Thursday, November 11, 2010

Lin Coming In

58 comments:

  1. Perfect situation. Warriors getting killed on the road after two wins. Even if struggles, it won't receive too much scrutiny. And if he helps lead a mini comeback, then it'll raise his confidence.

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  2. Damn. Lin ran a nice play...and missed the layup. Gotta finish strong, JL.

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  3. C'mon Jeremy, make something happen

    Or else you'll be DNP again

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  4. Damn it. GREAT drive...missed the open layup. This is kinda concerning. Not he sits -- probably cause he can't drop the layups.

    To be fair, everyone on the Warriors is missing right now.

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  5. how can we watch? the website provided doesnt seem to have viable links

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  6. http://www.freedocast.com/pana3

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  7. tried it. it's blocked by the admin. :*( Video not found.

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  8. Warriors look tired.

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  9. lin has to finish those drives. he was yanked early.

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  10. Try

    http://www.atdhe.net/28064/watch-golden-state-warriors-vs-chicago-bulls

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  11. I hope the W's can break 70 points 2-night.

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  12. Needs to learn how to shoot better... no jumper, & close-ups aren't going in. probably whats holding him back.

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  13. The jumper will come. But the layups should already be there. He's lacking confidence offensively because he's been focusing on running the point and not turning it over (which he's done well). He needs to walk and chew gum at the same time.

    He's missing fairly open layups. He should just dunk it or something -- which he can do.

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  14. Hopefully Smart plays him some more in the 2nd half. The whole Warriors team is garbage tonight, so might as well let JL get some time. Lin needs to see the ball go through the hoop on a drive. Sounds stupid, but it'll help big time.

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  15. The game is streaming on ATDHE.net again. Lin is/was? in. Ugly game for everyone including him. Still hustling though. And he swatted Noah...but it was called a goaltend (no way).

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  16. that was a block. refs probably think no way an asian american can do that so they just call it goal tending.

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  17. Won't go down that way, though. Lin has looked great on D -- even against D-Rose he wasn't any worse than Ellis and was better than Curry.

    But offensively, he is a mess. He can/will get better, but right now, he has no confidence. Unless he can finish those drives, defenders will be up in his grill all night. And that means TOs and sloppy offensive sets.

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  18. For once, if JL doesn't make it back into the game, it's his own fault. Sometimes you just need to put the ball in the hoop. Nice energy as always, but you need to execute or you can't play serious minutes.

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  19. Got in for the last two minutes of garbage time -- nice gesture by Smart. Didn't take a shot, but got a nice steal (the guy is a steal machine, seriously) and got his +/- up a little.

    Lin needs to finish -- simple as that. So many parts of his game will improve if he can finish on a drive -- Monta needs to teach him in practice.

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  20. lol another steal

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  21. Keith Smart definitely doesn't know how to develop young players. GSW was losing by almost 40, Lin made some mistakes but jesus christ, everyone makes mistakes, plus he's a rookie. You can't develop him by letting him play 2-3minute slices 2-3 times a night.

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  22. Thanks for the link...finally caught some JLin action tonight. Agree with the most of the comments above. JLin had a nice steal at the end, and really shows is ability to play defense. I think he just needs more play time to get settled in...he still looks a bit timid on offense and passing the ball a bit too often and not looking for his own shots. But given the few minutes he's played that is expected. Let's hope he gets another 10-15 minutes of PT next game. It sure is fun watching him play.

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  23. You guys need to chill on the Smart hate. Lin's lucky to get playing time at all. Most undrafted players are sent to D-League or are inactive for every game. He's a good player and I'm a fan, but some guys on here are acting like he's a 1st round lottery pick.

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  24. Jeremy Lin does have a knack for getting steals.

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  25. Smart's priority is to win. He may only be around for one year. JLin will replay those layups in practice. He'll eventually hit them.

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  26. brah brah from the 5th flowNovember 11, 2010 at 9:38 PM

    warriors got blown out and smart really thought that we still had a chance to win, but smart is still a rookie head coach. all the jlin fans i feel u guys but we need to chill b/c he God will make a way for him, slowly but surely. u already see the injuries to curry and ellis, its just a matter of God timing!

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  27. Cut it out with the God stuff. Besides, God only opens the door -- JL has to walk through it.

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  28. Lol at Jeremy Lin for saying he doesn't have freak athletic abilities. He lied to us all. Those blocks are unreal for any point guard. He gets so damn high and fast. The steals are also unreal. Those are the kind of steals you only see in nba2k11 played by a total beginner like myself. And then there are those jump ball wins vs. much taller guys.

