I can't believe that Jeremy got to see first half action. Actually, I'm more shocked that Monta actually passed the ball to Jeremy. Good D by Jeremy but he's still reluctant to shoot...maybe he doesn't have the green light to shoot yet.
What it comes down to is that if Jeremy Lin can hold the fort down they have a better chance of winning while Monta/Steph can rest and have more energy later on. The odds of a victory here are slim if Steph,Monta collapse in the fourth. However, if JLin can prove that he can hold it down, then he will be a very valuble asset. I have 100% confidence he can, if he is allowed to play for more like a few minute stints. Keith doesn't though.
Game is on NBA TV, if your local tv lineup includes that channel.
Lin had a bounce pass for Rad which he caught out of bounds and threw away. However, I can't tell without replay whether Lin was expecting Rad to cut to the basket for easy layup or slam, or his pass was off (I think former).
He also contested drive to hoop and I think Denver player pushed off, creating offensive foul.
I think Lin looked a little cautious (scared to make a mistake), but I also suspect Smart just told him to try and not to do too much and just get some rest for Steph.
lol 4 minutes and 1 TO = back to the D-League. All the starters except Bied and Curry had 40+ minutes today against the worst team Nuggets. Tomorrow is going to be a massacre and Smart is never going to play JLin again because of that TO. I predict at least 10 point loss.
Anyway, lin is better off with team that can leverage his youth and potential to sell tickets to fill seats to massive Asian community. But someone need to see this opportunity and set it up for him
sooo today was my birthday and i got to see lin play!!! that part was very exciting :) but it was kinda depressing at the same time :/ i say this because while watching at oracle the fans were got pretty loud once they announced jlin was going in but his overall productivness wasnt too good :( coming from someone who follows the news revolving him and an avid fan of his i have to say it still didnt look like his teammates were comfortable with him back yet and that that pass to rad was just not very clean >_<... i hope it doesnt interfere with any possiblities of him being able to play against the suns
I say no way Lin plays the next few weeks :(. Just how his minutes goes, one simple mistake and they pull him no matter what. He has to literally play perfect and that is a lot of pressure.
Fitz said there's no backup option at point guard because Acie Law is hurt. My take would be it's time develop Lin into one. It might be overreacting but I sense Fitz doesn't believe Lin is NBA caliber. On the plus side, I think Smart is willing to give him a shot at some point. The 4 minutes was a test run. It was at a time when the game was still on the line. Too bad he made the bad pass but I rationalize by saying he was trying to make a play. He handled the ball well and didn't take it to trouble. Showing he can take care of the possession is the number one priority.
I did google search for Jeremy Lin Al Harrington offensive foul and ESPN play by play indicates Lin drew offensive foul on Harrington in second quarter. Harrington was driving to hoop for slam or layup and Lin challenged him. I think Harrington got annoyed small guard was challenging him and pushed off, getting called for offensive foul.
Doesn't show up on stat line, but Lin saved two points or at least took away one possession from the Nuggets.
I haven't seen a replay of that bounce pass out of bounds to Rad, but my impression is that he put the bounce pass exactly where he wanted to and Rad just didn't cut to basket like Lin expected (Danny Green would have seen what Lin saw and be actively cutting to basket to receive ball for slam or layup).
I do agree that Lin looked a little nervous, probably about any making any sort of mistake, but still think he was very solid in few minutes he got.
smart is a horrible coach for winning games AND for developing young prospects. he has failed miserably in both regards. in fact, smart cost the warriors a lot of games and a rookie.. or two. he's taken all the confidence out of lin. you are suppose reward a rookie for good defensive plays not for launching up jumpers. lin and udoh is doing just fine defensively and that's what you really want from rookies in the nba (especially on a team that lacks defense at all position). then you reward them by giving them some touches on the offensive end. any competent coach knows this. smart does the opposite. he publicly says "he has no options at backup point guard" just to make excuses for playing monta 40+ minutes and losing at it. he is killing lin's confidence. and by bringing in law and sending lin to the dleague in the first place, he is basically telling lin that he is worst than some scrub. then sending lin back and forth without giving him a real chance to prove himself is too much for a rookie (not to mention a rookie who has enough obstacles to overcome) to handle mentally on the nba level. smart has put lin a very difficult position from the very start of the season. now lin playing too stiff. is is too worried for things he shouldn't be and thus not playing with confidence. smart is not "spoon feeding" lin, he is killing him.
