Monday, November 22, 2010

Game #14 vs. Denver - JLin 14 Real Minutes

14 Minutes
1-2 fg-fga
1 reb
2 assists
1 steal
1 block
+0 plus/minus

Warriors 89
Nuggets 106

Next Game:
Wed, Nov 24 @ Houston 5:30pm PST

This was a bad game for the short handed Warriors but really positive for JLin. He played 14 very solid non-garbage time minutes . What a huge step for him. He looks like he is on the verge of getting some serious rotation minutes. It's obvious that they need to give Monta and Steph more rest. Jeremy should be getting around 20 minutes soon. His defense, again, was more than solid. He is still trying to get a feel offensively. It'll take a few games working in with most of the 1st team. Also, you gotta give props to Coach Smart for rewarding JLin's play against the Lakers. You can see he is gaining more and more confidence in our boy.

Also, JLin's official site is up with some sweet pics: JLin7.com

Here is a nice pic from the Chronicle: And 1

59 comments:

  1. Highlights for the Laker game courtesy of aman2k:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcQ3DY4ezm0

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  2. Don't get too hasty now. Just cause Jeremy got double digit minutes yesterday and today doesn't mean that he will get 20 mins soon. Maybe if he shows a huge improvement then coach will allow him to play that many mins. As for now as a rookie, he is still probably going to get 0-15 mins a game. However, things do look pretty bright for Lin. He is actually in the rotation with Ellis and Curry, but this doesn't mean he will get that 20 mins. The coach is still going to play Ellis and Curry heavy mins. Remember preseason? He gave both these guys 35+ mins even if they were exhibition match. I am not doubting Jeremy Lin, I just believe this warrior Coach will continue to be the dumb ass he is since the start of his coaching career.

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  3. Thanks for the highlights. I like the fact that aman2k kept in the tv commentary on Lin after his plays.

    Yeah, I'm not so sure about 20 min/game just yet. But it was definitely encouraging to see him get meaningful minutes and for him to help keep the team in the game. I would have liked to see him drive more in this game like he did last night against the Lakers.

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  4. JL Stat of the Day:

    Lin has recorded at least one steal in EVERY SINGLE APPEARANCE. This includes two games in which he played just 3 minutes.

    If he improves his jumper enough to become a starter someday (e.g. in two years), I predict he'll lead the league in SPG. And it's not that big a leap. Furthermore, he's not gambling either. Lin always plays solid on the ball defense; he just knows when a pass is offline or the ballhandler isn't looking behind/beside him.

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  5. heres highlights of the game skip to around 2min to see jeremy lins bucket

    http://www.csnbayarea.com/pages/warriorsvideo?PID=hWM8THmdtC9i8szyoUfdjpU7g6hkXKr3

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  6. was at the game tonight, great to see him get meaningful minutes (and score that bucket)! his progression so early is a testament to his hard work, and his tenacity on defense and non-stop motor are what coaches love. keep doing the little things jlin and your offense will come around. i think his hesitation on o will go away when the coaches give him more of a green light to drive it when it's there. especially at home you can tell the the coaches are clearly protecting him.

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  7. Anonymous 12:26AM, thanks for the highlight link but I think you copied the wrong address. This one below worked for me though. Same thing, skip to 2 min.

    http://www.csnbayarea.com/pages/warriorsvideo?PID=_Jeyb7KbG6EldlhdAmBD5liOwnox5dja

    I still want to see the block on Harrington!

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  8. jeremy lin is already one of the leaders in steals per game. here are the stats for steals per 48 minutes played. he is #3.

    http://tinyurl.com/23hslw6

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  9. he's really legitimately #1 in SP48 since you can eliminate the #1 and #2 given that their numbers are based on a single game.

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  10. Can't tell for sure, but on TV it seems like the crowd isn't so "over the top" in greeting him when he enters the game. That is a good thing.

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  11. I didn't know there was an official JLin7.com website until it was posted here. However, after going there, it looks like they do not update the site often (it feels like it's still the first week, as the top news story is JLin's debut).

    I realize this is a much better site for the latest JLin news, stats, and information. However, there are some posters who are immature in complaining about playing time or saying the coach "hates" JLin. A rookie in ANY sport needs time to adjust to the pace of the game.

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  12. agreed with the above comment! the people that complained about JLIN's minutes are those that probably do not watch or play basketball. 1-15mins as a rookie is great minutes!! Avery Bradley from Boston, a rookie, barely get any minutes and they are paying him over 1 million a year. Coach smart does not HATE JLIN probably like him, but what he did bad was that he overplayed his starter. Also Warriors needs to learn how to pass the ball, without teamwork(assist) the team is not anything!! Monte Ellis can score but he does not share the ball, which make him a bad player.