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  29. jlin will do better without monta and possibly also without curry on the floor, but particularly without monta. You saw it tonight when monta and jlin almost grabbed the same rebound but monta got it and jlin jumped ahead of him on the wing. monta should have kicked it ahead to jlin instead no kick up and no fastbreak. monta doesn't trust jlin and probably won't because he really wont understand jlins game. monta understands and appreciates one thing. scoring. but he doesn't truly understand team play or the nuance and timing of it. jlin's ideal line up is biedrins lee wright and either reggie, carney, or radmonovich. he needs to be part of a defensive minded package that can get steals and boards and run and where jlin can be the one controlling the ball in the open court. ideally he would get a chance with this type of line-up for a few minutes a quarter or half and if they do well leave them in a little longer. if they don't, then bring back the monta and curry. jlin WILL NOT be able to score anywhere near the level of curry or monta so why even think about it. BUT, he will be able to run a defensive minded squad for a few minutes a game with some overlap with the regulars if his squad were to start flowing -- on a squad like this he will apt to be more offensive minded too becuase he won't have to defer to monta or curry. hopefully, keith is smart enough to realize this. When he jlin did such a nice job in the Laker game, monta and curry were not factors in the come back -- in fact when jlin went out and monta came back the warriors immediately went into the tank. monta is not a good 10pts+ down player.

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  30. I think monta ellis and curry are playing streetballish kinda...

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  31. yeah i noticed that play when monta and lin went for the rebound and lin ran ahead.. he was wide open and monta could and should have made the easy pass for possibly a dunk.

    i replayed the steal he got in the NY game where he stripped the ball from Amare and then Anthony. he has to have some serious strength to do that. both of guys are BIG players who had TWO hands on the ball when Lin stripped it away from them with just his right hand. i think Lin have REALLY been under-rated in the strength, speed and athleticism categories.

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  32. would love to see lin play with the likes of kobe, rose, paul, and lebron. but not wade who a master at 1 on 1 basketball.

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  33. jesus christ can he be more aggresive offensively and make a damn bucket. i'm rooting for him and all...but he just cant make these simple layups. shouldnt playing basketball your whole life make you better than .143 field goal percentage? this...is...frustrating.

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  34. Wade went 2-12 in 40 minutes and he's been playing in the NBA for years now. besides were you watching? those aren't easy lay-ups. they were acrobatic, hand in the face type attempts.

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  35. It's a tiny sample size -- basically one starter's game worth. But yes, he needs to start hitting them before it becomes mental.

    The funny thing is that his efficiency is supposed to be his saving grace. He may never have Monta's moves or Steph's shooting stroke, but he'll never take a bad shot and make the ones he takes. To be fair, his job right now is to run the offense -- not BE the offense.

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  36. he is shooting guard being asked to play the point guard position as a rookie from day 1. so far i think he has been doing quite well. not a lot of shooting guards in the nba can make this conversion no matter how long they play.

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  37. Totally agree with Anonymous 1:43

    That was one of his scouting reports weaknesses: No true position.
    He's a shooting guard with playmaker abilities. He scores best off the ball, but he's able to make plays with the ball.
    Heck, but if Warriors were able to make the conversion with Stephen Curry, Jeremy Lin should be just fine.

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  38. I know this is asking a lot, but since this is "the" JLin fan site, can the webmaster/owner work with some people to try to get highlights of him for the games? Looking for highlights is what keeps me coming back here.

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  39. Jlin is a natural point guard. That was his position in high school. if you saw him play, you know this is his position. he is NOT a shooting guard nor really a point scorer ala curry or monta. he is best when getting an outlet pass and managing an open floor. only curry can manage the open floor like he does (see the trail pass to wright for a three a couple games back.) you are not going to see monta throw trail passes for threes. a guy who averages 13pts a game in the IVY league is not going to step in and start pouring in points in the pros. Bill Bradley averaged 30 points in college and 13 in the pros. Jlin needs to lead a second team of defenders and role players not play with curry and monta who want to pound the ball and put it on the deck where Jlin has to float around on the perimeter watching the show.

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  40. "asiancaucasian" has excellent points. Lin does play and flow better with the second team. Lin also does a good job setting-up easy shots for D. Wright, B. Wright, A.B, & D. Lee. It is a "mind" game for Lin now.

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  41. I agree with getting highlights www.youtube.com/mmzzyeahh

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  42. great comments here love it, i have his first game on my site

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  43. addendum: actually jlin may be even better when getting his own board and pushing.

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  44. hm..i actually think that positions don't really matter too much. they're basketball players first and foremost. i dont think playing a position dictates how much you can score. So there isnt really an excuse for his low shooting percentage (.111) other than the fact that he doesnt have enough playing time and he's too unselfish (1.8 assists per 9 minutes isn't bad). hopefully he can get comfortable knocking down outside shots soon. it's sad to say but scoring does help you stay in the nba longer since that's the number that most people pay attention too. If not scoring..great efficiency sure does help.

