Just got around to watching the game from Sunday. Futurecast is really nice. I'm impressed with Jeremy's ability to guard the much larger Alexander, holding him to 2 points in the last about 5 minutes. I like the way Musselman puts him in different situations to develop his game. Don't put the sound on when I watch. Suffice it to say from reading other's comments that this is the way to go.
Interesting that Lin said that the team's goal for his DL assignment is to go back to purely being a point guard. If that's his goal, I'm not seeing any indication of that.
In his 8 games in D-League, Lin is averaging 19.1 pts, 3.9 ast, 1.3 A/TO. Those aren't PG type numbers. Compare that to Miles, who was averaging 15.1 pts, 8.8 ast, 3.4 A/TO. Also compare to Lin's senior year at Harvard when he was a SG: 16.4 pts, 4.4 ast, 1.4 A/TO. Lin's playing well in DL, but I'm not seeing where he's playing pure PG.
Lin said in the interview that in summer league he played combo guard, where he really shined. I know the Warriors don't have a need at SG/CG, but I think they're pounding a square peg into a round hole.
It just depends on the team and how he fits in the system. The Lakers and Dallas are teams where the SG facilitates most of the offense (Kobe, Jason Kidd). Other teams like Miami have Lebron James, a forward leading the offense.
So the point guard is not always the one who distributes the ball. Derrick Fisher almost never gets into double digits in assists.
FYI if u actually watch him play, u will see that he pass the ball a lot and if his teammates actually makes those shots, he will have a lot of assist.
The Lakers and Dallas are teams where the SG facilitates most of the offense (Kobe, Jason Kidd).
Huh? Jason Kidd has never been a SG, he is as pure of a PG as it gets.
The point guard is not always the one who distributes the ball
Sure, I understand that some teams that have an all-star player like Kobe or LeBron that will do most of the scoring as well as ball-handling. I consider the Warriors in that category too, since Monta scores, passes, and dominates the ball. So if that's the case, then why would the Warriors ask Lin to work on his "point guard skills" if he doesn't need to be a main distributor?
if u actually watch him play, u will see that he pass the ball a lot and if his teammates actually makes those shots, he will have a lot of assist.
well, Lin is playing with the exact same teammates as Miles. So maybe Miles would have had 15 APG if those teammates made their shots.
1)JLin's PG skill evaluation by "real-dsb" is accurate as of today. 2)Callup now is ONLY staifying his ego, but will not help his NBA career. 3)It's better to stay in dleague to sharpen PG skill;if he is honestly and seriously interested in the position.
Miles seems more like of a pure point guard and scorer than Lin.
Lin is a great facilator that does stuff that doesn't show up on box score (e. g. taking charges, knocking ball away while someone else gets credit for steal) and, I think, makes Reno a better team than when run by Miles.
In NBA, I think he needs a team with athletic bigs that play good D and clean up his misses around rim (like Anthony Richardson does now), a pure shooter like Steph for him to kick out to, and a coach with real offensive and defensive schemes.
Lin, while maybe not a star himself, can take a team that already has good components, and make them great. I don't think Aaron Miles can do that.
wow talk about over analyzing with stats. can't say much when his assists in his dleague games are just .5 apg less than his harvard years. also the point guard role isn't his only goal. first thing's first when he came into the dleague.. gain confidence and getting minutes. and did you not forget? he needed to show everybody that he can make his jumpers. one step at a time. lin won't be putting up pure guard stats when he is asked to do everything else too. defense, blocks, steals, make jumpers, drive, pass, and running the point. most players excel in just one thing. asking lin to do everything and everything better than everybody else is just too much.
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Please confirm or dispute my observation that JLin played better overal and with less TO when his parents did not show up at the games; e.g. these @showcase.Therefore I am expecting that he will have fun times on the upcoimng away games.
@real-dsb good point about his assists. i guess the take away message is that the GSW prob want to see them go up. they have been rising slightly. prior to this 1/16 game of 3 assists, he had 5/6/5/6 assists in his last 4 games. but being a passing PG prob isn't one of those things that can happen in a week or two so hopefully we'll see his assists rise steadily over time.
I think stats and box scores understate Lin's value to a team.
Reno is 6 - 2 with Lin on team, and in losses to Bakersfield and Idaho, score was tied or Reno was leading when Coach Musselman pulled Lin so regular starters could finish the game.
Strawberry may have done scoring in 4th quarter of second game with Texas, but Lin did subtle things like taking charges in fourth quarter that helped put Reno in position to win game. Also forgot if this was fourth quarter where Lin came out of nowhere to block shot when a Texas player was driving to hoop in transition for easy layup, but was denied.
