Lin earning trust within the front office and sports media: http://www.mercurynews.com/warriors/ci_16713535
"It's tough to go on two, three or four games," general manager Larry Riley said, "but we've had a couple of guys come off the bench and show that they're getting better. Jeremy, of course, is one of them."
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Lin, who has become steady enough to serve as a tempo changer, uses defensive pressure and his ability to penetrate. He has even made a few outside shots, which was his obvious weakness."
let's hope ellis is a better teammate. chances are he and lin are going to be playing at the same time. ellis needs to pass the ball to lin when he's double teamed and get active and open when lin has the ball.
Ellis wants to be a leader, but he also knows that Lin's success would mean he becomes tradeable. Curry's 3-pt shooting and lower cost makes Ellis the odd-man-out if the Ws want to go after a big man.
Lin's success is nowhere close to meaning that Ellis becomes tradeable. It just means that both Ellis and Stephen Curry will have more time to rest instead of playing 40+ minute games. Ellis is a leader, he just doesn't trust many people due to the bad experiences last season. He never trusted Stephen Curry until this year. It's been getting better this season though, look at how well he plays with Curry right now. He already has 4 assists at halftime in this game against Memphis. Lin's success will actually mean Ellis will trust him more and play better with him. Not just that, but it'll get Lin more minutes. But Ellis is the team leader, they're not going to trade him.
really sloppy play by the warriors. Lin should've made that layup. Just an unfortunate bounce. Good job attacking the basket. He needs to stop playing ISO and use screens instead
"Warriors need a star C or SF. Ellis or Curry has to be traded to get it. Simple as that."
Obviously, it's not very simple. Considering the league has no true Center besides Dwight Howard, Chris Kaman, Gasol's, and a handful of people who get injured, it'll be hard to find one. All these panzy centers who shoot three-pointers aren't Centers. All the true centers are never going to be traded by their franchise: Marc Gasol, Chris Kaman, etc. etc. More than half the playoff teams don't have a star Center or SF, and considering that the Warriors have Biedrins and David Lee, trading Ellis or Curry would just be retarded, not simple. The bigs have been getting into the offensive rotation lately, and should do more so as the season progresses. Biedrins already has 24 points, 15 rebounds in the 3rd with 86% shooting. Unless you could blackmail another franchise to make some retarded trade, it's not happening. And considering Warriors already have a solid chance for playoffs, any trade would only make the team worse.
First "missed shot" = obvious foul by Gasol which resulted in TWO makeup calls.
Second "missed shot" = probably going in, but Vlad tipped it just in case
Also, JL could have had two baskets, but Monta refused to passed to him on a fast break and then D-Wright (?) had Lin streaking ahead but threw it away behind him.
Ouch. Lin got blocked (for real) twice this game. But he did get two steals and a block himself. Needs to diversify his finishes...refs refuse to call contact at the rim this game.
uh no. lin provided excellent defense and held it at a 6 point deficit for a while. can't do anything if your teammates are turning the ball over and missing wide open shots. lin needs to tear drop higher on the glass to avoid getting blocked.
Lin was fine running the point and okay (not great as usual) on defense. And you gotta tip your cap on the blocks (just like Harrington being swatted by Lin).
I'm not sure Lin should even have gone "fancy" on his finishes at this stage of his career. Usually you're gonna draw fouls if you go up strong and solid.
The entire Warriors bench along with Dorell Wright are just playing real sloppy today. Completely losing any momentum that the starters were building. Jeremy wasn't any exception, today just wasn't his day. Kind of unfortunate since he had a lot of opportunities. Great that he got minutes, bad that he wasn't playing well.
Lin was fouled several times on his drives, yet they were not called. His teammates were not helping him out there too. They just stand around and watch. At least Lin will always provide solid D.
mikey tell me about! what the hell dick bavetta? this guy was probably refing when wat misaka played so don't tell me you've never seen one to miss a call that badly! not one but both announcers couldn't believe that no call.
Being objective, today was an off night for Lin. He had many chances and he was outplayed, especially when he was on offense. I made a few observations:
1. He seemed actually a step slow today. Even in defense, there were points where the ball was bouncing around and he could have controlled it, but just let it go by.
2. I think he is a little too methodical setting up the play. I am not seeking a playground fast offense, but whenever is is PG, the game slows way down.
3. He needs to drive from the left side of the basket. I have almost never seen him drive from the left. Even if he starts from the left, he winds up on the right side.
4. His defense is still good. His 5 sec. sub at the end of the game was a GREAT endorsement by Smart that he trusts Lin's defense.