I agree Smart is not a very good coach, but I think the teams interested in signing Lin all viewed him as a project, not an NBA starter right now (which is different from Smart and Steinmetz, who think he doesn't have talent to be an NBA player, period).
D League time has been most positive thing for his development.
I think the problem with Smart's approach is that he would pull Lin after first mistake, rather than letting him play through that first mistake.
Developing Udoh right now makes sense because he was first round draft pick. Developing Lin right now (at least until they are mathematically eliminated from playoff hunt) I think is unrealistic expectation right now (it is nice if it happens, but should demand and expect it right now).
If Smart is going to put him in, he needs predicable, steady minutes and be allowed to fight through his own mistakes. Coming in when Steph goes to bench in first quarter is fine because Monta will hog ball, but Lin still needs other skilled scorers out there to pass on drive to (equivalent of Danny Green and Anthony Richardson when Lin is with Bighorns. They can both score, are looking to cut to basket when Lin drives to hoop, and Richardson can clean up Lin's misses near basket).
Coach Musselman knows how to utilize Lin's skill set; Smart just tries and pidgeon hole him into his vision of point guard and make him play like that.
OMG, Jerry Sloan just resigned (i.e. forced out) from the Utah Jazz! The word is that he had been clashing with Deron Williams all season. Geez, how do you just fire a HOF coach in the middle of a season?
Lacob, HIRE SLOAN NOW!!! This is an opportunity of a lifetime. Sloan knows basketball. He knows point guards, he coached one of the best PG of all time for most of Stockton's career. He knows how to execute the pick and roll.
Totally annoyed with those who blamed Lin's insignificance in NBA on coach Smart. Coach's job is to win as many as possible with talents in hand.If I were in that position,I'll do same. It's player's duty to make himself ready to play when times call. Lin is not a child anymore.Hi wake up! Behave like a grownup.Smart is essentially doing Lin a favor by limiting play_time. That turnover indicates he is NOT ready for NBA, as mirrowed during dleague days.He should continue in dleague to tuneout/clean years_habitual turnover.Be patient, there is no shortcut.
I thought Smart was told at beginning of year that this was year to develop young talent?
I haven't seen the replay, but that "turnover", I believe, was a bounce pass that Lin put exactly where he wanted it, but he was expecting Rad to cut to basket just like Danny Green always does when Lin was with Bighorns.
Acie Law hurts his team (can't play D and allows his man to penetrate into paint, breaking down Warriors D). Commentators never say anything about that, so he gets a pass despite consistently negative =/-.
Lin, even if it looks rather ugly right now, doesn't hurt his team and maybe even helps it slightly. What Lin can contribute at the NBA level is going to be the subtle things he always does, not scoring and driving at will through a porous defense such as Springfield Armor. What he did against Tulsa and Bakerfield more accurately represents his positive contributions at NBA level, at least until he has a couple years of NBA experience under his belt and is a wiley vet who knows all the tricks of the trade by then.
grow up "Reality Now". you post the stupidest comments. as always, EVERY sentences you write is aimed at belittling lin without any grounds. it's getting really old
Not blaming Lin's insignificance in NBA on coach Smart. I blame Smart for not giving Lin a fair chance. Seriously one mistake and you take him out? Rookies are going to make mistakes and that is how they learn, but not being able to make one just makes a player tight. And that blame falls all on Smart. Let him play through his mistake if he makes 2 more then I would yank him. But Lin still gave effort on the defensive side of the ball. Drawing the foul on Harrington is one such example.
The reason he probably had that bad pass is because he is still not use to playing with the team, and that is lack of playing time he gets with the team.
that "bad pass" should be blamed on vlade. smart is too stupid to realize that when you cut for a pass, you DO IT and not chicken out. there is no reason vlade should fake a cut like that. moron
JLin only got 4 minutes of playing time. It's not enough for any kind of evaluation. I don't have a problem with Smart taking Lin out at that point. But JLin should have gotten some time in the 3rd quarter when Curry had to sit with 4 fouls.