I remember reading an article somewhere about Lin's days at Harvard which said he basically gave his team whatever was needed to win the game late in the game.
He may not be able to shoot or drive to hoop like Monta for game winner, but I think he can contribute in subtle, but meaningful, ways to help his team win a close game late in fourth quarter.
He isn't going to take a so so team and elevate them to greatness, but if components of a very good team are already there, I think he has potential to help make them great.
above re: assists, I think miles did a good job of finding teammates who could actually finish. lin is really unselfish and has been finding the open man a lot but it's often charlo or someone who can't finish.
because miles played with those guys longer he knew which open guys to pass to and which to pass up.
point guard is a really difficult position to learn. first he has to gain confidence in other areas of the game like scoring, defense, free throws, rebounding and so on. then he gets more feel of the game and begin to work on quarterbacking the offense. i expect him to work on his point guard play because the warriors need a point guard of the future.
I think W is Monte's team and every others are support cast. Monte is SG/PG that curry is SG even though curry is PG. So whoever bring the ball up and he has to give the ball to Monte that Monte will start the offense that he can score by himself or pass the ball to open guy. In Monte's mind, every other just catch and shoot or watch Monte's offense.
For JLin to fit the system he has to make his jump shoot better and there is NO WAY for JLin to set up offense, pick and roll etc. For JLin's goal is to improve his jump shoot, cut his turn over if he drive to basket and pass to open man if he encounter multiple defense to block his way. I have seen he did that in the D League game and did improve a lot.
As to AMiles's stat, I think AMile was bighorn's main PG and that is why he has more asists. JLin was not play as PG only for his minutes and he also play as SG. I believe if JLin is full time PG for bighorn, he will have more assist.
For W's game, It is hard to change the system since Monte perform really well. But the basketball game is for 5 players and W will win more if everyone perform good. I was not sure curry is happy to be part time PG since Monte take away that and I do not see that will change for quiet some time.
Any way JLin can keep work on his game, jump shoot, cut his turn over, also keep work on his PG knowledge etc It will be good for him in the long run.
if you call 2/4 shooting and nothing else in 15 min against the pacers playing well, then you along with many other warriors fans are being fooled. points means less than defensive stops on good teams
here is my take on the whole warriors thing with lin. i know lacob is smart and he probably knows a lot about basketball and done lots of research on his own team. if it is true then he is "saving" lin and possibly udoh for when the real rebuilding process begins.. next year. he probably figures he needs to ease into taking control of things and playing it politically safe by making smart and riley feel like they are running things. he will let monta pad his stats and hope that monta makes the allstars to boost his popularity and value more so that he can have a nice trading piece. lacob is going to use the celtics as a model to rebuild this team. that is, the correct way.. with defense and running the offense through a point guard. hopefully lacob somehow lands a good center next year and resolve the small sg dilemma with curry and monta. it will get real interesting next year.
I keep wondering about Acie Law too. Not that I wish him ill so that Lin can advance, but rather what he does to earn minutes. He doesn't defend, shoot well, or pass... a triple threat. The only thing I can discern is he takes care of the ball, meaning he doesn't make careless turnovers. This is not a winning formula. My prediction is the Warriors will lose 10 of the next 15 games. What does this mean for #17? I guess just keep playing well in the d-league and something good will eventually happen.
i'm confused. so does that mean jeremy was officially recalled but inactive? or was he not recalled and just a spectator?
ReplyDeleteno hes just visiting before he head out to tulsa on thursday.
ReplyDeleteReno's Landry And Lin Named NBA D-League Co-Performers of the Week
ReplyDeletehttp://www.nba.com/dleague/news/performers_110118.html
Marcus Landry looks really good too. I think he's a free agent after getting waived by the Kings, wonder if he'll get signed by an NBA team this year.
ReplyDeletenice post game interview from lin.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDh2nVnsUVE
Just got around to watching the game from Sunday. Futurecast is really nice. I'm impressed with Jeremy's ability to guard the much larger Alexander, holding him to 2 points in the last about 5 minutes. I like the way Musselman puts him in different situations to develop his game. Don't put the sound on when I watch. Suffice it to say from reading other's comments that this is the way to go.
ReplyDeleteThat was a pretty good interviewer. I learned a few new things about JLin. Much better than the Fanhouse interviewer.
ReplyDeleteInteresting that Lin said that the team's goal for his DL assignment is to go back to purely being a point guard. If that's his goal, I'm not seeing any indication of that.
ReplyDeleteIn his 8 games in D-League, Lin is averaging 19.1 pts, 3.9 ast, 1.3 A/TO. Those aren't PG type numbers. Compare that to Miles, who was averaging 15.1 pts, 8.8 ast, 3.4 A/TO. Also compare to Lin's senior year at Harvard when he was a SG: 16.4 pts, 4.4 ast, 1.4 A/TO. Lin's playing well in DL, but I'm not seeing where he's playing pure PG.