5. Lin getting better does not equal Ellis getting traded. Let's be objective even as fans. Ellis is an enormous talent.
6. Hubie is right - this team will get a lot better once they get their size back. Today was a good day for W, a real confidence booster.
I got the same questions also....he always sit next to the coaches, I don't know if the coaches loves him and wanted to teach him or its b/c of problems with teamate~@"@
It was a good learning experience for JL. First of all, let's not forget he also had 2 steals and another block himself. And Gasol clearly fouled him for what should have been FTs.
But JL learned that sometimes, when you're not getting calls or the other team is playing great D, you gotta be more creative on your finishes (that's one thing he should learn from Ellis). Reverse, floater, and yes, the dunk. Lin can't explode to the hoop like Ellis (few can), but he can dunk with a running start.
The coaches are obviously teaching Jeremy and want him to be caught up to the NBA game. His progress is beginning to show. Sun Yue also sat next to the coaches when he was with the Lakers.
LOL. Please don't compare JL to Sun Yue just because they're both Asian. he's more athletic, smaller, and far more skilled (esp. on defense). He's also been proving himself against elite American competition for years (last two years at Harvard, Summer League, and now in brief moments at the NBA level).
The reason why the offense slows down so much is because on every possession, he's stopping to get instructions from coach Smart. He's not allowed to run plays by himself.
If Monta is on the floor, his instructions are to defer to Monta and let him go one on one with the defense.
He has much more game than this, but right now is not allowed to use it.
Sun Yue wasn't able to adapt to the NBA. Not many 6'9 PGs in the NBA for that matter.
The comparison between Jeremy Lin and Sun Yue wasn't made because they were Asian. They just were both two players I've seen sat next to coaches during the rookie season. Did I ever say that Jeremy Lin was going to be the next Sun Yue? LMAO Nope!
LOL @ 12:20 getting all butt hurt. I'm not the one trying to compare Jeremy Lin and Sun Yue's game..YOU ARE!
Fact: Both Sun Yue and Jeremy Lin sat next to the coaches when they were in the NBA. Deal with it.
I think Monta doesn't like Lin because before the NBA draft, Lin was interviewed and asked who his favorite Warrior was, and Lin said it was Steph. LOL!
So this is how you come up with theories of why Coach Smart is a bad coach and provoke ideas that he hates Lin?... . I do like the effort of how you come up with these far fetched theories. But the reality is, EVERY point guard gets instructions from their coach on possessions: Deron Williams from Jerry Sloan, Russell Westbrook from Scottie Brooks, Derrick Rose from Thibodeau, list goes on. Since Jeremy is still a rookie, he should definitely listen to his coach. I have NO idea how you came up with this theory that, "his instructions are to defer to Monta and let him go one on one with the defense." So now you even put instructions/words in Coach Smart's mouth, and then call him a bad coach? .. .. . . o... . .k??
"I think Monta doesn't like Lin because before the NBA draft, Lin was interviewed and asked who his favorite Warrior was, and Lin said it was Steph. LOL!"
I don't think BlackieChan was saying Smart dislikes Lin or that he is a bad coach. He was just observing that Lin seems to have to get instructions everytime down the floor and that when Lin and Monta are on the floor, Lin usually gives it up to Monta and plays man-to-man defense. I wouldn't disagree with the observation. It kinda seems like that is the case without casting dispersions on the coach.
RealGM likes to talk about Jeremy Lin too! but apparently Asians who root for Jeremy Lin at Oracle Arena think he's God...is that true? =)
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Lin earning trust within the front office and sports media:
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"It's tough to go on two, three or four games," general manager Larry Riley said, "but we've had a couple of guys come off the bench and show that they're getting better. Jeremy, of course, is one of them."
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Lin, who has become steady enough to serve as a tempo changer, uses defensive pressure and his ability to penetrate. He has even made a few outside shots, which was his obvious weakness."
let's hope ellis is a better teammate. chances are he and lin are going to be playing at the same time. ellis needs to pass the ball to lin when he's double teamed and get active and open when lin has the ball.
ReplyDeleteEllis wants to be a leader, but he also knows that Lin's success would mean he becomes tradeable. Curry's 3-pt shooting and lower cost makes Ellis the odd-man-out if the Ws want to go after a big man.
ReplyDeleteFinally...a clip of the Harrington swat.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ghv46oE34uo
Go to 1:47. Other JL highlights in there, too.
Lin's success is nowhere close to meaning that Ellis becomes tradeable.
ReplyDeleteIt just means that both Ellis and Stephen Curry will have more time to rest instead of playing 40+ minute games.