Again, it's very clear that JLin's job right now is exactly what the W's ask of Law - take up some minutes for Curry and don't give up any possessions. It's a pathetic way to play basketball, but that's what the coach wants. He should be more than capable of doing that. Just do it for the time being and continue to work on your game when you go back to Reno.
It would be totally awesome if the W's could get Sloan.... I have no idea if/how he would develop JLin, but it would be a huge upgrade for the organization.
"Jeremy Lin was absolutely unbelievable. Great practice habits. He fit in with his teammates impeccably. He didn’t care if he started or came off the bench. He played multiple positions for us. He played the 1 (point guard) and 2 (shooting guard). And he got out of it what he needed to get out of (his stay in Reno). He continued to work on his perimeter jump shot. He was a guy who came early to practice and stayed late after practice. The biggest thing was that he gained confidence through the minutes he was given."
I recorded the game, spent half an hour viewing Lin's 4 minutes. Fitz wants to say the subs weren't effective which was true, except for Lin. I honestly concluded he did all right. On the turnover, Radmanovic starts to cut to the basket, but drifts out towards the 3 point line midway. Lin throws it in the right spot if Radmanovic goes to the basket. Lin's man does not score. He saves a bucket after Ellis makes a turnover by taking a charge. Although Ellis did a lot of scoring, he also missed a free throw, had a shot blocked, and committed 2 turnovers in the same 4 minutes.
I think my point is everyone on this site knows you have to watch Lin over a period of time, and see the little things he does to help the team.
I hope lin going to get more minutes today Watch Warriors vs Suns here-> http://sporttychannel.blogspot.com/2011/02/golden-state-warriors-vs-phoenix-suns.html
Right now lakers VS celtics game is on if u on interested
I do not post anything anonymously so do not start blaming me for posts made by others. Although anyone could use my handle, my posts should be easily identifiable by: (1) they are well written, and (2) they never attack Lin or anybody else ad hominem.
It is just what it is: Reality Now. And for those whom I annoy: You know this forum would not be half as fun without someone to hate ;-). Have fun.
bahaha yea it's fun to smash your face onto the deck.
do you seriously think people here are gullible enough to believe you just because YOU said you don't post anonymously? and that YOU never attack Lin? lmfao! you are "Reality Now", "nt", "anonymous" and "ksmarts_homer". nice try. now go eat a plate of crows feet!
haven't seen those words in a while.
ReplyDeleteWhere can I stream the game? The link in the other thread doesn't work.
ReplyDeleteI just heard a radio ad starring Lin for Trans-Pacific National Bank. Ha ha. Too funny.
ReplyDeleteBtw, why is Lin in during such a close game? Injury?
Its about time Keith Dumb!
ReplyDeleteHe was in just long enough to commit a turnover. Dang!
ReplyDeleteim watching through this link... quality isnt great though.
ReplyDeletehttp://sjumbo-090211.blogspot.com/2009/11/channel-2.html
I can't believe that Jeremy got to see first half action. Actually, I'm more shocked that Monta actually passed the ball to Jeremy. Good D by Jeremy but he's still reluctant to shoot...maybe he doesn't have the green light to shoot yet.
ReplyDeletehoping he get's another chance 2nd half.
ReplyDeleteWhat it comes down to is that if Jeremy Lin can hold the fort down they have a better chance of winning while Monta/Steph can rest and have more energy later on. The odds of a victory here are slim if Steph,Monta collapse in the fourth. However, if JLin can prove that he can hold it down, then he will be a very valuble asset. I have 100% confidence he can, if he is allowed to play for more like a few minute stints. Keith doesn't though.
ReplyDeleteGame is on NBA TV, if your local tv lineup includes that channel.
ReplyDeleteLin had a bounce pass for Rad which he caught out of bounds and threw away. However, I can't tell without replay whether Lin was expecting Rad to cut to the basket for easy layup or slam, or his pass was off (I think former).
He also contested drive to hoop and I think Denver player pushed off, creating offensive foul.
I think Lin looked a little cautious (scared to make a mistake), but I also suspect Smart just told him to try and not to do too much and just get some rest for Steph.