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  13. does anyone know who the youtuber aman2k is? is he a friend of jeremy's?

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  14. warriors are going nowhere fast with monta... for the past thirty years the games dominant, championship winning players have been 6'6" and above... Kobe, Jordan, Magic, Bird ... these are the guys that carry teams. 6 3 guards that need to shoot 20-25 times a game do not. see...Alan Iverson. warriors need to dump monta for a serious catch and shoot guard and a legit center/or a legit small forward. simple as that. And, then let Jlin run the show!

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  15. "warriors are going nowhere fast with monta?"

    Uhhh... . .are you serious?

    He's the teams best player.
    And he's one of the league's leading scorers-and of all leading scorers, he has the highest FG% and 3P% THIS season. Most of all, he's the reason that the Warriors win games(Bucks and Utah this season).

    He may not be Kobe, Jordan, or Magic, but the fact that you're even attempting to compare Monta with those people is good enough. Warriors are trying to make playoffs, he may not be a hall-of-famer like those people you mentioned and bring Warriors a championship right NOW, but he's still only 25 and the rest of the team is still young. It's definitely a perfect start coming out of rebuilding phases/seasons.

    Trading for someone else doesn't make any sense, they're paying Beans 9mil/year at the center position and David Lee 14mil/year at power forward. That would definitely be a waste of talent and money and just straight up horrible management.
    Considering what shooting guards have been getting paid lately (Rudy Gay and Joe Johnson both being maxed out), Monta is giving the Warriors a very decent bang for the buck.
    Who/which contract would you seriously trade for?

    All because Monta isn't currently playing well with an undrafted rookie coming off the bench isn't a legitimate reason to trade him away.
    There has to be an unbiased reason to trade away Monta if it's ever going to happen.

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  16. i would trade him even if jlin weren't on the team. that's unbiased. i'd probably trade curry too. they'll win you 40-48 games shooting 50-60 shots a game the rest of their nba lives. you need forwards and centers to win nba championships. you wanna go to the playoffs and win a round... go with monta and curry. you want to win a championship you need a great small forward and at least a very good center. and you probably need a very good point guard -- of the three curry, monta, or lin, lin is the best point guard. monta and curry are not true point guards -- they are what i like to call scorer points. score first, point guard second. very few clubs have ever won an nba championship with a scorer point like monta. look at all the great teams. the point guards are pass first score second. both of these guys are score first mentality. monta is iverson. and who cares if he's young. iverson was young. grear players, hard worker, warrior, same as monta. but these guys don't win championships. they just don't. THEY DON'T GET THE GAME IN THE LARGER SENSE! It's not something you can teach either. Jlin has it. Monta does not.

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  17. @asiancaucasian

    Again,
    Who/which contract would you seriously trade for?
    Considering what shooting guards have been getting paid lately (Rudy Gay and Joe Johnson both being maxed out), Monta is giving the Warriors a very decent bang for the buck.

    "you wanna go to the playoffs and win a round... go with monta and curry."

    Exactly! do you see what you're saying here? Warriors. . .in the playoffs?
    No one's expecting the Warriors in the playoffs, and if they do, Coach Smart'll probably have a ballot for Coach of the Year. It's insanely difficult to make it in the playoffs in the West. And considering where the Warriors have been through the past few seasons, that's quite a feat.
    Again, don't just throw around the statement "trade away Monta and Steph".
    Who/which contract would you seriously trade for to get Warriors get into Championship contention?

    Btw, Steph Curry is still on his rookie contract, trading away a star player on a rookie contract is just flat out HORRIBLE management.

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  18. request for blog admin: could you also post the TO with the game stats? that would be helpful too, thanks!

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  19. listen, you guys can do the timing of the trades... the where and the when and with whom. i'm just saying, monta and curry go at some point and time. you can decide when. that's why we're an administrative TEAM!

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  20. Sounded like the home crowd has gotten over the cheer-like-Bieber-fans-every-time-Lin-touches-the-ball mode. This is probably because Lin has gotten more playing time, so the crowd has gotten it out of their system. And this is good, because there will be less pressure on Lin at home, and the coach will be more comfortable playing him at home.

    Looking back, I think the reason the crowd (including me) cheered so wildly every time is because he barely got any minutes. If he got more minutes, the crowd would calm down too. It's a chicken/egg thing. I'm not a Coach Smart hater, but I really think he should have given Lin way more mins in preseason. It would have helped the crowd get it out of their system.