Lin said in the interview that in summer league he played combo guard, where he really shined. I know the Warriors don't have a need at SG/CG, but I think they're pounding a square peg into a round hole.
@real-dsb
ReplyDeleteYour point suggests Lin will be a better fit on another team. I believe it will be a team where the 2 guard dominates the ball.
It just depends on the team and how he fits in the system. The Lakers and Dallas are teams where the SG facilitates most of the offense (Kobe, Jason Kidd).
ReplyDeleteOther teams like Miami have Lebron James, a forward leading the offense.
So the point guard is not always the one who distributes the ball. Derrick Fisher almost never gets into double digits in assists.
FYI if u actually watch him play, u will see that he pass the ball a lot and if his teammates actually makes those shots, he will have a lot of assist.
ReplyDeleteThe Lakers and Dallas are teams where the SG facilitates most of the offense (Kobe, Jason Kidd).
ReplyDeleteHuh? Jason Kidd has never been a SG, he is as pure of a PG as it gets.
The point guard is not always the one who distributes the ball
Sure, I understand that some teams that have an all-star player like Kobe or LeBron that will do most of the scoring as well as ball-handling. I consider the Warriors in that category too, since Monta scores, passes, and dominates the ball. So if that's the case, then why would the Warriors ask Lin to work on his "point guard skills" if he doesn't need to be a main distributor?
if u actually watch him play, u will see that he pass the ball a lot and if his teammates actually makes those shots, he will have a lot of assist.
well, Lin is playing with the exact same teammates as Miles. So maybe Miles would have had 15 APG if those teammates made their shots.
1)JLin's PG skill evaluation by "real-dsb"
ReplyDeleteis accurate as of today.
2)Callup now is ONLY staifying his ego, but
will not help his NBA career.
3)It's better to stay in dleague to
sharpen PG skill;if he is honestly and
seriously interested in the position.
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Miles seems more like of a pure point guard and scorer than Lin.
ReplyDeleteLin is a great facilator that does stuff that doesn't show up on box score (e. g. taking charges, knocking ball away while someone else gets credit for steal) and, I think, makes Reno a better team than when run by Miles.
In NBA, I think he needs a team with athletic bigs that play good D and clean up his misses around rim (like Anthony Richardson does now), a pure shooter like Steph for him to kick out to, and a coach with real offensive and defensive schemes.
Lin, while maybe not a star himself, can take a team that already has good components, and make them great. I don't think Aaron Miles can do that.
wow talk about over analyzing with stats. can't say much when his assists in his dleague games are just .5 apg less than his harvard years. also the point guard role isn't his only goal. first thing's first when he came into the dleague.. gain confidence and getting minutes. and did you not forget? he needed to show everybody that he can make his jumpers. one step at a time. lin won't be putting up pure guard stats when he is asked to do everything else too. defense, blocks, steals, make jumpers, drive, pass, and running the point. most players excel in just one thing. asking lin to do everything and everything better than everybody else is just too much.
ReplyDeleteHE NEEDS TO IMPROVE HIS FREETHROW!!
ReplyDeleteHE NEEDS TO IMPROVE HIS FREETHROW!!
HE NEEDS TO IMPROVE HIS FREETHROW!!
HE NEEDS TO IMPROVE HIS FREETHROW!!
HE NEEDS TO IMPROVE HIS FREETHROW!!
HE NEEDS TO IMPROVE HIS FREETHROW!!
HE NEEDS TO IMPROVE HIS FREETHROW!!
HE NEEDS TO IMPROVE HIS FREETHROW!!
HE NEEDS TO IMPROVE HIS FREETHROW!!
HE NEEDS TO IMPROVE HIS FREETHROW!!
HE NEEDS TO IMPROVE HIS FREETHROW!!
HE NEEDS TO IMPROVE HIS FREETHROW!!
HE NEEDS TO IMPROVE HIS FREETHROW!!
HE NEEDS TO IMPROVE HIS FREETHROW!!
HE NEEDS TO IMPROVE HIS FREETHROW!!
HE NEEDS TO IMPROVE HIS FREETHROW!!
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ReplyDeleteJLin played better overal and with less TO when his parents did not show up at the games; e.g. these @showcase.Therefore I am expecting that he will have fun times on the upcoimng away games.
@real-dsb
ReplyDeletegood point about his assists. i guess the take away message is that the GSW prob want to see them go up. they have been rising slightly. prior to this 1/16 game of 3 assists, he had 5/6/5/6 assists in his last 4 games. but being a passing PG prob isn't one of those things that can happen in a week or two so hopefully we'll see his assists rise steadily over time.