He just has to do the same thing Acie Law does, no turnovers.
ReplyDeleteFor anyone who has game on DVR:
ReplyDeleteBad pass by Lin at 7:36 of second quarter: (I am wondering if Rad just did not cut to basket like Lin was expecting)
6:14 second quarter - foul on Harrington (I believe this was offensive foul Lin caused by contesting drive to hoop)
No love for Lin from Fitz. Monta is leg weary and can't finish. Can Smart come up with an idea?
ReplyDeleteSeriously 40+ minutes from most the starters on a back to back? The Warriors are just going to break down.
ReplyDeleteWhatever, if it is working to some extent then Keith will continue to keep his job. Hard to blame him.
ReplyDeletelol 4 minutes and 1 TO = back to the D-League. All the starters except Bied and Curry had 40+ minutes today against the worst team Nuggets. Tomorrow is going to be a massacre and Smart is never going to play JLin again because of that TO. I predict at least 10 point loss.
ReplyDeleteWhat did fitz say about Lin?
ReplyDeleteAnyway, lin is better off with team that can leverage his youth and potential to sell tickets to fill seats to massive Asian community. But someone need to see this opportunity and set it up for him
ReplyDeletevideo clips anyone?
ReplyDeleteI guess Lin's been reduced to doing as little as possible, either good or bad. I guess that's what Smart is looking for in a backup PG.
sooo today was my birthday and i got to see lin play!!! that part was very exciting :) but it was kinda depressing at the same time :/ i say this because while watching at oracle the fans were got pretty loud once they announced jlin was going in but his overall productivness wasnt too good :( coming from someone who follows the news revolving him and an avid fan of his i have to say it still didnt look like his teammates were comfortable with him back yet and that that pass to rad was just not very clean >_<... i hope it doesnt interfere with any possiblities of him being able to play against the suns
ReplyDeleteI say no way Lin plays the next few weeks :(. Just how his minutes goes, one simple mistake and they pull him no matter what. He has to literally play perfect and that is a lot of pressure.
ReplyDeleteFitz said there's no backup option at point guard because Acie Law is hurt.
ReplyDeleteMy take would be it's time develop Lin into one. It might be overreacting but I sense Fitz doesn't believe Lin is NBA caliber. On the plus side, I think Smart is willing to give him a shot at some point. The 4 minutes was a test run. It was at a time when the game was still on the line. Too bad he made the bad pass but I rationalize by saying he was trying to make a play. He handled the ball well and didn't take it to trouble. Showing he can take care of the possession is the number one priority.
I did google search for Jeremy Lin Al Harrington offensive foul and ESPN play by play indicates Lin drew offensive foul on Harrington in second quarter. Harrington was driving to hoop for slam or layup and Lin challenged him. I think Harrington got annoyed small guard was challenging him and pushed off, getting called for offensive foul.
ReplyDeleteDoesn't show up on stat line, but Lin saved two points or at least took away one possession from the Nuggets.
I haven't seen a replay of that bounce pass out of bounds to Rad, but my impression is that he put the bounce pass exactly where he wanted to and Rad just didn't cut to basket like Lin expected (Danny Green would have seen what Lin saw and be actively cutting to basket to receive ball for slam or layup).
I do agree that Lin looked a little nervous, probably about any making any sort of mistake, but still think he was very solid in few minutes he got.
Bring in Sloan to coach the warriors!!!! Maybe he will develop Lin better. And if he doesn't play at least I trust Sloan's judgment better.
ReplyDeletesmart is a horrible coach for winning games AND for developing young prospects. he has failed miserably in both regards. in fact, smart cost the warriors a lot of games and a rookie.. or two. he's taken all the confidence out of lin. you are suppose reward a rookie for good defensive plays not for launching up jumpers. lin and udoh is doing just fine defensively and that's what you really want from rookies in the nba (especially on a team that lacks defense at all position). then you reward them by giving them some touches on the offensive end. any competent coach knows this. smart does the opposite. he publicly says "he has no options at backup point guard" just to make excuses for playing monta 40+ minutes and losing at it. he is killing lin's confidence. and by bringing in law and sending lin to the dleague in the first place, he is basically telling lin that he is worst than some scrub. then sending lin back and forth without giving him a real chance to prove himself is too much for a rookie (not to mention a rookie who has enough obstacles to overcome) to handle mentally on the nba level. smart has put lin a very difficult position from the very start of the season. now lin playing too stiff. is is too worried for things he shouldn't be and thus not playing with confidence. smart is not "spoon feeding" lin, he is killing him.