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  21. Since there are so many people on here that accuse the entire Warriors franchise of being racist, any one point out the possibility of Derek Fisher being racist?
    As I understand that many of you are Laker fans and are extremely biased to deny it.
    But there's definitely a LOT more evidence here than a lot of the crap rumors that people have been making up about Coach Smart.

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  22. "monta and curry go at some point and time"

    So for NOW, what people should be talking about is playoffs.
    Wait another season or two for these young players to develop and see how far the success can unfold.
    This talk about Monta and Curry go at some point in time is not worth talking about, especially while they have a chance to make playoffs this year.
    Who knows? maybe in a year or two, Warriors might be the next Portland or Spurs? (Teams with no franchise player superstar MVP contender)

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  23. I can't believe someone just suggested to trade away Monta and Stephen for big guys because we already have Lin. *sigh*

    If Lin continues to improve, he will make a great asset and an excellent backup to these two. But he is NOT their REPLACEMENT.

    "monta and curry are not true point guards -- they are what i like to call scorer points. score first, point guard second"

    True, but Jeremy is not exactly a pure point guard himself. He's a combo guard just like monta and curry, he's just not as good a scorer. I don't know if you realize it, but at Harvard, Jeremy mainly played the TWO.

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  24. i do realize it... and in high school he was a point guard. his natural position. and the position he should have been playing in college. can't help what a coach can't see. jlins a point guard who runs a team... let him get back to that and we'll see great things. he will never score like curry or monta and he doesn't need to... it's called assists, blocks, steals, and some points... its called the jlin effect. and its what lots of coaches can't see or understand until they let him take the reins. with monta and curry out there it will probably not happen... it's why, in my opinion, hes been far more effective without those guys, with a defensive mind squad that d's it up, boards, and runs.

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  25. LOL, I wonder how many times Steve Nash came over from the weak side to swat a big man's shot ?

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  26. JLin had to play off guard at harvard because he had to make up for what his teammates lacked. I agree that JLin is more effective with the second team because he can actually set up plays without monta screaming at him to give him the ball. Hands down JLin plays best with DWright and he's the only one of the starters that actually passes the ball back to JLin and lets him be the point guard.

    In the postgame interview, Smart said that Jeremy did a good job of pushing the ball and gave a good tempo boost for the most part. So hopefully we'll be able to see JLin play more consistent minutes. I actually think JLin plays better under pressure i.e. in the last quarter when the warriors are losing. He plays a lot more aggressively on both offense and defense.

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  27. asiancaucasian you are retarded... you are a backseat driver... no one in their right mind would say that they (even as big of a fan as i am) would rather have jlin than monta or steph... thats just you being asian i presume and talking jlin up.. no doubt he is good but he needs time to develop his game.. his jumper is god awful.. until he develops his midrange jumper and finishes at the rim he will still play 10-15 minutes per game at best

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  28. I think I need to learn how to use a handle because someone is going to get me confused for other ppl. I wouldn't personally attack another poster lol.

    how do I do that?

    why does it ask for an url?

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  29. LoL! asiancauc is out of his mind. he wants to dump 2 of the better scoring guards in the league so JLin can get more playing time. absolutely mind boggling. "smart hates Lin", "trade Monta and curry" LoL!

    asiancuc, you forget that iverson single handedly took his team to the finals, but ran into a little fellow named shaq. having a tall, dominant post up SG is not a requirement to winning a championship, as Olajuwon's rockets, and Garnett's celtics can attest to. Sure, big men up front would give a team the best shot at doing so, unless your name is jordan.

    The pistons knocking out shaq and the quitter kobe (kobe also quit against the suns, and continues to choke in any critical playoff situation, including last year's game 7 final), demonstrates the fallacy of your dominant SG requirement. also notice the basic fact that kobe has never done jack without a dominant big man.

    the mavericks (with no dominant SG) almost knocked out mourning/shaq and wade, but wade is the definition of clutch.

    now, given the fact there are very very few dominant centers left in the game, the warriors will have to make due with what they have. your fantasy of trading 2 great scoring guards to give Lin more playing time is as absurd as your other ridiculous fantasies.

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  30. Lin didn’t do much to fill up the stat line, but his defense was excellent for almost his entire run on the court. The Nuggets were a flat 0 in the plus/minus column over his 14 minutes, in large part because he disrupted their offensive flow with nice on-the-ball defense. He was a non-entity on offense and went multiple possessions without even touching the ball, but he showed that he can contribute even without offensive production.

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  31. At this point, we know

    1. jeremy lin is getting better
    2. monte and curry both are good and not likely to be traded.

