. That's why they call it garbage time.
Had Lin made that layup, it would have been a good play. I watched the replay and he crossed Goudelock and went right, Goudelock was close but didn't contest. Lin drew a foul and made 2 free throws at least, and could have gotten an assist had the shot went down, to whom he passed it too.
ReplyDeleteKnicks forum on complete meltdown again.
There's a poll on who should start and Lin has more votes than Toney Douglas and Mike Bibby so far. Tim Tebow is also listed! :lol:
Btw, there's a poll going on at the Knicks forum on who should start. Lin and everyone else (that are not even basketball players) are beating Toney Douglas and Bibby right now! lol
http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=1148539&p=29693957#p29693957
I don't remember seeing TD and Bibby do much pick and rolls or even drive inside the paint at all... If you look, Lin has more FT attempt in his <2 min play time than TD and Bibby combined 50+ mins...
ReplyDeleteAman2k got the video up vs the Lakers:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFeDKT9Kyus
man that layup is a bit embarrassing..
ReplyDeletegreat crossover though
ReplyDeleteI thought the ball slipped out of his hand...
ReplyDeleteBibby plays like he was with the Heats - get the ball across mid court, pass to the stars and get out of the way or set a pick, hardly the Bibby of old.
Uh oh, I'm starting to see similarities between the Knicks and last year's Warriors. Carmelo = Monta, prolific scorer, but dominates the ball and runs iso plays rather than teamwork plays. A team with that kind of player just needs some 3-pt shooters to sit on the wings and knock down open 3's... ala Steve Novak, but that's not Lin's game.
ReplyDeleteHopefully Lin will mesh with Amare in practice and become a good pick and roll duo. Amare needs a PG to get him the ball, and neither Douglas or Bibby are getting the job done. I can see Lin penetrating, drawing extra defender, and dumping off to Amare for a dunk. This would be a good opportunity for Lin.
Melo has always been a high volume guy but he still need a guard to get him the ball. Lin can definitely drive and kick to Melo or drop it to Amare/Tyson.
ReplyDeleteOnce again, Lin was able to penetrate/draw contact on almost every possession regardless of garbage mins or not.. If you convert that to meaningful mins maybe about 10-15 mins per game, he could make something happen but from the looks of it, D'Antoni not gonna do it..
ReplyDeleteLin had a better shot in Houston to be honest and there was Training Camp which allow him to play very effectively hence the San Antonio game...
I think that missed lay-up was a resemblance the the high off the glass shot he did in San Antonio which actually went in the basket...
Knicks better do something quick and damn that really was a sweet cross-over even surprised Lin, lol...
A bit frustrating to see the Knicks lose by 20 without giving JLin more minutes. But it is understandable since he hasn't had much time to learn their offense or get to better know the players. That should improve for Monday's game (optimistic here) since I can't see any of the other guards do much all game last night. And boy, Bibby looks horrible these days.
ReplyDeleteLin fan here, but that layup was ugly. If he wants to play more he needs to stop doing embarrassing things like making the ball go DONK off the backboard without hitting rim. It just gives the naysayers more reason to insist he sucks.
ReplyDeleteTypical Knicks offense: TD or Bibby brings the ball down, stops outside the 3, ball gets passed around the perimeter until it gets to Carmelo or STAT, who then try a short jumper. Nobody penetrates. Nobody can make plays. I don't even think anyone knows how to run a pick and roll on that team.
I'd like to think since the Knicks are sucking, D'Antoni would want to try something new, maybe start running SSOL again. I doubt he will though. Sad, because Jeremy could totally be a facilitator on SSOL.
Also I hate it when they show Jeremy sitting on the bench. Half the time it looks like STAT is giving him a lapdance.
Also, a nice little thread from the RealGM boards: Is it Time to Give Lin Some PT?
ReplyDeletehttp://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=1148623&sid=c6b777ab630be62dfb5c0a4de612c4be
I looked at that "missed" layup on YouTube (paused at several points) and I think he was trying to pass the ball off backboard for other Knick to slam home.
ReplyDeleteOther knick was boxing out Laker, so Lin should have been able to go in for easy layup if he wanted.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1gmGIGNsVQ
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1gmGIGNsVQ
ReplyDeleteHe lofted the ball up underhanded, which seemed unnecessary if he was just going in for simple layup and the Laker was boxed in under basket by another Knick.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1gmGIGNsVQ
ReplyDeleteHe put the ball up underhanded, when he had clear lane to the hoop with another Knick blocking out nearest Laker underneath basket.
i think he just missed it.
ReplyDeleteD'Antoni hasn't got many options but to play Lin more once he's got a few more practices under his belt.
ReplyDelete15-seconds-or-less offense baby! Lin can run it. It was fun to watch the Suns.