ReplyDeleteI agree Smart is not a very good coach, but I think the teams interested in signing Lin all viewed him as a project, not an NBA starter right now (which is different from Smart and Steinmetz, who think he doesn't have talent to be an NBA player, period).
ReplyDeleteD League time has been most positive thing for his development.
I think the problem with Smart's approach is that he would pull Lin after first mistake, rather than letting him play through that first mistake.
Developing Udoh right now makes sense because he was first round draft pick. Developing Lin right now (at least until they are mathematically eliminated from playoff hunt) I think is unrealistic expectation right now (it is nice if it happens, but should demand and expect it right now).
If Smart is going to put him in, he needs predicable, steady minutes and be allowed to fight through his own mistakes. Coming in when Steph goes to bench in first quarter is fine because Monta will hog ball, but Lin still needs other skilled scorers out there to pass on drive to (equivalent of Danny Green and Anthony Richardson when Lin is with Bighorns. They can both score, are looking to cut to basket when Lin drives to hoop, and Richardson can clean up Lin's misses near basket).
Coach Musselman knows how to utilize Lin's skill set; Smart just tries and pidgeon hole him into his vision of point guard and make him play like that.
OMG, Jerry Sloan just resigned (i.e. forced out) from the Utah Jazz! The word is that he had been clashing with Deron Williams all season. Geez, how do you just fire a HOF coach in the middle of a season?
ReplyDeletehttp://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/jazz/51230275-87/sloan-jerry-coach-jazz.html.csp
Lacob, HIRE SLOAN NOW!!! This is an opportunity of a lifetime. Sloan knows basketball. He knows point guards, he coached one of the best PG of all time for most of Stockton's career. He knows how to execute the pick and roll.
Totally annoyed with those who blamed Lin's insignificance in NBA on coach Smart. Coach's job is to win as many as possible with talents in hand.If I were in that position,I'll do same.
ReplyDeleteIt's player's duty to make himself ready to play when times call. Lin is not a child anymore.Hi wake up! Behave like a grownup.Smart is essentially doing Lin a favor by limiting play_time. That turnover indicates he is NOT ready for NBA, as mirrowed during dleague days.He should continue in dleague to tuneout/clean years_habitual turnover.Be patient, there is no shortcut.
I thought Smart was told at beginning of year that this was year to develop young talent?
ReplyDeleteI haven't seen the replay, but that "turnover", I believe, was a bounce pass that Lin put exactly where he wanted it, but he was expecting Rad to cut to basket just like Danny Green always does when Lin was with Bighorns.
"That turnover indicates he is NOT ready for NBA, as mirrowed during dleague days."
ReplyDeleteuh... jeremy had a 1.7 assist:turnover in dleague, which is better than ac's 1.6.
Acie Law hurts his team (can't play D and allows his man to penetrate into paint, breaking down Warriors D). Commentators never say anything about that, so he gets a pass despite consistently negative =/-.
ReplyDeleteLin, even if it looks rather ugly right now, doesn't hurt his team and maybe even helps it slightly. What Lin can contribute at the NBA level is going to be the subtle things he always does, not scoring and driving at will through a porous defense such as Springfield Armor. What he did against Tulsa and Bakerfield more accurately represents his positive contributions at NBA level, at least until he has a couple years of NBA experience under his belt and is a wiley vet who knows all the tricks of the trade by then.
February 10, 2011 1:32 PM
ReplyDeletegrow up "Reality Now". you post the stupidest comments. as always, EVERY sentences you write is aimed at belittling lin without any grounds. it's getting really old
Not blaming Lin's insignificance in NBA on coach Smart. I blame Smart for not giving Lin a fair chance. Seriously one mistake and you take him out? Rookies are going to make mistakes and that is how they learn, but not being able to make one just makes a player tight. And that blame falls all on Smart. Let him play through his mistake if he makes 2 more then I would yank him. But Lin still gave effort on the defensive side of the ball. Drawing the foul on Harrington is one such example.