    What we need is

    be patient and wait for david Lee come back in a few days. No emotional comment please ..

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  32. asiancaucasion isn't saying Lin is better than Curry or Monta -- you guys don't read. He's saying that trading Curry/Monta to get a star center or forward and letting Lin run the point would be better OVERALL for the team.

    Get it?

    Even when Lee comes back, the Ws are nothing more than a 7th/8th playoff team. You guys need defense. A "start" player who can do more than score points.

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  33. I'm glad to see Lin playing more and shaking off those jitters, but giving Lin 20 minutes would be a horrible coaching decision by Smart at this point. That would be nearly half the game where Curry and Monta are not on the court at the same time-- and each is more effective when the scoring threat of the other is present.

    A regular 10-15 minutes would be nice for Lin, with his energy and ability to disrupt the offense-- and that's only if he can start scoring more regularly than he has been and that jumper starts falling.

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  34. i would agree with the statement about the need to trade monta / curry type players at some point. i would trade monta right now as his stock has really skyrocketed. no team should have an iverson type player UNLESS they are a championship contender and looking to ADD a scorer. the dubs have TWO iverson type players (three, if you count Reggie) that demand the ball at all times. that's TWO too many. honestly, to make it work, the rest of the team would have to be great defenders/rebounders and the dubs just don't have those players.

    i admit it was fun to watch the two iverson's unleashed and score tons of points between themselves. but that was against bad teams and at home. now that teams have figured out how to defend them, they won't be so effective anymore.

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  35. The teams have figured out how to defend them 'cause there hasn't been any reason to defend Biedrins and David Lee. Once David Lee gets into his scoring rhythm and Biedrins finds his way into the offensive rotation, Monta and Stephen will be dropping buckets once again in no time.

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  36. Don't worry everyone, asiancaucasian is probably just one of those Laker fans who don't know what they're talking about and try to legitimize their comments/evaluation by throwing around the word "championship".
    It's quite common in most Laker fans, don't pick on asiancaucasian all because he isn't any different.

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  37. @anon 5:19 pm,

    asiancauc claims to want a star center or forward, yet never mentions moving David Lee/Biedrins, who are both suspect defensively. of course, moving either wouldn't result in Lin getting more playing time ;) moving monta / curry (assuming any team is dumb enough to move an elite big man for either) is ludicrous to begin with, not to mention the depth issues in the warriors would face with only Lin at guard.

    and LoL at his bashing iverson, who was a one man show against the lakers in 01. iverson had average to mediocre players around him for years, yet he was the one who carried the 76ers and almost took two in LA. fail analysis is fail.

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  38. to someone comment at nov 23 2010 5:44

    I respect your comment that curry, monte and reggie need ball. Now tell me what is best solution to solve it or from NBA history how the coachs handle this kind of case ...

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  39. Using the logic that "Monta and Steph won't bring a championship", then more than half of the teams in the NBA should trade away their star players!

    But the great thing with the Warriors is that they aren't even paying Monta and Steph as if they're going to bring a championships. Neither of them are even close to being maxed out and they might even have space for a max contract if Steph Curry's willing to take a paycut and they want to sacrifice their entire bench.

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  40. Actually, I take that back, Steph Curry won't even have to take a paycut in order for Warriors to afford a max contract! If they wanted to afford a max contract AFTER Steph comes off his rookie contract, they just need the bench to take flexible paycuts! But that'll be in a while and Dubs could even afford a max contract right now.

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  41. Jeremy comes into the 1Q and 20 seconds in blocks Carmello's 18-foot jumper @1:02 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLiC6Q_67jA&feature=sub

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  42. you need a balanced attack or else teams will focus their defense on your "stars". lee isn't a prolific scorer, he is a double-double guys who's main focus is rebound and put-backs. although he does have some moves down low, it's not enough to demand a double-teaming. even with lee back in the line-up, teams will still focus on monta and curry since they know these guys look to shoot first and they can't really pass all that well.

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  43. For now, warriors stick with what there doing. Until they trade monta, the Monta and curry show is the best thing they'll have going. Bring jlin off the bench and run him with the wright brothers, reggie, and lee. Or some biedeins and carney. It's a limited minutes squad and they earn more time if they do well. Unless monta starts moving for and passing to jlin and or smart figures out how to coach up the monta jlin backcourt, that's gonna be a waste. Jlin curry combo could have a chance but would depend on curry defering a little more and getting off the ball when lin is in. Jlin fanning out to wing with monta and curry or Reggie in game is useless until jlin becomes more confident and proficient shooting. However, I still think warriors best attack with this group is doing exactly what they are doing. Ultimately though, if you really want to win you trade monta. Hope curry tightens his game. And yes, ntt, move biedrins and David lee... And bring in one or two heavy hitters and let Jlin run the show.