Yes, it looks like he was trying to pass to Jerome Jordan who wasn't ready for it.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1gmGIGNsVQ
ReplyDeleteFreeze the video while he is actually putting the ball up:
- his palm is up as if he is lofting the ball up for someone else to get
- he has already beaten his man and nearest Laker had essentially boxed himself in underneath basket and would have to go through Jerome Jordan to contest Lin's layup.
To me, it looks like Lin was trying to set up Jordan for a highlight reel slam dunk, but he wasn't expecting it.
i still think he just actually missed lol which is no big deal..
ReplyDeleteThe ball just slipped out of his hand, that's all that is. You can see he wiped his right hand on his shorts after the miss.
ReplyDeleteOne positive thing is his free throw form and the results have been very good. It shows he's worked on his shooting.
ReplyDeleteAgree with Ika789. He did wipe his right hand on his shorts afterwards. Good eyes.
ReplyDeleteThe problem of being JLin fans: we over-analyze EVERYTHING because his time on the court is so limited. Looking back, the layup miss was no big deal. Lin will get his chance soon in New York.
ReplyDelete@JLinDynasty
Agreed, intentional or not, one missed layup is no big deal even though JLin is trying to make the team. I would think the coaches and the other players will get a good look at him in their upcoming practices. If he's good, which without a doubt I beleive he is, he'll be able to contribute.
ReplyDeleteDid anyone watch Lebron throw up an air ball at the free throw line? :) That was great!
Monday, go JLin!
Wish this D-League game was still available in the futurecast archive: http://www.nba.com/dleague/games/20110204/RNOIDA/gameinfo.html
ReplyDeleteI think Steve Novak had just signed with Bighorns a day before, and even with the unfamiliarity, look at stats Lin put up when he had a 3 point sharpshooter like Novak and someone who cuts without the ball well like Danny Greene to see what Lin can do.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjVHS505QDg&list=FLtMe_Vxt06qJqLptTcclHZQ&index=3&feature=plpp_video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjVHS505QDg&list=FLtMe_Vxt06qJqLptTcclHZQ&index=3&feature=plpp_video
ReplyDeletethis is what i think the knicks can benefit the most from... Lin penetration and kicking it out.
"Novak, a five-year NBA veteran who signed with Reno (19-12) earlier today via the available player pool, shot 8-10 from the field and 5-7 from beyond the arc. He led six Bighorns in double figures on the evening, extending Reno’s winning streak to four games."
ReplyDeleteDon't know if they even practiced together, but Lin was still able to consistently find Novak behind 3 point line on dribble penetration.
I think Novak got called up by Spurs right after that game, or one game later.
Lin is also able to make simple bounce pass in traffic if he has someone who cuts well without the ball like Danny Green (Spurs bench now).
Dude it does matter that he air balled. Lin is not the franchise superstar who can counter an air ball by sparking a run the next possession. He's only getting 1 minute of garbage time a game, during which he needs to show that he can do what the other 2 PGs can't. He basically needs to distinguish himself from TD and Bibby until that lightbulb clicks in D'Antoni's head that Lin is the only point guard on the team that can actually collapse the defense and make plays. And the only way he can do that is by penetrating and dishing. Not throwing up bricks or air balling layups.
ReplyDeleteTD and Bibby won't and can't penetrate like Lin can. Even in his limited minutes, the differences are obvious. I would think NBA coaches can spot that in no time. That's why they picked him up in the first place.
ReplyDeleteBibby plays the same way like he had been with the Heats, not adding much other than bringing the ball up court and dropping off to either James or Wade, that's why the Heats didn't resign him; TD isn't a PG and hasn't shown he can run the offense effectively. D'Antoni isn't gonna dismiss Lin just because of a couple bad misses. Who hadn't shot an airball and blown a lay up in the NBA? Had that been a deciding factor on who gets to play and who doesn't, every team will be short a few players in their rosters.
Lin will be evaluated when he's put in for more meaningful minutes, which he will get when he has a few practices under his belt.
Difference between Lin and whoever else is air balling layups is the other guy is getting 30 mins a game and can score 10-20 points to make up for it. Lin is not proven yet. He needs a breakout game. He needs to shine in limited minutes.
ReplyDeleteFar as D'Antoni understanding Lin's potential, I'll believe it when I see it and Lin gets to play more than 70 seconds. So far it looks like D'Antoni would rather have TD run up to the three and toss up bricks all the way to an 80 point game than put in a guard who can penetrate.
And yeah, mistakes are a deciding factor on who plays. For most unproven players, one mistake and they're back on the bench
You think they bring him in just to sit? Did you see he was scrambling quite a bit and not sure where he was supposed to be on defense? The coaches saw that too. Patience is virtue. He'll get his time on court after he's learned the system better and be more comfortable.
ReplyDeleteC'mon man. The Lakers brought in Adam Morrison just to sit. Scalabrine made a whole career out of sitting.
ReplyDeleteFar as a missed layup not mattering, go ask Gallinari how he blew it today
Lin needs to make no mistakes to prove himself. Today he looked like Sun Yue.