ReplyDeleteThe reason he probably had that bad pass is because he is still not use to playing with the team, and that is lack of playing time he gets with the team.
that "bad pass" should be blamed on vlade. smart is too stupid to realize that when you cut for a pass, you DO IT and not chicken out. there is no reason vlade should fake a cut like that. moron
ReplyDeleteJLin only got 4 minutes of playing time. It's not enough for any kind of evaluation. I don't have a problem with Smart taking Lin out at that point. But JLin should have gotten some time in the 3rd quarter when Curry had to sit with 4 fouls.
ReplyDeleteAgain, it's very clear that JLin's job right now is exactly what the W's ask of Law - take up some minutes for Curry and don't give up any possessions. It's a pathetic way to play basketball, but that's what the coach wants. He should be more than capable of doing that. Just do it for the time being and continue to work on your game when you go back to Reno.
It would be totally awesome if the W's could get Sloan.... I have no idea if/how he would develop JLin, but it would be a huge upgrade for the organization.
Coach Musselman apparently had some high praise for Lin's development on KNBR this afternoon.
ReplyDeleteCan't find any written comments via Google yet.
at least if the Warriors had a proven coach like Sloan then all of us JL fans would stop blaming the coach =)
ReplyDeleteI think Coach Musselman's praise of Lin's development in D League may be archived here tomorrow:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.knbr.com/HOSTS/DamonBruce/tabid/597/Default.aspx
Most coaches would be pretty happy with this line for their backup PG*:
ReplyDelete12 min, 3 pts, 1 reb, 1 ast, 1 stl, 1 blk, 1 to.
Not Smart. His ideal line is:
12 min, 0 pts, 0 reb, 0 ast, 0 stl, 0 blk, 0 to.
* by the way, the first line is Lin's actual extrapolated per-minute NBA stats.
http://www.27x7.com/2011/02/09/27x7s-10-questions-with-former-kings-warriors-coach-musselman/
ReplyDelete"Jeremy Lin was absolutely unbelievable. Great practice habits. He fit in with his teammates impeccably. He didn’t care if he started or came off the bench. He played multiple positions for us. He played the 1 (point guard) and 2 (shooting guard). And he got out of it what he needed to get out of (his stay in Reno). He continued to work on his perimeter jump shot. He was a guy who came early to practice and stayed late after practice. The biggest thing was that he gained confidence through the minutes he was given."
"Reality Now" suck it now!!!
I recorded the game, spent half an hour viewing Lin's 4 minutes. Fitz wants to say the subs weren't effective which was true, except for Lin. I honestly concluded he did all right. On the turnover, Radmanovic starts to cut to the basket, but drifts out towards the 3 point line midway. Lin throws it in the right spot if Radmanovic goes to the basket. Lin's man does not score. He saves a bucket after Ellis makes a turnover by taking a charge. Although Ellis did a lot of scoring, he also missed a free throw, had a shot blocked, and committed 2 turnovers in the same 4 minutes.
ReplyDeleteI think my point is everyone on this site knows you have to watch Lin over a period of time, and see the little things he does to help the team.
I hope lin going to get more minutes today
ReplyDeleteWatch Warriors vs Suns here-> http://sporttychannel.blogspot.com/2011/02/golden-state-warriors-vs-phoenix-suns.html
Right now lakers VS celtics game is on if u on interested
@Anonymous 3:06 and others
ReplyDeleteI do not post anything anonymously so do not start blaming me for posts made by others. Although anyone could use my handle, my posts should be easily identifiable by: (1) they are well written, and (2) they never attack Lin or anybody else ad hominem.
It is just what it is: Reality Now. And for those whom I annoy: You know this forum would not be half as fun without someone to hate ;-). Have fun.
bahaha yea it's fun to smash your face onto the deck.
ReplyDeletedo you seriously think people here are gullible enough to believe you just because YOU said you don't post anonymously? and that YOU never attack Lin? lmfao! you are "Reality Now", "nt", "anonymous" and "ksmarts_homer". nice try. now go eat a plate of crows feet!