    Ntt... The more you mention iverson the more everybody loses respect for you. Iversons and montas are team killers. Remember that 88 olympics ... Iverson at point instead of steve kerr... No gold ntt. No gold!

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  44. Iverson wasn't the only problem on that Olympic team, it was basically that whole team that was a problem. Their style didn't fit with FIBA. Not every PG's style in the NBA translates to FIBA, just ask Derrick Rose.

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  45. asiancauc, you're the one bringing up iverson (comparing him to monta) as if he failed to ever accomplish anything. his playoffs and finals performance proves you're full of it. you also made a ludicrous claim iverson was surrounded by good players. utter failure on your part. also, the players on the olympic team didn't mix well, but way to lie and try to pin it on iverson in order to support your atrocious claim.

    your dominant SG requirement for winning championships is also full of it, as proven by my numerous examples.

    LoL! your entire post is "trade everyone so Lin can start at PG". pathetic.

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  46. Again, people please refrain from flaming Asiancaucasion, another one of those Laker fan who doesn't seem to know what he's talking about. But he's catching along though!

    asiancaucasian, Iverson was 13 during the 88 Olympics, Iverson wasn't drafted until 96.
    Steve Kerr never ever played in the Olympics in his entire life, he played in the World championships in 86.
    So neither of them played in the 88 Olympics.
    I have NO idea what event he's referring to, but it might be the '04 Olympics where Iverson played but Kerr already retired. That's the only other Olympics that USA didn't win Gold

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  47. get the eff outta here asiancaucasian... and to anonymous nov 23 5:19pm
    asiancaucasian said that jlin is the best pg on the warriors squad.. you gotta be mentally retarded to think that...or just be a flaming no brain jlin fan that cheers each time he touches the ball... people needa stop doing this for real.. jlin is great, imma big fan, but don't get your panties all knotted up in a bunch cuz hes not gettin 20+ minutes consistently... jlin is shooting at approx 30% from the field and until he improves that he wont even get 10-15 consistently...he gets 10-15 sporadic garbage minutes currently

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  48. brah brah from the 5th flowNovember 23, 2010 at 9:43 PM

    ntt and asiancaucasian, you both need to get a life and stop web banging! you two have too much time on your hand, do something productive with your free time instead of fighting.

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  49. I stand corrected on my iverson Olympic charge... It was another lousy Georgetown pg Charles smith who took steve Kerrs spot and cost us gold!

    Ps... Ain't never said jlin should get 20 minutes... Wouldn't work with the monta curry crew. Night nite, ntt.

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  50. night, asiancauc.

    your assignment tomorrow: list the players from each dream team roster... make sure you list them in the proper century.

    hope you don't have any more nightmares about Smart and Monta plotting against Lin! ;)


    @brah brah: do you mean being as productive as you in this same thread?

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  51. Great in-game action photo:

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4795/photos;_ylt=AkWA9AK98tQLFQBNiDa3wfqkvLYF?slug=bfa5f50750e95b5f1f0b0a1ba34858bd-getty-103893362sd014_golden_state

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  52. @ November 23, 2010 6:55 PM

    didn't really look like a block. just nice defense.

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  53. I meant "block" as in blocked his shot from going in because we all know Carmelo would've made that shot had Jeremy not defended him.

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  54. There's no such thing as "blocked his shot from going in." It's either a block or not a block. To me, it didn't look like a block. The ball's trajectory didn't seem altered at all. Just good defense.

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  55. He forced Carmelo into taking a tough shot that barely drew iron. And he blocked Al Harrington's shot. Nuff said.

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  56. Anonymous November 23, 2010 4:05 PM:

    Nice plagiarism, LOL! I'd like to see your college papers.

    http://blogs.mercurynews.com/warriors/2010/11/23/power-outage-warriors-89-nuggets-106/

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  57. http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4795/photos;_ylt=AkWA9AK98tQLFQBNiDa3wfqkvLYF?slug=bfa5f50750e95b5f1f0b0a1ba34858bd-getty-103893362sd014_golden_state#photoViewer=urn%3Anewsml%3Asports.yahoo%2Cap%3A20050301%3Anba%2Cphoto%2Cap-8895ee1c232f4404924528fe4ea48f96%3A1

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  58. chicken adobe doe bloodNovember 24, 2010 at 5:04 PM

    follow jlin on twitter at JLin7

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