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  45. The problem with him playing his best only when certain other teammates are on the floor with him is that it is too limiting for the coach. Smart isn't going to change the players on the court to suit Lin. Lin needs to make those layups and develop a more consistent mid-range shot if he wants any sort of minutes other than garbage time.

    The blocks, steals, and assists have been a lot of fun to watch and do show that he has some nice skills.

    Also, I'm not sure if I am imagining this or not but it seems like Monte doesn't like Lin much. Even in the Raptors game where he split the defenders and drove in for an easy assist, just before the play Monte was in the corner gesticulating angrily at Lin. Perhaps it is just like what someone commented earlier that Monte just doesn't trust Lin yet.

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  46. jlin needs to score and be efficient when he is presented with the opportunity I agree, but jlin doesn't not NEED to score to help this team. They don't need him to come of the bench and be a primary producer. If you saw him in the Laker game or Raptor Game you saw what I like to call the "Jlin Effect." Steals, Boards, Some Points, Tempo Control, and Will to Win. It's the cumulative effect he will have on the game over time. Basketball is a game of chemistry, and good point guards create chemistry. Monta is a hard guy to create chemistry with. In fact, i think he even hinders good chemistry. But he is a necessary evil -- an amazing scorer and finisher -- with this team because they don't have great scorers at other positions. The point-scorer has changed the game of basketball for the worse I believe. Everything is either pick and roll and spacing or post up and spacing. There is no offense, no real flow or chemsitry with several people touching the ball per posession. Jlin would do better in Jazz type of setting AND when hes allowed to control the break. (A High Level Euro Squad might truly suit Jlin better to be honest.) You will often see Monta or Curry get the outlet and dribble it up with Jlin off the ball and this just limits the "Jlin Effect". Again, I don't think he should be a starter -- monta and curry are better at what they do -- but he should be allowed to LEAD at second team who's primary role is to defend and create scores with their defense and rebounding. And, his minutes should be limited... unless we are seeing the Jlin Effect ... which we will see! You saw it in the Laker game and you saw it in the Raptor game.

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  47. monta doesn't trust jlin because lin isn't scoring. if monta were more of a catch and shoot kind of guy he would love jlin... but monta needs to pound it to score. he should have kicked it up on the break to lin the other night... if you've done any coaching or know the game you know that was a clear sign of no trust -- kick it ahead should be automatic -- unless there is an absence of trust. monta and jlin are oil and water. there may even be jealousy on monta's part because jlin is earning applause without doing much. monta is carrying the heavy load and but does he really feel the same amount of love from the warrior crowd??? i bet not... which has to promote some jealousy without a doubt.

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  48. I completely agree that Lin doesn't need to be a "scorer" and simply needs to take advantage of the opportunities given. That being said, not having an outside shot will limit his effectiveness at the point if defenders know he can't shoot.

    I also agree with the over-enthusiasm of the Lin supporters creating a slight air of jealousy from the true stars of the team. Monte in particular is a spectacular player but always seems to not get as much glory for it (no All-Star teams, Baron and Stack-Jack hogging the spotlight).

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  49. i'm fully with you mr. chuckles... and yep got to knock down the outside j. doesn't have to take a lot but keep them honest for sure.

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  50. brian, and your website is ....

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  51. click on brian!

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  52. I'm a HUGEE Monta fan, I'm one of the few/only fans who actually felt that GSW should REALLY keep him instead of trading him last year. He's definitely one of my favorite players to watch since he has such a creative ability to score.

    However, I agree, Monta sometimes does "hinder" offensive flow, but it's all a matter of gaining his trust.

    Last year, he didn't trust Stephen Curry at the beginning of the season. But this season, you actually see him throw trail passes to Stephen Curry for 3 pointers all the time. When teammates gain Monta's trust, he's actually really amazing with the offensive flow; he's actually the one running the tempo. I mean, come on, he IS the team leader. However, if he doesn't trust certain teammates, offensive efficiency sometimes isn't optimized to its full potential.

    Nonetheless, you can't really blame him with the trust issues based on how he was treated last year with Don Nelson n' franchise, practically a lame duck or scapegoat. Plus with his dynamic ability to score, kinda made sense.

    However, he's changed in many areas already entering the season, so hopefully we'll see more even more changes as the season goes on.

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  53. alright rchao i'm gonna keep an open mind!

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  54. alright i see some names around here and that's good. for the rest of you anonymous poster, please use a name we can identify you with. i feel there is a community here now.

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  55. brian, i don't see what vid you're talking about. i just see about 100 vlogs that you made about random things.

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  56. Here's a highlight reel of the raptor game. Jeremy comes in at 1:01-2:41.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOhbOHOIh4I and unlike that brian guy, this one's REAL.

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