I think stats and box scores understate Lin's value to a team.
ReplyDeleteReno is 6 - 2 with Lin on team, and in losses to Bakersfield and Idaho, score was tied or Reno was leading when Coach Musselman pulled Lin so regular starters could finish the game.
Strawberry may have done scoring in 4th quarter of second game with Texas, but Lin did subtle things like taking charges in fourth quarter that helped put Reno in position to win game. Also forgot if this was fourth quarter where Lin came out of nowhere to block shot when a Texas player was driving to hoop in transition for easy layup, but was denied.
I remember reading an article somewhere about Lin's days at Harvard which said he basically gave his team whatever was needed to win the game late in the game.
He may not be able to shoot or drive to hoop like Monta for game winner, but I think he can contribute in subtle, but meaningful, ways to help his team win a close game late in fourth quarter.
He isn't going to take a so so team and elevate them to greatness, but if components of a very good team are already there, I think he has potential to help make them great.
as a coach i'd take the whole package that lin gives you on both ends of the floor over monta's selfish offense and dismal defense anyday.
ReplyDeletestrawberry going overseas -- should give more time for lin at the point instead of 2 guard.
ReplyDeletehttp://nba.fanhouse.com/2011/01/19/first-wave-of-players-head-overseas-following-d-league-showcase/
above re: assists, I think miles did a good job of finding teammates who could actually finish. lin is really unselfish and has been finding the open man a lot but it's often charlo or someone who can't finish.
because miles played with those guys longer he knew which open guys to pass to and which to pass up.
point guard is a really difficult position to learn. first he has to gain confidence in other areas of the game like scoring, defense, free throws, rebounding and so on. then he gets more feel of the game and begin to work on quarterbacking the offense. i expect him to work on his point guard play because the warriors need a point guard of the future.
ReplyDeleteI think W is Monte's team and every others are support cast. Monte is SG/PG that curry is SG even though curry is PG. So whoever bring the ball up and he has to give the ball to Monte that Monte will start the offense that he can score by himself or pass the ball to open guy. In Monte's mind, every other just catch and shoot or watch Monte's offense.
ReplyDeleteFor JLin to fit the system he has to make his jump shoot better and there is NO WAY for JLin to set up offense, pick and roll etc. For JLin's goal is to improve his jump shoot, cut his turn over if he drive to basket and pass to open man if he encounter multiple defense to block his way. I have seen he did that in the D League game and did improve a lot.
As to AMiles's stat, I think AMile was bighorn's main PG and that is why he has more asists. JLin was not play as PG only for his minutes and he also play as SG. I believe if JLin is full time PG for bighorn, he will have more assist.
For W's game, It is hard to change the system since Monte perform really well. But the basketball game is for 5 players and W will win more if everyone perform good. I was not sure curry is happy to be part time PG since Monte take away that and I do not see that will change for quiet some time.
Any way JLin can keep work on his game, jump shoot, cut his turn over, also keep work on his PG knowledge etc It will be good for him in the long run.
see jlin can be a valuable part of the warriors, but he would have to lead up the second unit as pg (with monte and curry sitting).
ReplyDeleteim getting worried, acie's starting to play well for the warriors =/
ReplyDeleteif you call 2/4 shooting and nothing else in 15 min against the pacers playing well, then you along with many other warriors fans are being fooled. points means less than defensive stops on good teams
ReplyDeletehere is my take on the whole warriors thing with lin. i know lacob is smart and he probably knows a lot about basketball and done lots of research on his own team. if it is true then he is "saving" lin and possibly udoh for when the real rebuilding process begins.. next year. he probably figures he needs to ease into taking control of things and playing it politically safe by making smart and riley feel like they are running things. he will let monta pad his stats and hope that monta makes the allstars to boost his popularity and value more so that he can have a nice trading piece. lacob is going to use the celtics as a model to rebuild this team. that is, the correct way.. with defense and running the offense through a point guard. hopefully lacob somehow lands a good center next year and resolve the small sg dilemma with curry and monta. it will get real interesting next year.
I keep wondering about Acie Law too. Not that I wish him ill so that Lin can advance, but rather what he does to earn minutes. He doesn't defend, shoot well, or pass... a triple threat. The only thing I can discern is he takes care of the ball, meaning he doesn't make careless turnovers. This is not a winning formula. My prediction is the Warriors will lose 10 of the next 15 games. What does this mean for #17? I guess just keep playing well in the d-league and something good will eventually happen.
ReplyDelete4:36 speaks the truth. everyone should read that post again.
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