This may sound far fetched to some, but after discovering Ed Weiland of Hoops Analysts, my thoughts on JLin and Jimmer have been confirmed by a legit statistics guy. Weiland is pretty amazing. He liked Landry Fields in the 1st round and had Wesley Matthews on the radar screen as well. Of course, he is not perfect. He didn't have Eric Gordon ranked highly, and he liked Tyrus Thomas over Lamarcus. However, his hoops analysis is the best I've ever seen.
Is this Wesley Matthews a relative of Wes Matthews of Bridgeport, CT fame?
ReplyDeleteYeah, Jeremy is a better attacker than Jimmer of course but Jimmer has sick jumpers from anywhere.
ReplyDeleteJimmer is very lethal when it comes to shooting beyond the range. So it is hard to say.
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My 2 cents: Jeremy is better overall player as Jimmer has yet to prove he can play D. Once Jeremy locks down his jumpers with confidence as it seemed like he was doing towards the end of the season, he's going to be fine. Jimmer reminds me a lot of JJ Redick- we'll just have to see how his shooting fares against longer, more athletic NBA defenders. There are plenty of NBA players who can score so Jimmer will have to show some serious D to make a difference.
ReplyDeleteEd Weiland's analysis is spot on; he thinks Jimmer is similar to Shawn Respect. I agree and feel the worst case Jimmer will be is Respect or Tony Delk and the best case will be Mike Bibby. Too many people compare him to JJ Redick because they're both white, but Redick played at Duke and had tons more talent around him AND played against better competition.
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@redking: regarding the comparisons to Redick, there are similarities that go beyond the fact that they're both white. Both players were prolific shooters and both were scrutinized for their defense. I'm actually proud of the way Redick was able to shed his one-dimensional game and I see that Jimmer has the same hill to climb. I wouldn't say Redick played against better competition than Jimmer as you pointed out yourself, he had other players that could take the load off him. Jimmer on the other hand would be the sole focus of opposing teams as he was the key for his team so I would say that he actually was a better shooter in this respect than Redick.
ReplyDeleteTo be fair, Shawn Respert actually had stomach cancer that the general public did not know about. So nobody knows if he would have been a great NBA player or not.
ReplyDeleteI love Weiland's overall approach (esp. his use of the R+S+B stat), but I actually think Fredette will be a high quality NBA player. His unique situation at BYU inflated his scoring...but it also obscured his underrated passing abilities. And Jimmer didn't even try to play defense -- which isn't anything to be proud of -- but I don't think we can write him off as a terrible defender. Like Jeremy, he did surprisingly well in agility testing (Fredette at the Combine; JL at Portsmouth).
Jeremy Lin testimony at River of Life Christian Church.
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ReplyDeleteYou’re not making any sense. Redick played four years at Duke and you “wouldn’t say” he played against better competition? I think the ACC is better than Mountain West Conference. Think about how many McDonald’s All-Americans and future NBA players Redick played against in practice ALONE. I won’t even consider ACC league games.
Also, it’s possible to play against better competition with great teammates and still improve. Just because Jimmer was the sole focus for opposing teams doesn’t improve his skill. Redick had other great players to “take the load off him”, but he still actually has to shoot, dribble, etc...
Jimmer might have a great NBA career and he may be a better shooter but you’re not making a point. I don’t think they’re that similar and both players suffer from being compared to each other simply because of their skin color.
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It's really a shame there's no Summer League. JL probably would have been the Warriors' starting PG and a "main attraction" (along with Klay Thompson and Udoh). It would also have been a good time for other NBA teams to see how far Lin's come since last year.
ReplyDelete@redking: wow, I must have touched a nerve or woke up on the wrong side of bed,lol...I believe we can agree to disagree here...but you must have been a huge Redick fan or a Dukie...whatever the case may be, your logic is uneven...so you would not allow any comparisons between the 2 because their both white but you don't seem to have any problem comparing 2 players if both are black? I don't see the skin color...players are players but you seem to be sensitive about it...I just see 2 players who have comparable skills hailing from different conferences where both did well but Jimmer had a target on his back every time out while Redick had the luxury of having other NBA caliber players to take the load off.
ReplyDeletesori for the typos...rushing out as usual...
ReplyDelete@O. I’m not a Dukie, just a college basketball fan. And I’m not offended by your post, I just feel it is inaccurate as a summary and response to MY post. In other words, you’re responding to a view of mine, but distorting MY point to prove your point.
ReplyDeleteI agree skin color has nothing to do with it. Re-read my original post. OTHER people are comparing the two because of their color, not me. I DON’T think they’re similar. Other people think they’re alike because of their game and skin color – not me.
Don’t be in a rush, go back and reread what I wrote from the beginning.
Lastly, Redick had a target on his back too. He was the face of Duke basketball during his four years. Which is harder: future NBAers in the ACC gunning for you, or a bunch of nobodys in the Mountain West gunning for you?