Ellis is a leader, he just doesn't trust many people due to the bad experiences last season. He never trusted Stephen Curry until this year. It's been getting better this season though, look at how well he plays with Curry right now. He already has 4 assists at halftime in this game against Memphis. Lin's success will actually mean Ellis will trust him more and play better with him. Not just that, but it'll get Lin more minutes. But Ellis is the team leader, they're not going to trade him.
Warriors need a star C or SF. Ellis or Curry has to be traded to get it. Simple as that.
ReplyDeleteLIN IS IN. He gets hacked hard and clearly by Gasol's entire arm...no foul.
really sloppy play by the warriors.
ReplyDeleteLin should've made that layup. Just an unfortunate bounce. Good job attacking the basket. He needs to stop playing ISO and use screens instead
good drive jeremy..but c'mon take control and bring the ball up the court!
ReplyDelete"Warriors need a star C or SF. Ellis or Curry has to be traded to get it. Simple as that."
ReplyDeleteObviously, it's not very simple. Considering the league has no true Center besides Dwight Howard, Chris Kaman, Gasol's, and a handful of people who get injured, it'll be hard to find one. All these panzy centers who shoot three-pointers aren't Centers.
All the true centers are never going to be traded by their franchise: Marc Gasol, Chris Kaman, etc. etc.
More than half the playoff teams don't have a star Center or SF, and considering that the Warriors have Biedrins and David Lee, trading Ellis or Curry would just be retarded, not simple. The bigs have been getting into the offensive rotation lately, and should do more so as the season progresses. Biedrins already has 24 points, 15 rebounds in the 3rd with 86% shooting.
Unless you could blackmail another franchise to make some retarded trade, it's not happening. And considering Warriors already have a solid chance for playoffs, any trade would only make the team worse.
First "missed shot" = obvious foul by Gasol which resulted in TWO makeup calls.
ReplyDeleteSecond "missed shot" = probably going in, but Vlad tipped it just in case
Also, JL could have had two baskets, but Monta refused to passed to him on a fast break and then D-Wright (?) had Lin streaking ahead but threw it away behind him.
BTW, Monta got swatted on the play I mentioned above.
ReplyDeleteLin just got blocked for real -- nice run down by Mayo.
ReplyDeleteDamn Lin was open for a fastbreak layup and Mayo came out of nowhere
ReplyDeleteThe minute Jeremy comes in, the team falls apart. Coincidence? I think not.
ReplyDeleteGet the starters back in there, Lin is struggling as bad as ever with his offense...
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ReplyDeleteOuch. Lin got blocked (for real) twice this game. But he did get two steals and a block himself. Needs to diversify his finishes...refs refuse to call contact at the rim this game.
ReplyDelete@ anon, 8:41pm
ReplyDeletehardly Lin's fault, if you're even watching the same game. radmo made some terrible turnovers.
both lin and monta need to be dunking those drives to the hoop... going for layups and getting blocked doesn't cut it.
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ReplyDeleteuh no. lin provided excellent defense and held it at a 6 point deficit for a while. can't do anything if your teammates are turning the ball over and missing wide open shots. lin needs to tear drop higher on the glass to avoid getting blocked.
Lin was fine running the point and okay (not great as usual) on defense. And you gotta tip your cap on the blocks (just like Harrington being swatted by Lin).
ReplyDeleteI'm not sure Lin should even have gone "fancy" on his finishes at this stage of his career. Usually you're gonna draw fouls if you go up strong and solid.
The entire Warriors bench along with Dorell Wright are just playing real sloppy today. Completely losing any momentum that the starters were building.
ReplyDeleteJeremy wasn't any exception, today just wasn't his day. Kind of unfortunate since he had a lot of opportunities. Great that he got minutes, bad that he wasn't playing well.
Would love to see this game go OT. Lin might get back in with Curry in foul trouble.
ReplyDeletewell biedrens doin it big!!
ReplyDeleteLin was fouled several times on his drives, yet they were not called. His teammates were not helping him out there too. They just stand around and watch. At least Lin will always provide solid D.
ReplyDeleteLin and Monta CANNOT play together -- Monta is too selfish. And Lin can't shoot from outside. Lin and Curry (or Reggie) work so much better.
ReplyDeletemikey tell me about! what the hell dick bavetta? this guy was probably refing when wat misaka played so don't tell me you've never seen one to miss a call that badly! not one but both announcers couldn't believe that no call.
ReplyDeleteBeing objective, today was an off night for Lin. He had many chances and he was outplayed, especially when he was on offense. I made a few observations:
ReplyDelete1. He seemed actually a step slow today. Even in defense, there were points where the ball was bouncing around and he could have controlled it, but just let it go by.
2. I think he is a little too methodical setting up the play. I am not seeking a playground fast offense, but whenever is is PG, the game slows way down.
3. He needs to drive from the left side of the basket. I have almost never seen him drive from the left. Even if he starts from the left, he winds up on the right side.
4. His defense is still good. His 5 sec. sub at the end of the game was a GREAT endorsement by Smart that he trusts Lin's defense.
5. Lin getting better does not equal Ellis getting traded. Let's be objective even as fans. Ellis is an enormous talent.
6. Hubie is right - this team will get a lot better once they get their size back. Today was a good day for W, a real confidence booster.
why does jlin sit by himself with coaches and not with teammates.
ReplyDeleteI got the same questions also....he always sit next to the coaches, I don't know if the coaches loves him and wanted to teach him or its b/c of problems with teamate~@"@
ReplyDeleteit's because hes a young rookie pg, the coachs are going to constantly be teaching him
ReplyDeleteYea thts wat I thought too but I think sometimes JL looks blankout or day dreaming whn sitting on the bench lol
ReplyDeleteIt was a good learning experience for JL. First of all, let's not forget he also had 2 steals and another block himself. And Gasol clearly fouled him for what should have been FTs.
ReplyDeleteBut JL learned that sometimes, when you're not getting calls or the other team is playing great D, you gotta be more creative on your finishes (that's one thing he should learn from Ellis). Reverse, floater, and yes, the dunk. Lin can't explode to the hoop like Ellis (few can), but he can dunk with a running start.
The coaches are obviously teaching Jeremy and want him to be caught up to the NBA game. His progress is beginning to show. Sun Yue also sat next to the coaches when he was with the Lakers.
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ReplyDeletewell said!
I really agree and made the same observations as SKL, especially points 1, 4, and 5.
ReplyDelete& look how far sun yue's gone....
ReplyDeleteLOL. Please don't compare JL to Sun Yue just because they're both Asian. he's more athletic, smaller, and far more skilled (esp. on defense). He's also been proving himself against elite American competition for years (last two years at Harvard, Summer League, and now in brief moments at the NBA level).
ReplyDeleteThe reason why the offense slows down so much is because on every possession, he's stopping to get instructions from coach Smart. He's not allowed to run plays by himself.
ReplyDeleteIf Monta is on the floor, his instructions are to defer to Monta and let him go one on one with the defense.
He has much more game than this, but right now is not allowed to use it.
Sun Yue wasn't able to adapt to the NBA. Not many 6'9 PGs in the NBA for that matter.
ReplyDeleteThe comparison between Jeremy Lin and Sun Yue wasn't made because they were Asian. They just were both two players I've seen sat next to coaches during the rookie season. Did I ever say that Jeremy Lin was going to be the next Sun Yue? LMAO Nope!
LOL @ 12:20 getting all butt hurt. I'm not the one trying to compare Jeremy Lin and Sun Yue's game..YOU ARE!
Fact: Both Sun Yue and Jeremy Lin sat next to the coaches when they were in the NBA. Deal with it.
I think Monta doesn't like Lin because before the NBA draft, Lin was interviewed and asked who his favorite Warrior was, and Lin said it was Steph. LOL!
ReplyDeleteThe minute Jeremy comes in, the team falls apart. Coincidence? I think not.
ReplyDelete@BlackieChan
ReplyDeleteSo this is how you come up with theories of why Coach Smart is a bad coach and provoke ideas that he hates Lin?... . I do like the effort of how you come up with these far fetched theories.
But the reality is, EVERY point guard gets instructions from their coach on possessions: Deron Williams from Jerry Sloan, Russell Westbrook from Scottie Brooks, Derrick Rose from Thibodeau, list goes on.
Since Jeremy is still a rookie, he should definitely listen to his coach. I have NO idea how you came up with this theory that, "his instructions are to defer to Monta and let him go one on one with the defense."
So now you even put instructions/words in Coach Smart's mouth, and then call him a bad coach?
.. .. . . o... . .k??
"I think Monta doesn't like Lin because before the NBA draft, Lin was interviewed and asked who his favorite Warrior was, and Lin said it was Steph. LOL!"
ReplyDeleteHAHA! good one DSB that made me lol
I don't think BlackieChan was saying Smart dislikes Lin or that he is a bad coach. He was just observing that Lin seems to have to get instructions everytime down the floor and that when Lin and Monta are on the floor, Lin usually gives it up to Monta and plays man-to-man defense. I wouldn't disagree with the observation. It kinda seems like that is the case without casting dispersions on the coach.
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